TakaraTomy Transformers Legends LG-23 Galvatron In-Hand

Hey he has a decently painted Headmaster in this version!

Y'know, the headmaster without the crown actually works on it's own decently in a weird sort of way. Not exactly an emulation of the 1986 toy head, but it's still sort of nice.

Cyberpath wrote:You mean Hasui.

ハイブロウとスカージは関節が共通なので変形するしないは別にしてこんな感じに自由に組換えられます。 これを応用してオリジナルの変形ロボットを作ったり、好みの関節の色を選んだりして楽しむのも面白いかと思います。#TT_TF

To transform so highbrow and scourge of the joints are common and are not, like genetically modified free will. I also enjoy the sights and color preference of joint, making the original transform robot by applying this interesting. #TT_TF

Will you look at that! Scourge is Highbrow's base design? Now about the Elita-1 from Blurr I mentioned a few post back, the possibilities are mind boggling. Why try to redesign the wheel if it's not broken why fix it? It can be done if there's a demand that is. Just like henkei Lambor/Sunstreaker. Just make the front the back or vice versa and feminize Blurr.

fenrir72 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:You mean Hasui.

ハイブロウとスカージは関節が共通なので変形するしないは別にしてこんな感じに自由に組換えられます。 これを応用してオリジナルの変形ロボットを作ったり、好みの関節の色を選んだりして楽しむのも面白いかと思います。#TT_TF

To transform so highbrow and scourge of the joints are common and are not, like genetically modified free will. I also enjoy the sights and color preference of joint, making the original transform robot by applying this interesting. #TT_TF

Will you look at that! Scourge is Highbrow's base design? Now about the Elita-1 from Blurr I mentioned a few post back, the possibilities are mind boggling. Why try to redesign the wheel if it's not broken why fix it? It can be done if there's a demand that is. Just like henkei Lambor/Sunstreaker. Just make the front the back or vice versa and feminize Blurr.

oh i think Id like to see a Galaxy Force/Cybertron version of Override out of the Blurr mold before Elita One. mostly because override has had any love for so long now.

Randomhero wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:You mean Hasui.

ハイブロウとスカージは関節が共通なので変形するしないは別にしてこんな感じに自由に組換えられます。 これを応用してオリジナルの変形ロボットを作ったり、好みの関節の色を選んだりして楽しむのも面白いかと思います。#TT_TF

To transform so highbrow and scourge of the joints are common and are not, like genetically modified free will. I also enjoy the sights and color preference of joint, making the original transform robot by applying this interesting. #TT_TF

Will you look at that! Scourge is Highbrow's base design? Now about the Elita-1 from Blurr I mentioned a few post back, the possibilities are mind boggling. Why try to redesign the wheel if it's not broken why fix it? It can be done if there's a demand that is. Just like henkei Lambor/Sunstreaker. Just make the front the back or vice versa and feminize Blurr.

oh i think Id like to see a Galaxy Force/Cybertron version of Override out of the Blurr mold before Elita One. mostly because override has had any love for so long now.

On the other hand.

Override's mass retail release toy count: 1
Elita-1's mass retail release toy count: 0
The chance of this line doing anything from any continuity family other than G1: 0%

I do wish Hardhead and Skullcruncher would hurry up and get here soon before everyone uses up all the cool poses.

We have more in hand images of of the Takara Transformers Legends figures that were released yesterday: Transformers Legends LG21 Hardhead and Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (Sukuru aka Skullsmasher)

These come from a variety of sources on Twitter as well as our Japan correspondant Matt, who took pictures of all sides of Skull's box. He was ¥3,530 ($34.43) at retail.

Enjoy!

Update

Matt also got us pictures of the comic inside and has given us a quick note on Skull(smasher's) stability:

Doesn't have any problem standing. He has fairly tight joints. The cockpit is that same soft plastic as the Hasbro version.

Looks like the process of placing Skull's little Headmaster on Batora's Bird Mode is called "Ride On!"

Aaaaaaagh Skullcruncher's head is perfect. I might just have to go Takara for this guy.

I wonder if Skully has a hard shell covering the pilot's cockpit, or if it is soft and rubbery like Hasbro's?

Tigertrack wrote:I wonder if Skully has a hard shell covering the pilot's cockpit, or if it is soft and rubbery like Hasbro's?

I updated the article with the following testimony from Matt:

Doesn't have any problem standing. He has fairly tight joints. The cockpit is that same soft plastic as the Hasbro version.

It's annoying. Hasbro looks better in every way - Takara's brown just looks terrible - but I'd love to have a mouth on him.

Kurona wrote:It's annoying. Hasbro looks better in every way - Takara's brown just looks terrible - but I'd love to have a mouth on him.

PC monitor color images not always accurate to the real thing. That being said, both Hb and Takara look great at an initial impression.

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:It's annoying. Hasbro looks better in every way - Takara's brown just looks terrible - but I'd love to have a mouth on him.

PC monitor color images not always accurate to the real thing. That being said, both Hb and Takara look great at an initial impression.

Yeah pretty much if Hasbro's had the mouth from Takara's it would look great. But, I still like the faceplate. I actually prefer toy accuracy a lot of times.

SillySpringer wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:It's annoying. Hasbro looks better in every way - Takara's brown just looks terrible - but I'd love to have a mouth on him.

PC monitor color images not always accurate to the real thing. That being said, both Hb and Takara look great at an initial impression.

Yeah pretty much if Hasbro's had the mouth from Takara's it would look great. But, I still like the faceplate. I actually prefer toy accuracy a lot of times.

Sadly, I like both, and especially variants like these...

SillySpringer wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:It's annoying. Hasbro looks better in every way - Takara's brown just looks terrible - but I'd love to have a mouth on him.

PC monitor color images not always accurate to the real thing. That being said, both Hb and Takara look great at an initial impression.

Yeah pretty much if Hasbro's had the mouth from Takara's it would look great. But, I still like the faceplate. I actually prefer toy accuracy a lot of times.

Oh yeah, I like the faceplate too so it's not like I'm disappointed to get it; I'm just sad I can't also have a mouth. Options yo

Kurona wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:It's annoying. Hasbro looks better in every way - Takara's brown just looks terrible - but I'd love to have a mouth on him.

PC monitor color images not always accurate to the real thing. That being said, both Hb and Takara look great at an initial impression.

Yeah pretty much if Hasbro's had the mouth from Takara's it would look great. But, I still like the faceplate. I actually prefer toy accuracy a lot of times.

Oh yeah, I like the faceplate too so it's not like I'm disappointed to get it; I'm just sad I can't also have a mouth. Options yo

That's why I with I could get Armor Knight Optimus Prime.

Cyberpath wrote:

LG35 stock photos:










Source: http://hobby.dengeki.com/news/231637/




Takara Legends and UW Computron:



Source: https://twitter.com/TF_pr

Has his optics been given a coat of light blue warmed eye paint?

I remember to some effect about kids(Masterforce) saying that they trusted Ginrai in a certain episode because of those same warm blue optics.

Wonderfest 2016


https://twitter.com/kudou4wd

https://twitter.com/Chohenken

Fellow Seibertronians Cyberpath, Logan 79 and Fenrir 72 have all helped us find the pictures we need for this news article providing you the best images of Takara Tranformers LG-35 Super Ginrai, Takara's version of Powermaster Optimus Prime.

We have stock images from Dengeki Hobby, some grey scale images from Wonderfest Summer 2016 and even comparisons to the Hasbro release.

There is a lot of retooling with the Takara version to the point where the base mode has a totally different look. The most obvious difference in vehicle mode is the cab while in robot mode it is the chest and feet. Speaking of the feet, while they may look off they are actually transformed correctly. It is meant to convey the look of the G1 toy. However, what is off is that those feet extend below the trailer panels that usually reach all the way down the leg in the toy and in the show. Let us know if you preffer this to the Hasbro version or if the Takara version is worth the import premium which has importers asking 95$ for him.

One last thing of note, in the Dengeki article, he is referred to as LG35 Thunderclap.
















Transformers Super God Masterforce Powermaster Optimus Prime (Super Ginrai) Gallery

UPDATE: A new 6 hour video from Dengeki Hobby reveals the titan master head of LG35 Super Ginrai, which had yet to be revealed. It is a miniature Optimus Prime head unlike the Orion Pax homage the Hasbro version sports. Plus they compared the two versions side by side.

aren't the feet mistransformed?...






(scrolls down to bottom of article)





NEVER MIND! the feet looks way more accurate and cooler.

Mechastrike wrote:NEVER MIND! the feet looks way more accurate and cooler.

But are they 90$ cooler?

I think they look bad and thats because the trailer panels dont extend down. It would look better if they did. But as it is, it just looks like Optimus is standing on boxes, like those idiots at halloween who think they are witty with their little people costumes.

Thunderclap huh? Is that foreshadowing a thunderclash repaint?

Please say yes.

That Optimus headmaster looks... pretty bad. Good thing there's a helmet; I'd pretty much just have the headmaster transformed all the time because GINRAI

The feet feel fine to me tbh.

Kurona wrote:That Optimus headmaster looks... pretty bad. Good thing there's a helmet; I'd pretty much just have the headmaster transformed all the time because GINRAI

The feet feel fine to me tbh.

Yeah they're not awful. They're just odd. Personally I don't mind he Hasbro one, it'll be the one I own, if I ever find but it I will toddy that thing is damn gorgeous.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!

As soon that the preorders are up, I shall preorder it with the power of a thousands suns!



Still, Hasbro's Powermaster version is SO different, it may be worth owning.... But only at the 30$CAN sale.

-Kanrabat- wrote::michaelbay: THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!

As soon that the preorders are up, I shall preorder it with the power of a thousands suns!



Still, Hasbro's Powermaster version is SO different, it may be worth owning.... But only at the 30$CAN sale.

They're up in most online shops. $90 US though. That's way too steep for me sadly for a toy

I think I'll get both, Powermaster Optimus Prime is my favorite version of Optimus Prime.

I already own:
2 original US versions.
The Black Japanese TRU exclusive Super Convoy.
An original 100% complete MITB of God Ginrai.
The Japanese reissue of God Ginrai.
The Hasbro reissue of God Ginrai as Powermaster Optimus Prime with Apex Armor.

So what's two more?

If anyone in the UK is interested in it; Kapow have reduced it's pre-order price right off the bat to that of just above a leader-class.
https://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/transformer ... inrai.html

Super Ginrai's arms and hands are new too.

That little Optimus Prime headmaster is pretty cute. Too bad it's not sold separately. That and Hasbro's Cerebros.

Cyberpath wrote:That little Optimus Prime headmaster is pretty cute. Too bad it's not sold separately, too. That and Hasbro's Cerebros.

Remember; we will be getting an Optimus Headmaster from the upcoming Voyager anyway.

Kurona wrote:Remember; we will be getting an Optimus Headmaster from the upcoming Voyager anyway.

Just want the head though. :)

another clear winner from takara

It really is amazing the extra effort put into Super Ginrai. And I'm even being swayed to Takara's Galvatron!! What the heck.

The feet on Super Ginrai look horrible

This is one that really is better looking than the Hasbro version. However, it's not twice the price better to me and I don't even have the TR version yet. I can get Blaster and PMOP for the price of this guy.

I'm getting Legends Blurr and Astrotrain and that's it so far. Mainly because I stupidly didn't preorder Scourge and Galvatron and now I regret it. I still want the TR version of each but I wanted the Legends versions as well. I also want the Legends deluxes that come with with little vehicles but the prices on those are a little higher than I'm comfortable with. I wish Takara would just release those separately.

william-james88 wrote:Fellow Seibertronians Cyberpath, Logan 79 and Fenrir 72 have all helped us find the pictures we need for this news article providing you the best images of Takara Tranformers LG-35 Super Ginrai, Takara's version of Powermaster Optimus Prime.

We have stock images from Dengeki Hobby, some grey scale images from Wonderfest Summer 2016 and even comparisons to the Hasbro release.

There is a lot of retooling with the Takara version to the point where the base mode has a totally different look. The most obvious difference in vehicle mode is the cab while in robot mode it is the chest and feet. Speaking of the feet, while they may look off they are actually transformed correctly. It is meant to convey the look of the G1 toy. However, what is off is that those feet extend below the trailer panels that usually reach all the way down the leg in the toy and in the show. Let us know if you preffer this to the Hasbro version or if the Takara version is worth the import premium which has importers asking 95$ for him.

One last thing of note, in the Dengeki article, he is referred to as LG35 Thunderclap.
















Transformers Super God Masterforce Powermaster Optimus Prime (Super Ginrai) Gallery

UPDATE: A new 6 hour video from Dengeki Hobby reveals the titan master head of LG35 Super Ginrai, which had yet to be revealed. It is a miniature Optimus Prime head unlike the Orion Pax homage the Hasbro version sports. Plus they compared the two versions side by side.

Oh. My. God.

So fucking sold. Seriously, this is amazing. I'll gladly pay 100 bucks for him. Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

Alpha Weltall wrote:This is one that really is better looking than the Hasbro version. However, it's not twice the price better to me and I don't even have the TR version yet. I can get Blaster and PMOP for the price of this guy.

I'm getting Legends Blurr and Astrotrain and that's it so far. Mainly because I stupidly didn't preorder Scourge and Galvatron and now I regret it. I still want the TR version of each but I wanted the Legends versions as well. I also want the Legends deluxes that come with with little vehicles but the prices on those are a little higher than I'm comfortable with. I wish Takara would just release those separately.

If it helps, Galvatron is still in-stock at HLJ:
http://hlj.com/product/TKT86848/Sci?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

And Scourge is still available for pre-order:
http://hlj.com/product/TKT86851/Sci?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

Cyberpath wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:This is one that really is better looking than the Hasbro version. However, it's not twice the price better to me and I don't even have the TR version yet. I can get Blaster and PMOP for the price of this guy.

I'm getting Legends Blurr and Astrotrain and that's it so far. Mainly because I stupidly didn't preorder Scourge and Galvatron and now I regret it. I still want the TR version of each but I wanted the Legends versions as well. I also want the Legends deluxes that come with with little vehicles but the prices on those are a little higher than I'm comfortable with. I wish Takara would just release those separately.

If it helps, Galvatron is still in-stock at HLJ:
http://hlj.com/product/TKT86848/Sci?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

And Scourge is still available for pre-order:
http://hlj.com/product/TKT86851/Sci?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

Thanks! I stopped looking after a few sites had them listed as sold out.

Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.

Worth it. It would be nice if Hasbro offered more than bottom of the barrel options. They would get more of my money.

Ironhidensh wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.

Worth it. It would be nice if Hasbro offered more than bottom of the barrel options. They would get more of my money.

I don't see how an extensive retool is a bottom of the barrel option. But then again nothing Hasbro does is good enough for you

Ironhidensh wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.

Worth it. It would be nice if Hasbro offered more than bottom of the barrel options. They would get more of my money.

Compared to the original version of the mold, Hasbro's retooling of Ultra Magnus into Powermaster Optimus Prime seems far more extensive than Takara's retooling of Powermaster Optimus Prime into Super Ginrai. In the former case, Hasbro retooled nearly the entirety of the mold itself from head to ankle, with barely any common aspects left between Magnus and Prime. But with the latter case, Takara merely changed the cab/inner torso, the outer torso, the forearms, the Titan Master, and the feet, along with two gun accessories, with virtually everything else left unaltered and identical in molding between Prime and Ginrai.

What's more is that Hasbro's figure is exactly what it was meant to be: An update of the Powermaster Optimus Prime design. Takara could have easily used the Hasbro version as is, since it is every bit as an update to the Super Ginrai design as it is an update to the Powermaster OP design, what with Super Ginrai and PMOP sharing the exact same original design in the 80's, with only their hands, smokestacks, and some of their colors differing between the two on a visual level.

For Takara's figure, however, the extra work they've done actually regresses the original intent behind Hasbro's figure, as the changed elements on Takara's figure no longer resemble as much of an update to the original design as Hasbro's figure, but now instead the changes more closely resemble the same original design with less updating to it. Sure, there's still the updates made to the mechanics of the figure via the implementation of modern day toy engineering, but in terms of aesthetics, the visual design has lost the original updated design manifested by the Hasbro figure, and has instead taken to more closely imitating the original design from 28 years ago in a vein similar to the Masterpiece line, but without any of the MP line's level of engineering.

In this regard, Takara's figure may have had more work put into it, but at the cost of contradicting the essential nature of the CHUG-style toylines. That is, taking the older character designs and updating them for the modern age. The MP line is what takes the original designs and replicates them into modern toy form, yet Takara has effectively put that strategy into this figure, as opposed to the more established strategy of the CHUG-style toylines, thereby partially undoing what was originally intended for this figure in the first place.

You got a very valid point here, Sarblade. Somewaht, the first surprise passed, I'm a bit disapointed by the Takara on second thought. It's just... well... the same. TOO MUCH the same. Honestly, the only thing I really don't like about the HAsbro version is the hollow arms and the accurate red fists.

I'm surprising myself, but on second thought, I think I'll go the Hasbro route. Those arms may be easy to mod with some shapeway upgrade kit down the line.

In other news, we now got an English summary for the events of that Legends comic that showed how the Headmasters and company got their Legends bodies:

In the year 2021, Fortress Maximus's Autobots clash with a returned Scorponok's Decepticons over a giant black hole that the Decepticon seeks to explode, hoping to destroy the Autobots and create plasma energy in one fell swoop. Accusing his nemesis of being mad with revenge, Fortress has his troops recover what explosives they can, only for Scorponok to detonate the rest with no concern for his own soldiers. Fortress sends Wheelie and their human friends to safety as the blast wave hits Autobots and Decepticons alike, shrinking their bodies into super deformed forms! An examination shows that being exposed to the exploding black holes has caused miniature black holes ("blackballs") to appear in their bodies, shrinking their mass and threatening to collapse the Autobots in on themselves if nothing is done.

The cassettes inside of Twincast prove to be unaffected and the Headmasters simply disconnect from their affected Transtectors, but the other Autobots are still in danger. Seeing no other option, Fortress has their heads removed and retrofitted into Headmasters as their bodies continue to shrink and eventually pop out of existence. In order to get everyone new bodies, he then suggests they visit the Legends Universe, recalling the creation of their comrades Roadbuster and Whirl. Having tracked the dimension's space-time coordinates from the two Wreckers' residual radiation, he sets out to travel there via solitarium straight away—because the battleship Maximus that makes up his body is also shrinking. As they depart, the Autobots wonder if the affected Decepticons have had the same idea, and indeed the Decepticon Headmasters have already reached the Legends Universe and struck a deal with Tera-Kura Co. scientist Tarantulas to make them new bodies. Furthermore, Tarantulas has his own scheme in mind, intending to use the Decepticons to conquer the world for himself!