Takara Tomy Transformers Robots in Disguise TAV07 Roadblock Image

griftimus prime wrote:looks cool. but why does he have target masters?

worldsgreatest wrote:This has been listed on Anime Export with the image for, lierally, months.

prjkt wrote:interesting... wouldn't the Scoop mould be out of style compared to the other RID figures?

Sabrblade wrote:For the record, the Japanese version of the new RID line will be called "Transformers: Adventure", explaining the "TAV" part of the ID numbers.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:For the record, the Japanese version of the new RID line will be called "Transformers: Adventure", explaining the "TAV" part of the ID numbers.

Speaking of which, what would HA stand for? There's a second line which contains the One-Step and Three-Steps, and an AoE Power Battler:

- HA01 Bumblebee (Three-Step)
- HA02 Grimlock (Three-Step)
- HA03 Sideswipe (One-Step)
- HA04 Prowl (AoE One-Step)
- HA05 Junkion (AoE Power Battler Junkheap)

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:For the record, the Japanese version of the new RID line will be called "Transformers: Adventure", explaining the "TAV" part of the ID numbers.

Speaking of which, what would HA stand for? There's a second line which contains the One-Step and Three-Steps, and an AoE Power Battler:

- HA01 Bumblebee (Three-Step)
- HA02 Grimlock (Three-Step)
- HA03 Sideswipe (One-Step)
- HA04 Prowl (AoE One-Step)
- HA05 Junkion (AoE Power Battler Junkheap)

Emerje wrote:Could also be another case of using a Japanese word (like Henkei). Maybe it's Henshin (to change) Adventures since they're using 1-Step and 3-Step Changers.

Anyway, the Scoop figure would make a better Cybertron/Galaxy Force Landmine/Guardshell than Roadblock. Then they could pass off his Targetmaster partners for Minicons.

Emerje

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

prjkt wrote:interesting... wouldn't the Scoop mould be out of style compared to the other RID figures?

He would be quite a bit. Then again, he won't be the first foreign mold for the line as we have:

- TAV09 Swoop (Animated mold predicted)
- TAV10 Snarl (Animated mold predicted)
- TAV11 Knock Out (Beast Hunters mold predicted, unreleased in Japan)
- TAV12 Dreadwing (Beast Hunters mold predicted, unreleased in Japan)

Eagerly awaiting the decos on all of them, especially for Knock Out.

Shuttershock wrote:Decent amount of merchandise for a guy who's dead and at most will be acting as a blue Jedi spirit mentor.

Sabrblade wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:Decent amount of merchandise for a guy who's dead and at most will be acting as a blue Jedi spirit mentor.

He'll be having his own (most possibly onscreen) adventure in the afterlife.

Shuttershock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:Decent amount of merchandise for a guy who's dead and at most will be acting as a blue Jedi spirit mentor.

He'll be having his own (most possibly onscreen) adventure in the afterlife.

Well that's kind of disappointing if it's true. Especially if it somehow results in him being reborn again.

Shuttershock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:Decent amount of merchandise for a guy who's dead and at most will be acting as a blue Jedi spirit mentor.

He'll be having his own (most possibly onscreen) adventure in the afterlife.

Well that's kind of disappointing if it's true. Especially if it somehow results in him being reborn again.

Sabrblade wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:Decent amount of merchandise for a guy who's dead and at most will be acting as a blue Jedi spirit mentor.

He'll be having his own (most possibly onscreen) adventure in the afterlife.

Well that's kind of disappointing if it's true. Especially if it somehow results in him being reborn again.

It's Peter Cullen voicing him. You know how he feels about Optimus staying dead. He'll be back at some point as Optimus Supreme.

prjkt wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:Decent amount of merchandise for a guy who's dead and at most will be acting as a blue Jedi spirit mentor.

He'll be having his own (most possibly onscreen) adventure in the afterlife.

Well that's kind of disappointing if it's true. Especially if it somehow results in him being reborn again.

This is the aligned continuity, he's already died and been reborn once before.

prjkt wrote:This is the aligned continuity, he's already died and been reborn once before.

Shuttershock wrote:Well I didn't discount that Optimus would be back, I just figured they'd wait until a new show came along (new continuity that is). If the stated story of RID is to have Bee as a leader in his own right, then it would only discredit him to bring back Prime.

As always time will make prophets or fools of each of us speculators, but it's a curious thought to consider with this ostensibly new approach.

Sabrblade wrote:

prjkt wrote:This is the aligned continuity, he's already died and been reborn once before.

When?

prjkt wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

prjkt wrote:This is the aligned continuity, he's already died and been reborn once before.

When?

Ok, maybe not exactly "died" but according to the Covenent of Primus he took himself into the Well of Allsparks, basically sacrificing everything he was to be reborn as one of the new Cybertronians. Only regained his memory was he received the Matrix, centuries later.

Sabrblade wrote:

prjkt wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

prjkt wrote:This is the aligned continuity, he's already died and been reborn once before.

When?

Ok, maybe not exactly "died" but according to the Covenent of Primus he took himself into the Well of Allsparks, basically sacrificing everything he was to be reborn as one of the new Cybertronians. Only regained his memory was he received the Matrix, centuries later.

Oh that. Right. Thought you meant something else.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:Thanks to the Polish retailer Merlin, we get a small in-package image of the Transformers Robots in Disguise 3-step Hyperchange Optimus Prime. The image also reveals what Optimus looks like in his robot mode and gives you a peek as to what his transformation is like. Previously, Hyperchange Optimus Prime was only seen in his vehicle mode.

crimsondeception wrote:Thunderhoof looks pretty cool, if there's a Warrior Class figure for him I might get it. Are all the Decepticons going to be animals though? Probably means we'll see Spittor sometime soon.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Well, so far all of them seem to be based on animals, though made humanoid. Yes, that would technically made them robotic furries... The Japanese releases of Knock Out and Dreadwing would fit kinda too, with their animal armor from the predicted Beast Hunters molds.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Well, so far all of them seem to be based on animals, though made humanoid. Yes, that would technically made them robotic furries... The Japanese releases of Knock Out and Dreadwing would fit kinda too, with their animal armor from the predicted Beast Hunters molds.

Excellent point, Jelze, I had not thought of that. That makes the current decepticons a certain evolved form of where the Prime toys were going

prjkt wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Well, so far all of them seem to be based on animals, though made humanoid. Yes, that would technically made them robotic furries... The Japanese releases of Knock Out and Dreadwing would fit kinda too, with their animal armor from the predicted Beast Hunters molds.

Excellent point, Jelze, I had not thought of that. That makes the current decepticons a certain evolved form of where the Prime toys were going

Don't you mean devolved?

Autobot032 wrote:I caved. I bought Grimlock, Steeljaw and Strongarm. Grimlock is A+, Steeljaw is actually quite nice and deserves a B+, while Strongarm is a mild C+ at best.

She's ridiculously hollow and looks awful in vehicle mode on the underside. (I realize no one looks at their figures in vehicle mode from the bottom, but you do need to retrieve her weapon from it for transformation purposes, so...) Just this giant gaping hollowness that uses plastic thin enough to allow light to shine through to some extent. Fortunately, aside from the ridiculous backpack, her robot mode is quite nice, which is why she received the + instead of -...

I normally don't have a problem with shellformers, especially when they're designed like she is (and her shell isn't really that terrible, neither is her kibble) but the hollowness and how much wasted space is left behind, egads.

Steeljaw is ridiculously light, but when you transform him just right, he's quite a nice looking fella, especially when sporting that Wolverine claw (which I would love TWO of).

Grimlock, though, wow. Dinobots are not my favorite, honestly. Never really have been, but he's a ROCK SOLID figure. Transformation is complex enough to keep you happy, easy enough to master and everything pegs in nice and solid in beast mode. (Robot mode is a different story. That leg design is just...no. No.) I'm only saddened by the fact he has no weapon to use, but the articulated mouth is AWESOME.

I have no desire to buy Douchy McDoucherson. Er, I mean Bumblebee. That smirking face of his just makes me want to slap it so hard. Repeatedly. Until he cries.

And now that I've seen the comparison photos a few posts above, I see why the toys work for me. The show models aren't anything to write home about, at least not in my book, but in plastic form, they seem to fit quite well with the FE/PRID/BH figures and it's nice to see a universal theme to them to make them cohesive. It has enough elements of Animated to keep those fans happy, and enough Prime elements to keep those fans happy.

In vehicle mode, I don't see how Steeljaw is anymore out of place than Breakdown or the Vehicons. Even Bumblebee looks like he stole a Vehicon's body as a costume, so these work for me quite a bit. I wasn't expecting to get into this line, but when I opened Steeljaw and he impressed me, I was all like "Dang it."

Autobot032 wrote:I caved. I bought Grimlock, Steeljaw and Strongarm. Grimlock is A+, Steeljaw is actually quite nice and deserves a B+, while Strongarm is a mild C+ at best.

She's ridiculously hollow and looks awful in vehicle mode on the underside. (I realize no one looks at their figures in vehicle mode from the bottom, but you do need to retrieve her weapon from it for transformation purposes, so...) Just this giant gaping hollowness that uses plastic thin enough to allow light to shine through to some extent. Fortunately, aside from the ridiculous backpack, her robot mode is quite nice, which is why she received the + instead of -...

I normally don't have a problem with shellformers, especially when they're designed like she is (and her shell isn't really that terrible, neither is her kibble) but the hollowness and how much wasted space is left behind, egads.

Steeljaw is ridiculously light, but when you transform him just right, he's quite a nice looking fella, especially when sporting that Wolverine claw (which I would love TWO of).

Grimlock, though, wow. Dinobots are not my favorite, honestly. Never really have been, but he's a ROCK SOLID figure. Transformation is complex enough to keep you happy, easy enough to master and everything pegs in nice and solid in beast mode. (Robot mode is a different story. That leg design is just...no. No.) I'm only saddened by the fact he has no weapon to use, but the articulated mouth is AWESOME.

I have no desire to buy Douchy McDoucherson. Er, I mean Bumblebee. That smirking face of his just makes me want to slap it so hard. Repeatedly. Until he cries.

And now that I've seen the comparison photos a few posts above, I see why the toys work for me. The show models aren't anything to write home about, at least not in my book, but in plastic form, they seem to fit quite well with the FE/PRID/BH figures and it's nice to see a universal theme to them to make them cohesive. It has enough elements of Animated to keep those fans happy, and enough Prime elements to keep those fans happy.

In vehicle mode, I don't see how Steeljaw is anymore out of place than Breakdown or the Vehicons. Even Bumblebee looks like he stole a Vehicon's body as a costume, so these work for me quite a bit. I wasn't expecting to get into this line, but when I opened Steeljaw and he impressed me, I was all like "Dang it."

Autobot032 wrote:I caved. I bought Grimlock, Steeljaw and Strongarm. Grimlock is A+, Steeljaw is actually quite nice and deserves a B+, while Strongarm is a mild C+ at best.

She's ridiculously hollow and looks awful in vehicle mode on the underside. (I realize no one looks at their figures in vehicle mode from the bottom, but you do need to retrieve her weapon from it for transformation purposes, so...) Just this giant gaping hollowness that uses plastic thin enough to allow light to shine through to some extent. Fortunately, aside from the ridiculous backpack, her robot mode is quite nice, which is why she received the + instead of -...

Shuttershock wrote:Here's a thought for your weapons dilemma:

1. Get Bee

2. Give his Sword to Grimlock before he hurts himself

3. Slay Bee and crown Grimlock Once and Future King

Shuttershock wrote:I agree, Grimlock is rock solid in both modes (the legs must peg better on mine). His Dino kibble is there, but doesn't feel as vestigial as other entries, and he feels chunky for his size.

Also, you can flip out his stumpy dino arms in robot mode to look like IDW Monstructor:

william-james88 wrote:You're referring to this right?



I don't find it that bad. It's not worse than other transformers when we look below, like this guy for instance:

Autobot032 wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:Here's a thought for your weapons dilemma:

1. Get Bee

2. Give his Sword to Grimlock before he hurts himself

3. Slay Bee and crown Grimlock Once and Future King

That sounds great in theory, but I just cannot stomach the thought of giving Hasbro $16.00 for that figure. If he was someone else, I could probably do it, but it's just not Bumblebee to me. He looks so douchey.

Shuttershock wrote:I agree, Grimlock is rock solid in both modes (the legs must peg better on mine). His Dino kibble is there, but doesn't feel as vestigial as other entries, and he feels chunky for his size.

Also, you can flip out his stumpy dino arms in robot mode to look like IDW Monstructor:

Mine has loosey goosey beast parts when forming the legs, which I've seen in video reviews, but the tabs don't secure themselves into the slots well enough to make it a really solid connection. I've seen video reviews where they shook the figure a bit and it showed that all the parts held fine, while mine will actually come apart in robot mode with a good shake.

The kibble size is nice, I must admit. He uses it very well to his advantage, and it impressed me that it steals most of the G1 transformation, but freshens it up enough to make it likeable.

The dino arms work for Monstructor, but Grimlock looks like that horrible Kayak commercial where the two guys are sharing a sweater to use the computer. I know, what's seen cannot be unseen. Trust me, I tried. lol

william-james88 wrote:You're referring to this right?



I don't find it that bad. It's not worse than other transformers when we look below, like this guy for instance:

Her? Yes. That's exactly it.
Him? I love Sentinel Prime. You no can pick on him.

He might be a shellformer, but his engineering is some of the best on a figure that I've seen in quite some time. He goes from boxy vehicle with a curved windshield to a pointy, hard edged humanoid form in robot mode. Pretty impressive how they incorporated the shell into the robot mode and hid everything from sight in vehicle mode. Ugly underneath, sure, but all of the parts go somewhere or do something. Strongarm literally has the windows and roof of her vehicle mode hanging off of her back like a basket full of sadness and fail.

Shuttershock wrote:All great thoughts. I agree that shellforming in and of itself isn't the worst, so long as it's not a hinderance/balance issue in robot mode. AoE Hound seems like the evolution of the Sentinel idea and is very satisfyingly kibble free.

That said, no one in the world can make me NOT love Thunderblast, backpack and all.




What's funny about Grimlock is that he's had so many molds through the years, all trying to get a good blend of robot to t-rex, and all with different results. Some have tiny tails with fat bodies (G1, Animated), some have fat tails with good legs (FOC) and some have head halves for feet (classics).

Lockdownhunter wrote:He looks better than his warrior class version

Sabrblade wrote:

Lockdownhunter wrote:He looks better than his warrior class version

Who does?

Optimum Supreme wrote:Really don't like the instructions being on the box, way to cheap out dudes (and I realize some older lines had some figs like this as well, but not on this size class).