Transformers Titans Return Tribute: Orion Pax Confirmed

I hope the face sculpt looks as nice as the drawing does. Pax has a sweet beard

WreckerJack wrote:I hope the face sculpt looks as nice as the drawing does. Pax has a sweet beard

Is that not a chin guard?

Huh. Maybe it's a fifth boxset after the tech spec ones? This is getting interesting...

Insurgent wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:I hope the face sculpt looks as nice as the drawing does. Pax has a sweet beard

Is that not a chin guard?

Could be, but my mind's eye sees it as a beard.

Kurona wrote:Huh. Maybe it's a fifth boxset after the tech spec ones? This is getting interesting...

I think this is the most plausible. Not counting Liokaiser, since he was a platinum release, combiner wars had 5 box sets so it would make sense for them to keep it consistent. 6 waves and 5 box sets per line (that's a lot of figures).

No idea who would be in this box set though. G2 Meg's seems obvious for at least one of the spots but who else? Leader class is out of uses besides Soundblaster and Twincast

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:Huh. Maybe it's a fifth boxset after the tech spec ones? This is getting interesting...

I think this is the most plausible. Not counting Liokaiser, since he was a platinum release, combiner wars had 5 box sets so it would make sense for them to keep it consistent. 6 waves and 5 box sets per line (that's a lot of figures).

No idea who would be in this box set though. G2 Meg's seems obvious for at least one of the spots but who else? Leader class is out of uses besides Soundblaster and Twincast

While a bit arbitrary and subjective, I'd guess a boxset named as a 'tribute' to Transformers would have versions of very popular and well-known characters. Therefore I would think Soundblaster - as a version of Soundwave - would be a very good bet.

Please don't be an expensive hard to get exclusive... Please don't be an expensive hard to get exclusive... Please don't be an expensive hard to get exclusive...

Not sure on the head. As a Ginrai owner, I hoped Orion Pax would just see a reuse of PM Prime's Titan Master so I could have a way to get that mold myself. And if they have to do an original sculpt, it would be nice if it could look closer to this:



Still... Not a bad looking head, and maybe it will look better when we see it as more than just a drawing.

Kurona wrote:Huh. Maybe it's a fifth boxset after the tech spec ones? This is getting interesting...

I don't know. Some boards are saying it won't one of the TR box sets because it looks like an individual instruction sheet and the box sets instructions are all one giant sheet.

I'm my saying I agree. They could simply make individual sheets if they want.

I'm wondering if it's a con exclusive like Habsrocon or SDCC.

One would have thought, with how this current design team has been making several of these figures so close to their fictional appearances, that an Orion Pax from them would more closely resemble his original cartoon design, since we've yet to ever get an Orion Pax toy that actually looks like the cartoon version, but I guess that even the design team is aware of how ridiculously lame Orion Pax looked in the cartoon (i.e. - womanly curves and proportions, kissy lips, even his nasally voice) that the went for a different approach, like the previous design team did with the Thrilling 30 Orion Pax figure.

In addition to Orion Pax, snakas has a pic of a black redeco of Leader class Powermaster Optimus Prime, with the logo of Primitive Skateboarding printed on the side of the toy's trailer, suggesting it to be some kind of promotional tie-in figure.

TR Pax is an easy pass for me. After all, the thrilling 30 Orion Pax is one of the best transformers figures ever released. Clean robot mode, fun vehicle mode, and the most articulation I've ever seen on a deluxe figure.
It's an amazing figure and everyone should own some version of that mold.

Sabrblade wrote:

I wish we had a better BWII Galvatron

... and looking at his comic appearance we should all should have seen that coming, looking at the shape of the shoulders:



Sure, IDW Kup had them too, but still...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:... and looking at his comic appearance we should all should have seen that coming, looking at the shape of the shoulders:

When is that from? Before or after the thrilling 30's deluxe?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:... and looking at his comic appearance we should all should have seen that coming, looking at the shape of the shoulders:

Are... are Hasbro still using this design? Seriously?

What is it with them taking obscure one-off pre-2011 IDW stuff? This design of Orion Pax that showed up once in a few panels, Thunderwing... I am so confused.

Terrsolpix wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:... and looking at his comic appearance we should all should have seen that coming, looking at the shape of the shoulders:

When is that from? Before or after the thrilling 30's deluxe?

This comic was made specifically for the T30 Deluxe. The design did appear in IDW before though - once - in Spotlight: Blurr.

Kurona wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:... and looking at his comic appearance we should all should have seen that coming, looking at the shape of the shoulders:

When is that from? Before or after the thrilling 30's deluxe?

This comic was made specifically for the T30 Deluxe. The design did appear in IDW before though - once - in Spotlight: Blurr.

Ok then, that confirms my suspicion of the TR Orion being based off the original toy, similar to how Kup was tooled (also doesn't hurt they were the exact same toy).

The shoulders on one version of IDW Kup and that version of Orion Pax are similar enough for reuse without retooling it looks like. Could be coincidence, but one that works for Hasbro. It's still mostly Kup in the chest and leg designs, but enough lines up for Orion, especially given the e-Hobby release.

Albatross250 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

I wish we had a better BWII Galvatron

I always thought that they should have done a combinerwars vehicon combiner.
Cyclonus as jetstorm
Rook as strika
Groove as thrust
Blades as obsidion
And brawl as tankor
But whatever...

Kurona wrote:Huh. Maybe it's a fifth boxset after the tech spec ones? This is getting interesting...

It's more likely to be an SDCC exclusive. It has the boxset name on it too, an indivual instruction sheet, and it is leaking at the exact same time that SDCC boxset components leak (like the arcee redeco 2 years back).

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Huh. Maybe it's a fifth boxset after the tech spec ones? This is getting interesting...

It's more likely to be an SDCC exclusive. It has the boxset name on it too, an indivual instruction sheet, and it is leaking at the exact same time that SDCC boxset components leak (like the arcee redeco 2 years back).

If so, I'm guessing Hasbro will jump the sharkticon and give us a TR Windblade in some one-off deco.

Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

So glad I bought it day 2. Also confirmed my theory that the order of products is based on current stock.

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

So glad I bought it day 2. Also confirmed my theory that the order of products is based on current stock.

What do you mean by that second part? How can it be current if its a preorder and not arrived yet?

william-james88 wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

So glad I bought it day 2. Also confirmed my theory that the order of products is based on current stock.

What do you mean by that second part? How can it be current if its a preorder and not arrived yet?

Poor word choice on my part, available preorders would be the proper term (I think). During the 2 days available to preorder, its ranking started high on the first page of TR products, but slowly descended to the second page and most likely the third, before running out of preorders. The highest figures are the big tickets that don't move, but below are case assortments of older waves and generally less liked figures. That's where my theory comes from, and I am almost certain it is true from the data I gathered during the open preorders for seige on cybertron.

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

So glad I bought it day 2. Also confirmed my theory that the order of products is based on current stock.

What do you mean by that second part? How can it be current if its a preorder and not arrived yet?

Poor word choice on my part, available preorders would be the proper term (I think). During the 2 days available to preorder, its ranking started high on the first page of TR products, but slowly descended to the second page and most likely the third, before running out of preorders. The highest figures are the big tickets that don't move, but below are case assortments of older waves and generally less liked figures. That's where my theory comes from, and I am almost certain it is true from the data I gathered during the open preorders for seige on cybertron.

Then I will cut right to the chase and ask you if, through your theory, this would mean that there will be no more sets available once Hasbro send them the boxsets?
Is it just the preorder that is sold out, or should fans really start looking at other international outlets?

william-james88 wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

So glad I bought it day 2. Also confirmed my theory that the order of products is based on current stock.

What do you mean by that second part? How can it be current if its a preorder and not arrived yet?

Poor word choice on my part, available preorders would be the proper term (I think). During the 2 days available to preorder, its ranking started high on the first page of TR products, but slowly descended to the second page and most likely the third, before running out of preorders. The highest figures are the big tickets that don't move, but below are case assortments of older waves and generally less liked figures. That's where my theory comes from, and I am almost certain it is true from the data I gathered during the open preorders for seige on cybertron.

Then I will cut right to the chase and ask you if, through your theory, this would mean that there will be no more sets available once Hasbro send them the boxsets?
Is it just the preorder that is sold out, or should fans really start looking at other international outlets?

I'd say to look elsewhere for now. Wait till mid June then check back. If not, they will almost certainly have some available to order after the preorders ship.

EDIT: if this truely is a BBTS exclusive, Hasbro will definitely send more.

Terrsolpix wrote:EDIT: if this truely is a BBTS exclusive, Hasbro will definitely send more.

Thanks for your opinions And I can confirm, this is truly a BBTS exclusive... in the US. Meaning that other countries will have their own outlets but in the US proper, you can only buy it through them.

its available elsewhere in Canada, for instance:

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... set/38190/

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Wow that didn't take long. Not even a week.

nycPrime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Wow that didn't take long. Not even a week.

Are you kidding? It has the takara PMOP but without ugly white, and is also 2/3 of the price and comes with extra figures if you're only after Optimus.

nycPrime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Wow that didn't take long. Not even a week.

I just checked and it's in stock. Maybe someone canceled?

Terrsolpix wrote:

nycPrime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Wow that didn't take long. Not even a week.

Are you kidding? It has the takara PMOP but without ugly white, and is also 2/3 of the price and comes with extra figures if you're only after Optimus.

Not surprised it sold out (which is why I PO'd day 1), but thought it would take a little longer than a week.

Terrsolpix wrote:

nycPrime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Quick heads up guys, the Seige on Cybertron set is SOLD OUT at BBTS

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Wow that didn't take long. Not even a week.

Are you kidding? It has the takara PMOP but without ugly white, and is also 2/3 of the price and comes with extra figures if you're only after Optimus.

I think Takara's Super Ginrai has the better color scheme. I think the overload of blue is more ugly than the white. Also, the Takara color scheme is actually accurate to Ginrai's animation model from Super God Masterforce.

Glad to know its back in stock, is anyone preordering it now.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:Huh. Maybe it's a fifth boxset after the tech spec ones? This is getting interesting...

I think this is the most plausible. Not counting Liokaiser, since he was a platinum release, combiner wars had 5 box sets so it would make sense for them to keep it consistent. 6 waves and 5 box sets per line (that's a lot of figures).

No idea who would be in this box set though. G2 Meg's seems obvious for at least one of the spots but who else? Leader class is out of uses besides Soundblaster and Twincast

When people like you say box sets, it sounds like baseball card sets. There are two differences. The set of baseball cards for a current year are cheaper, and the box sets are based on characters that aren't real. Though it would be nice if AI was that advanced.

Jason5billion wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:Huh. Maybe it's a fifth boxset after the tech spec ones? This is getting interesting...

I think this is the most plausible. Not counting Liokaiser, since he was a platinum release, combiner wars had 5 box sets so it would make sense for them to keep it consistent. 6 waves and 5 box sets per line (that's a lot of figures).

No idea who would be in this box set though. G2 Meg's seems obvious for at least one of the spots but who else? Leader class is out of uses besides Soundblaster and Twincast

When people like you say box sets, it sounds like baseball card sets. There are two differences. The set of baseball cards for a current year are cheaper, and the box sets are based on characters that aren't real. Though it would be nice if AI was that advanced.

Then get coding. I expect a maniacle war robot AI that can build a machine to make other AI's that will follow its command by reprogramming existing appliances.

Then maybe they'll be able to make toys and sell them for lower amounts than lots of companies do.

william-james88 wrote:Glad to know its back in stock, is anyone preordering it now.

Just looked again (looking up Legends Trypticon) and it is sold out...

Agamemnon wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Glad to know its back in stock, is anyone preordering it now.

Just looked again (looking up Legends Trypticon) and it is sold out...

It truly was a cancelled order then.

william-james88 wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Glad to know its back in stock, is anyone preordering it now.

Just looked again (looking up Legends Trypticon) and it is sold out...

It truly was a cancelled order then.

Yea, I've seen it pop in and out of stock a few times today while randomly checking for other things. It's currently out of stock. If you're on the fence, better hope there's another cancellation and best to jump on it if there is.

Can someone please tell me what coding is?

Back IN STOCK at BBTS!

Jason5billion wrote:Can someone please tell me what coding is?

Computer programming. Incidentally that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread

And is BBTS playing Red Light or something? Or are they dividing the batch up in smaller orders that get sold out quickly, to avoid a server crash?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Jason5billion wrote:Can someone please tell me what coding is?

Computer programming. Incidentally that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread

And is BBTS playing Red Light or something? Or are they dividing the batch up in smaller orders that get sold out quickly, to avoid a server crash?

I'm guessing people are canceling the preorders since the figures look nearly identical.

I thought coding would have to do with getting sets of Transformers for less.

Hi all!

First, thanks again for the input regarding Perceptor and Kup. Unfortunately Meijer did not have them in stock to exchange so I decided to return them. My only regret is losing out on that coupon I used. I wish Meijer would have given me a new one since it was good until 6/16.

Before I returned them I took a good look a Perceptor and Convex to be sure I wanted to exchange or purchase again at a later date. I was particularly interested in examining the bar the armature is attached to. Kids are going to break that. I think adults will break it too. It's a piss poor engineering decision by Hasbro. I wish they would have gone with the armature from the G1 toy that attached to the front and back of the neck and swiveled into place. I was never worried about breaking that when I was a kid.

I also noticed Convex's legs don't have the extra plastic jutting out alongside the shins that cover the gap in head mode. I noticed this because as I was examining Perceptor I saw the gap in his head. Because of both the issue with the armature (which I think I might need to grease to prevent breakage but I'm not so sure I want to do that) and the head hole I'm not so sure I want to take another chance on the toy should I come across him again.

And that's a real shame because I had a coupon at Target for 20% off one Transformer expiring on 6/6 and one of the two Targets I frequent finally had Brawn on the shelf. Brawn is awesome. My only complaint about Lengends figures is the lack of their weapons but Brawn himself is perfect. I like his rear roof spare tire shield and I like that I can easily store it unobtrusively on his back. I also love the ports on his forearms. I have a bag full of G1 cassette weapons and Brawn looks awesome with Overkill's rockets plugged into his forearms while holding either Grand Slam's double barreled guns or Raindance's rockets.

Nice to have been smart enough to keep my old G1 weapons stored away safely for when I need them. If I do get Perceptor I can give him his old G1 rifle instead of that weird sniper rifle that comes with him (which is fine for tank or unofficial base mode, just not as a handheld weapon).

Seaspray and Cosmos (reissue) have been spotted at US retail apparently. If any of you have seen them, please send us a pic so that we can front page it and give you a news credit!

william-james88 wrote:Seaspray and Cosmos (reissue) have been spotted at US retail apparently. If any of you have seen them, please send us a pic so that we can front page it and give you a news credit!

2 targets and a ToysRUs and nothing. I'll update you if I find either. I've got a ton of time to kill tomorrow so I'll try check the one where I first found the wave 1 TLK stuff the day after it was first spotted. They have a great reputation, and maybe have some major finds under their belt

william-james88 wrote:Seaspray and Cosmos (reissue) have been spotted at US retail apparently. If any of you have seen them, please send us a pic so that we can front page it and give you a news credit!

I'll let my family outsourced collectors know to keep an eye out! I believe they're stuck in National Harbor for their remaining week in the US, but if they have some spare time I'm sure they'd be happy to check around that area.

And on a related note to that, my faithful team found and purchased TR Percy, Topspin and Repugnus at Forbidden Planet in NYC! Communication isn't the most consistent at the moment so I'm not sure what other figures were there - though I would assume at the very least the rest of the Wave 4 Deluxes - or if there are any left now, but if anyone in that area is still looking for some of the newer-ish TR stuff it might be worth a check in there.

Taking a queue from the pictures of the black repaint of Voyager Prime, I put my Titans Return Voyager Prime into base mode. It's pretty cool.