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Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed

Transformers News: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed

Saturday, March 4th, 2017 9:17PM CST

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Thanks to Ozformers we bring you word of the newest Titans Return reveals: Misfire and Slugslinger! These 2 figures were found at the Australia Toy Fair and both appear to at least share some transformation hints with Triggerhappy, mostly visible in the legs. Both figures are predicted to be part of either the 2nd half of wave 5 (along with Windblade and Twintwist) or part of wave 6. Check out the images below and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

Transformers News: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed

Transformers News: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed

Transformers News: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed

Transformers News: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed

Transformers News: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed
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Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864281)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:19pm CST
Not gonna lie.. this really bums me out. I have yet to find wave 3 deluxes and now it looks like Triggerhappy is the basis for 4 figures now. Man, going the miles...
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864282)
Posted by ebo716 on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:25pm CST
It looks like the legs and hands are exactly the same as triggerhappy but as far as I can tell everything else is different
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864283)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:28pm CST
Well dang! If they're as good as Triggerhappy himself, I'll be glad to pick these up!
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864284)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:29pm CST
Huh, interesting. So it looks like Triggerhappy's legs were reused for both, but Misfire and Slugslinger share a newly tooled part: the waist piece.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864285)
Posted by bodrock on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:31pm CST
Those colors make me WANT THEM MOAR :CON:
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864286)
Posted by Albatross250 on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:32pm CST
Oh cool, they did the Japanese Decepticon Logo on these two
Now i'm happy to hear them they're revealed, :twisted:
:CON: :CON: :CON: :CON: :CON:
Still, no Autobot Targetmasters, but the Decepticon Targetmasters got more better~ :D :D :-D :-D
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864288)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:37pm CST
que silly springer was right music
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864289)
Posted by SureShot18 on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:46pm CST
Ooh they look nice. Definitely getting Misfire to go with Krok despite the incredibly derpy headsculpt. Give me my Spinister and Crankcase dangit! A Fulcrum would be nice too but that won't happen. Not gonna lie I bet the 3 Decepticon Targetmasters would make for a bad@ss trio, kinda want all three.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864290)
Posted by Qwan on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:49pm CST
Purty. :x

I'm a little disappointed that Misfire's two pink plastic colors don't line up too well since it makes him look a little cluttered color-wise (though I'm sure it'll be a lot less noticeable in the final), but Slugslinger just looks absolutely delish. Even if they have Triggerhappy's legs, they look different enough that I'm really looking forward to getting these two!

(And yep, looks like Slugslinger has a central cockpit and two fake ones - and it worked out pretty well IMO!)
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864291)
Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:49pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Not gonna lie.. this really bums me out. I have yet to find wave 3 deluxes and now it looks like Triggerhappy is the basis for 4 figures now. Man, going the miles...

Although Triggerhappy is easily the best Deluxe so far in the whole line, and possibly the best figure, using him that many times is just wrong.

So much for getting away from the curse of the Combiner Wars...
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864292)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:50pm CST
Bumblebee21 wrote:que silly springer was right music


"cue" ;) And I was wrong in the end. Triggerhappy being used for both is quite the surprise.

Image

... and why is Misfire so PINK?
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864293)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:51pm CST
from the ozformers fb page

Thanks to Hasbro once gain - the Titanmaster names will be the same as their 80s Nebulons. Misfire has Aimless and Slugslinger has Caliburst. (disclaimer - the names could change at any time before release)

and cardsss
https://www.facebook.com/ozformers/phot ... =3&theater
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864295)
Posted by Qwan on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:54pm CST
Bumblebee21 wrote:from the ozformers fb page

Thanks to Hasbro once gain - the Titanmaster names will be the same as their 80s Nebulons. Misfire has Aimless and Slugslinger has Caliburst. (disclaimer - the names could change at any time before release)

and cardsss
https://www.facebook.com/ozformers/phot ... =3&theater

Interesting that Seaspray and Cosmos' cards show them in vehicle mode, rather than robot like everyone else so far (I think). I wonder if there's a reason for that?
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864296)
Posted by SureShot18 on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:57pm CST
Dr Lockdown wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Not gonna lie.. this really bums me out. I have yet to find wave 3 deluxes and now it looks like Triggerhappy is the basis for 4 figures now. Man, going the miles...

Although Triggerhappy is easily the best Deluxe so far in the whole line, and possibly the best figure, using him that many times is just wrong.

So much for getting away from the curse of the Combiner Wars...

At least three of those uses are for the Decepticon Targetmasters. I'm not trying to defend the mold reuse but it does give it a nice uniformity to them.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864297)
Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 4th, 2017 @ 9:59pm CST
SureShot18 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Not gonna lie.. this really bums me out. I have yet to find wave 3 deluxes and now it looks like Triggerhappy is the basis for 4 figures now. Man, going the miles...

Although Triggerhappy is easily the best Deluxe so far in the whole line, and possibly the best figure, using him that many times is just wrong.

So much for getting away from the curse of the Combiner Wars...

At least three of those uses are for the Decepticon Targetmasters. I'm not trying to defend the mold reuse but it does give it a nice uniformity to them.

Eh. I'm probably going to buy them since they're heavy retools and not straight-up repaints (coughcoughmetalhawk), but I can still be disappointed.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864298)
Posted by Qwan on March 4th, 2017 @ 10:01pm CST
SureShot18 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Not gonna lie.. this really bums me out. I have yet to find wave 3 deluxes and now it looks like Triggerhappy is the basis for 4 figures now. Man, going the miles...

Although Triggerhappy is easily the best Deluxe so far in the whole line, and possibly the best figure, using him that many times is just wrong.

So much for getting away from the curse of the Combiner Wars...

At least three of those uses are for the Decepticon Targetmasters. I'm not trying to defend the mold reuse but it does give it a nice uniformity to them.

And I mean, they're all distinct toolings and each has a very distinctive look and silhouette. Yeah it's not fantastic to see the same legs over and over (even though as Jelze pointed out, very little else seems to be shared with Triggerhappy, especially engineering-wise) - but it's way better than Dead End next to Brake-neck next to Streetwise next to Prowl next to Smokescreen next to Dustup next to G2 Dead End next to G2 Brake-neck (maybe with Club Bluestreak in there too just for extra effect).
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864299)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 4th, 2017 @ 10:08pm CST
Dr Lockdown wrote:
SureShot18 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Not gonna lie.. this really bums me out. I have yet to find wave 3 deluxes and now it looks like Triggerhappy is the basis for 4 figures now. Man, going the miles...

Although Triggerhappy is easily the best Deluxe so far in the whole line, and possibly the best figure, using him that many times is just wrong.

So much for getting away from the curse of the Combiner Wars...

At least three of those uses are for the Decepticon Targetmasters. I'm not trying to defend the mold reuse but it does give it a nice uniformity to them.

Eh. I'm probably going to buy them since they're heavy retools and not straight-up repaints (coughcoughmetalhawk), but I can still be disappointed.

I agree. It does bum me out that they are retools. Here's another thought I had:

Wave 3 deluxes: still haven't seen them. really pissed over this.
Wave 4: no one in sight yet. And people have been finding them for a while now.
Wave 5: Windblade is a retool, Twintwist is a retool, Blitzwing and Octone are slight retools, Overlord is a retool, Ramhorn is a retool for goodness sake. Everyone in wave 5 save Seaspray is a retool or re-release, and if Misfire and Slugslinger are in wave 6, that starts wave 6 off with retools too.

I'm starting to get generations line burned out...
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864300)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on March 4th, 2017 @ 10:09pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:
SureShot18 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Not gonna lie.. this really bums me out. I have yet to find wave 3 deluxes and now it looks like Triggerhappy is the basis for 4 figures now. Man, going the miles...

Although Triggerhappy is easily the best Deluxe so far in the whole line, and possibly the best figure, using him that many times is just wrong.

So much for getting away from the curse of the Combiner Wars...

At least three of those uses are for the Decepticon Targetmasters. I'm not trying to defend the mold reuse but it does give it a nice uniformity to them.

Eh. I'm probably going to buy them since they're heavy retools and not straight-up repaints (coughcoughmetalhawk), but I can still be disappointed.

I agree. It does bum me out that they are retools. Here's another thought I had:

Wave 3 deluxes: still haven't seen them. really pissed over this.
Wave 4: no one in sight yet. And people have been finding them for a while now.
Wave 5: Windblade is a retool, Twintwist is a retool, Blitzwing and Octone are slight retools, Overlord is a retool, Ramhorn is a retool for goodness sake. Everyone in wave 5 save Seaspray is a retool or re-release, and if Misfire and Slugslinger are in wave 6, that starts wave 6 off with retools too.

I'm starting to get generations line burned out...

they are wave 5
makes since since misfire was rumored in wave 5 and weirdwolf was also listed
so weirdwolf was a placeholder name
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864302)
Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 4th, 2017 @ 10:11pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:
SureShot18 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Not gonna lie.. this really bums me out. I have yet to find wave 3 deluxes and now it looks like Triggerhappy is the basis for 4 figures now. Man, going the miles...

Although Triggerhappy is easily the best Deluxe so far in the whole line, and possibly the best figure, using him that many times is just wrong.

So much for getting away from the curse of the Combiner Wars...

At least three of those uses are for the Decepticon Targetmasters. I'm not trying to defend the mold reuse but it does give it a nice uniformity to them.

Eh. I'm probably going to buy them since they're heavy retools and not straight-up repaints (coughcoughmetalhawk), but I can still be disappointed.

I agree. It does bum me out that they are retools. Here's another thought I had:

Wave 3 deluxes: still haven't seen them. really pissed over this.
Wave 4: no one in sight yet. And people have been finding them for a while now.
Wave 5: Windblade is a retool, Twintwist is a retool, Blitzwing and Octone are slight retools, Overlord is a retool, Ramhorn is a retool for goodness sake. Everyone in wave 5 save Seaspray is a retool or re-release, and if Misfire and Slugslinger are in wave 6, that starts wave 6 off with retools too.

I'm starting to get generations line burned out...

Oh my...I hadn't thought of that.

Dear god...this is bad.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864303)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 4th, 2017 @ 10:13pm CST
I don't consider them retools at all, all that's shared are the legs, maybe parts of the arms and of course the Titan Master as per usual (kind of reminds me of RotF Cannon Bumblebee). Everything else is original tooling. >:oP
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864307)
Posted by Deadput on March 4th, 2017 @ 10:29pm CST
The complaints are showing how spoiled we have been become back during those 2009-2013.

At least were getting these characters at all We could be getting the popular 1984 bots again for the 100th time.

Most of these characters were either old bricks or expensive exclusives before.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864308)
Posted by Qwan on March 4th, 2017 @ 10:36pm CST
Yeah, the retooling is really not so bad in this line to be honest. Part-sharing and shared engineering is an ingenious solution to the issue of budget restrictions - I hope we can all at least agree on that - but even compared to other lines the retooling is actually pretty good. I probably don't even need to mention Combiner Wars, even though I just did a few posts up, but just looking at the Deluxe class the original Classics line had a minor/moderate retool and a straight redeco by Wave 3 (Starscream->Ramjet and Bumblebee->Cliffjumper). In its 6-wave run (just like TR!) the subsequent Universe line had 5 Deluxe redecos (one bordering on a straight re-release from Classics) and 1 minor (though aesthetically very different) retool.

For comparison, TR's Deluxe class has so far (i.e. up to those currently revealed) sported 3 new-head redecos, one minor retool (plus another if you count Brainstorm), one reshell/major retool, two instances of shared engineering and two as-yet unknowns (who are probably in the major retool/shared engineering camp). Not really so bad when you look at it that way.

...Hoo boy, that took way too long to compile. I don't know how some of you people do that. I think I need a lie-down.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864309)
Posted by fenrir72 on March 4th, 2017 @ 10:36pm CST
Ye Gods!
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864310)
Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 4th, 2017 @ 10:42pm CST
Qwan wrote:Yeah, the retooling is really not so bad in this line to be honest. Part-sharing and shared engineering is an ingenious solution to the issue of budget restrictions - I hope we can all at least agree on that - but even compared to other lines the retooling is actually pretty good. I probably don't even need to mention Combiner Wars, even though I just did a few posts up, but just looking at the Deluxe class the original Classics line had a minor/moderate retool and a straight redeco by Wave 3 (Starscream->Ramjet and Bumblebee->Cliffjumper). In its 6-wave run (just like TR!) the subsequent Universe line had 5 Deluxe redecos (one bordering on a straight re-release from Classics) and 1 minor (though aesthetically very different) retool.

For comparison, TR's Deluxe class has so far (i.e. up to those currently revealed) sported 3 new-head redecos, one minor retool (plus another if you count Brainstorm), one reshell/major retool, two instances of shared engineering and two as-yet unknowns (who are probably in the major retool/shared engineering camp). Not really so bad when you look at it that way.

...Hoo boy, that took way too long to compile. I don't know how some of you people do that. I think I need a lie-down.

Uh...
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Wave 5: Windblade is a retool, Twintwist is a retool, Blitzwing and Octone are slight retools, Overlord is a retool, Ramhorn is a retool for goodness sake. Everyone in wave 5 save Seaspray is a retool or re-release, and if Misfire and Slugslinger are in wave 6, that starts wave 6 off with retools too.

I'm starting to get generations line burned out...

...yeah...
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864312)
Posted by Qwan on March 4th, 2017 @ 10:57pm CST
Dr Lockdown wrote:
Qwan wrote:stuff

Uh...
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Wave 5: Windblade is a retool, Twintwist is a retool, Blitzwing and Octone are slight retools, Overlord is a retool, Ramhorn is a retool for goodness sake. Everyone in wave 5 save Seaspray is a retool or re-release, and if Misfire and Slugslinger are in wave 6, that starts wave 6 off with retools too.

I'm starting to get generations line burned out...

...yeah...

It really depends on how you look at it. Windblade, Sluslinger and Misfire are all part-sharing/shared engineering (which can be taken to mean that they're practically new toys - you can't really say that Blurr and Chromedome are retools, or anything less than unique figures with some shared parts). Even the minor retools are better than new-head redecos - which to be fair there are a few of in this line already, but that's where comparison to previous lines comes in. If you ignore magnitude of difference then yeah TR is pretty bad with mold re-use, but taking into account how much is changed between each figure puts everything in a much better light, especially compared to previous "Generations-style" lines that were held in high regard.

Maybe I'm being too positive or idealistic, and I'm certainly not saying that your way of looking at things is wrong - but I do think it's a little unnecessarily pessimistic to lump everything into "retool" and claim that TR has nothing new to offer any more.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864316)
Posted by william-james88 on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:04pm CST
Image
Now lets look back at what was said:
SillySpringer wrote:There could be two cockpits but they are just squished together in one piece.

And:
william-james88 wrote:the titan master will end up in a cockpit in the middle of the jet, and instead there would be translucent plastic used for the two fake cockpits in the front.

There, done.


Bumblebee21 wrote:que william-james88 was right music

Fxed that for you ;)

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I agree. It does bum me out that they are retools. Here's another thought I had:

Wave 3 deluxes: still haven't seen them. really pissed over this.
Wave 4: no one in sight yet. And people have been finding them for a while now.
Wave 5: Windblade is a retool, Twintwist is a retool, Blitzwing and Octone are slight retools, Overlord is a retool, Ramhorn is a retool for goodness sake. Everyone in wave 5 save Seaspray is a retool or re-release, and if Misfire and Slugslinger are in wave 6, that starts wave 6 off with retools too.

I'm starting to get generations line burned out...

But we are only bummed because hasbro chose to release these cool molds as the "retools" before getting the real guys. While its true, I dont find it as fair to say that we are only getting retools in this wave when guys like Blitzwing, Overlord and Octone are the ones who those molds were made for.

It sucks that we are let down by the toys we should have gotten in the first place, thats all I am saying.

Qwan wrote: Part-sharing and shared engineering is an ingenious solution to the issue of budget restrictions


Its also a callback ot G1, where Misfire and Sligslinger had shared engineering. The feet and leg sections share a very similar design and fold up the same way.

Image
Transformers G1 1987 Misfire Gallery

Image
Transformers G1 1987 Misfire Gallery

If the G1 toys share a transformation and look, I dont know why its surprising to see it happen again here.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864318)
Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:07pm CST
Looks like Misfire only has one functioning cockpit out of the three. It would have been cool if he could hold two or three Headmasters.

But whatever. Doesn't matter too much.
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Posted by Deadput on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:08pm CST
Qwan wrote:
Maybe I'm being too positive or idealistic, and I'm certainly not saying that your way of looking at things is wrong - but I do think it's a little unnecessarily pessimistic to lump everything into "retool" and claim that TR has nothing new to offer any more.


Nah it's not you just that everyone else is overly cynical.

These complaints are absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary I would understand and agree if they were only straight repaints with no new tooling like Getaway but these two are not their pretty much new while using a base figure and changing a lot of the mold.

Just like Broadside from Alpha Trion or Optimus and Takara Ginrai from this line or Dead End to Streetwise from Combiner Wars.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864320)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:11pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I agree. It does bum me out that they are retools. Here's another thought I had:

Wave 3 deluxes: still haven't seen them. really pissed over this.
Wave 4: no one in sight yet. And people have been finding them for a while now.
Wave 5: Windblade is a retool, Twintwist is a retool, Blitzwing and Octone are slight retools, Overlord is a retool, Ramhorn is a retool for goodness sake. Everyone in wave 5 save Seaspray is a retool or re-release, and if Misfire and Slugslinger are in wave 6, that starts wave 6 off with retools too.

I'm starting to get generations line burned out...

But we are only bummed because hasbro chose to release these cool molds as the "retools" before getting the real guys. While its true, I dont find it as fair to say that we are only getting retools in this wave when guys like Blitzwing, Overlord and Octone are the ones who those molds were made for.

It sucks that we are let down by the toys we should have gotten in the first place, thats all I am saying.

I do agree with you.

Another thing is that in a couple of cases the "pretool" is better. I like Sky Shadow significantly more than Overlord, I have no interest in Blitzwing (even if Megatron is a letdown) and Optimus looks better in my opinion than Octone.

I'm just not liking at least 2 uses per most molds, or more. The boxsets still sting with what could have been done to some of them had an extra mile been taken, and then these guys show up. I'm bummed by lack of creativity.

I don't know, I'm tiring of the line. Looking forward to the movie interlude
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:15pm CST
Deadput wrote:
Qwan wrote:
Maybe I'm being too positive or idealistic, and I'm certainly not saying that your way of looking at things is wrong - but I do think it's a little unnecessarily pessimistic to lump everything into "retool" and claim that TR has nothing new to offer any more.


Nah it's not you just that everyone else is overly cynical.

These complaints are absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary I would understand and agree if they were only straight repaints with no new tooling like Getaway but these two are not their pretty much new while using a base figure and changing a lot of the mold.

Just like Broadside from Alpha Trion or Optimus and Takara Ginrai from this line or Dead End to Streetwise from Combiner Wars.

I whole heartedly disagree. Lack of creativity.

I also think Sureshot nailed it in another thread he and I were talking in about this: the current "G1 figure with articulation" move is also tiring. There isn't as great of creativity as before. The titan master class has proven to be the more interesting class with its reveals as of late.

Also, Broadside is shite compared to Alpha Trion seeing as how Broadside's aircraft mode is utterly ridiculous, Ginrai was cool but the Dead End/Streetwise was really neutered after both molds got lots of repaints. and the same is happening with parts here.

I am good with Domey and Blurr sharing thighs, but when it comes down to 4 figures sharing over half their bodies, then it feels kinda suckish
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Posted by william-james88 on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:15pm CST
Dr Lockdown wrote:Looks like Misfire only has one functioning cockpit out of the three.

But he only has 1 cockpit, where do you see the other two?
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Posted by ebo716 on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:17pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:Looks like Misfire only has one functioning cockpit out of the three.

But he only has 1 cockpit, where do you see the other two?

I think he meant to say slugslinger and not misfire
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864325)
Posted by SureShot18 on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:18pm CST
Kinda random but I have no idea why Misfire has a pink helmet. It's not accurate to anything he's been in. I'm still getting him and putting some black/dark gray paint on the helmet but it's just odd.
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Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:18pm CST
Deadput wrote:
Qwan wrote:
Maybe I'm being too positive or idealistic, and I'm certainly not saying that your way of looking at things is wrong - but I do think it's a little unnecessarily pessimistic to lump everything into "retool" and claim that TR has nothing new to offer any more.


Nah it's not you just that everyone else is overly cynical.

These complaints are absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary I would understand and agree if they were only straight repaints with no new tooling like Getaway but these two are not their pretty much new while using a base figure and changing a lot of the mold.

Just like Broadside from Alpha Trion or Optimus and Takara Ginrai from this line or Dead End to Streetwise from Combiner Wars.

I'm not completely cynical. Retools are better than repaints and I'm especially excited for Windblade (I have this weird rule to buy all her toys in some form) but it's still slightly annoying.
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Posted by william-james88 on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:19pm CST
Deadput wrote:These complaints are absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary I would understand and agree if they were only straight repaints with no new tooling like Getaway but these two are not their pretty much new while using a base figure and changing a lot of the mold.

I am sure we wouldnt be having this discussion of seeing these same comments if these were revealed months apart. The only reason it looks tiring is because they are both revealed at the same time right next to eachother, so its hard not to look at them and see the similarities. If one was instead released in wave 1 (instead of Blurr for instince, or Scourge) I dont think we would hae the same complaints.
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Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:19pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:Looks like Misfire only has one functioning cockpit out of the three.

But he only has 1 cockpit, where do you see the other two?

Misfire's the blue one right? I don't know the character.
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Posted by william-james88 on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:22pm CST
Dr Lockdown wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:Looks like Misfire only has one functioning cockpit out of the three.

But he only has 1 cockpit, where do you see the other two?

Misfire's the blue one right? I don't know the character.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=transformers+misfire
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Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:25pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:Looks like Misfire only has one functioning cockpit out of the three.

But he only has 1 cockpit, where do you see the other two?

Misfire's the blue one right? I don't know the character.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=transformers+misfire

Oh, well then the other guy.

Bit hard to google when I'm on multiple websites and multiple threads. Also that was a bit condescending.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864332)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:29pm CST
Maybe Hasbro used some of the same pink plastic in the sprue that was used for the pink plastic of Misfire's body to create his headsculpt, as a cost-saving measure to keep within their allotted budget for these figures.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864333)
Posted by Counterpunch on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:29pm CST
Misfire's head is the wrong color.

I hate that. I hate seeing that and thinking, "Well, I'm sure Takara will do it right."
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864334)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 4th, 2017 @ 11:34pm CST
Counterpunch wrote:Misfire's head is the wrong color.

I hate that. I hate seeing that and thinking, "Well, I'm sure Takara will do it right."


Eventually next year :roll:
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864337)
Posted by Qwan on March 5th, 2017 @ 12:07am CST
When suddenly, Misfire was almost the right colors!
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Yeah, it's a pretty hack job (I rushed it rather a bit), I took some liberties with the gun because I felt it needed some more variety there, and it doesn't fix the derpy face... but the general idea is there! I hope it at least helps to bring out some more of the figure's potential - or makes people more disappointed that it wasn't like that in the first place. One or the other.

(Maybe later I'll go back and "fix" that two-toned pink that's bothering me so much).
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864338)
Posted by Zeedust on March 5th, 2017 @ 12:07am CST
Albatross250 wrote:Still, no Autobot Targetmasters,

Unless you count Blurr, Hot Rod, and Kup. :lol:

Dr Lockdown wrote:So much for getting away from the curse of the Combiner Wars...


In fairness to Combiner Wars...

A: I find it's easier to swallow shared molds if they at least become parts of different wholes (i.e. Alpha Bravo is the same as Blades, but Superion and Defensor are still different). Still wouldn't be my first choice, but I can live with it, particularly since they can Scramble. TR figures are wholes unto themselves with their other level being smaller and removable rather than larger and buildable, so in some ways the sameness stands out more even if there's less of it.

B: As much as they may have reused molds for CW, I don't think they ever used the same one twice in the same wave. (Unless you count the box sets, but I'd argue that's not quite the same.)


Qwan wrote:Yeah it's not fantastic to see the same legs over and over (even though as Jelze pointed out, very little else seems to be shared with Triggerhappy, especially engineering-wise) - but it's way better than Dead End next to Brake-neck next to Streetwise next to Prowl next to Smokescreen next to Dustup next to G2 Dead End next to G2 Brake-neck (maybe with Club Bluestreak in there too just for extra effect).


You forgot Unit-3 from Botcon '16. :-D

...Hey, I said I could live with it. I'm not denying it got out of hand at times. Though I don't think any of the other CW molds got overused as bad as this one did. Or any TF molds, for that matter, save for some versions of the Seekers.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864339)
Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 5th, 2017 @ 12:46am CST
Zeedust wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:So much for getting away from the curse of the Combiner Wars...


In fairness to Combiner Wars...

A: I find it's easier to swallow shared molds if they at least become parts of different wholes (i.e. Alpha Bravo is the same as Blades, but Superion and Defensor are still different). Still wouldn't be my first choice, but I can live with it, particularly since they can Scramble. TR figures are wholes unto themselves with their other level being smaller and removable rather than larger and buildable, so in some ways the sameness stands out more even if there's less of it.

B: As much as they may have reused molds for CW, I don't think they ever used the same one twice in the same wave. (Unless you count the box sets, but I'd argue that's not quite the same.)

Fair enough, plus they make great custom fodder. One look at Shapeways and you see so many upgrades.

Although for B they did use the same figures within a few box sets. G2 Menasor and Superion doubled up, Liokaiser had two Brawls and Unite Warriors had doubles for Superion, Menasor and Lynxmaster. Not a dealbreaker, but it is a flaw.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864340)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2017 @ 12:47am CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I whole heartedly disagree. Lack of creativity.

I also think Sureshot nailed it in another thread he and I were talking in about this: the current "G1 figure with articulation" move is also tiring. There isn't as great of creativity as before. The titan master class has proven to be the more interesting class with its reveals as of late.

Also, Broadside is shite compared to Alpha Trion seeing as how Broadside's aircraft mode is utterly ridiculous, Ginrai was cool but the Dead End/Streetwise was really neutered after both molds got lots of repaints. and the same is happening with parts here.

I am good with Domey and Blurr sharing thighs, but when it comes down to 4 figures sharing over half their bodies, then it feels kinda suckish


Lack of creativity is what the fans want apparently this whole damn G1 Collector focused line exists because of a large group of fans I mean come on how else is it supposed to be done you want creativity and something different then go collect the Rid and the upcoming movie lines since that's what it's supposed to be for.

Owning Broadside myself I can say he is pretty darn good actually in Bot and Boat modes the jet is different but you can justify it as a bomber vehicle or change the legs to make a different looking jet.

Not talking about the repaints for Dead End and Streetwise just these two and if that's all that existed no one would be giving a darn about it we only got worn out once it started getting into the second half of the line at least from what I saw.

Are you really talking about the part sharing from these three cons look at them!

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The jet modes are so vastly different they don't even look like their the same mold in fact the only thing the same is the legs which in of itself are pretty darn unique legs with the fins and the hands like what is the bloody problem!

When was the last time we had retail versions of G1 Slugsliner, Triggerhappy and Misfire or heck where were the previous versions of G1 Sentinel Prime, Doublecross, the headmasters as headmasters, a non earth Galvatron, Sharkticons, good molds of Octance and Blitzwing?

We should be giving Hasbro our gratitude for how generous they have been when they could just be putting more effort into modern series like Rid and making them better instead of juggling all these different lines and having resources split into different projects!

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Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864341)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2017 @ 12:59am CST
Dr Lockdown wrote:Oh, well then the other guy.

Bit hard to google when I'm on multiple websites and multiple threads. Also that was a bit condescending.


To be fair you could of just googled "Transformers Misfire" instead of asking people questions that really could be answered for you in 5 seconds on your own effort.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864344)
Posted by Manterax Prime on March 5th, 2017 @ 1:16am CST
Hey Slugslinger!
We haven't seen you since Energon.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864348)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2017 @ 1:21am CST
Manterax Prime wrote:Hey Slugslinger!
We haven't seen you since Energon.


And even then the Energon version looks pretty different in bot mode especially with drastically different colors and a much more interesting but still different head sculpt.

So technically we haven't seen him proper since G1.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864349)
Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 5th, 2017 @ 1:37am CST
Deadput wrote:
Dr Lockdown wrote:Oh, well then the other guy.

Bit hard to google when I'm on multiple websites and multiple threads. Also that was a bit condescending.


To be fair you could of just googled "Transformers Misfire" instead of asking people questions that really could be answered for you in 5 seconds on your own effort.

Now where's the fun in that?

Also I genuinely thought Misfire was the one with three cockpits.
Re: Titans Return Misfire and Slugslinger Revealed (1864352)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2017 @ 1:45am CST
Dr Lockdown wrote:
Now where's the fun in that?

Also I genuinely thought Misfire was the one with three cockpits.


I guess your right I see your point but if it was me I would of googled it up anyways what harm is it to refresh your knowledge to make sure your correct every once in awhile.

It's why I know so much about the production of the Bay movies (and finding people on the internet to make them tell me but we don't talk about that here)

Anyways it could always be worse we could of got these instead. (whipped these up in two minutes)

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