The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer
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Don't mind us, we're riding the train of the hype that the Transformers: The Last Knight teaser trailer set off. Seibertronians Seibertron and ScottyP bring us a small round-up of tidbits concerning the song used in the trailer: a cover of "Do You Realise?" by The Flaming Lips.
The cover used in the trailer is by Ursine Vulpine, and slows it down considerably, while adding elements of previous tracks used for the Michael Bay projects - as worked on by Steve Aoki and Steve Jablonsky, with bands Imagine Dragons and Linkin Park. We know that the latter composer is part of the movie once more, and none of the others are (for now), so he may have had his hands somewhere around the cover.
What is particularly interesting is the Transformers-related connection of the original song: IDW writer of More Than Meets the Eye James Roberts chooses a couple of songs for each new issue in the series, as a "reading soundtrack"; the original 'Do You Realise?' was chosen for More Than Meets The Eye issue 8: 'Scavengers Part 2 - Who's Afraid of the DJD?'.
This isn't news, of course, but an interesting way to revisit the old and the new, and throw another rumour log on the fire of the speculation engines. What do you make of it? Intrigued by the song, the connection, the cover, the lyrics? Join us in the Energon Pub for the discussion!
The cover used in the trailer is by Ursine Vulpine, and slows it down considerably, while adding elements of previous tracks used for the Michael Bay projects - as worked on by Steve Aoki and Steve Jablonsky, with bands Imagine Dragons and Linkin Park. We know that the latter composer is part of the movie once more, and none of the others are (for now), so he may have had his hands somewhere around the cover.
What is particularly interesting is the Transformers-related connection of the original song: IDW writer of More Than Meets the Eye James Roberts chooses a couple of songs for each new issue in the series, as a "reading soundtrack"; the original 'Do You Realise?' was chosen for More Than Meets The Eye issue 8: 'Scavengers Part 2 - Who's Afraid of the DJD?'.
This isn't news, of course, but an interesting way to revisit the old and the new, and throw another rumour log on the fire of the speculation engines. What do you make of it? Intrigued by the song, the connection, the cover, the lyrics? Join us in the Energon Pub for the discussion!
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Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845670)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:09am CST
Posted by Sigma Magnus on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:09am CST
Dangit, it was uploaded the moment I went to bed...anyway, this looks interesting. I'll probably see it in theaters as always, it's almost tradition by now...
...huh. I'll actually be here to give and see first reactions to this. Either way, I hope it ends up good.
...huh. I'll actually be here to give and see first reactions to this. Either way, I hope it ends up good.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845671)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:12am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:12am CST
You guys seriously think Prime is going to kill Bee? Really? Especially with Bee getting his own movie in 2018?
That planet in pieces does look like Cybertron's remains. I would like to see Unicron, but only if it's done right.
If that is indeed Megatron in the desert, he looks bad ass. Maybe we will finally get a character worthy of the name.
I'm glad Anthony Hopkins plays an actual person and not just voices a TF, even though that would be cool as well.
To me the biggest thing in the trailer was Hopkins saying "100 billion trillion planets in the universe. Why do you think they keep coming here?" In the 1st film it was to chase the Allspark, in DoTM it was to revitalize Cybertron. What will it be this time?
That planet in pieces does look like Cybertron's remains. I would like to see Unicron, but only if it's done right.
If that is indeed Megatron in the desert, he looks bad ass. Maybe we will finally get a character worthy of the name.
I'm glad Anthony Hopkins plays an actual person and not just voices a TF, even though that would be cool as well.
To me the biggest thing in the trailer was Hopkins saying "100 billion trillion planets in the universe. Why do you think they keep coming here?" In the 1st film it was to chase the Allspark, in DoTM it was to revitalize Cybertron. What will it be this time?
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845672)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:16am CST
I am pretty sure there will be more trailers in the future. You know how the final Transformers movie trailers are, we just have to be patient.
By the way, it is a nice trailer.
I just only wonder what that Unicron-like ball of metal doing over the moon.
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:16am CST
destrakon wrote:it wouldve been cool if they showed a little more action
I am pretty sure there will be more trailers in the future. You know how the final Transformers movie trailers are, we just have to be patient.
By the way, it is a nice trailer.
I just only wonder what that Unicron-like ball of metal doing over the moon.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845674)
Posted by ScottyP on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:22am CST
And I think Noideaforaname's idea that the planet is Gobotron is the best of all possible outcomes for the planet thingie.
Posted by ScottyP on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:22am CST
That and they're probably still making a bunch of the CG of the Transformers themselves. Even the shots in this trailer using them probably weren't "final".OptimalOptimus2 wrote:destrakon wrote:it wouldve been cool if they showed a little more action
I am pretty sure there will be more trailers in the future. You know how the final Transformers movie trailers are, we just have to be patient.
By the way, it is a nice trailer.
And I think Noideaforaname's idea that the planet is Gobotron is the best of all possible outcomes for the planet thingie.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845679)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:48am CST
What if that's the VW van Decepticon we've seen around filming?
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:48am CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Can we please talk about who or what this could be?
What if that's the VW van Decepticon we've seen around filming?
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845681)
Posted by shauyaun on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:57am CST
MEGABEE PRIME!
Posted by shauyaun on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:57am CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Can we please talk about who or what this could be?
What if that's the VW van Decepticon we've seen around filming?
MEGABEE PRIME!
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845682)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on December 6th, 2016 @ 7:00am CST
Posted by Cyber Bishop on December 6th, 2016 @ 7:00am CST
As a transfan for well over 30 years I am still not feeling it after this first trailer.. Maybe the next one will do it for me.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845684)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 6th, 2016 @ 7:12am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 6th, 2016 @ 7:12am CST
We should still get a Super Bowl spot in a couple of months, as well as 1 more trailer after that, probably in March in front of Logan or in April or May in front of Fast 8. In the meantime, since it's been a 4-5 pages...Cyber Bishop wrote:As a transfan for well over 30 years I am still not feeling it after this first trailer.. Maybe the next one will do it for me.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845685)
Posted by MemphisR56 on December 6th, 2016 @ 7:18am CST
Posted by MemphisR56 on December 6th, 2016 @ 7:18am CST
I actually tweeted J-Ro about the musical connection to ask him if he had a hand in it, he quote retweeted me "I.... did not".
Might be Roberts 'turning the screws' again, but it seems like it's either a total coincidence, or someone made Steve Jablonski aware of the MTMTE soundtrack playlist.
I got tingles as soon as I heard the song kick in. It's a really neat nod to more niche sections of the fandom.
Might be Roberts 'turning the screws' again, but it seems like it's either a total coincidence, or someone made Steve Jablonski aware of the MTMTE soundtrack playlist.
I got tingles as soon as I heard the song kick in. It's a really neat nod to more niche sections of the fandom.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845688)
Posted by That_Guy on December 6th, 2016 @ 8:01am CST
Posted by That_Guy on December 6th, 2016 @ 8:01am CST
After knowing of the Bumblebee movie after this. A part of me thinks after the assault by Prime, BB gets his voice back.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845692)
Posted by noctorro on December 6th, 2016 @ 8:22am CST
Posted by noctorro on December 6th, 2016 @ 8:22am CST
Woooooooooooooh!!!!! 
Love the trailer!
Absolutely love it, you have Metal Gear Solid like mechs (more realistic what humans would create). The premise that it's humans against Transformers. Maybe we'll get some Autobot-Decepticon cooperation.
Hope that new robot (who looks kinda cute) will be interesting.
Sir Anthony Hopkins, looks and sounds like a great adition to this film.
Prime evil, awesome! Cybertron close to earth again, awesome.
Some dragon/dinosaur robot, awesome.
Sorry guys, all I see is awesomeness.
And Steve Jablonsky will be back for the soundtrack I've read. Going to watch this trailer again when I get home from work on my big screen. So much wow. Going to see it 3 times in cinema's atleast.
Do you guys think there will be a game adaptation?
Rise of the Dark Spark was kind of a weak attempt, non transforming generic low AI enemies and very few new Transformer models (it was practically Fall of Cybertron stripped down).
And if they do keep the High Moon engine, I hope they restore Escalation to what it was in War for Cybertron.
Overall thoughts, really happy to see this. Good hopes for the movie.
(continuing)
What the Transformers movies never fail at is design and action scenes.
That was my main dissapointment of X-Men Apocalypse, my favorite Marvel Villain ever only fought 1 scene. 1 scene only! And his size increase was a dream/head sequence. He was suppose to do that in the final fight and have a mid-movie fight to show of that he's stronger than the X-Men.
(end of continuation and bad grammar)
Love the trailer!
Absolutely love it, you have Metal Gear Solid like mechs (more realistic what humans would create). The premise that it's humans against Transformers. Maybe we'll get some Autobot-Decepticon cooperation.
Hope that new robot (who looks kinda cute) will be interesting.
Sir Anthony Hopkins, looks and sounds like a great adition to this film.
Prime evil, awesome! Cybertron close to earth again, awesome.
Some dragon/dinosaur robot, awesome.
Sorry guys, all I see is awesomeness.
And Steve Jablonsky will be back for the soundtrack I've read. Going to watch this trailer again when I get home from work on my big screen. So much wow. Going to see it 3 times in cinema's atleast.
Do you guys think there will be a game adaptation?
Rise of the Dark Spark was kind of a weak attempt, non transforming generic low AI enemies and very few new Transformer models (it was practically Fall of Cybertron stripped down).
And if they do keep the High Moon engine, I hope they restore Escalation to what it was in War for Cybertron.
Overall thoughts, really happy to see this. Good hopes for the movie.
(continuing)
What the Transformers movies never fail at is design and action scenes.
That was my main dissapointment of X-Men Apocalypse, my favorite Marvel Villain ever only fought 1 scene. 1 scene only! And his size increase was a dream/head sequence. He was suppose to do that in the final fight and have a mid-movie fight to show of that he's stronger than the X-Men.
(end of continuation and bad grammar)
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845694)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 6th, 2016 @ 8:42am CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 6th, 2016 @ 8:42am CST
Looks interesting definitely getting vibes that they're trying to actually flesh out a story and lore in this one. Definitely seems to draw from 'Dark Awakening', I'm definitely interested, gonna wait to hear some reviews of it first.
...Still hyped for a Megatron figure
...Still hyped for a Megatron figure
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845695)
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 8:45am CST
Aparently, that Decepticon can be seen in this sht instead:
And that face is not menacing enough to be a decepticon.
Also, to answer a question asked before, the guy in the desert meeting Megatron is Lennox.
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 8:45am CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Can we please talk about who or what this could be?
What if that's the VW van Decepticon we've seen around filming?
Aparently, that Decepticon can be seen in this sht instead:
And that face is not menacing enough to be a decepticon.
Also, to answer a question asked before, the guy in the desert meeting Megatron is Lennox.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845699)
Posted by AlbimusPrime on December 6th, 2016 @ 9:08am CST
Posted by AlbimusPrime on December 6th, 2016 @ 9:08am CST
I'm sure that this is not Cybertron, but it is Unicron.
In DOTM, Cybertron was a lot bigger than Earth, that thing is just a little bit bigger than the Moon...
P.S. This trailer looks AWESOME! 
In DOTM, Cybertron was a lot bigger than Earth, that thing is just a little bit bigger than the Moon...
P.S. This trailer looks AWESOME!
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845700)
Posted by MrBlack on December 6th, 2016 @ 9:09am CST
If that one scene in the trailer of the spike rising out of the desert is any indication, they may be going the Transformers Prime route and revealing that the Earth is really Unicron.
I guess that would go some way towards explaining humanity's antagonism towards Cybertronians. It's getting to be a tired trope in this franchise.
Posted by MrBlack on December 6th, 2016 @ 9:09am CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:You guys seriously think Prime is going to kill Bee? Really? Especially with Bee getting his own movie in 2018?
That planet in pieces does look like Cybertron's remains. I would like to see Unicron, but only if it's done right.
If that is indeed Megatron in the desert, he looks bad ass. Maybe we will finally get a character worthy of the name.
I'm glad Anthony Hopkins plays an actual person and not just voices a TF, even though that would be cool as well.
To me the biggest thing in the trailer was Hopkins saying "100 billion trillion planets in the universe. Why do you think they keep coming here?" In the 1st film it was to chase the Allspark, in DoTM it was to revitalize Cybertron. What will it be this time?
If that one scene in the trailer of the spike rising out of the desert is any indication, they may be going the Transformers Prime route and revealing that the Earth is really Unicron.
I guess that would go some way towards explaining humanity's antagonism towards Cybertronians. It's getting to be a tired trope in this franchise.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845701)
Posted by MrBlack on December 6th, 2016 @ 9:12am CST
Posted by MrBlack on December 6th, 2016 @ 9:12am CST
So, if Optimus dies, are we going to see Bumblebee getting the Matrix?
I can't see Michael Bay having Optimus hand over leadership to a Hot Rod with a French accent.
I can't see Michael Bay having Optimus hand over leadership to a Hot Rod with a French accent.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845702)
Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2016 @ 9:26am CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2016 @ 9:26am CST
Watched the trailer last night. Now I know this is going to sound odd at first but, there was not really much for me to get excited about, still I will see and support the film. I am not a *hater* on Bay or his interpretation of the TF's, but nor do I think the films are the greatest thing ever. To me, they are just kind of *there* after the second one. 3-Headed Dragon looks cool, Anthony Hopkins always gives a good performance, nice to hear his voice...but not much else.
I did think it seemed kind of silly that TF's could travel long distances (presumably without limit) in space, in previous films. But Prime, got frozen in space around Jupiter? (ok probably not Jupiter, but you know what I mean). It's like if we were to start out on a road trip from San Francisco to NYC, on one tank of gas, and think...yeah I'm good.
. Hopefully there will be an explanation.
Also my son (he's 10) of course was all panicked "Why is Optimus attacking Bumblebee!!!" After the trailer ended I calmly told him to think about all the times in various shows Optimus has either been replicated (various Nemesis Primes), or controlled by others. Trust me when I say it will all sort itself out.
And yes that planet appears to be a broken Cybertron (call back from DotM), though the horn in the desert...that has me asking questions.
Still though, I believe the law of diminishing returns is effecting my relationship with this franchise. The first film I saw 4 times in the theater, the second one- twice, the 3rd and 4th ones I took the day off work to watch an early matinee and only saw once in theater. I have the first 3 films on DVD, and the 4th on Blu-Ray all bought at discount prices. It's sad because each film bay seems to keep up the ante with budget, effects, and run time, but the "ooh- ahhh" factor is less each time. Each of the first 4 films there was at least one particular character I looked forward to seeing onscreen, in this thus far there aren't any. Hopefully the next trailer that comes out in a few months will offer something to be marginally excited about.
I did think it seemed kind of silly that TF's could travel long distances (presumably without limit) in space, in previous films. But Prime, got frozen in space around Jupiter? (ok probably not Jupiter, but you know what I mean). It's like if we were to start out on a road trip from San Francisco to NYC, on one tank of gas, and think...yeah I'm good.
. Hopefully there will be an explanation.Also my son (he's 10) of course was all panicked "Why is Optimus attacking Bumblebee!!!" After the trailer ended I calmly told him to think about all the times in various shows Optimus has either been replicated (various Nemesis Primes), or controlled by others. Trust me when I say it will all sort itself out.
And yes that planet appears to be a broken Cybertron (call back from DotM), though the horn in the desert...that has me asking questions.
Still though, I believe the law of diminishing returns is effecting my relationship with this franchise. The first film I saw 4 times in the theater, the second one- twice, the 3rd and 4th ones I took the day off work to watch an early matinee and only saw once in theater. I have the first 3 films on DVD, and the 4th on Blu-Ray all bought at discount prices. It's sad because each film bay seems to keep up the ante with budget, effects, and run time, but the "ooh- ahhh" factor is less each time. Each of the first 4 films there was at least one particular character I looked forward to seeing onscreen, in this thus far there aren't any. Hopefully the next trailer that comes out in a few months will offer something to be marginally excited about.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845715)
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:23am CST
You and me buddy! And i dont know if that Dragon will be a toy or not, but I hope it is. And hey, why not hope for both: that the Dragon gets a toy and that it is megatron
Also I thought the horn in the desert was a close up on the matrix which looks really similar.
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:23am CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:...Still hyped for a Megatron figure
You and me buddy! And i dont know if that Dragon will be a toy or not, but I hope it is. And hey, why not hope for both: that the Dragon gets a toy and that it is megatron
Also I thought the horn in the desert was a close up on the matrix which looks really similar.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845716)
Posted by LevelRaze on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:25am CST
Posted by LevelRaze on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:25am CST
anyone else see what appears to be Hound on the right with his arm missing? Cause I look at his feet and his body shape and they kinda resemble his.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845718)
Posted by shauyaun on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:33am CST
He's forearm yeah seems so
Posted by shauyaun on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:33am CST
LevelRaze1 wrote:anyone else see what appears to be Hound on the right with his arm missing? Cause I look at his feet and his body shape and they kinda resemble his.
He's forearm yeah seems so
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845719)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:34am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:34am CST
But it's a three-headed dragon, not two.Black Hat wrote:Holy crap, this looks amazing. Consider me on board.
Also, am I the only one getting Gigatron vibes from that two-headed dragon Transformer? I'm hoping so, if only to get the original RID Megatron toy reissued but retooled with movieverse techno-greebles.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845720)
Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:38am CST
I know relative size is difficult without other objects in frame, but this horn appears to be rather huge. Also last we saw, Prime still had the matrix within himself after he offered it to Sentinel in DotM, and he refused it. Odd it wasn't referenced in AoE at all.
Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:38am CST
william-james88 wrote:Also I thought the horn in the desert was a close up on the matrix which looks really similar.
I know relative size is difficult without other objects in frame, but this horn appears to be rather huge. Also last we saw, Prime still had the matrix within himself after he offered it to Sentinel in DotM, and he refused it. Odd it wasn't referenced in AoE at all.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845721)
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:38am CST
Wait a sec...
Is that the same moster found on this poster then? And does that mean that the dragon is during modern times and not king arthur times?
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:38am CST
Sabrblade wrote:But it's a three-headed dragon, not two.Black Hat wrote:Holy crap, this looks amazing. Consider me on board.
Also, am I the only one getting Gigatron vibes from that two-headed dragon Transformer? I'm hoping so, if only to get the original RID Megatron toy reissued but retooled with movieverse techno-greebles.
Wait a sec...
Is that the same moster found on this poster then? And does that mean that the dragon is during modern times and not king arthur times?
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845722)
Posted by partholon on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:44am CST
he's like natchoes with melted cheese.
you KNOW its crap, and bad for you, and inevitablhy you'll feels sick afterwards....
...but ya just cant stay the fup away.
my only hope is there seems to be some genuine talant on the writing front so theres a SLIM chance it wont be a total bay wankfest.
ill say one thing for him, he can do a trailer.
Posted by partholon on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:44am CST
ausbot wrote:DAMN you Bay, every time you get me excited, this time please follow through!
he's like natchoes with melted cheese.
you KNOW its crap, and bad for you, and inevitablhy you'll feels sick afterwards....
...but ya just cant stay the fup away.
my only hope is there seems to be some genuine talant on the writing front so theres a SLIM chance it wont be a total bay wankfest.
ill say one thing for him, he can do a trailer.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845725)
Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:56am CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:56am CST
Sabrblade wrote:But it's a three-headed dragon
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845726)
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:56am CST
Is there though?
Akiva Goldsman wrote Batman and Robin. Is that movie better than the worst stuff Ehran Krueger wrote?
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 10:56am CST
partholon wrote:
my only hope is there seems to be some genuine talant on the writing front so theres a SLIM chance it wont be a total bay wankfest.
Is there though?
Akiva Goldsman wrote Batman and Robin. Is that movie better than the worst stuff Ehran Krueger wrote?
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845727)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2016 @ 11:00am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2016 @ 11:00am CST
He also wrote A Beautiful Mind, that widely-acclaimed Russell Crowe psychological movie.william-james88 wrote:partholon wrote:
my only hope is there seems to be some genuine talant on the writing front so theres a SLIM chance it wont be a total bay wankfest.
Is there though?
Akiva Goldsman wrote Batman and Robin. Is that movie better than the worst stuff Ehran Krueger wrote?
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845730)
Posted by MrBlack on December 6th, 2016 @ 11:07am CST
In all fairness, Akiva Goldsman is only responsible for the story and not the screenplay this time around. The folks who worked on the screenplay have some actual talent.
Not that I expect this to be an actual GOOD film, but maybe it will be better than Age of Extinction (which I couldn't finish).
Posted by MrBlack on December 6th, 2016 @ 11:07am CST
william-james88 wrote:partholon wrote:
my only hope is there seems to be some genuine talant on the writing front so theres a SLIM chance it wont be a total bay wankfest.
Is there though?
Akiva Goldsman wrote Batman and Robin. Is that movie better than the worst stuff Ehran Krueger wrote?
In all fairness, Akiva Goldsman is only responsible for the story and not the screenplay this time around. The folks who worked on the screenplay have some actual talent.
Not that I expect this to be an actual GOOD film, but maybe it will be better than Age of Extinction (which I couldn't finish).
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845731)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on December 6th, 2016 @ 11:09am CST
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on December 6th, 2016 @ 11:09am CST
I'm thinking that the spike structure in the desert is Lockdown's ship. Rember the giant spike arm things?
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845732)
Posted by partholon on December 6th, 2016 @ 11:24am CST
yer man that wrote "black hawk down"s screen adaptation is there too.
between him and the lad that wrote ironman im hoping for something that at LEAST resembles plot and heart.
Posted by partholon on December 6th, 2016 @ 11:24am CST
william-james88 wrote:partholon wrote:
my only hope is there seems to be some genuine talant on the writing front so theres a SLIM chance it wont be a total bay wankfest.
Is there though?
Akiva Goldsman wrote Batman and Robin. Is that movie better than the worst stuff Ehran Krueger wrote?
yer man that wrote "black hawk down"s screen adaptation is there too.
between him and the lad that wrote ironman im hoping for something that at LEAST resembles plot and heart.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845733)
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 11:25am CST
And Ehren Krueger wrote Arlington Road. We are not comparing how good these movies can be,since we have seen how competent screen writers can still totally fuck up, which was the case with Ehren. And its not like Akiva has a good track record of late, no one is calling the Da Vinci code a masterpiece.
But anyways, as was written, he only came up with the story, there was a whole writers room. But I wonder, was there real good talent in that group? We know Kirkman was only there for like 1 day or 2, I doubt hat had a significant impact on anything.
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 11:25am CST
Sabrblade wrote:He also wrote A Beautiful Mind, that widely-acclaimed Russell Crowe psychological movie.william-james88 wrote:partholon wrote:
my only hope is there seems to be some genuine talant on the writing front so theres a SLIM chance it wont be a total bay wankfest.
Is there though?
Akiva Goldsman wrote Batman and Robin. Is that movie better than the worst stuff Ehran Krueger wrote?
And Ehren Krueger wrote Arlington Road. We are not comparing how good these movies can be,since we have seen how competent screen writers can still totally fuck up, which was the case with Ehren. And its not like Akiva has a good track record of late, no one is calling the Da Vinci code a masterpiece.
But anyways, as was written, he only came up with the story, there was a whole writers room. But I wonder, was there real good talent in that group? We know Kirkman was only there for like 1 day or 2, I doubt hat had a significant impact on anything.
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Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2016 @ 11:32am CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2016 @ 11:32am CST
Not sure about the whole TFCU that's being developed, but Matt Holloway & Art Marcum (Punisher: War Zone, Iron Man, TMNT 2014), and Ken Nolan (Black Hawk Down) are credited specifically for the writing of TLK.
Some good films, and not so good one. It's a mixed bag, and anybody's guess at this point.
Some good films, and not so good one. It's a mixed bag, and anybody's guess at this point.
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Posted by partholon on December 6th, 2016 @ 12:10pm CST
Posted by partholon on December 6th, 2016 @ 12:10pm CST
meant to say.
getting a verity vibe off the young one.
getting a verity vibe off the young one.
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845739)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 6th, 2016 @ 12:29pm CST
Really now? What are you up to Lennox?
Yep, that looks like him alright! Nice catch!
Still really love that scene of Barricade being blasted too. That was a sweet shot
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 6th, 2016 @ 12:29pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Also, to answer a question asked before, the guy in the desert meeting Megatron is Lennox.
Really now? What are you up to Lennox?
LevelRaze1 wrote:anyone else see what appears to be Hound on the right with his arm missing? Cause I look at his feet and his body shape and they kinda resemble his.
Yep, that looks like him alright! Nice catch!
Still really love that scene of Barricade being blasted too. That was a sweet shot
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Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2016 @ 12:34pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2016 @ 12:34pm CST
Well, we know that Cade is fully sided with the Autobots, and Lennox is working on the side that stands against Cade, and, well, the guy in the desert has short hair like Josh Duhamel instead of longer hair like Mark Wahlberg.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Also, to answer a question asked before, the guy in the desert meeting Megatron is Lennox.
Really now? What are you up to Lennox?
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 6th, 2016 @ 12:38pm CST
...and here I thought Lennox was a smarter guy
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 6th, 2016 @ 12:38pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Well, we know that Cade is fully sided with the Autobots, and Lennox is working on the side that stands against Cade, and, well, the guy in the desert has short hair like Josh Duhamel instead of longer hair like Mark Wahlberg.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Also, to answer a question asked before, the guy in the desert meeting Megatron is Lennox.
Really now? What are you up to Lennox?
...and here I thought Lennox was a smarter guy
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845748)
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 12:43pm CST
Handsome man like that who could get any girl he wants and he picks Fergie over J Lo, Shakira and Scarlet Johansen? Doesnt sound like the sharpest tool in the shed.
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 12:43pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, we know that Cade is fully sided with the Autobots, and Lennox is working on the side that stands against Cade, and, well, the guy in the desert has short hair like Josh Duhamel instead of longer hair like Mark Wahlberg.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Also, to answer a question asked before, the guy in the desert meeting Megatron is Lennox.
Really now? What are you up to Lennox?
...and here I thought Lennox was a smarter guy
Handsome man like that who could get any girl he wants and he picks Fergie over J Lo, Shakira and Scarlet Johansen? Doesnt sound like the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Posted by Va'al on December 6th, 2016 @ 2:01pm CST
Posted by Va'al on December 6th, 2016 @ 2:01pm CST
You're probably thinking 'we've seen the new Transformers: The Last Knight teaser trailer already' - and you'd be correct. But we now have a Super HD version directly from Paramount up on our YouTube channel, and embedded below, so you can feast your optics on the latest Bayhem production!
Also included below are two featurettes, on IMAX's anniversary with Transformers and on Freya the rescue dog who stars in the movie, both of which were stories we covered here and here. Check them all out!
Also included below are two featurettes, on IMAX's anniversary with Transformers and on Freya the rescue dog who stars in the movie, both of which were stories we covered here and here. Check them all out!
Re: The Double-Use of the Song in Transformers: The Last Knight Trailer (1845764)
Posted by Ultra Magnus on December 6th, 2016 @ 2:24pm CST
Seriously??? Not a SINGLE transformation in the Trailer???
Celebrating 10 years of BAD Character and production Design, WORSE storytelling, and the egregious GUTTING of this proud Lore that has been kept alive by communities such as this?
This is what is happening to our beloved franchise:
Transformers(Missed the mark so many times, but still gave hope; it's "newness" was cool)
Revenge of the Fallen(BadBadBadBadBadBadBad movie)
Dark of the Moon(grammar, anyone? Still better than ROTF, got no benefit of doubt, tho)
Age of Extinction (Unremarkable, if forgettable. Morph-cube transforming? Uggghhh)
I doubt I'll even see this one in the theater. Don't think I can take it anymore. Thankfully, IDW has a clue about what it's doing...
Posted by Ultra Magnus on December 6th, 2016 @ 2:24pm CST
Seriously??? Not a SINGLE transformation in the Trailer???
Celebrating 10 years of BAD Character and production Design, WORSE storytelling, and the egregious GUTTING of this proud Lore that has been kept alive by communities such as this?
This is what is happening to our beloved franchise:
Transformers(Missed the mark so many times, but still gave hope; it's "newness" was cool) Revenge of the Fallen(BadBadBadBadBadBadBad movie) Dark of the Moon(grammar, anyone? Still better than ROTF, got no benefit of doubt, tho) Age of Extinction (Unremarkable, if forgettable. Morph-cube transforming? Uggghhh)I doubt I'll even see this one in the theater. Don't think I can take it anymore. Thankfully, IDW has a clue about what it's doing...
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Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2016 @ 3:13pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 6th, 2016 @ 3:13pm CST
I'm no huge advocate for Bay's films, but I find it a little ironic that someone who praises IDW would complain about the lack of Transformations in a TF Movie Trailer. 
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Posted by Ultra Magnus on December 6th, 2016 @ 3:24pm CST
Posted by Ultra Magnus on December 6th, 2016 @ 3:24pm CST
Touche', @o.Supreme.
The IDW comics do a better job of utilizing, featuring(and respecting) the decades of Lore that this franchised has produced. I'll concede that they don't transform very often in some of the IDW books(which, is another item that is discussed in MTMTE)... But that's Comics; transformation can only be done so well in terms of sequential images on a page. The trailer is for a Transformers Movie; as in Motion Picture; and the (arguably) most Dynamic thing about Transfomers is the TRANSFORMING... Bad enough that they down-played the transformation sound effect(no, I'm not over that yet), but I have a feeling that this movie will just be "Age of Extinction 2"...
...a.k.a. Pointless.
The IDW comics do a better job of utilizing, featuring(and respecting) the decades of Lore that this franchised has produced. I'll concede that they don't transform very often in some of the IDW books(which, is another item that is discussed in MTMTE)... But that's Comics; transformation can only be done so well in terms of sequential images on a page. The trailer is for a Transformers Movie; as in Motion Picture; and the (arguably) most Dynamic thing about Transfomers is the TRANSFORMING... Bad enough that they down-played the transformation sound effect(no, I'm not over that yet), but I have a feeling that this movie will just be "Age of Extinction 2"...
...a.k.a. Pointless.
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Posted by Ironzeus on December 6th, 2016 @ 3:44pm CST
Posted by Ironzeus on December 6th, 2016 @ 3:44pm CST
I understand the dislike for Michael Bay but i'm glad they keep making these movies... it means continued interest in the brand and that means new toys 
We can take away alot from this trailer though as to where the story will go.
1. We know there is going to be 2 timelines, past and present (cool to me, 2 sets of characters)
2. These big planet sized set pieces have to reference Primus or Unicron (finally)
3. Prime looks evil with the purple eyes, probably corrupted. (cool flip if Unicron revives and champions Prime instead of Megatron)
4. Hot Rod is in this film, bet he will be a main character (could that yellowish face be hotrods?). I bet Hot Rod will be instrumental in redeeming possessed Prime.
5. That 2 headed dragon, its gotta be Predaking or a tribute to transmetal beastwars Megatron. (I bet the dragon is Megatron's alt mode in the medieval past timeline)
6. Onslaught is in the movie... Bruticus PLEASE!
7. There is some artifact tech piece that Merlin/Arthur will have, the key to cybertron perhaps?
8. The big transformer that swings down the sword and misses the guy is definitely Megatron, I saw people post and ask who that was... how can you miss that one?
I'll go see it in theaters... these movies have always been less about the story to me and more about the visuals, and I'm entertained by that. To see Bruticus, Hot Rod, Unicron on the big screen is too cool.
We can take away alot from this trailer though as to where the story will go.
1. We know there is going to be 2 timelines, past and present (cool to me, 2 sets of characters)
2. These big planet sized set pieces have to reference Primus or Unicron (finally)
3. Prime looks evil with the purple eyes, probably corrupted. (cool flip if Unicron revives and champions Prime instead of Megatron)
4. Hot Rod is in this film, bet he will be a main character (could that yellowish face be hotrods?). I bet Hot Rod will be instrumental in redeeming possessed Prime.
5. That 2 headed dragon, its gotta be Predaking or a tribute to transmetal beastwars Megatron. (I bet the dragon is Megatron's alt mode in the medieval past timeline)
6. Onslaught is in the movie... Bruticus PLEASE!
7. There is some artifact tech piece that Merlin/Arthur will have, the key to cybertron perhaps?
8. The big transformer that swings down the sword and misses the guy is definitely Megatron, I saw people post and ask who that was... how can you miss that one?
I'll go see it in theaters... these movies have always been less about the story to me and more about the visuals, and I'm entertained by that. To see Bruticus, Hot Rod, Unicron on the big screen is too cool.
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Posted by ax255 on December 6th, 2016 @ 3:53pm CST
Posted by ax255 on December 6th, 2016 @ 3:53pm CST
Please....no Unicron....please
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Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 4:00pm CST
Just to say:
The dragon has 3 heads
And that artifact is (most probably) Excalibur, we have seen it in previous on set images.
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2016 @ 4:00pm CST
Ironzeus wrote:5. That 2 headed dragon, its gotta be Predaking or a tribute to transmetal beastwars Megatron. (I bet the dragon is Megatron's alt mode in the medieval past timeline)
7. There is some artifact tech piece that Merlin/Arthur will have, the key to cybertron perhaps?
Just to say:
The dragon has 3 heads
And that artifact is (most probably) Excalibur, we have seen it in previous on set images.
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Posted by Silverwing on December 6th, 2016 @ 4:36pm CST
The lack of transformation in a single trailer (especially the first one) does not indicate a lack of transforming in the movie (remember, the AOE trailers had transformations in them and we know how that turned out). Also, the point of this trailer was to emphasize characters/emotions and the intrigue side of the story. Transformations would have been nice to see, but they aren't necessary for the purposes of this teaser.
Posted by Silverwing on December 6th, 2016 @ 4:36pm CST
Ultra Magnus wrote:
The trailer is for a Transformers Movie; as in Motion Picture; and the (arguably) most Dynamic thing about Transfomers is the TRANSFORMING
The lack of transformation in a single trailer (especially the first one) does not indicate a lack of transforming in the movie (remember, the AOE trailers had transformations in them and we know how that turned out). Also, the point of this trailer was to emphasize characters/emotions and the intrigue side of the story. Transformations would have been nice to see, but they aren't necessary for the purposes of this teaser.
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Posted by ebo716 on December 6th, 2016 @ 5:04pm CST
Posted by ebo716 on December 6th, 2016 @ 5:04pm CST
I think the planet is probably unicron because the setup is very similar to megatron's deal with unicron in that there is a destroyed robot floating in space that is suddenly under the control of a currently unknown entity ( in Optimus's case) or unicron ( in megatron's case)
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Posted by DeathReviews on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:26pm CST
Posted by DeathReviews on December 6th, 2016 @ 6:26pm CST
Eh, I know lots of folks are excited for another feature film with the Transformers in it. But even if Bay isn't the primary force behind the film, his oar is still stuck in deep enough that it FEELS like he's still running the show. And while there's nothing really wrong with his movies, there's nothing really right with them either.
I may be wrong, only Time will tell, but the Bayverse movies have had enough 'meh' in them after four tries that I'm automatically wary. ALL the teaser trailers looked good. Then we sat in the theaters and were dished up substance-free explosion fests topped with Devastator wrecking balls.
So I'll wait for the reviews to come in, I think....
I may be wrong, only Time will tell, but the Bayverse movies have had enough 'meh' in them after four tries that I'm automatically wary. ALL the teaser trailers looked good. Then we sat in the theaters and were dished up substance-free explosion fests topped with Devastator wrecking balls.
So I'll wait for the reviews to come in, I think....
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Posted by SnoopDawg on December 6th, 2016 @ 7:09pm CST
Posted by SnoopDawg on December 6th, 2016 @ 7:09pm CST
I am so hyped for this film! I don't care with what other think or say about it but this looks amazing! People have been saying that the movies suck due to the lack of reference to the source material, but technically the films are creating their own source material. I like the direction that they are going in And let me just say: that Megatron looks awesome! I really dig his look in this and hopefully he can have a larger and more crucial role in this. Optimus seems to have some red on his head when he's going against Bumblebee. It could be related to Prime's behaviour and the reason for his purple eyes. Can't wait until we see some more stuff!
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Posted by First-Aid on December 6th, 2016 @ 7:40pm CST
Pretty cool stuff.
THe big debate seems to be what this planet is. My thoughts:
NOT Cybertron. In DOTM it was quite clear that Cybertron was considerably larger than Earth. Judging by the curvature of the planet in the movie, my thought is that Cybertron is AT LEAST double Earth's diameter...maybe 15-20,000 miles in diameter. This ship is barely twice the size of the moon.
Unicron: don't think so. This is a second trilogy (though apparently more connected in story than the first one). Introducing Unicron as this big of a threat at this point rather than saving him for the sixth (pentultimate, trilogy-wise) movie seems premature.
Unmentioned possibility to this point: Mothership of some kind. 'Con mothership? Or the Creators' mothership? It seems that the protrusions could very well be detachable ships of some kind. Along those lines is my last unmentioned possibility...
Unmentioned possibility #2: QUINTESSA! Why not? Quintessa in the cartoon was a pretty screwed up planet anyways. This could be the new version.
I have to admit, I was actually more excited by this trailer than I was for the AoE one. We'll see.
Posted by First-Aid on December 6th, 2016 @ 7:40pm CST
Pretty cool stuff.
THe big debate seems to be what this planet is. My thoughts:
NOT Cybertron. In DOTM it was quite clear that Cybertron was considerably larger than Earth. Judging by the curvature of the planet in the movie, my thought is that Cybertron is AT LEAST double Earth's diameter...maybe 15-20,000 miles in diameter. This ship is barely twice the size of the moon.
Unicron: don't think so. This is a second trilogy (though apparently more connected in story than the first one). Introducing Unicron as this big of a threat at this point rather than saving him for the sixth (pentultimate, trilogy-wise) movie seems premature.
Unmentioned possibility to this point: Mothership of some kind. 'Con mothership? Or the Creators' mothership? It seems that the protrusions could very well be detachable ships of some kind. Along those lines is my last unmentioned possibility...
Unmentioned possibility #2: QUINTESSA! Why not? Quintessa in the cartoon was a pretty screwed up planet anyways. This could be the new version.
I have to admit, I was actually more excited by this trailer than I was for the AoE one. We'll see.
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Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2016 @ 8:41pm CST
Or the Death Egg II.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2016 @ 8:41pm CST
It's obviously Gobotron.First-Aid wrote:
Pretty cool stuff.
THe big debate seems to be what this planet is. My thoughts:
NOT Cybertron. In DOTM it was quite clear that Cybertron was considerably larger than Earth. Judging by the curvature of the planet in the movie, my thought is that Cybertron is AT LEAST double Earth's diameter...maybe 15-20,000 miles in diameter. This ship is barely twice the size of the moon.
Unicron: don't think so. This is a second trilogy (though apparently more connected in story than the first one). Introducing Unicron as this big of a threat at this point rather than saving him for the sixth (pentultimate, trilogy-wise) movie seems premature.
Unmentioned possibility to this point: Mothership of some kind. 'Con mothership? Or the Creators' mothership? It seems that the protrusions could very well be detachable ships of some kind. Along those lines is my last unmentioned possibility...
Unmentioned possibility #2: QUINTESSA! Why not? Quintessa in the cartoon was a pretty screwed up planet anyways. This could be the new version.
I have to admit, I was actually more excited by this trailer than I was for the AoE one. We'll see.
Or the Death Egg II.
