TF Animated Toys: Class size and name rumors

I was hoping Blitzwing would be a Voyager considering he's a triple changer and is supposed to have the face gimmick. But I guess its not to be. I just hope the actual figure works out the 3 modes nicely and the 3 face gimmick is at least passable.

I'm kinda glad that Blitzwing is deluxe size. Lugnut doesn't look too tall and hopefully the two will be roughly the same size in robot mode.

Besides Astrotrain and Octane are deluxe sized too.

if they're having trouble fitting all the triple changing and face changing gimmicks into a deluxe Blitzwing, good luck coming up with the 'activator' version.

astig wrote:

Crosscheck wrote:

astig wrote:Cool! finally an ULTRA MAGNUS toy that's not a white prime!
Ultimate class! I would really like to see what omega supreme looks like!

I am willing to bet we alreaddy know what OS's alt mode looks like, so we can probably extrapolate his robot mode from that (what object in the series has his same color scheme? hint hint).

is it their space shuttle the ARK??? transformed by the Allspark key??? if that's true, that would be cool!!!

I had been thinking that myself. Hey the Ark looks a little like Omega Supreme.

All good news... Man, those of us who are interested in this line are going to be spending a ton of $$$.

I really wish they were making all of the Constructicons, just because other than Soundwave, they're my favorite Decepticon characters.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I really wish they were making all of the Constructicons, just because other than Soundwave, they're my favorite Decepticon characters.

Yeah, I hope they are.

Awesome i cant wait to get ultra magnus and omega supreme

Blitzwing as a deluxe may end up working out like Lockdown. Lockdown is really tall when he is transformed into robot mode.

every thing seems reasonable EXCEPT THE FACT THAT THE CONSTRUCTICONS ARE ONLY TO BOTS THAT I ASSUME THEY DONT COMBINE INTO DEVASTATOR!!!!!!RAWR

I'm still cautiously optimistic on that one. They only list 2 waves of deluxes. The rest of the constructicons could be spread across subsequent waves.

I remember collecting G1 in the eighties, I remember usually seeing two, three at most separate constructicons for sale at any one time.

cybertronianjedi wrote:every thing seems reasonable EXCEPT THE FACT THAT THE CONSTRUCTICONS ARE ONLY TO BOTS THAT I ASSUME THEY DONT COMBINE INTO DEVASTATOR!!!!!!RAWR

They only did that in G1. There's no cosmic law dictating that all Constructicons have to merge into Devastator. Animated is not G1, it has a totally different ethic and style to it. They might even have a robot called Devastator as a wrecking ball crane as a member of the sub-group, but not members merging into him, for example.

Hard Hacker wrote:

cybertronianjedi wrote:every thing seems reasonable EXCEPT THE FACT THAT THE CONSTRUCTICONS ARE ONLY TO BOTS THAT I ASSUME THEY DONT COMBINE INTO DEVASTATOR!!!!!!RAWR

They only did that in G1. There's no cosmic law dictating that all Constructicons have to merge into Devastator.

... Blasphemy!!

Its a shame that Blitzwig is a deluxe to be honest I would like to see him in a voyager size, sentinel is a definite and omega? SWEET!

tigertracks 24 wrote:I suppose this should go up since it is rumors, even though the information has been kicked around for a bit. It's another layer to the overall picture until we know for sure.

On the other hand, we didnt news it last week, and its the same source, with no hard evidence behind it.

But damn I want the Omega Supreme...

i_amtrunks wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:I suppose this should go up since it is rumors, even though the information has been kicked around for a bit. It's another layer to the overall picture until we know for sure.

On the other hand, we didnt news it last week, and its the same source, with no hard evidence behind it.

But damn I want the Omega Supreme...

I didn't newsify it because I didn't know anything about TF08. Then they come up with all these galleries. So one wonders if they have a little bit of insider ability.

It was worth it, but we could have had this up last weekend, if I had seen more reason to believe their list.


Oh well. It's a rumor. We've had them on before.

Is Ultimate new Supreme, or are they finaly gonna kick it up a notch?

Also, this should silence the Blitzwing rumor of him being Voyager.

Liege Evilmus wrote:Is Ultimate new Supreme, or are they finaly gonna kick it up a notch?

I don't think so. Roll Out Prime is on that list under 'Ultimate' but says 'Supreme Class' on the box.

As for confirmation of Blitzwing being deluxe class, I expect it will be, but I would still treat the information on this site as speculation.

WHOOHOO!!!
All the best choices!!!!!
I cant wait to see the ultimate class.

"Posted by Glitcher on April 10th, 2008 @ 9:53am CDT

For a news moderator, Counterpunch sure doesn't keep up to date.

Pout much...

That aside.

I too think that a massive Omega Supreme would rock!

Scavenger. WOO, that's going to be a HUUGE devastator.

WOW, Blitzwing is going to be DELUXE!
GOTTAHAVEGOTTAHAVE!

Yeah, I'm excited about the news about Omega...
To be honest, as far as the cartoon goes, it seems to me that the Decepticons would overpower the Autobots, even with the Dinobots.
Omega will help balance this out.

I just hope they call pull off a good figure of him.

Two Constructicons as Deluxes?
Hmmm... Give me one more as a Voyager, and let the combining begin!

Is Snarl a new thing we haven't heard about before or is it actually just the Triceratops, cause I coulda sworn he was Slag and a Voyager.

NuclearConvoy wrote:Is Snarl a new thing we haven't heard about before or is it actually just the Triceratops, cause I coulda sworn he was Slag and a Voyager.

Snarl is the Triceratops.

Dead Metal wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:Is Snarl a new thing we haven't heard about before or is it actually just the Triceratops, cause I coulda sworn he was Slag and a Voyager.

Snarl is the Triceratops.

I cry foul at the improper name reuse!
I'm not usually one to get huffy bout such things, but, dammit, Snarl is the Stegosaurus and Slag is the Triceratops...and it should damn well stay that way!!!

So is there NOT a Leader class Prime??
I don't really care, just wondering.

And yeah, I think it's too bad they are calling Slag, "Snarl".
I personally would've preferred they use a totally different name, not one that's been used for another Dinobot for years now.

Sowndwave76 wrote:So is there NOT a Leader class Prime??
I don't really care, just wondering.

And yeah, I think it's too bad they are calling Slag, "Snarl".
I personally wouldn't preferred they use a totally different name, not one that's been used for another Dinobot for years now.

Well, honestly, I was just hoping for the possibility of having the other 2 Dinobots show up in later seasons and having Tricetops being named Snarl kinda messes with that, y'know?

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:So is there NOT a Leader class Prime??
I don't really care, just wondering.

And yeah, I think it's too bad they are calling Slag, "Snarl".
I personally wouldn't preferred they use a totally different name, not one that's been used for another Dinobot for years now.

Well, honestly, I was just hoping for the possibility of having the other 2 Dinobots show up in later seasons and having Tricetops being named Snarl kinda messes with that, y'know?

It was stated that the plans were for only 3 dinobots in Animated. The other two 'might' show up in Universe.

Leader class Prime would tower over all the other toys, and he does not do that in the show. Why would you want one? There is an Ultimate coming, I think, so you can enjoy that over-sized version.

tigertracks 24 wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:So is there NOT a Leader class Prime??
I don't really care, just wondering.

And yeah, I think it's too bad they are calling Slag, "Snarl".
I personally wouldn't preferred they use a totally different name, not one that's been used for another Dinobot for years now.

Well, honestly, I was just hoping for the possibility of having the other 2 Dinobots show up in later seasons and having Tricetops being named Snarl kinda messes with that, y'know?

It was stated that the plans were for only 3 dinobots in Animated. The other two 'might' show up in Universe.

Leader class Prime would tower over all the other toys, and he does not do that in the show. Why would you want one? There is an Ultimate coming, I think, so you can enjoy that over-sized version.

I never said I wanted one... Just curious as to the options that will be available.
Besides, if it were an awesome mold, I don't care if it's not in scale with the rest of the line.
From what I've seen, I'm not nearly impressed enough with the Ultimate version to pay $50-$70.

I actually think there's a really good chance that Snarl and Sludge will end up in the Universe line with NEW molds.

May I ask when are Leader class Megatrobn and Bulkhead due out ?

So gang, what figures do you think represent each character toy-wise?

I mean, I think voyager Prime, and deluxe Prowl and Bumblebee. But what about bulkhead and such?

Dealer wrote:So gang, what figures do you think represent each character toy-wise?

I mean, I think voyager Prime, and deluxe Prowl and Bumblebee. But what about bulkhead and such?

huh?

do you mean in terms of scale or in terms of which toy is the best representation of the character?

Like Voyager Bulkhead is more cartoon accurate, but Leader Bulkhead is more scale accurate.

i ho;pe omega su;preme is at botcon

Bumblethumper wrote:

Dealer wrote:So gang, what figures do you think represent each character toy-wise?

I mean, I think voyager Prime, and deluxe Prowl and Bumblebee. But what about bulkhead and such?

huh?

do you mean in terms of scale or in terms of which toy is the best representation of the character?

Like Voyager Bulkhead is more cartoon accurate, but Leader Bulkhead is more scale accurate.

That's the word, scale. I couldn't remember the word when I posted


Yes, in terms of scale, what do believe would be the best representation of each character.




And stuff veichle scale. This is a kid's show for gods sake.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:It was stated that the plans were for only 3 dinobots in Animated. The other two 'might' show up in Universe.

I actually think there's a really good chance that Snarl and Sludge will end up in the Universe line with NEW molds.

That would be awesome, though I'm not sure how likely it is. I don't think Universe is going to be as big a line as most of us would hope for. I just don't think there's much room for Universe between Animated and the movie sequel next year.

Anyway, I'd love if they did Sludge as a voyager class, and Snarl as deluxe. I'm hoping some time after the sequel, they'll do like a Classics 3.0, so it'd be great if we got one in this line and the other then.

Dealer wrote:

Bumblethumper wrote:

Dealer wrote:So gang, what figures do you think represent each character toy-wise?

I mean, I think voyager Prime, and deluxe Prowl and Bumblebee. But what about bulkhead and such?

huh?

do you mean in terms of scale or in terms of which toy is the best representation of the character?

Like Voyager Bulkhead is more cartoon accurate, but Leader Bulkhead is more scale accurate.

That's the word, scale. I couldn't remember the word when I posted


Yes, in terms of scale, what do believe would be the best representation of each character.

I think I'm going to have to do several line ups for scale. Voyager Bulkhead is about as tall as Deluxe Bumblebee, so instead I'll probably have to put him with activator Bumblebee, and deluxe Prime.

Then for Omega Supreme, that'll be big, but probably not big enough if he's supposed to turn into the ark. To make him look huge, I might put him next to some activators or happy meal transformers.

tigertracks 24 wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:So is there NOT a Leader class Prime??
I don't really care, just wondering.

And yeah, I think it's too bad they are calling Slag, "Snarl".
I personally wouldn't preferred they use a totally different name, not one that's been used for another Dinobot for years now.

Well, honestly, I was just hoping for the possibility of having the other 2 Dinobots show up in later seasons and having Tricetops being named Snarl kinda messes with that, y'know?

It was stated that the plans were for only 3 dinobots in Animated. The other two 'might' show up in Universe.

Leader class Prime would tower over all the other toys, and he does not do that in the show. Why would you want one? There is an Ultimate coming, I think, so you can enjoy that over-sized version.

Yeah, but they won't be the same design style. You wouldn't be able to display them together and say they are a cohesive vision of "new" Dinobots.

Bumblethumper wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:It was stated that the plans were for only 3 dinobots in Animated. The other two 'might' show up in Universe.

I actually think there's a really good chance that Snarl and Sludge will end up in the Universe line with NEW molds.

That would be awesome, though I'm not sure how likely it is. I don't think Universe is going to be as big a line as most of us would hope for. I just don't think there's much room for Universe between Animated and the movie sequel next year.

Anyway, I'd love if they did Sludge as a voyager class, and Snarl as deluxe. I'm hoping some time after the sequel, they'll do like a Classics 3.0, so it'd be great if we got one in this line and the other then.

Yeah, you could be right... Especially since Hasbro has stated that alt modes need to be "relevant" to the present and what they feel will appeal to today's kids (although I think every generation of kids could be into dinosaurs).

And now that you mention it, you also could be right that Universe may be short-lived and almost take on "filler status".
I just get this vibe that Hasbro is not going to commit to lots of new molds... Now the sales will have some influence of course,
but since $$$$$$$ is their goal, I could see them really milking the option of repaints no matter what.
Although it's not likely, I wouldn't even put it past them to put out a couple repaints of movie figure molds.
I mean, look at Blaster; they didn't even give him a new head!!
For some reason, even though most of the mass public wouldn't know the difference between repaint and new mold,
I think too many repaints could sink that line.

AND, you're probably right about a Classics 3.0!!
Safely release more classic G1 characters once interest is revved up again.
*See, there would've been a good way to release the Botcon Seekers!!
2 in this year's Universe line, and 1 in the next 3.0 installment!!!!
(I'm really not trying to open up that debate)

I'm just glad there's a lot to look forward to either way.
Once those Animated figures hit shelves, I think we'll be set with TF goodies until almost Christmas.

I think you might be right. Dinosaurs will always be awesome to kids, and I think dinobots will always be just as popular. I don't see any reason not to do them for Universe at some point.

Universe and Animated will overlap. My suspicion is that Universe was a way of hedging their bets in case Animated was a total flop. I don't think the Animated toyline will flop, and if it's a success like I expect it to be, it may be better business sense to push it at the expense of Universe.

I think TF:A could have several good years in it, and I'm sure there'll be some overlap with the movie sequels. They could manage 2 overlapping TF lines, but I'm not sure they'd want to have 3.

There'll probably always be a demand for Classicverse figures, and with that in mind, it wouldn't surprise me if Hasbro winds up putting it on the backburner. They're the sort of thing that will probably sell even without all the hype. What I'd like is if they pushed new Classicsverse figures instead of bloating the other lines like they did with all those non-movie movieline figures we got.

I don't really mind if they do put it on the backburner, so long as they get back to it eventually. What would bother me is if it becomes a repaint dumping ground.

Bumblethumper wrote:I think you might be right. Dinosaurs will always be awesome to kids, and I think dinobots will always be just as popular. I don't see any reason not to do them for Universe at some point.

Universe and Animated will overlap. My suspicion is that Universe was a way of hedging their bets in case Animated was a total flop. I don't think the Animated toyline will flop, and if it's a success like I expect it to be, it may be better business sense to push it at the expense of Universe.

I think TF:A could have several good years in it, and I'm sure there'll be some overlap with the movie sequels. They could manage 2 overlapping TF lines, but I'm not sure they'd want to have 3.

There'll probably always be a demand for Classicverse figures, and with that in mind, it wouldn't surprise me if Hasbro winds up putting it on the backburner. They're the sort of thing that will probably sell even without all the hype. What I'd like is if they pushed new Classicsverse figures instead of bloating the other lines like they did with all those non-movie movieline figures we got.

I don't really mind if they do put it on the backburner, so long as they get back to it eventually. What would bother me is if it becomes a repaint dumping ground.

We're of a very similar mind!!
I think Classiverse will permanently be a back-up/safety net to other lines. And I don't have a problem with that either.
This may actually motivate them to keep pushing out new molds.
Although I'd like to see them handle things for the actual classic characters a little bit differently...
Paying more attention to scale, and not making characters such as Blaster poor repaints would be nice.
My question is this:
If the line continues, it seems that they'll run out of G1 Decepticon characters quickly (whether repainted or not). So,

*Once they get through the Combaticons, Stunticons, and Insecticons(if they even make them), who's left?
I don't want "Insecticons" that have different, non-insect alt modes.
I guess there's Cyclonus, and Scourge....
I bring this up because I could see the line going to that repaint dumping ground that we fear.

That didn't occur to me, but it's a good point. There's probably ways around it though. For one thing, they generally seem to wind up doing more autobots than decepticons anyway. For another, G1 is huge, so there's always more depending on how deep you want to go and how obscure you want to get.

I've never been keen on Insecticons, but I do like Cyclonus and Scourge. Given that they're already doing Galvatron, I was almost expecting one or other or both of them.

Put it this way: nothing would please me more than to see them get to the point where running out of decepticons becomes an issue.

Bumblethumper wrote:That didn't occur to me, but it's a good point. There's probably ways around it though. For one thing, they generally seem to wind up doing more autobots than decepticons anyway. For another, G1 is huge, so there's always more depending on how deep you want to go and how obscure you want to get.

I've never been keen on Insecticons, but I do like Cyclonus and Scourge. Given that they're already doing Galvatron, I was almost expecting one or other or both of them.

Put it this way: nothing would please me more than to see them get to the point where running out of decepticons becomes an issue.

I'm still torn on that Galvatron. It has the best looking Galavtron head sculpt I think they've ever done, but he's drastically lacking in looking intimidating and powerful. Also, the grey tank mode bothers me...maybe I'll have to attempt my first repaint on him...

Bumblethumper wrote:That didn't occur to me, but it's a good point. There's probably ways around it though. For one thing, they generally seem to wind up doing more autobots than decepticons anyway. For another, G1 is huge, so there's always more depending on how deep you want to go and how obscure you want to get.

I've never been keen on Insecticons, but I do like Cyclonus and Scourge. Given that they're already doing Galvatron, I was almost expecting one or other or both of them.

Put it this way: nothing would please me more than to see them get to the point where running out of decepticons becomes an issue.

Again, I agree with you... I want to see Scourge and Cyclonus waaay before the Insecticons.
In fact, I'd like to see them before they do get through all of the Stunticons and Combaticons.
I hope they get to the point of a Decepticon character shortage too...
Maybe they'd release a decent set of Constructicons and give all 6 of them the justice they deserve!!!!

NuclearConvoy wrote:
I'm still torn on that Galvatron. It has the best looking Galavtron head sculpt I think they've ever done, but he's drastically lacking in looking intimidating and powerful. Also, the grey tank mode bothers me...maybe I'll have to attempt my first repaint on him...

I'm still holding out hope that they'll do a larger scale Galvatron, much the same as they did 2 different scale Megatrons in Classics 1.0

Bumblethumper wrote:

NuclearConvoy wrote:
I'm still torn on that Galvatron. It has the best looking Galavtron head sculpt I think they've ever done, but he's drastically lacking in looking intimidating and powerful. Also, the grey tank mode bothers me...maybe I'll have to attempt my first repaint on him...

I'm still holding out hope that they'll do a larger scale Galvatron, much the same as they did 2 different scale Megatrons in Classics 1.0

I hope you're right, and I hope he has a more "accurate" alt-mode.
I don't mind fiddling with the design, but Galvatron just isn't a gunmetal grey tank, he's a purple cannon thing, or pistol thing, or jet thing. With a good head mold, a great bot mode, purple overall colourscheme and an orange canonno I wouldn't be too concerned what he turned in to.