Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys
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Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys
This list is about the transformers who's alt modes you can't make heads or tails of, and quite literally for one of them. While these are not definitely terrible toys (ok, a few of these entries are), their alt modes just don’t inspire anything cohesive whatsoever. They just seem like an afterthought, as if a robot mode was given and then torn apart and glued together in a mishmashed way to give a cybertronian “something”. While designs of Cybertronian vehicles can yield amazing results, these are the flip side.
5. Transformers Beast Machines Silverbolt
What kind of bird is this supposed to be? It's much less a "condor" than it is Silverbolt doing a handstand. This is one of the laziest alt modes I have ever seen.
4. Transformers Prime: Robots In Disguise Megatron
Told you guys you'd see him soon! I get that the creators didn't want to give Prime Megatron am earth based mode due to his disgust for the planet (still not a tactically sound plan). But you could at least give us something that looks like a space ship. I really dislike how his alt mode looks like what would happen if I left him in my huge jean pockets and then washed them and dried them. While he has a great robot mode that homages many of his predecessors in the Transformers Legacy, his “cybertronian jet with a face sticking out” looks more of an afterthought as to what can be made with the robot mode. And yet he still ends up with back kibble in robot mode, why ?! How?! (the cyberverse version didn't have any). But at least it means that “some” parts are for the alt mode.
3. Transformers Revenge of the Fallen The Fallen and Transformers (2007) Megatron
Both of these are lazy half assed “cybertronian” flying vehicles from the live action movies. They are not as terrible as another cybertronian vehicle below, but that is only because I can kinda tell which direction they are supposed to be facing. They still both look like the robot mode doing some freaky yoga poses.
2. Transformers Animated Megatron
Easily the worst animated figure and while it is not completely because of the alt mode, the fact that you can't tell if its facing front or back and that it isn't even accurate to the show doesn't help at all. If you want more info on this terrible toy, I welcome you to visit the Top 10 Worst Transformers Toys of All Time list.
1. Transformers Armada Overload (Ultra Magnus)
When someone first told me what he turned into, he said it was a pile of random junk. I thought he was joking. He wasn’t. What is this? WHAT IS THIS?????????????? I was eventually told it was a trailer. However, I am not blind, I can see very well that this is not anything close to a trailer. It is just the robot limbs rearranged to take less space, and that is all it is.
Honourable mentions: I wasn't sure if he would count or not but Arms Micron Gaia Unicron is definitely worth mentioning here.
People were wondering what this thing was, especially when looking at it at this angle:
And yeah, it totally fits the bill of being a mishmash of parts trying to get away with a semblance of a "cybertronian" alt mode. But there is more effort put into it than the other yoga transformers, like those movie ones mentioned earlier. As you will notice above, there is a face carved into it. In the Prime show, Unicron was shown as the foundation for Planet Earth and he would like to pop in as part of the earth's rock to say hello, like this:
So this alt mode, while very odd, does have something to do with the show since it is an interpretation of Unicron's face found in the elements of earth, hence the name Gaia Unicron.
But it not coming across as that does indeed make it a failure.
Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys
This list is about the transformers who's alt modes you can't make heads or tails of, and quite literally for one of them. While these are not definitely terrible toys (ok, a few of these entries are), their alt modes just don’t inspire anything cohesive whatsoever. They just seem like an afterthought, as if a robot mode was given and then torn apart and glued together in a mishmashed way to give a cybertronian “something”. While designs of Cybertronian vehicles can yield amazing results, these are the flip side.
5. Transformers Beast Machines Silverbolt
What kind of bird is this supposed to be? It's much less a "condor" than it is Silverbolt doing a handstand. This is one of the laziest alt modes I have ever seen.
4. Transformers Prime: Robots In Disguise Megatron
Told you guys you'd see him soon! I get that the creators didn't want to give Prime Megatron am earth based mode due to his disgust for the planet (still not a tactically sound plan). But you could at least give us something that looks like a space ship. I really dislike how his alt mode looks like what would happen if I left him in my huge jean pockets and then washed them and dried them. While he has a great robot mode that homages many of his predecessors in the Transformers Legacy, his “cybertronian jet with a face sticking out” looks more of an afterthought as to what can be made with the robot mode. And yet he still ends up with back kibble in robot mode, why ?! How?! (the cyberverse version didn't have any). But at least it means that “some” parts are for the alt mode.
3. Transformers Revenge of the Fallen The Fallen and Transformers (2007) Megatron
Both of these are lazy half assed “cybertronian” flying vehicles from the live action movies. They are not as terrible as another cybertronian vehicle below, but that is only because I can kinda tell which direction they are supposed to be facing. They still both look like the robot mode doing some freaky yoga poses.
2. Transformers Animated Megatron
Easily the worst animated figure and while it is not completely because of the alt mode, the fact that you can't tell if its facing front or back and that it isn't even accurate to the show doesn't help at all. If you want more info on this terrible toy, I welcome you to visit the Top 10 Worst Transformers Toys of All Time list.
1. Transformers Armada Overload (Ultra Magnus)
When someone first told me what he turned into, he said it was a pile of random junk. I thought he was joking. He wasn’t. What is this? WHAT IS THIS?????????????? I was eventually told it was a trailer. However, I am not blind, I can see very well that this is not anything close to a trailer. It is just the robot limbs rearranged to take less space, and that is all it is.
Honourable mentions: I wasn't sure if he would count or not but Arms Micron Gaia Unicron is definitely worth mentioning here.
People were wondering what this thing was, especially when looking at it at this angle:
And yeah, it totally fits the bill of being a mishmash of parts trying to get away with a semblance of a "cybertronian" alt mode. But there is more effort put into it than the other yoga transformers, like those movie ones mentioned earlier. As you will notice above, there is a face carved into it. In the Prime show, Unicron was shown as the foundation for Planet Earth and he would like to pop in as part of the earth's rock to say hello, like this:
So this alt mode, while very odd, does have something to do with the show since it is an interpretation of Unicron's face found in the elements of earth, hence the name Gaia Unicron.
But it not coming across as that does indeed make it a failure.
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Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771500)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2016 @ 12:25pm CST
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2016 @ 12:25pm CST
I don't agree with number 3 at all since one can clearly tell what they are their alien/cybertronian ships/jets anyone can guess that especially since the sci-fi genre has always had wacky spaceships.
edit: actually i thought this list was called Top 5 Most "Indistinguishable" Transformers.
Yet aside from maybe Animated Megatron and Silverbolt you can clearly tell what the bad altmodes are trying to be.
Overload is clearly a trailer a pretty bad one but you can still tell what it is also Prime and Megatron are clearly space ships.
edit: actually i thought this list was called Top 5 Most "Indistinguishable" Transformers.
Yet aside from maybe Animated Megatron and Silverbolt you can clearly tell what the bad altmodes are trying to be.
Overload is clearly a trailer a pretty bad one but you can still tell what it is also Prime and Megatron are clearly space ships.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771503)
Posted by Randomhero on March 5th, 2016 @ 12:45pm CST
Posted by Randomhero on March 5th, 2016 @ 12:45pm CST
When I first saw the title on the main page, even before clicking I said to myself, "I wonder if Animated Cybertronian Megatron will hit the list again..."
Good Job Will.
Good Job Will.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771512)
Posted by Logan. on March 5th, 2016 @ 1:43pm CST
Posted by Logan. on March 5th, 2016 @ 1:43pm CST
Great list as usual William James, my sincere congratulations. 
In my humble opinion, the number 1 is this...
In my humble opinion, the number 1 is this...
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771513)
Posted by VioMeTriX on March 5th, 2016 @ 1:53pm CST
Posted by VioMeTriX on March 5th, 2016 @ 1:53pm CST
very informative....
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771518)
Posted by Rainmaker on March 5th, 2016 @ 2:13pm CST
Posted by Rainmaker on March 5th, 2016 @ 2:13pm CST
I gotta disagree with this list, I don't like it how you made it 75% Megatron. I only agree with 1 and 5. We don't know how Cybertron exactly designs their ships and that alt mode may be an indestructible war machine to Megatron.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771519)
Posted by Lucky Logician on March 5th, 2016 @ 2:15pm CST
Posted by Lucky Logician on March 5th, 2016 @ 2:15pm CST
What about Gunrunner? He turns into absolutely nothing.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771522)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2016 @ 2:16pm CST
Now this is actually Indistinguishable and should be on the list instead of Megatron and the Fallen at 3.
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2016 @ 2:16pm CST
Logan79 wrote:Great list as usual William James, my sincere congratulations.
In my humble opinion, the number 1 is this...
[ROTF Ravage pics]
Now this is actually Indistinguishable and should be on the list instead of Megatron and the Fallen at 3.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771525)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2016 @ 2:17pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2016 @ 2:17pm CST
I think you're being a but harsh on overload as he's a trailer to carry jetfire in shuttle mode, and he connects to the back of armada primes trailer. His design is bad though (not as bad you're making it out) but that's because someone decided to make the truck in front a minicon which completely messed up the perspectives.
You're spot on with the other entries though. Especially voyager animated megs, the deluxe and leader moulds blow him away.
Something I've always noticed, but megs seems to be a victim of obvious head in alt mode syndrome. Especially the movie alts.
You're spot on with the other entries though. Especially voyager animated megs, the deluxe and leader moulds blow him away.
Something I've always noticed, but megs seems to be a victim of obvious head in alt mode syndrome. Especially the movie alts.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771530)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2016 @ 2:29pm CST
It's on purpose though at least for the movie version since his Cybertronian altmodes in the movies have always had the visible head.
Arguably this could be so he could see better or something.
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2016 @ 2:29pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:
Something I've always noticed, but megs seems to be a victim of obvious head in alt mode syndrome. Especially the movie alts.
It's on purpose though at least for the movie version since his Cybertronian altmodes in the movies have always had the visible head.
Arguably this could be so he could see better or something.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771543)
Posted by Evil Eye on March 5th, 2016 @ 2:55pm CST
Posted by Evil Eye on March 5th, 2016 @ 2:55pm CST
Good list as per usual! Though I have to disagree with Overload as number 1. It's pretty indistinguishable for sure, but it's a lot more visually pleasing and aesthetically comprehensible than, say, The Fallen. It's a big ol' solid block of chunky techno-greeble, as opposed to a spindly robotic xenomorph painfully contorted into a spiky wedge.
Overload seriously needs an updated toy. The Armada figure looks great, but it's a total brick.
Overload seriously needs an updated toy. The Armada figure looks great, but it's a total brick.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771555)
Posted by Ultra Markus on March 5th, 2016 @ 3:05pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on March 5th, 2016 @ 3:05pm CST
there should be a list of transformers toys that are on the most top 5 lists like beast machines silverbolt 
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771560)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 5th, 2016 @ 3:17pm CST
To be fair, its a 'protoform' for space travel, not so much an alt mode, as something to keep us from rioting 'cuz otherwise he wouldn't transform...
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 5th, 2016 @ 3:17pm CST
Logan79 wrote:Great list as usual William James, my sincere congratulations.
In my humble opinion, the number 1 is this...
To be fair, its a 'protoform' for space travel, not so much an alt mode, as something to keep us from rioting 'cuz otherwise he wouldn't transform...
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771564)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 5th, 2016 @ 3:20pm CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 5th, 2016 @ 3:20pm CST
Say what you will, but movie 1 megs' is my favorite ship design - ever, it's f%$king amazing 
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771569)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 5th, 2016 @ 3:52pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 5th, 2016 @ 3:52pm CST
Honestly, I think Prime's Megatron is not that bad. It's pretty cool actually, especially the deluxe 1st Ed version:
Also, Movie ROTF Megatron and The Fallen still look like cohesive spaceships to me. I never had The Fallen but I have that Megatron and he's not fun to transform just because you have to rotate parts juuuuuust right and it's a pain.
Agree 100% with Animated voyager Megs and Armada Overload. Both look like a pile of mess with no front nor back. Also, a missed opportunity by forgetting about ROTF deluxe Ravage. Awesome robot, but pointless altmode.
BTW, my personal "honnorable mention":
Gobots ROCK LORDS!
Also, Movie ROTF Megatron and The Fallen still look like cohesive spaceships to me. I never had The Fallen but I have that Megatron and he's not fun to transform just because you have to rotate parts juuuuuust right and it's a pain.
Agree 100% with Animated voyager Megs and Armada Overload. Both look like a pile of mess with no front nor back. Also, a missed opportunity by forgetting about ROTF deluxe Ravage. Awesome robot, but pointless altmode.
BTW, my personal "honnorable mention":
Gobots ROCK LORDS!
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771570)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 5th, 2016 @ 3:52pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 5th, 2016 @ 3:52pm CST
Gotta say, this is an interesting list and one with lots of potential for conversation and disagreement, and I agree with Ravage from RotF. Yes, he is a meteor, but it is just so funky and really is just his limbs moved around some with no real alt mode parts 
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771591)
Posted by Zeedust on March 5th, 2016 @ 4:51pm CST
Posted by Zeedust on March 5th, 2016 @ 4:51pm CST
Quick question: Does stuff like this count?:
...Probably a dumb question. If it did, this list would be at least half Beast Wars Neo, wouldn't it?
Those aren't indistinguishable. They're obviously rocks. Now if there were a list for USELESS alt modes, you'd be spot on.
...Probably a dumb question. If it did, this list would be at least half Beast Wars Neo, wouldn't it?
-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, my personal "honnorable mention":
Gobots ROCK LORDS!
Those aren't indistinguishable. They're obviously rocks. Now if there were a list for USELESS alt modes, you'd be spot on.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771592)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 5th, 2016 @ 4:53pm CST
Is that an official mode, or a fan mode? Either way, this is BAD-ASS!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 5th, 2016 @ 4:53pm CST
Nemesis Primal wrote:Quick question: Does stuff like this count?:
...Probably a dumb question. If it did, this list would be at least half Beast Wars Neo, wouldn't it?
Is that an official mode, or a fan mode? Either way, this is BAD-ASS!
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771600)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2016 @ 6:04pm CST
Official it's supposed to represent ROTF Mixmaster's third semi triplechanger mode from the movie.
Also it would not count as indistinguishable due to since it's just a turret mode and not a real vehicle and it looks like it should.
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2016 @ 6:04pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Is that an official mode, or a fan mode? Either way, this is BAD-ASS!
Official it's supposed to represent ROTF Mixmaster's third semi triplechanger mode from the movie.
Also it would not count as indistinguishable due to since it's just a turret mode and not a real vehicle and it looks like it should.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771610)
Posted by Gunmetal on March 5th, 2016 @ 7:36pm CST
Posted by Gunmetal on March 5th, 2016 @ 7:36pm CST
Overload was a transporter/launcher for Jetfire. (Although I guess you need Jetfire for that to be obvious.)
EDIT: This dude's got pictures!
http://www.darklorddungeon.com.ph/2011/ ... f.html?m=1
EDIT: This dude's got pictures!
http://www.darklorddungeon.com.ph/2011/ ... f.html?m=1
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771623)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2016 @ 9:54pm CST
Thanks for your additions guys, I am always so happy when the comments become an extension for the list.
Two cool examples that I will talk about briefly.
Gunrunner: That's on hell of a deep cut.
And yeah, the transformed robot doesn't look like anything:
But thats not his alt mode. Like Fire Convoy, just transforming the robot doesnt give you the finished and official alt mode, you have to partsform with his main accessory, his backpack and he becomes a jet:
So his main alt mode is a jet and having him alone is kinda like having him in mid transformation. Its wonky and worth of a mention (SO glad you brought him up), but he does end up having a decent alt mode, it just sucks how its achieved. Sounds like a toy for a partsforming list though
Now for Ravage, umm, he didnt really cross my mind because unlike some on this list I view him more as an action master that happens to have some kind of alt mode. Its not fair, I know, but its like first movie scorponok and the action master elites. Its almost as if they werent designed to transform so him having an alt mode is more of a plus. And what's even cooler is that, like Gaia Unicron, his "alt mode" is actually supposed to be something we see in the film. He's that missile/pod shot from Soundwave. So the toy has him in this compact aerodynamic mode and then he can deploy himself out. Looking at it that way, its a failure at an interesting reference, just like Gaia Unicron, and I am glad he was brought up on these comments.
Thanks guys!
Now onto other stuff:
We went over this last time, in 90% of the cases, the head being shown is on purpose. Like Energon Ironhide, thats on purpose. But it's still not pleasant for some fans. Optimus Prime as a truck can see well enough, so I dont know why some versions of Megs need to stick their heads out. I personally will always find it lazy, no matter the designers explanation. It also totally takes away from the idea of robots in disguise and the idea of transforming. To me, a robot head should not be obviously seen in robot mode, but thats just me.
Prime?
Thanks! I couldnt resist. Not being biased though, it just makes sense for him to be here, I didnt have to go off again though, last time was enough
It would technically be more biased to restrict this list to only one of each character. I dont care who the character is or how many times he comes up, if its a messed up looking alt mode, its on the list. Whats interesting about Megatron is that he is usually one of the best toys in a line... or the worst.
He has come up quite a bit. But he wont for the foreseable future, because I am giving these negative themed lists a break The next few are all about what's BEST, so he wont be around.
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2016 @ 9:54pm CST
Lucky Logician wrote:What about Gunrunner? He turns into absolutely nothing.
Logan79 wrote:Great list as usual William James, my sincere congratulations.
In my humble opinion, the number 1 is this...
Thanks for your additions guys, I am always so happy when the comments become an extension for the list.
Two cool examples that I will talk about briefly.
Gunrunner: That's on hell of a deep cut.
And yeah, the transformed robot doesn't look like anything:
But thats not his alt mode. Like Fire Convoy, just transforming the robot doesnt give you the finished and official alt mode, you have to partsform with his main accessory, his backpack and he becomes a jet:
So his main alt mode is a jet and having him alone is kinda like having him in mid transformation. Its wonky and worth of a mention (SO glad you brought him up), but he does end up having a decent alt mode, it just sucks how its achieved. Sounds like a toy for a partsforming list though
Now for Ravage, umm, he didnt really cross my mind because unlike some on this list I view him more as an action master that happens to have some kind of alt mode. Its not fair, I know, but its like first movie scorponok and the action master elites. Its almost as if they werent designed to transform so him having an alt mode is more of a plus. And what's even cooler is that, like Gaia Unicron, his "alt mode" is actually supposed to be something we see in the film. He's that missile/pod shot from Soundwave. So the toy has him in this compact aerodynamic mode and then he can deploy himself out. Looking at it that way, its a failure at an interesting reference, just like Gaia Unicron, and I am glad he was brought up on these comments.
Thanks guys!
Now onto other stuff:
Deadput wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Something I've always noticed, but megs seems to be a victim of obvious head in alt mode syndrome. Especially the movie alts.
It's on purpose though at least for the movie version since his Cybertronian altmodes in the movies have always had the visible head.
Arguably this could be so he could see better or something.
We went over this last time, in 90% of the cases, the head being shown is on purpose. Like Energon Ironhide, thats on purpose. But it's still not pleasant for some fans. Optimus Prime as a truck can see well enough, so I dont know why some versions of Megs need to stick their heads out. I personally will always find it lazy, no matter the designers explanation. It also totally takes away from the idea of robots in disguise and the idea of transforming. To me, a robot head should not be obviously seen in robot mode, but thats just me.
Deadput wrote: Prime and Megatron are clearly space ships.
Prime?
Randomhero wrote:When I first saw the title on the main page, even before clicking I said to myself, "I wonder if Animated Cybertronian Megatron will hit the list again..."
Good Job Will.
Thanks! I couldnt resist. Not being biased though, it just makes sense for him to be here, I didnt have to go off again though, last time was enough Rainmaker wrote:I gotta disagree with this list, I don't like it how you made it 75% Megatron.
It would technically be more biased to restrict this list to only one of each character. I dont care who the character is or how many times he comes up, if its a messed up looking alt mode, its on the list. Whats interesting about Megatron is that he is usually one of the best toys in a line... or the worst.
Ultra Markus wrote:there should be a list of transformers toys that are on the most top 5 lists like beast machines silverbolt
He has come up quite a bit. But he wont for the foreseable future, because I am giving these negative themed lists a break The next few are all about what's BEST, so he wont be around.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771624)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 5th, 2016 @ 10:00pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 5th, 2016 @ 10:00pm CST
I actually always thought the design for Gaia Unicron was gizenius. Not only does it have the face "carved" into the "rock", the whole alt-mode is just Unicron's whole head. The helmet, the horns, the face, the whole shebang. I mean really, how egotistical do you have to be to transform into a larger version of your own head, and how do I get a membership to that club?
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771625)
Posted by kurthy on March 5th, 2016 @ 10:03pm CST
Useless? Oh, no. Do you know how many windows I broke because I had a transformer that I could throw around? It had a great job of increasing window/TV repair in the U.S. in the '80s.
Posted by kurthy on March 5th, 2016 @ 10:03pm CST
Nemesis Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, my personal "honnorable mention":
Gobots ROCK LORDS!
Those aren't indistinguishable. They're obviously rocks. Now if there were a list for USELESS alt modes, you'd be spot on.
Useless? Oh, no. Do you know how many windows I broke because I had a transformer that I could throw around? It had a great job of increasing window/TV repair in the U.S. in the '80s.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771627)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2016 @ 10:25pm CST
I can think of a few other bots who probably have membership:
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2016 @ 10:25pm CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote: I mean really, how egotistical do you have to be to transform into a larger version of your own head, and how do I get a membership to that club?
I can think of a few other bots who probably have membership:
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771629)
Posted by King Kuuga on March 5th, 2016 @ 10:40pm CST
Posted by King Kuuga on March 5th, 2016 @ 10:40pm CST
Overload may not be much of a looker, but he was a fun brick when I was 12 or 13. The super convoy you can get by putting Jetfire on him and attaching him to Prime's trailer was AWESOME as a kid.
This doesn't negate his place on this list, I suppose, but I don't consider him in the ranks of post-movie Megatrons.
This doesn't negate his place on this list, I suppose, but I don't consider him in the ranks of post-movie Megatrons.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771636)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2016 @ 11:21pm CST
Yes it totally takes away the point of Megatron disguising himself as a uh... Cybertronian space ship.
Yeah
I agree with you about the issue when thier supposed to be a earth vehicle but it's dumb when your talking about a fictional alien's look.
Slag me and my lack of proofreading I was trying to say prime and movie Megatron never meant to refer to Optimus.
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2016 @ 11:21pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
It also totally takes away from the idea of robots in disguise and the idea of transforming. To me, a robot head should not be obviously seen in robot mode, but thats just me.
Yes it totally takes away the point of Megatron disguising himself as a uh... Cybertronian space ship.
Yeah
I agree with you about the issue when thier supposed to be a earth vehicle but it's dumb when your talking about a fictional alien's look.
william-james88 wrote:
Prime?
Slag me and my lack of proofreading I was trying to say prime and movie Megatron never meant to refer to Optimus.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771644)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 6th, 2016 @ 12:51am CST
Okay technically, Rodimus doesn't transform into the RodPod, so that's not quite the same. Close, but no cigar. But Megatron there certainly counts. In fact, he takes it one step further by not only transforming into a larger version of his own head, he ALSO has an even larger version of his own head as his personal flagship. The only way he could be any more narcissistic is if his regular head also happens to transform into a smaller version of himself, which in turn was also able to detach it's own head.
Headception.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 6th, 2016 @ 12:51am CST
william-james88 wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote: I mean really, how egotistical do you have to be to transform into a larger version of your own head, and how do I get a membership to that club?
I can think of a few other bots who probably have membership:
Okay technically, Rodimus doesn't transform into the RodPod, so that's not quite the same. Close, but no cigar. But Megatron there certainly counts. In fact, he takes it one step further by not only transforming into a larger version of his own head, he ALSO has an even larger version of his own head as his personal flagship. The only way he could be any more narcissistic is if his regular head also happens to transform into a smaller version of himself, which in turn was also able to detach it's own head.
Headception.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771646)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 6th, 2016 @ 1:24am CST
Except when you look at the first leader class megatron, all he has to hide his face is that little bit of plastic that looks like an after thought. That is just lazy engineering that could of been resolved with a little bit of work.
In a sense, it reminds me of the weak point you're supposed to aim for in video games when fighting bosses.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 6th, 2016 @ 1:24am CST
Deadput wrote:william-james88 wrote:
It also totally takes away from the idea of robots in disguise and the idea of transforming. To me, a robot head should not be obviously seen in robot mode, but thats just me.
Yes it totally takes away the point of Megatron disguising himself as a uh... Cybertronian space ship.
Yeah
I agree with you about the issue when thier supposed to be a earth vehicle but it's dumb when your talking about a fictional alien's look.william-james88 wrote:
Prime?
Slag me and my lack of proofreading I was trying to say prime and movie Megatron never meant to refer to Optimus.
Except when you look at the first leader class megatron, all he has to hide his face is that little bit of plastic that looks like an after thought. That is just lazy engineering that could of been resolved with a little bit of work.
In a sense, it reminds me of the weak point you're supposed to aim for in video games when fighting bosses.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771654)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 6th, 2016 @ 2:53am CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 6th, 2016 @ 2:53am CST
I like Fallen and 2007 Meg's altforms cos i like alien-looking spacecrafts like that rather than the usual generic blocky types. And as for the visible head on Megatron? He's not supposed to be in disguise anyway by that point (it's only really by the third movie when he turns into a truck that he's truly requiring a proper earth disguise and that makes sense in his story because of his retreating at end of RotF), the alt-form is more just him turning his body into something better for fast travel. The flap just might be there to protect his face I guess. Hell, I dunno. I prefer them having some kind of mobile alt-form than say...turning into a tape deck that just sits there and needs to be transported by somebody else but maybe that's just me. 
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771671)
Posted by King Kuuga on March 6th, 2016 @ 8:04am CST
Posted by King Kuuga on March 6th, 2016 @ 8:04am CST
The first rule of Transformers is you hide your head in your alt mode, no matter how realistic or unrealistic said alt mode is.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771678)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 6th, 2016 @ 9:36am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 6th, 2016 @ 9:36am CST
Not a bad list, though I think context should be taken into consideration. Megatron's alt modes don't look recognizable, but only because you're trying to compare him to Earth vehicles. In the case of TFA, his leader class version was an Earth helicopter, and it was pretty cool. But his Voyager version was his Cybertronian mode. Makes good sense. The alt mode from the 1st film also makes perfect sense, as it represents Megatron' strengths as a leader of an army of invaders/conquerors. Just because it doesn't resemble anything on Earth doesn't make it a bad alt mode. He just never scanned an Earth vehicle, due to crashing before the modern age even evolved, or simply because he didn't want to. Same goes for Prime Megatron, maybe he just wanted to keep his badass vehicle mode. Another thing I want to say about this mold (or even the Voyager version) is that it would make a near-perfect mold for a G2 comics-accurate Jhiaxus. As for Armada Overload, I'm gonna guess you are either not a fan of Armada, or at the very least didn't get into it when it 1st came out, as Overload's alt mode is very easy to tell, and I believe him carrying Jetfire while being attached to Prime is even part of the instructions (thus explaining the alt mode). He also transforms into shoulder cannons for either super-mode Prime or Jet Convoy.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771684)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 6th, 2016 @ 10:23am CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 6th, 2016 @ 10:23am CST
You know who's got a wack alt mode? Emerging Shockblast. The tank mode is serviceable, but the "satellite" mode is basically him doing a jumping jack.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771691)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 6th, 2016 @ 11:13am CST
Personally, It's the other way around. The tank mode is an aftertought but the satellite mode is awesome and perfect.
By your yoga pose logic, hundreds of transformers and Gobots are just basically this:
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 6th, 2016 @ 11:13am CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:You know who's got a wack alt mode? Emerging Shockblast. The tank mode is serviceable, but the "satellite" mode is basically him doing a jumping jack.
Personally, It's the other way around. The tank mode is an aftertought but the satellite mode is awesome and perfect.
By your yoga pose logic, hundreds of transformers and Gobots are just basically this:
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771723)
Posted by kurthy on March 6th, 2016 @ 9:15pm CST
Posted by kurthy on March 6th, 2016 @ 9:15pm CST
I'm just glad I only own 2 of these molds, and both of them are part of my son's collection.
BH Megatron because I promised at one point to buy him the next matching pair of OP and Meg at retail, which happened to be during Beast Hunters.
The other is Overload, which is totally justified if you already have OP, Jetfire, wrist-shiv Megatron and Tidal Wave.
BH Megatron because I promised at one point to buy him the next matching pair of OP and Meg at retail, which happened to be during Beast Hunters.
The other is Overload, which is totally justified if you already have OP, Jetfire, wrist-shiv Megatron and Tidal Wave.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771749)
Posted by Lucky Logician on March 6th, 2016 @ 9:44pm CST
Posted by Lucky Logician on March 6th, 2016 @ 9:44pm CST
Personally, I like this list and find it to be pretty accurate. Thanks for addressing Gunrunner. I know that, technically, his alt mode includes the jet. That said, he isn't even a bomb or landing gear or anything. And if we're being completely honest, the jet actually looks better without him attached underneath.
Since so many people aren't happy with the hate for Megatron, let me give them more fuel to their rage.
Here is another Megs that suffers from a "you only say indistinguishable cause it doesn't look like something from earth" mode. It just looks like a random mish-mash chimera creature. (Yes, I know that's basically what it was in the show. But if you ask a child to tell you what it is, he'll just shrug. At least the child might guess spaceship for some of the other Megatrons on this list.)
As a side note, what about doing a Most Indistinguishable Robot Modes? I've got a perfect one for you right here. If you haven't seen the show, then you have no clue what was going on with this guy.
Since so many people aren't happy with the hate for Megatron, let me give them more fuel to their rage.
Here is another Megs that suffers from a "you only say indistinguishable cause it doesn't look like something from earth" mode. It just looks like a random mish-mash chimera creature. (Yes, I know that's basically what it was in the show. But if you ask a child to tell you what it is, he'll just shrug. At least the child might guess spaceship for some of the other Megatrons on this list.)As a side note, what about doing a Most Indistinguishable Robot Modes? I've got a perfect one for you right here. If you haven't seen the show, then you have no clue what was going on with this guy.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771754)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 6th, 2016 @ 10:00pm CST
Oi! You! Don't make fun of Rodders! He even has a cool and pretty distinguished alt mode too!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 6th, 2016 @ 10:00pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote: I mean really, how egotistical do you have to be to transform into a larger version of your own head, and how do I get a membership to that club?
I can think of a few other bots who probably have membership:
Oi! You! Don't make fun of Rodders! He even has a cool and pretty distinguished alt mode too!
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771768)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 6th, 2016 @ 10:43pm CST
It's clearly a dragon and a werewolf
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 6th, 2016 @ 10:43pm CST
Lucky Logician wrote:Personally, I like this list and find it to be pretty accurate. Thanks for addressing Gunrunner. I know that, technically, his alt mode includes the jet. That said, he isn't even a bomb or landing gear or anything. And if we're being completely honest, the jet actually looks better without him attached underneath.
Since so many people aren't happy with the hate for Megatron, let me give them more fuel to their rage.
It's clearly a dragon and a werewolf
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771769)
Posted by william-james88 on March 6th, 2016 @ 10:46pm CST
Woah woah waoh, wait a minute guys. When does it say I am comparing this to what we expect from earth modes? I am simply talking about lazy looking alt modes that don't look like anything. Some happen to be Cybertronian jets, but so what, we can't expect better than this? The first moments of the Transformers legacy is a shot of cool looking cybertronian jets, the Tetrojets, and they gave a firm idea of how the world of Transformers operated.
Does anyone see their heads peering out? No. Instead we have gorgeous and unique designs that stand out from their robot mode. I really feel that having a robot simply rearanged for a flight mode is lazy in terms of a transformers toy and the legacy of that name. Every entry on this list feels like they are in mid transformation since none of these alt modes look like fully realized vehicles, just an in between mode like Gen Whirl's Gerwalk mode.
That is all I am juging them on. In two weeks, we will see the flipside to these and how a "cybertronian" vehicle can be far more than just the bot mode rearanged but instead a beautiful new vehicle that can be fully appreciated as its own toy. Transformers are supposed to be 2 toys in 1 and none of these on this list fulfill that promise.
I was just talking about membership to the ego club, I didnt think you had to transform into your own head, just that it would be one of the ways of admittance, along with having a ship that was a big version of your head.
I do know him, and this is a pretty fun twist to the idea. And wow, I was thinking more vehicles but yeah, that "Megs" totally fits that bill! I still find it odd how the toy and the show model's "dragon mode" doesnt have eyes and back legs. And yeah I completely agree that Gunrunner's alt mode would be better if it was just the jet. But then it wouldnt be a transformer (which then again, he barely is anyway, that was an odd era for Transformers toys).
Posted by william-james88 on March 6th, 2016 @ 10:46pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Not a bad list, though I think context should be taken into consideration. Megatron's alt modes don't look recognizable, but only because you're trying to compare him to Earth vehicles.
Carnivius_Prime wrote:I like Fallen and 2007 Meg's altforms cos i like alien-looking spacecrafts like that rather than the usual generic blocky types. And as for the visible head on Megatron? He's not supposed to be in disguise anyway by that point (...) the alt-form is more just him turning his body into something better for fast travel.
Deadput wrote:I agree with you about the issue when thier supposed to be a earth vehicle but it's dumb when your talking about a fictional alien's look.
Woah woah waoh, wait a minute guys. When does it say I am comparing this to what we expect from earth modes? I am simply talking about lazy looking alt modes that don't look like anything. Some happen to be Cybertronian jets, but so what, we can't expect better than this? The first moments of the Transformers legacy is a shot of cool looking cybertronian jets, the Tetrojets, and they gave a firm idea of how the world of Transformers operated.
Does anyone see their heads peering out? No. Instead we have gorgeous and unique designs that stand out from their robot mode. I really feel that having a robot simply rearanged for a flight mode is lazy in terms of a transformers toy and the legacy of that name. Every entry on this list feels like they are in mid transformation since none of these alt modes look like fully realized vehicles, just an in between mode like Gen Whirl's Gerwalk mode.
That is all I am juging them on. In two weeks, we will see the flipside to these and how a "cybertronian" vehicle can be far more than just the bot mode rearanged but instead a beautiful new vehicle that can be fully appreciated as its own toy. Transformers are supposed to be 2 toys in 1 and none of these on this list fulfill that promise.
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Okay technically, Rodimus doesn't transform into the RodPod, so that's not quite the same. Close, but no cigar.
I was just talking about membership to the ego club, I didnt think you had to transform into your own head, just that it would be one of the ways of admittance, along with having a ship that was a big version of your head.
Lucky Logician wrote:Personally, I like this list and find it to be pretty accurate. Thanks for addressing Gunrunner. I know that, technically, his alt mode includes the jet. That said, he isn't even a bomb or landing gear or anything. And if we're being completely honest, the jet actually looks better without him attached underneath.
Since so many people aren't happy with the hate for Megatron, let me give them more fuel to their rage.
As a side note, what about doing a Most Indistinguishable Robot Modes? I've got a perfect one for you right here. If you haven't seen the show, then you have no clue what was going on with this guy.
I do know him, and this is a pretty fun twist to the idea. And wow, I was thinking more vehicles but yeah, that "Megs" totally fits that bill! I still find it odd how the toy and the show model's "dragon mode" doesnt have eyes and back legs. And yeah I completely agree that Gunrunner's alt mode would be better if it was just the jet. But then it wouldnt be a transformer (which then again, he barely is anyway, that was an odd era for Transformers toys).
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Emerging Shockblast
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771779)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 6th, 2016 @ 11:22pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 6th, 2016 @ 11:22pm CST
You read that right; Emerging Shockblast. That's what I named my action master.
Autocorrect strikes back.
Autocorrect strikes back.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771781)
Posted by Zeedust on March 6th, 2016 @ 11:34pm CST
I meant useless for whoever turns into it.
Posted by Zeedust on March 6th, 2016 @ 11:34pm CST
kurthy wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, my personal "honnorable mention":
Gobots ROCK LORDS!
Those aren't indistinguishable. They're obviously rocks. Now if there were a list for USELESS alt modes, you'd be spot on.
Useless? Oh, no. Do you know how many windows I broke because I had a transformer that I could throw around? It had a great job of increasing window/TV repair in the U.S. in the '80s.
I meant useless for whoever turns into it.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771783)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 7th, 2016 @ 12:08am CST
I think anim. voyager megs makes it automatically for the sole reason that he doesn't even look like his show counterpart
Posted by Hellscream9999 on March 7th, 2016 @ 12:08am CST
william-james88 wrote:Woah woah waoh, wait a minute guys. When does it say I am comparing this to what we expect from earth modes? I am simply talking about lazy looking alt modes that don't look like anything. Some happen to be Cybertronian jets, but so what, we can't expect better than this? The first moments of the Transformers legacy is a shot of cool looking cybertronian jets, the Tetrojets, and they gave a firm idea of how the world of Transformers operated.
Does anyone see their heads peering out? No. Instead we have gorgeous and unique designs that stand out from their robot mode. I really feel that having a robot simply rearanged for a flight mode is lazy in terms of a transformers toy and the legacy of that name. Every entry on this list feels like they are in mid transformation since none of these alt modes look like fully realized vehicles, just an in between mode like Gen Whirl's Gerwalk mode.
I think anim. voyager megs makes it automatically for the sole reason that he doesn't even look like his show counterpart
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771790)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 7th, 2016 @ 4:38am CST
Will, Cybertron Starscream better make your next list.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 7th, 2016 @ 4:38am CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Woah woah waoh, wait a minute guys. When does it say I am comparing this to what we expect from earth modes? I am simply talking about lazy looking alt modes that don't look like anything. Some happen to be Cybertronian jets, but so what, we can't expect better than this? The first moments of the Transformers legacy is a shot of cool looking cybertronian jets, the Tetrojets, and they gave a firm idea of how the world of Transformers operated.
Does anyone see their heads peering out? No. Instead we have gorgeous and unique designs that stand out from their robot mode. I really feel that having a robot simply rearanged for a flight mode is lazy in terms of a transformers toy and the legacy of that name. Every entry on this list feels like they are in mid transformation since none of these alt modes look like fully realized vehicles, just an in between mode like Gen Whirl's Gerwalk mode.
I think anim. voyager megs makes it automatically for the sole reason that he doesn't even look like his show counterpart
Will, Cybertron Starscream better make your next list.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771796)
Posted by william-james88 on March 7th, 2016 @ 6:29am CST
You wont be dissapointed.
Posted by william-james88 on March 7th, 2016 @ 6:29am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Will, Cybertron Starscream better make your next list.
You wont be dissapointed.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771812)
Posted by YRQRM0 on March 7th, 2016 @ 8:44am CST
Posted by YRQRM0 on March 7th, 2016 @ 8:44am CST
Maybe it's nostalgia bias, but I always thought the minicon did a lot of Overload's alt mode, in that it made it look like a giant badass weapon being hauled around (which is essentially what he is). And the fact that he could connect to Armada Prime's trailer was awesome.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771851)
Posted by Kyleor on March 7th, 2016 @ 10:54am CST
Overload is pretty awesome, especially when linked up on Optimus and Jetfire, aka Overkill Optimus mode.
Posted by Kyleor on March 7th, 2016 @ 10:54am CST
Randomus wrote:Overload was a transporter/launcher for Jetfire. (Although I guess you need Jetfire for that to be obvious.)
EDIT: This dude's got pictures!
http://www.darklorddungeon.com.ph/2011/ ... f.html?m=1
Overload is pretty awesome, especially when linked up on Optimus and Jetfire, aka Overkill Optimus mode.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771943)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 7th, 2016 @ 4:30pm CST
Still, that Cybertron one and the FoC version, BOTH do have the VHS (visible head syndrome). However, for me, they do work because unless you are looking for it, the head hide kinda camouflage itself in altmode. Kinda cheating over the "no visible head" rule though.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 7th, 2016 @ 4:30pm CST
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Will, Cybertron Starscream better make your next list.
You wont be dissapointed.
Still, that Cybertron one and the FoC version, BOTH do have the VHS (visible head syndrome). However, for me, they do work because unless you are looking for it, the head hide kinda camouflage itself in altmode. Kinda cheating over the "no visible head" rule though.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1771945)
Posted by william-james88 on March 7th, 2016 @ 4:45pm CST
Its really not obvious on the galaxy force one. And it is hidden since the designers made sure that it is covered all around and up in the back. Camouflage is a perfect word. They definitely try to hide it, same with Titanium Fallen and RID Megatronus. Those examples are perfectly fine for me, they dont annoy me in the least. I find the FOC seeker a bit mroe annoying since it is central in the plane and right in front of you. Not as bad as BM Blastcharge but not too far off.
But I did already spend 2 lists going over all this. For those who are new to these, Welcome!
Here is the discussion on Worst cases of Visible Head Syndrome
Ad here is the discussion on the best cases.
Posted by william-james88 on March 7th, 2016 @ 4:45pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Still, that Cybertron one and the FoC version, BOTH do have the VHS (visible head syndrome). However, for me, they do work because unless you are looking for it, the head hide kinda camouflage itself in altmode. Kinda cheating over the "no visible head" rule though.
Its really not obvious on the galaxy force one. And it is hidden since the designers made sure that it is covered all around and up in the back. Camouflage is a perfect word. They definitely try to hide it, same with Titanium Fallen and RID Megatronus. Those examples are perfectly fine for me, they dont annoy me in the least. I find the FOC seeker a bit mroe annoying since it is central in the plane and right in front of you. Not as bad as BM Blastcharge but not too far off.
But I did already spend 2 lists going over all this. For those who are new to these, Welcome!
Here is the discussion on Worst cases of Visible Head Syndrome
Ad here is the discussion on the best cases.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1772033)
Posted by fenrir72 on March 8th, 2016 @ 7:01am CST
Posted by fenrir72 on March 8th, 2016 @ 7:01am CST
Micron Legend UM is supposed to be a Shuttle carrier so Jetfire is supposed to load on to those back frame. The old Takara ML box illustrated it.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1772182)
Posted by UltraMarginal on March 9th, 2016 @ 12:35am CST
Posted by UltraMarginal on March 9th, 2016 @ 12:35am CST
I've got to disagree with your list, only because ROTF Ravage isn't on there.
the official alt mode for that toy is to roll up in a ball.
I'd also like to comment on the TF Prime unicron. I think that toy is brilliant. If you consider it from the scale of the legion class toys being released at the time. It's the giant mountain at the end of Season 1 that Prime and Megatron battle in front of.
The shins form the sides of the mountain and the 'unicron wing bones' are lightening forks and as you said, the face is there representing the life force of Unicron existing in the living earth.
Add to that the combined mode with the Megatron toy gives one of the closest representations of the possessed Megatron in the series final you will ever find.
the official alt mode for that toy is to roll up in a ball.
I'd also like to comment on the TF Prime unicron. I think that toy is brilliant. If you consider it from the scale of the legion class toys being released at the time. It's the giant mountain at the end of Season 1 that Prime and Megatron battle in front of.
The shins form the sides of the mountain and the 'unicron wing bones' are lightening forks and as you said, the face is there representing the life force of Unicron existing in the living earth.
Add to that the combined mode with the Megatron toy gives one of the closest representations of the possessed Megatron in the series final you will ever find.
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1773489)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on March 17th, 2016 @ 2:34pm CDT
The second rule of Transformers is the first rule does not apply to Sky Lynx, heh.
Anyway, I don't have Overload, but I do have the Ultra Magnus redeco, and I think he looks pretty good being towed behind Optimus and carrying Jetfire.
Honestly, I'd put some of the RID15 minicons on this list. Drift's guys turn into... what... chunky frisbees? Huh?
Posted by Optimum Supreme on March 17th, 2016 @ 2:34pm CDT
That Bot wrote:The first rule of Transformers is you hide your head in your alt mode, no matter how realistic or unrealistic said alt mode is.
The second rule of Transformers is the first rule does not apply to Sky Lynx, heh.
Anyway, I don't have Overload, but I do have the Ultra Magnus redeco, and I think he looks pretty good being towed behind Optimus and carrying Jetfire.
Honestly, I'd put some of the RID15 minicons on this list. Drift's guys turn into... what... chunky frisbees? Huh?
Re: Top 5 Most Indistinguishable Alt Modes Among Transformers Toys (1773491)
Posted by william-james88 on March 17th, 2016 @ 2:39pm CDT
He definitely looks good with something covering him, but thats kind of saying a TF looks good if you dont see it. A bunch of people got Overload as kids but not Jetfire and were stuck with the mess I describe. What I mean to say is that he doesnt work on his own and yet was sold on his own. And thus, is judged accordingly.
The minicons turn into pods and torpedos and looks like that.
Ok, so this saturday we look at cybertronian modes that were well done and I have split that into 2 lists: land vehicles and air vehicles.
Which one would you guys and gals like to see and discuss first?
Posted by william-james88 on March 17th, 2016 @ 2:39pm CDT
Optimum Supreme wrote:That Bot wrote:The first rule of Transformers is you hide your head in your alt mode, no matter how realistic or unrealistic said alt mode is.
The second rule of Transformers is the first rule does not apply to Sky Lynx, heh.
Anyway, I don't have Overload, but I do have the Ultra Magnus redeco, and I think he looks pretty good being towed behind Optimus and carrying Jetfire.
Honestly, I'd put some of the RID15 minicons on this list. Drift's guys turn into... what... chunky frisbees? Huh?
He definitely looks good with something covering him, but thats kind of saying a TF looks good if you dont see it. A bunch of people got Overload as kids but not Jetfire and were stuck with the mess I describe. What I mean to say is that he doesnt work on his own and yet was sold on his own. And thus, is judged accordingly.
The minicons turn into pods and torpedos and looks like that.
Ok, so this saturday we look at cybertronian modes that were well done and I have split that into 2 lists: land vehicles and air vehicles.
Which one would you guys and gals like to see and discuss first?
