Titans Return Primitive Skateboarding Black Power Master Optimus Prime Revealed

... and looking at his comic appearance we should all should have seen that coming, looking at the shape of the shoulders:



Sure, IDW Kup had them too, but still...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:... and looking at his comic appearance we should all should have seen that coming, looking at the shape of the shoulders:

When is that from? Before or after the thrilling 30's deluxe?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:... and looking at his comic appearance we should all should have seen that coming, looking at the shape of the shoulders:

Are... are Hasbro still using this design? Seriously?

What is it with them taking obscure one-off pre-2011 IDW stuff? This design of Orion Pax that showed up once in a few panels, Thunderwing... I am so confused.

Terrsolpix wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:... and looking at his comic appearance we should all should have seen that coming, looking at the shape of the shoulders:

When is that from? Before or after the thrilling 30's deluxe?

This comic was made specifically for the T30 Deluxe. The design did appear in IDW before though - once - in Spotlight: Blurr.

Kurona wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:... and looking at his comic appearance we should all should have seen that coming, looking at the shape of the shoulders:

When is that from? Before or after the thrilling 30's deluxe?

This comic was made specifically for the T30 Deluxe. The design did appear in IDW before though - once - in Spotlight: Blurr.

Ok then, that confirms my suspicion of the TR Orion being based off the original toy, similar to how Kup was tooled (also doesn't hurt they were the exact same toy).

The shoulders on one version of IDW Kup and that version of Orion Pax are similar enough for reuse without retooling it looks like. Could be coincidence, but one that works for Hasbro. It's still mostly Kup in the chest and leg designs, but enough lines up for Orion, especially given the e-Hobby release.

Albatross250 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

I wish we had a better BWII Galvatron

I always thought that they should have done a combinerwars vehicon combiner.
Cyclonus as jetstorm
Rook as strika
Groove as thrust
Blades as obsidion
And brawl as tankor
But whatever...

Kurona wrote:Huh. Maybe it's a fifth boxset after the tech spec ones? This is getting interesting...

It's more likely to be an SDCC exclusive. It has the boxset name on it too, an indivual instruction sheet, and it is leaking at the exact same time that SDCC boxset components leak (like the arcee redeco 2 years back).

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Huh. Maybe it's a fifth boxset after the tech spec ones? This is getting interesting...

It's more likely to be an SDCC exclusive. It has the boxset name on it too, an indivual instruction sheet, and it is leaking at the exact same time that SDCC boxset components leak (like the arcee redeco 2 years back).

If so, I'm guessing Hasbro will jump the sharkticon and give us a TR Windblade in some one-off deco.

Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

So glad I bought it day 2. Also confirmed my theory that the order of products is based on current stock.

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

So glad I bought it day 2. Also confirmed my theory that the order of products is based on current stock.

What do you mean by that second part? How can it be current if its a preorder and not arrived yet?

william-james88 wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

So glad I bought it day 2. Also confirmed my theory that the order of products is based on current stock.

What do you mean by that second part? How can it be current if its a preorder and not arrived yet?

Poor word choice on my part, available preorders would be the proper term (I think). During the 2 days available to preorder, its ranking started high on the first page of TR products, but slowly descended to the second page and most likely the third, before running out of preorders. The highest figures are the big tickets that don't move, but below are case assortments of older waves and generally less liked figures. That's where my theory comes from, and I am almost certain it is true from the data I gathered during the open preorders for seige on cybertron.

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

So glad I bought it day 2. Also confirmed my theory that the order of products is based on current stock.

What do you mean by that second part? How can it be current if its a preorder and not arrived yet?

Poor word choice on my part, available preorders would be the proper term (I think). During the 2 days available to preorder, its ranking started high on the first page of TR products, but slowly descended to the second page and most likely the third, before running out of preorders. The highest figures are the big tickets that don't move, but below are case assortments of older waves and generally less liked figures. That's where my theory comes from, and I am almost certain it is true from the data I gathered during the open preorders for seige on cybertron.

Then I will cut right to the chase and ask you if, through your theory, this would mean that there will be no more sets available once Hasbro send them the boxsets?
Is it just the preorder that is sold out, or should fans really start looking at other international outlets?

william-james88 wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

So glad I bought it day 2. Also confirmed my theory that the order of products is based on current stock.

What do you mean by that second part? How can it be current if its a preorder and not arrived yet?

Poor word choice on my part, available preorders would be the proper term (I think). During the 2 days available to preorder, its ranking started high on the first page of TR products, but slowly descended to the second page and most likely the third, before running out of preorders. The highest figures are the big tickets that don't move, but below are case assortments of older waves and generally less liked figures. That's where my theory comes from, and I am almost certain it is true from the data I gathered during the open preorders for seige on cybertron.

Then I will cut right to the chase and ask you if, through your theory, this would mean that there will be no more sets available once Hasbro send them the boxsets?
Is it just the preorder that is sold out, or should fans really start looking at other international outlets?

I'd say to look elsewhere for now. Wait till mid June then check back. If not, they will almost certainly have some available to order after the preorders ship.

EDIT: if this truely is a BBTS exclusive, Hasbro will definitely send more.

Terrsolpix wrote:EDIT: if this truely is a BBTS exclusive, Hasbro will definitely send more.

Thanks for your opinions And I can confirm, this is truly a BBTS exclusive... in the US. Meaning that other countries will have their own outlets but in the US proper, you can only buy it through them.

its available elsewhere in Canada, for instance:

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... set/38190/

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Wow that didn't take long. Not even a week.

nycPrime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Wow that didn't take long. Not even a week.

Are you kidding? It has the takara PMOP but without ugly white, and is also 2/3 of the price and comes with extra figures if you're only after Optimus.

nycPrime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Wow that didn't take long. Not even a week.

I just checked and it's in stock. Maybe someone canceled?

Terrsolpix wrote:

nycPrime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Wow that didn't take long. Not even a week.

Are you kidding? It has the takara PMOP but without ugly white, and is also 2/3 of the price and comes with extra figures if you're only after Optimus.

Not surprised it sold out (which is why I PO'd day 1), but thought it would take a little longer than a week.

Terrsolpix wrote:

nycPrime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Wow that didn't take long. Not even a week.

Are you kidding? It has the takara PMOP but without ugly white, and is also 2/3 of the price and comes with extra figures if you're only after Optimus.

I think Takara's Super Ginrai has the better color scheme. I think the overload of blue is more ugly than the white. Also, the Takara color scheme is actually accurate to Ginrai's animation model from Super God Masterforce.

Glad to know its back in stock, is anyone preordering it now.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:Huh. Maybe it's a fifth boxset after the tech spec ones? This is getting interesting...

I think this is the most plausible. Not counting Liokaiser, since he was a platinum release, combiner wars had 5 box sets so it would make sense for them to keep it consistent. 6 waves and 5 box sets per line (that's a lot of figures).

No idea who would be in this box set though. G2 Meg's seems obvious for at least one of the spots but who else? Leader class is out of uses besides Soundblaster and Twincast

When people like you say box sets, it sounds like baseball card sets. There are two differences. The set of baseball cards for a current year are cheaper, and the box sets are based on characters that aren't real. Though it would be nice if AI was that advanced.

Jason5billion wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:Huh. Maybe it's a fifth boxset after the tech spec ones? This is getting interesting...

I think this is the most plausible. Not counting Liokaiser, since he was a platinum release, combiner wars had 5 box sets so it would make sense for them to keep it consistent. 6 waves and 5 box sets per line (that's a lot of figures).

No idea who would be in this box set though. G2 Meg's seems obvious for at least one of the spots but who else? Leader class is out of uses besides Soundblaster and Twincast

When people like you say box sets, it sounds like baseball card sets. There are two differences. The set of baseball cards for a current year are cheaper, and the box sets are based on characters that aren't real. Though it would be nice if AI was that advanced.

Then get coding. I expect a maniacle war robot AI that can build a machine to make other AI's that will follow its command by reprogramming existing appliances.

Then maybe they'll be able to make toys and sell them for lower amounts than lots of companies do.

william-james88 wrote:Glad to know its back in stock, is anyone preordering it now.

Just looked again (looking up Legends Trypticon) and it is sold out...

Agamemnon wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Glad to know its back in stock, is anyone preordering it now.

Just looked again (looking up Legends Trypticon) and it is sold out...

It truly was a cancelled order then.

william-james88 wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Glad to know its back in stock, is anyone preordering it now.

Just looked again (looking up Legends Trypticon) and it is sold out...

It truly was a cancelled order then.

Yea, I've seen it pop in and out of stock a few times today while randomly checking for other things. It's currently out of stock. If you're on the fence, better hope there's another cancellation and best to jump on it if there is.

Can someone please tell me what coding is?

Back IN STOCK at BBTS!

Jason5billion wrote:Can someone please tell me what coding is?

Computer programming. Incidentally that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread

And is BBTS playing Red Light or something? Or are they dividing the batch up in smaller orders that get sold out quickly, to avoid a server crash?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Jason5billion wrote:Can someone please tell me what coding is?

Computer programming. Incidentally that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread

And is BBTS playing Red Light or something? Or are they dividing the batch up in smaller orders that get sold out quickly, to avoid a server crash?

I'm guessing people are canceling the preorders since the figures look nearly identical.

I thought coding would have to do with getting sets of Transformers for less.

Hi all!

First, thanks again for the input regarding Perceptor and Kup. Unfortunately Meijer did not have them in stock to exchange so I decided to return them. My only regret is losing out on that coupon I used. I wish Meijer would have given me a new one since it was good until 6/16.

Before I returned them I took a good look a Perceptor and Convex to be sure I wanted to exchange or purchase again at a later date. I was particularly interested in examining the bar the armature is attached to. Kids are going to break that. I think adults will break it too. It's a piss poor engineering decision by Hasbro. I wish they would have gone with the armature from the G1 toy that attached to the front and back of the neck and swiveled into place. I was never worried about breaking that when I was a kid.

I also noticed Convex's legs don't have the extra plastic jutting out alongside the shins that cover the gap in head mode. I noticed this because as I was examining Perceptor I saw the gap in his head. Because of both the issue with the armature (which I think I might need to grease to prevent breakage but I'm not so sure I want to do that) and the head hole I'm not so sure I want to take another chance on the toy should I come across him again.

And that's a real shame because I had a coupon at Target for 20% off one Transformer expiring on 6/6 and one of the two Targets I frequent finally had Brawn on the shelf. Brawn is awesome. My only complaint about Lengends figures is the lack of their weapons but Brawn himself is perfect. I like his rear roof spare tire shield and I like that I can easily store it unobtrusively on his back. I also love the ports on his forearms. I have a bag full of G1 cassette weapons and Brawn looks awesome with Overkill's rockets plugged into his forearms while holding either Grand Slam's double barreled guns or Raindance's rockets.

Nice to have been smart enough to keep my old G1 weapons stored away safely for when I need them. If I do get Perceptor I can give him his old G1 rifle instead of that weird sniper rifle that comes with him (which is fine for tank or unofficial base mode, just not as a handheld weapon).

Seaspray and Cosmos (reissue) have been spotted at US retail apparently. If any of you have seen them, please send us a pic so that we can front page it and give you a news credit!

william-james88 wrote:Seaspray and Cosmos (reissue) have been spotted at US retail apparently. If any of you have seen them, please send us a pic so that we can front page it and give you a news credit!

2 targets and a ToysRUs and nothing. I'll update you if I find either. I've got a ton of time to kill tomorrow so I'll try check the one where I first found the wave 1 TLK stuff the day after it was first spotted. They have a great reputation, and maybe have some major finds under their belt

william-james88 wrote:Seaspray and Cosmos (reissue) have been spotted at US retail apparently. If any of you have seen them, please send us a pic so that we can front page it and give you a news credit!

I'll let my family outsourced collectors know to keep an eye out! I believe they're stuck in National Harbor for their remaining week in the US, but if they have some spare time I'm sure they'd be happy to check around that area.

And on a related note to that, my faithful team found and purchased TR Percy, Topspin and Repugnus at Forbidden Planet in NYC! Communication isn't the most consistent at the moment so I'm not sure what other figures were there - though I would assume at the very least the rest of the Wave 4 Deluxes - or if there are any left now, but if anyone in that area is still looking for some of the newer-ish TR stuff it might be worth a check in there.

Taking a queue from the pictures of the black repaint of Voyager Prime, I put my Titans Return Voyager Prime into base mode. It's pretty cool.

I love how that base mode is pretty reminiscent of OG Laser Prime's trailer base. Especially with the gun atop the tower. Gonna have to give that a go!



Well, darn. Seib's galleries don't show it but the hand cannon plugs into the top of the tower.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The shoulders on one version of IDW Kup and that version of Orion Pax are similar enough for reuse without retooling it looks like. Could be coincidence, but one that works for Hasbro. It's still mostly Kup in the chest and leg designs, but enough lines up for Orion, especially given the e-Hobby release.

Yeah, can't forget about that e-Hobby release. I'm dead certain that that set was a major influence on this Orion Pax. And given who else got a Titans Return toy, we could well see a remake of the other half of the set.

To the person who commented on cartoon Orion Pax's look: That was kinda the idea. He was supposed to look like an ordinary slightly wimpy everyman to contrast with the buff, strong, hero he would be rebuilt into

Since we're showing off bases..... here's 3 originals and the laser prime base. The sentinel base is supposed to be remmenicent of an arena, the Meg base is supposed to be some form of military implacement, and Broadside's base is trying to look like a small airport crossed with and oil drilling platform.

Terrsolpix wrote:Since we're showing off bases..... here's 3 originals and the laser prime base. The sentinel base is supposed to be remmenicent of an arena, the Meg base is supposed to be some form of military implacement, and Broadside's base is trying to look like a small airport crossed with and oil drilling platform.

Those are great! I love Broadside's base mode!

Bradimus wrote: I was particularly interested in examining the bar the armature is attached to. Kids are going to break that. I think adults will break it too. It's a piss poor engineering decision by Hasbro. I wish they would have gone with the armature from the G1 toy that attached to the front and back of the neck and swiveled into place. I was never worried about breaking that when I was a kid.

You should have been, mine's been broken since 88 or so.

Via our usual acquaintance on Weibo by now, 淘宝店变形金刚改造工厂, we have images of the cards accompanying the upcoming wave of Transformers: Titans Return figures, featuring deluxes Misfire, Windblade, and Twin Twist, Leader Overlord, and Titan class Trypticon. Check them out below, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!

Why are they not releasing Slugslinger along with the other three? I mean REALLY.

RiddlerJ wrote:Why are they not releasing Slugslinger along with the other three? I mean REALLY.

2 retools of the same base in the same case? Not after putting bee and chase in the same case.

Terrsolpix wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Why are they not releasing Slugslinger along with the other three? I mean REALLY.

2 retools of the same base in the same case? Not after putting bee and chase in the same case.

But is there anybody else in wave 6? In any class?

He's gonna get dropped before release. I just know it.

RiddlerJ wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Why are they not releasing Slugslinger along with the other three? I mean REALLY.

2 retools of the same base in the same case? Not after putting bee and chase in the same case.

But is there anybody else in wave 6? In any class?

He's gonna get dropped before release. I just know it.

He'll probably show up at TJMaxx with terrible QC at $10. If wave 6 gets a full release like on CW, expect 2 more deluxes to accompany him.

RiddlerJ wrote:Why are they not releasing Slugslinger along with the other three? I mean REALLY.

'The other three' being Windblade, Twintwist and Misfire? Simply, I think it's because that wave was already deemed to have enough new Deluxe figures (bear in mind that Wave 4 has 5 new figs, so 3 new in Wave 5 balances it out back to an average of 4-per-wave); plus they still have another subsequent wave planned in which Slugslinger will be placed, presumably along with some other as-yet-unrevealed Deluxes. Even if they did include him in Wave 5 we still wouldn't be getting all three Targetmaster jets at once, so I'm not too bothered about waiting one more wave to complete the trio - especially since we at least know that they're all happening, looking at you cassettes .

RiddlerJ wrote:But is there anybody else in wave 6? In any class?

He's gonna get dropped before release. I just know it.

Not so far, but that's absolutely no indication that he's going to get dropped. It just means that they haven't yet revealed the other figures in his wave 6 months ahead of release (if we go by the "intended" release schedule). No way they'd drop him now, they clearly know we want it and it's so far along in the design process (especially considering it has new tooling, and isn't just a repaint or new head) that I can't imagine it'd be more cost-effective for them to drop him, barring some unforeseen totally awful problem with his particular use of the mold that would actually ruin the figure completely. (At which point, would you really want it released anyway if that was the case?)

Yeah, Wave 6 is gonna happen; we just don't know who's in it yet. That'll be a very nice surprise for us either at SDCC or maybe even in stores.

... more than likely Slugslinger or another Deluxe shows up early and we glimpse some of the wave through the cross-sells.