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Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes

Saturday, March 19th, 2016 8:03AM CDT

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Every two weeks, Seibertron.com brings you a Top 5 list related to all things Transformers written by me, your fellow editor. These are my opinions (just like movie or game reviews hosted by sites are still just the opinion of one person) so what matters most is what you guys think of the topic or list, and I hope to see your own lists or comments on omissions and ranking. Let's have fun! All previous lists can be found here.


Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (Land Vehicles)

As we witnessed a few weeks ago, cybertronian alt modes can be a very lazy excuse for a subpar alt mode that looks like a mishmash of robot parts. To counter that, I wanted to showcase the amazing designs that Takara and Hasbro came up with when exploring the cybertronian aesthetic and how an great cybertronian alt mode could result in an equally impressive robot mode (hence why Cybertron Override isn't on the list). After all, these are the default looks of these characters on their home planet by definition, so it's interesting to see when designers go all out to give the best representation of said character. It turns out that there were so many good designs and toys that I had to split this up between two lists, one for the best cybertronian land vehicles (which is what we will start with) and one for the best air vehicles (which will come next).


10. Transformers Animated Cybertron Mode Optimus Prime

Burn said it best for this toy:
"I was never a fan of (Animated) aesthetic, but for the Cybertron forms it worked well and embraced one of the things I love about Transformers. The fact that they're an advanced alien life form. And this guy encompassed that look, sleek, and futuristic."

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)


9. Transformers War For Cybertron Cybertronian Megatron

I just love it when a cybertronian tank doesn’t mean a robot spreading his limbs out to form a hap hazard H tank and/or sticking his head out (like so many other Megatron or Shockwave toys). Instead, here, you have a very compact weapon of war with a giant cannon and dual purpose treads that make better thrusters for some light vertical jumps when brought under the vehicle (replicating what was seen in the video game). These treads then have a fun transformation of folding onto one another to make some bad ass forearms (and connect the hand pieces). It’s a great look and a breath of fresh air for all other tank Megatrons.

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

8.Transformers Cybertron Crumplezone (Land Bullet)

When it comes to cybertronian alt modes, this guy cannot be ignored. It is a perfect combination of both strength and speed with a sleek alt mode that is also massive and powerful looking, especially with the giant cannons that spring out. The Japanese name for this toy really encompasses that cool combination of power and speed by calling him Land Bullet. That contrast really comes full circle when you realize that the sleek and long vehicle becomes a brawler type robot with huge forearms and a wide chest. I love that rockbiter-like head sculpt (where the jaw moves as his head turns). This toy also has one of the best retools ever with Dark Crumplezone (called Arm Bullet in Japan) which has every single part redone for a totally new look.

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)


Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)


Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)


7. Transformers Animated Cybertron Mode Ratchet

It is so fun when designers have a field day with cybertronian modes. This mold is one of those fun occasions where we can see what these alien robots actually looked like back on their planet. As you might guess, it is unlike anything you would find on Earth. I really like how removed this quadrupedal vehicle is from Ratchet’s Earth mode while still giving you an idea of why he would pick a van as an alt mode on Earth. This has more of a tortoise design which indicates a greater importance on maneuverability than speed, which works very well for a rescue mission. In the end, I just love how this is a really heartfelt attempt at designing an otherworldly ground vehicle that isn’t simply the robot mode in some funny position. What’s great is that you still end up with a robot mode that is very similar to the one found on Earth mode Ratchet. This subtly adds an extra layer to the mechanics of Transformers where the scanning mechanism results in a greater change to the alt mode than the robot mode. That’s amazing!

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)



6. Transformers Cybertron Megatron (Master Megatron) Gallery

This guy is all about the alt mode. Sure, the robot mode is fine aside from balancing issues with his monstrous shins, but seriously, you get this guy for the alt mode. This gives us the answer to the ultimate question "What would the Batmobile look like on Cybertron?" It would look awesome, that's what! And like I said, Megatron is no slouch in robot mode either. For one, the intricate detailing makes it seem like he is wearing Unicron's armour. Look at the circuity and circular details on his shoulders, for instance, which are also found on Unicron. He also shares that spike motif along his arms. In short this is just a great beefy Transformer who's bigger size just means more detail, with a very satisfying and intuitive transformation and loads of articulation.

Also, just a heads up: the "Just us geeks" website named this as one of the top 5 Transformer toys of all time in 2012.

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)


5. Beast Machines Tankor

This is quite the underrated toy with loads of non intrusive gimmicks (like hidden saw blades) and the very best light piping ever. Firstly, they actually went out of their way to make the toy better and more fun than the intended cartoon model by giving it two separate and different looking heads when they could have been boring and just have the tank stand up with the same head (as was done later in the Generations line, sometimes cartoon accurate means more dull). In the show though, this head is (sadly) the same and thus it scans the environment in both modes which is shown as a red dot going from side to side on his visor. Well, this toy replicates that by having a nob which turns so that a slit in the light piping moves from side to side, making it look like he is scanning. This works for both the tank head and the robot head, and better yet, they are interconnected so that both gimmicks are activated at the same time. It’s also a solid and bulky toy with a fun transformation that is more complex and satisfying than the more show accurate toy.

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4. Transformers Animated Arcee

We often get sleeker versions of earth based cars (like Cybertron Hotshot) that don't capitalize on the potential of designing vehicles from other worlds. This one totally fits the bill though. Unlike so many other alt modes, it bravely crosses the line between being a futuristic design to a full blown cybertronian one. It is a great homage to G1 Arcee which is followed through in robot mode and I like the added massive spoilers in the back. That detail gives it enough variation from the traditional Arcee model. Too bad it has exposed hands in vehicle mode though. Props go for it having that signature Arcee backpack without going the easy route and making this a shellformer.

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)


3. Transformers Generations / Legends Arcee

Animated Arcee might be great but this one tops it. This cybertronian cruiser is very sleek and definitely otherworldly. I love how compact it is and perfectly aero dynamic yet not necessarily designed for speed. It’s just a summer loving convertible from a different world. It rolls super well too and there isn’t any extraneous robot kibble. However, that is due to it being a shellformer but the shell does fold in onto itself at the midsection recreating the G1 look very well. It is great to see a deluxe come with so many accessories and different places to store them in both robot mode and vehicle mode (the vehicle mode storage where Arcee’s robot hands hold a gun into place is really clever). While this is not a masterpiece, it looks exactly like the G1 cartoon model. Especially with the softer Takara deco which looks like it is made of delicious candy. For those who don’t know, this is the only toy from this line (Thrilling 30) to be designed partly by Takara instead of simply Hasbro. Since this is the very first toy of G1 Arcee, Takara felt it would be a disservice for it to be an update to her G1 self, which is the theme of the Generations line (and all the other “classics” lines.) So they stepped in and made her design reflect her G1 self as much as they could. That dedication and passion makes this toy extra special.

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)


2. Transformers Generations War For Cybertron Cybertronian Optimus Prime

I LOVE this toy. This is one of the last great stand alone deluxes we have gotten. It’s massive in size, as intricate/complex as any Transformer toy can get (regardless of size class) without being frustrating, has plenty of smart paint apps, looks really close to the game model, has great plastic with a really fun shine to it, and was sold at a deluxe price point. It also sports an awesome looking cybertronian alt mode. I find this design so smart. Optimus wouldn’t be a truck with a trailer on Cybertron but the designers found a way to still give him an alt mode that screams Optimus yet also scream Cybertron at the same time. I love how smooth the front half of this armoured vehicle is. It is very alien and original. What I am most impressed with is how the smooth surface is actually made up of a bunch of smaller segments which fasten to one another very well to give the illusion that his armour is one uninterrupted shell. It could have been so easy for Takara’s engineers to just make him a shellformer but they instead opted to find places along his limbs to integrate his alt mode’s smooth panels. I find that incredible.

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)


1. Transformers Animated Rodimus Minor

This is a perfect toy, especially for a deluxe scale. Unlike the G1 and classics toy, the designers really go out of their way to give this that extra cybertronian flare, which works since the character was on Cybertron in the show. So instead of the alt mode being a futuristic Countach, it has more of an alien look with a lot of curves and undulations replacing the sharp edges. I especially like the dashboard area which looks more like a dome atop a vehicle, thanks to the clear plastic found on every side. I really hear John Hammond saying “no expenses spared” when looking at this toy, especially from the side where I see the designers went out of their way to have details on separate pieces line up to make it seem like the exhaust pipes are running all across the back portion. That is of course in addition to the excellent paint apps, use of clear plastic, double projectile weapon, as well as ball jointed wrists and feet providing maximum articulation (a far cry from most deluxes since). The transformation is also quite ingenious, especially the bit where they store the front wheels into his chest piece to make him look just like his cartoon model (which was designed before the toy). In fact, this toy was actually used as the starting point for MP Rodimus, just to give you an idea at how highly this toy is regarded by designers.

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)

Transformers News: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Alt Modes (land vehicles)


Honourable Mentions: So many cybertronian Tanks!!!!!!!

This is a top 10 so there was enough space to mention everyone that had a simultaneously great cybertronian land vehicle mode and robot mode without resorting to any transformer doing yoga and calling that a mode. The ones that get lost in the crack are those who have great robot modes but subpar alt modes where being "cybertronian" is more of an excuse for an alt mode being the secondary focus and for some reason, it's usually tanks. The two I included are to me, the best cybertronian tanks, because they do something different and original, in their transformation and their look. The rest follow a similar formula. The legs spread out to become the treads, the arm(s) becomes the cannon(s) and the head floats around somewhere, always visible. While Revenge of the Fallen Megatron is a great example of this, there are way better toys to honour here that arent as lazily designed such as Titanium Fallen, Robots in Disguise Megatronus, Prime Shockwave and Animated Shockwave. That later toy is an engineering marvel since it has two identities where each distinct robot mode has a "distinct" alt mode. While the change from one robot mode to the next is amazing (as can be seen below), the alt modes had to remain simple. So not the greatest alt mode(s), but great robot mode(s) and a great toy to own.

Same with The Fallen. He does something pretty cool where that extra kibble in the back (with painted flames to represent the fire burning in him at all times) helps make an easy transformation where most of the robot limbs are reused but to fill in the tank with the treads adding alt mode specific detail in the outside. Both the sculpt detail and stellar deco work hand in hand giving you an impression of the Fallen burning like a furnace from within himself.

As for Prime Shockwave and Robots in Disguise Megatronus, the fact that these two tanks pretty much use the exact same parts for both modes means the tanks are super sleek while there is very little extraneous kibble in robot mode. However, it does mean that there is a lack of new detail in either mode and robot parts (especially the heads) can be seen in tank mode.

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Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773838)
Posted by Evil Eye on March 19th, 2016 @ 9:17am CDT
Superb list as always! Crumplezone (and his buddy Ransack) are actually on my want list- Crumplezone in particular is just brutal. I absolutely adore his monstrous rocket-trike mode, and the robot mode is like a colossal robotic troll.

A few honourable mentions of my own would be Energon Scorponok, DotM Shockwave and the aforementioned Cybertron Ransack.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773845)
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on March 19th, 2016 @ 9:59am CDT
How do H-Tanks get honorable mentions when you talk about how bad they are at the beginning? Blurr and Kup belong on here before them IMO.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773851)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 19th, 2016 @ 10:49am CDT
First off, who is that white redeco of animated cybertron ratchet?

Secondly, good list ;)^ you've made me want animated cybertron prime again! A lot of other entries on this list have been in my sights for a while and I could of had crumplezone a while back for a really good price (£8!) But there was more important sales to be had that day.

I will leave you with a hard question though, where would springer go on your list :-P
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773864)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on March 19th, 2016 @ 11:45am CDT
That's a damned good list! i... really can't disagree with any of them on there. Good show, William! :APPLAUSE:
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773869)
Posted by Cobotron on March 19th, 2016 @ 12:05pm CDT
I'm just happy anytime that Beast Machines Tankor shows up on a "Best" list. :APPLAUSE:
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773874)
Posted by william-james88 on March 19th, 2016 @ 12:18pm CDT
Nik Hero wrote:How do H-Tanks get honorable mentions when you talk about how bad they are at the beginning? Blurr and Kup belong on here before them IMO.


They arent bad, just boring and predictable. And thus not good enough for the top 10 but nice enough to warrant a mention.

ZeroWolf wrote:First off, who is that white redeco of animated cybertron ratchet?

Secondly, good list ;)^ you've made me want animated cybertron prime again! A lot of other entries on this list have been in my sights for a while and I could of had crumplezone a while back for a really good price (£8!) But there was more important sales to be had that day.

I will leave you with a hard question though, where would springer go on your list :-P


That white redeco (with a new head) is the Autotrooper set from Botcon. They are an homage to stormtroopers.

And I love that question, I make these lists hoping for stuff like this.

Ok so my take on Generations Springer is that his design is not cybertronian, or at least not enough. G1 Springer was, yes, but that's for a specific audience now and that toy hasnt aged well. Gen Springer, however, is more of a hybrid of earth designs. Especially the headlights and windows. It's probably considered cybertronian by some, but more by definition than design. There is very little in its design that screams otherwordliness and the alt modes dont have that blocky 80s sci fi charm of the G1 figure. Gen Springer is a great toy, he will appear on these lists soon, but not the best example of a far out cybertronian design.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773877)
Posted by Cobotron on March 19th, 2016 @ 12:28pm CDT
I was always a big fan of this ridiculous alt mode.

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Transformers Cybertron Menasor (Moledive) Gallery

But I guess he kind of falls into the H-tank category.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773896)
Posted by Overcracker on March 19th, 2016 @ 1:39pm CDT
Great list. I happen to have most of these, and I agree they are very nice and well designed.

I specially like Animated Rodimus.

WFC Prime is great in both modes, but his transformation is too finicky. On the flipside, Megatron really nails both modes, and has a satisfying transformation.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773899)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 19th, 2016 @ 2:04pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Nik Hero wrote:How do H-Tanks get honorable mentions when you talk about how bad they are at the beginning? Blurr and Kup belong on here before them IMO.


They arent bad, just boring and predictable. And thus not good enough for the top 10 but nice enough to warrant a mention.

ZeroWolf wrote:First off, who is that white redeco of animated cybertron ratchet?

Secondly, good list ;)^ you've made me want animated cybertron prime again! A lot of other entries on this list have been in my sights for a while and I could of had crumplezone a while back for a really good price (£8!) But there was more important sales to be had that day.

I will leave you with a hard question though, where would springer go on your list :-P


That white redeco (with a new head) is the Autotrooper set from Botcon. They are an homage to stormtroopers.

And I love that question, I make these lists hoping for stuff like this.

Ok so my take on Generations Springer is that his design is not cybertronian, or at least not enough. G1 Springer was, yes, but that's for a specific audience now and that toy hasnt aged well. Gen Springer, however, is more of a hybrid of earth designs. Especially the headlights and windows. It's probably considered cybertronian by some, but more by definition than design. There is very little in its design that screams otherwordliness and the alt modes dont have that blocky 80s sci fi charm of the G1 figure. Gen Springer is a great toy, he will appear on these lists soon, but not the best example of a far out cybertronian design.

Good answer :-) I would class him as a non earth vehicle but that's just my opinion, though part of my question was what category do you place him under? Land or Air?

Also would any of the forthcoming titan returns toys make a list like this?
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773903)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on March 19th, 2016 @ 2:33pm CDT
Solid list but i feel like G1 Blurr, G1 Kup & WFC Bumblebee should have at least been mentioned, even the WFC seekers deserve a mention
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773907)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on March 19th, 2016 @ 2:48pm CDT
It's a good list! I would have swapped the Arcees, personally. And then WFC Megatron with WFC Optimus. I probs wouldn't have put Rodimus Minor at No. 1 if only for one reason: (Unless there was a part of the transformation I missed) You can't tab his chest in securely anywhere in robot mode.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773915)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 19th, 2016 @ 3:23pm CDT
I must say, great list! Though, FoC Optimus was a good toy too. yes he was a bit small, but he was an awesome toy and one that I love. Also: how would you classify FoC Grimlock (He is labelled as a space T-Rex after all)? Other than those 2, all I gotta say is awesome list! :MAXIMAL:
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773927)
Posted by Ultra Markus on March 19th, 2016 @ 3:42pm CDT
i think sixshot, blur kup, chromedome to name a few should have been mentioned
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773928)
Posted by william-james88 on March 19th, 2016 @ 3:43pm CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:That's a damned good list! i... really can't disagree with any of them on there. Good show, William! :APPLAUSE:


Thanks man. You know, I just realized that you are the cause for all these lists. I always loved Trasformers, but I didnt collect much between Beast Wars (when I was young) until I got back into it a few years ago. And the way I got back into collecting was by wondering what were the best toys out there. There werent many lists online (any list of best Transformers concentrates more on the characters than the toys) so I ended up seeking advice on what was good from the thread you started called "Best transformers in terms of design" and thats where I got the foundation for my collection to the point of knowing enough to write these lists here. So you helped me get into this hobby and learn what I need to know in order to help show others all the beautiful toys this hobby has to offer.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote: Also: how would you classify FoC Grimlock (He is labelled as a space T-Rex after all)?


:-? Interesting. However, these lists are about cybertronian vehicles. IF he is classified as a space t-rex then he would end up in the same category as the Abominus components and the like I guess, and Cybertron Scourge.

Cobotron wrote:But I guess he kind of falls into the H-tank category.


The lazy H-tank category >:oP :-P

ZeroWolf wrote:Good answer :-) I would class him as a non earth vehicle but that's just my opinion, though part of my question was what category do you place him under? Land or Air?

Also would any of the forthcoming titan returns toys make a list like this?


#-o I didnt even get that joke until now :lol: Good thing those modes arent too cybertronian or I would have been screwed :lol: My answer would be that he would end up in the category which works best for him. So if ever one comes out where his land mode is superb and beats others out of the list, then so be it. And same for air mode. It's a meritocratic list :lol:

And if something from TR blows any of these out of the water, I will consider them and make an appropriate ammendment (it will always be my personal opinion though). But from what I see, they may be solid and as good but not better than any of these. We'll see but these 10 up here are really special. And I am overjoyed that all of you agree so far :)

Megatron Wolf wrote:Solid list but i feel like G1 Blurr, G1 Kup & WFC Bumblebee should have at least been mentioned, even the WFC seekers deserve a mention


Thanks. Thats why we have this discussion, for people to bring up what they feel was missed. If I mentionned everything possible, then this great community wouldnt have any input to add.
I got a question though, about Blurr, if Titans Return Blurr comes out and is an obectively better toy than G1 Blurr simply through it's modernized articulation, sleeker shape and extra playability with functioning cockpit, should it be on this list instead of the G1 version? Also, the seekers arent land vehicles so you'll have to wait for the next list where I cover that and see if they are mentionned there ;)

DecepticonFinishline wrote:It's a good list! I would have swapped the Arcees, personally. And then WFC Megatron with WFC Optimus. I probs wouldn't have put Rodimus Minor at No. 1 if only for one reason: (Unless there was a part of the transformation I missed) You can't tab his chest in securely anywhere in robot mode.


I'm glad you agree with the choices at least. I find it cool that the order would be different :) And while I cant confirm if there is a way to tab Rodimus' chest properly (I dont have it nearby), I dont recall ever having a problem with it to the point that I never realized it didnt tab.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773941)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 19th, 2016 @ 3:58pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote: Also: how would you classify FoC Grimlock (He is labelled as a space T-Rex after all)?


:-? Interesting. However, these lists are about cybertronian vehicles. IF he is classified as a space t-rex then he would end up in the same category as the Abominus components and the like I guess, and Cybertron Scourge.


What this tells me is that you need a 3rd part to the list: land, air, and beast :MAXIMAL:
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773948)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on March 19th, 2016 @ 4:12pm CDT
Cybertron Megaton? Yuck, that's one of the few figures I've bought that I wish I hadn't, I think it's awful in all sorts of ways.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773964)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 19th, 2016 @ 4:56pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote: Also: how would you classify FoC Grimlock (He is labelled as a space T-Rex after all)?


:-? Interesting. However, these lists are about cybertronian vehicles. IF he is classified as a space t-rex then he would end up in the same category as the Abominus components and the like I guess, and Cybertron Scourge.


What this tells me is that you need a 3rd part to the list: land, air, and beast :MAXIMAL:

That would be an interesting list, non realistic animals which should allow for fuzors, transmetals, beast machines and cybertron jungle planet denizens..and pretty much any beast released in the past few years barring rattrap, rhinox and waspinator
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773965)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 19th, 2016 @ 4:57pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote: Also: how would you classify FoC Grimlock (He is labelled as a space T-Rex after all)?


:-? Interesting. However, these lists are about cybertronian vehicles. IF he is classified as a space t-rex then he would end up in the same category as the Abominus components and the like I guess, and Cybertron Scourge.


What this tells me is that you need a 3rd part to the list: land, air, and beast :MAXIMAL:

That would be an interesting list, non realistic animals which should allow for fuzors, transmetals, beast machines and cybertron jungle planet denizens..and pretty much any beast released in the past few years barring rattrap, rhinox and waspinator

My thoughts exactly. Would make for some good beast wars in the comments section too :MAXIMAL:
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1773998)
Posted by kurthy on March 19th, 2016 @ 7:12pm CDT
6i started thinking about this list, then I realized that I don't really collect cybertronian land vehicles (I've got Arcee). Then I realized that cybertronian land vehicles pretty much means unicron trilogy, animated, or FOC/WFC toys only, and I wasn't collecting during that time. It seems like most of the toys in this category fit into three types: utter crap, lay-down-spread-your-arms, and the ones that made the list. So good job on the list!

:-? Hey, what about Armada Overload? J/k :lol: , the only one I could think of otherwise is FOC Soundwave/Soundblaster/Blaster.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774016)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 19th, 2016 @ 9:22pm CDT
I do love the FoC Soundwave mold. The only 2 gripes with that figure are the immobile head and the front wheels, but those aren't that bad :MAXIMAL:
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774022)
Posted by fenrir72 on March 19th, 2016 @ 9:51pm CDT
Fall of Cybertron Optimus has atrocious clearance issues. The face plate rubs to the surface. Please check this. Similar issues with MP Hotrodimus.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774025)
Posted by Delicon on March 19th, 2016 @ 10:19pm CDT
There are some good ones here but you focus way too much on new stuff, especially Animated. Kup and Blurr as other people have mentioned should be on here but to me, the biggest omission is g1 Shockwave. That's the most iconic Cybertronian alt mode of all-time.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774047)
Posted by william-james88 on March 20th, 2016 @ 12:17am CDT
Delicon wrote:There are some good ones here but you focus way too much on new stuff, especially Animated. Kup and Blurr as other people have mentioned should be on here but to me, the biggest omission is g1 Shockwave. That's the most iconic Cybertronian alt mode of all-time.


G1 shockwave is not a cybertronian land vehicle... Right?
Check my top 5 shockwaves list, it's the better home for that beautiful toy.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774064)
Posted by Burn on March 20th, 2016 @ 6:58am CDT
My biggest gripe with this list (aside from Stalker once again being left out ... I mean really, he's clearly a Cybertronian Tank) is that the likes of Hot Rod and Arcee are more futuristic (and thus plausibly Earth based) vehicles.

Same can be said for Animated Prime, 'cause you know ... totally not Cybertronian as it turns out.

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Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774068)
Posted by william-james88 on March 20th, 2016 @ 8:15am CDT
Burn wrote:My biggest gripe with this list (aside from Stalker once again being left out ... I mean really, he's clearly a Cybertronian Tank) is that the likes of Hot Rod and Arcee are more futuristic (and thus plausibly Earth based) vehicles.


That's a question I am always wondering, at what point is something futuristic or cybertronian? And with the transformers brand, a lot of the cybertronian designs do take hints from earth for some reason (well its because the artists and toy makers had to base it off something familiar for people to buy), and thats not just for the vehicles but also for how humanoid the robots look. Anyways, I just went with the actual material. Animated Arcee and Rodimus were not on Earth (and their designs were made before the toys) and Gen Arcee's alt mode is specified on the box:
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kurthy wrote:6i started thinking about this list, then I realized that I don't really collect cybertronian land vehicles (I've got Arcee). Then I realized that cybertronian land vehicles pretty much means unicron trilogy, animated, or FOC/WFC toys only, and I wasn't collecting during that time. It seems like most of the toys in this category fit into three types: utter crap, lay-down-spread-your-arms, and the ones that made the list. So good job on the list!

:-? Hey, what about Armada Overload? J/k :lol: , the only one I could think of otherwise is FOC Soundwave/Soundblaster/Blaster.


:lol: Thanks man. As for toylines that have these kinds of vehicles, there was also Beast Mahchines. And the generations line did give us another cybertronian design outside of the WFC/FOC lines and while it is great, I found it a bit too redundant when WFC Prime is already on the list (and better), but it's still worth a mention here:

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Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774090)
Posted by Noideaforaname on March 20th, 2016 @ 12:47pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:That's a question I am always wondering, at what point is something futuristic or cybertronian?

I think this illustrates it nicely:
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Cybertronian Ratchet's an entirely alien vehicle, one that takes very broad cues from the Earth mode but doesn't outright copy anything. Cybertronian Rodimus, on the other hand, is effectively identical to his (Classics) Earth mode.


Really, so many Cybertronian modes look either like something so near to an earth vehicle it might as well have been one, a mess of nothing, or a folded up robot. Too few look like an actual alien machine.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774186)
Posted by Burn on March 20th, 2016 @ 4:34pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Burn wrote:My biggest gripe with this list (aside from Stalker once again being left out ... I mean really, he's clearly a Cybertronian Tank) is that the likes of Hot Rod and Arcee are more futuristic (and thus plausibly Earth based) vehicles.


That's a question I am always wondering, at what point is something futuristic or cybertronian?

To me it's pretty simple.

Hot Rod and Arcee made their debut in the animated movie, it was common back then for them to adopt Earth based modes, so to me, they were representative of futuristic Earth based modes.

And given the Animated incarnations are based on the original G1 look, to me, they're futuristic Earth based. More so when you thrown in Cybertronian Ratchet who is so radically removed from anything Earth based.

But that's just my take on things, others will no doubt see things differently and that's fine.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774220)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on March 20th, 2016 @ 5:11pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:That's a damned good list! i... really can't disagree with any of them on there. Good show, William! :APPLAUSE:


Thanks man. You know, I just realized that you are the cause for all these lists. I always loved Trasformers, but I didnt collect much between Beast Wars (when I was young) until I got back into it a few years ago. And the way I got back into collecting was by wondering what were the best toys out there. There werent many lists online (any list of best Transformers concentrates more on the characters than the toys) so I ended up seeking advice on what was good from the thread you started called "Best transformers in terms of design" and thats where I got the foundation for my collection to the point of knowing enough to write these lists here. So you helped me get into this hobby and learn what I need to know in order to help show others all the beautiful toys this hobby has to offer.[/quote]

As humbled and as much as I'd like to take credit, I never started that thread. But thank you for the thought.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774352)
Posted by DarkEnergon on March 20th, 2016 @ 10:47pm CDT
Great list - a couple on there I wish I'd gotten ahold of when I got the chance, specifically rodimus minor and FOC optimus.

But here's my big gripe with cybertron modes: Why do they have seats, windshields, and cockpits? heck, Arcee's cybertronian mode has two comfy little human-sized seats??

That's why I love so many of the FOC/WFC designs - they really look like living vehicles instead of modes of disguise.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774353)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 20th, 2016 @ 10:53pm CDT
DarkEnergon wrote:Great list - a couple on there I wish I'd gotten ahold of when I got the chance, specifically rodimus minor and FOC optimus.

But here's my big gripe with cybertron modes: Why do they have seats, windshields, and cockpits? heck, Arcee's cybertronian mode has two comfy little human-sized seats??

That's why I love so many of the FOC/WFC designs - they really look like living vehicles instead of modes of disguise.


Man, I loved the wfc/foc designs. So ingenius, especially the dual-purpose hover wheels, so amazing :x
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774355)
Posted by Burn on March 20th, 2016 @ 11:21pm CDT
DarkEnergon wrote:Arcee's cybertronian mode has two comfy little human-sized seats??

Because she's Futuristic Earth based, NOT Cybertronian based.

Thanks for helping me strengthen my case against the News Crew. :-P
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774356)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 20th, 2016 @ 11:27pm CDT
Burn wrote:
DarkEnergon wrote:Arcee's cybertronian mode has two comfy little human-sized seats??

Because she's Futuristic Earth based, NOT Cybertronian based.

Thanks for helping me strengthen my case against the News Crew. :-P

Or maybe she was ready to become Daniel's headmaster partner ;) :MAXIMAL:
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774357)
Posted by Burn on March 20th, 2016 @ 11:46pm CDT
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Burn wrote:
DarkEnergon wrote:Arcee's cybertronian mode has two comfy little human-sized seats??

Because she's Futuristic Earth based, NOT Cybertronian based.

Thanks for helping me strengthen my case against the News Crew. :-P

Or maybe she was ready to become Daniel's headmaster partner ;) :MAXIMAL:


Your argument is flawed by the time line. >:oP
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774469)
Posted by Amelie on March 21st, 2016 @ 11:50am CDT
Here's my top-5.

#5 - G2 Stalker\MachineWars Soundwave\Universe Soundwave (and no, I'm not kissing Burn's ass)
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Angular, menacing with just enough "recognizable" elements to let you know what it is.

#4 - G1 Blurr
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Unlike Arcee, Kup and Hotrod - Blurr looks like some alien vector that is built to whizz along the highway.

#3 - Fall Of Cybertron Brawl
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Its hard not to fill this whole list up with tanks, especially when I'm trying to keep to only one toy per series (ok, ok - I cheated with Blurr and Stalker). I prefer this to War for Cybertron Megatron because its more shapely - Megatron, I feel - looks a bit like a table.

#2 -
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Its a bit like a mangled Tankor (who didn't make my list) - there is just enough of the shape to make it a tank, like as if an abstract painter had attacked the Transformers universe. And no - I still don't like the movieverse, thank you. :P


#1 - Armada Demolishor
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Begging for a Titan Wars release

Aside from (my opinion here) being one of the best Armada figures - the tank mode is really perfect. The robot mode is snugly tucked away and the vehicle mode which is suitably recognizable and very alien from earth tanks. Plus - he can use his Minicon partner as the pilot. Awesome.
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774588)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 21st, 2016 @ 3:08pm CDT
And now I wish I hadn't given up my demolisher...He was am awesome deluxe and a lot more fun than cyclonus and technically a triple changer with the gun emplacement mode you could do by fiddling with his legs. Darn you Amelie, I'm going to have look for him again!
Re: Top 10 Best Transformers Toys with Cybertronian Land Vehicle Alt Modes (1774621)
Posted by Amelie on March 21st, 2016 @ 4:40pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:And now I wish I hadn't given up my demolisher...He was am awesome deluxe and a lot more fun than cyclonus and technically a triple changer with the gun emplacement mode you could do by fiddling with his legs. Darn you Amelie, I'm going to have look for him again!


He really is a thing of beauty, isn't he? :-D

I'd really love for a Titan Wars version - so the headmaster could pilot the tank mode.

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