Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime

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Via the YouTube channel for Takara Tomy, we get a promotional clip for three of their Transformers Adventure line figures: TED-06 Big Optimus Prime, the Japanese counterpart to Hyperchange Optimus; TAV-14 Ultra Magnus, of which you can see the Seibertron.com gallery here; TAV-13 Nemesis Prime, of which we also have a gallery. Check the clips out below!

Credit(s): Takara Tomy YouTube

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686346)
Posted by Va'al on May 16th, 2015 @ 2:10pm CDT

In addition to yesterday's promo video, and of course, the Seibertron.com galleries, fellow member chuckdawg1999 has also just shared with us a video review of two Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure toys: TAV-08 Gregevor (Greejeeber) and TAV-13 Nemesis Prime. The latter is the one we've covered already, but the former, an homage to the 2000 RID line Rollbar, is in fact a male redeco of Strongarm, which you can find here for comparison. Check out the embedded clip below!

Takara always seems to deliver unique repaints that homage niche characters from their market, and black Optimus Primes. Gregevor is one of those homages going back to the early 2000's RID character Rollbar. Nemesis Prime I guess could be said is a tribute to Scourge/Black Convoy from the same line; even though there have been many takes on the black Prime over the years. Both are worth a look if you're interested in well done repaints.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686348)
Posted by dragons on May 16th, 2015 @ 2:23pm CDT

Thanks for sharing I didn't bother watching I saw video of original figures before they where repainted don't need same
Video again

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686351)
Posted by Va'al on May 16th, 2015 @ 2:41pm CDT

dragons wrote:Thanks for sharing

You are more than welcome.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686368)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 16th, 2015 @ 3:39pm CDT

dragons wrote:Thanks for sharing I didn't bother watching I saw video of original figures before they where repainted don't need same
Video again

But you might have missed out on dancing girls at the end

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686395)
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 4:50pm CDT

Va'al wrote:
dragons wrote:Thanks for sharing

You are more than welcome.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
dragons wrote:Thanks for sharing I didn't bother watching I saw video of original figures before they where repainted don't need same
Video again

But you might have missed out on dancing girls at the end

I especially liked when they took their tops off. Oh my!

(o)(o)

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686417)
Posted by no-one on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:15pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Va'al wrote:
dragons wrote:Thanks for sharing

You are more than welcome.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
dragons wrote:Thanks for sharing I didn't bother watching I saw video of original figures before they where repainted don't need same
Video again

But you might have missed out on dancing girls at the end

I especially liked when they took their tops off. Oh my!

(o)(o)

Looks like you missed out guy. YouTube took it down and now only the edited version is available.

So scandalous :shock:

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686430)
Posted by Cobotron on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:40pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:(o)(o)

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686440)
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2015 @ 5:55pm CDT

Cobotron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:(o)(o)

Haha, glad you liked it, here are a few more:

National geographic:

（@ㅅ@）

Melissa McCarthy:

（。 ㅅ 。）

Jenny McCarthy:

（•_ㅅ_•）

The Rock:

[_._][_._]

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686450)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 16th, 2015 @ 6:06pm CDT

Chuck! Stop!
:evil:

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686492)
Posted by prjkt on May 16th, 2015 @ 7:16pm CDT

Well this thread just got interesting nice and quick.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686542)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on May 16th, 2015 @ 10:33pm CDT

Holy-crap...I hope they include those sound FX when I get UM and Nemesis just like those Japanese reviews.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686553)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2015 @ 11:07pm CDT

"And yes, you have to say it like that. GREH-GHEE-VOR."

No you don't. "Gregevor" is a bad Engrish transliteration of グリジバー, which Romanizes out to being "Gurijibaa", with the two I's both sounding like "ee". It is a portmanteau of "Green" and "Jeep" with a modified end, hence the longstanding transliteration of "Greejeeber" being the more accepted name since the Car Robots character of the same name was established back in the year 2000.

The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound. The V came from B and V being essentially the same sound in Japanese. So whoever transliterated グリジバー ("Gurijibaa") into "Gregevor" apparently didn't recognize the "Green Jeep" reference and gave us a more wonky name than the more likely intended "Greejeeber".

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686566)
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 16th, 2015 @ 11:38pm CDT

Exactly. I've already stated at these boards the same thing. The English text on the package for this toy is incorrect, if the aim was to represent "Green-Jeeper" (which was the originally intended name, similar to "Tankor", " Rot-or", or other proper nouns derived from adding the regular "er" to verb forms in order to make a "job noun").

Basically, the etymology, as it were, was " Green Jeep/Green-Jeeper/Greenjeeber" (ignoring the katakana and other romaji orthographic depictions, such as "gurujiiba", etc).

However, IF the original word WAS "Gregevor" (in English), then the Japanese (romaji) could be "gureijiiba".

What has (almost) happened then, is that, over time, they took an English term, converted it into Japanese katakana/,romaji, turned THAT back into katakana again, before finally turning it "back" into romaji/katakana.

It's a bit like how Takara have done the same with "convoy" (convoy/conboy), by first getting the name "right", then probably turning it back into katakana and back to romaji (or having no original romaji/English source to reference).

Hypothetically, this could happen to "Minerva":

Minerva/Mineruba/Minerba/Menorbar".

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686577)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on May 17th, 2015 @ 12:22am CDT

At this rate can we just call him Greg?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686579)
Posted by Cobotron on May 17th, 2015 @ 12:24am CDT

SW's SilverHammer wrote:At this rate can we just call him Greg?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686589)
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 17th, 2015 @ 1:05am CDT

SW's SilverHammer wrote:At this rate can we just call him Greg?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686898)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 17th, 2015 @ 9:03pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound.

I think you mean a soft "G" sound, right? When a G sounds like a "J" in English, as in the word "Gigantic," that's considered a soft use of G. Hard G is for sounds like the G in the word "Galactic."

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686900)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2015 @ 9:04pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound.

I think you mean a soft "G" sound, right? When a G sounds like a "J" in English, as in the word "Gigantic," that's considered a soft use of G. Hard G is for sounds like the G in the word "Galactic."

Argh! Why do I keep doing that!?! :BANG_HEAD:

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686928)
Posted by william-james88 on May 17th, 2015 @ 9:56pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound.

I think you mean a soft "G" sound, right? When a G sounds like a "J" in English, as in the word "Gigantic," that's considered a soft use of G. Hard G is for sounds like the G in the word "Galactic."
Argh! Why do I keep doing that!?!

Don't worry, we all have those moments. I actually wrote yesterday that Predaking was made of 6 members when I knew it was obviously just 5.

I also wrote in an exam when I was 16 (as part of a greater algebraic equation) that 2 times 3 was 5 :BANG_HEAD:

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686930)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 17th, 2015 @ 9:57pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound.

I think you mean a soft "G" sound, right? When a G sounds like a "J" in English, as in the word "Gigantic," that's considered a soft use of G. Hard G is for sounds like the G in the word "Galactic."
Argh! Why do I keep doing that!?!

Don't worry, we all have those moments. I actually wrote yesterday that Predaking was made of 6 members when I knew it was obviously just 5.

Lol I look stupid all the STINKIN TIME!
:-B

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686945)
Posted by Cobotron on May 17th, 2015 @ 10:24pm CDT

Silly wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound.

I think you mean a soft "G" sound, right? When a G sounds like a "J" in English, as in the word "Gigantic," that's considered a soft use of G. Hard G is for sounds like the G in the word "Galactic."
Argh! Why do I keep doing that!?!

Don't worry, we all have those moments. I actually wrote yesterday that Predaking was made of 6 members when I knew it was obviously just 5.

Lol I look stupid all the STINKIN TIME!

I'm realky bag att spellking.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686951)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 17th, 2015 @ 10:34pm CDT

Let's just call him "Greeper." It keeps the original idea for a portmanteau of "green" and "jeep", retains the syllabic flourish at the end, is easier to say in English, and resembles the word "creeper," which is an excellent name for a Decepticon character. Let's make this happen, people!

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1686968)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 17th, 2015 @ 11:28pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:"And yes, you have to say it like that. GREH-GHEE-VOR."

No you don't. "Gregevor" is a bad Engrish transliteration of グリジバー, which Romanizes out to being "Gurijibaa", with the two I's both sounding like "ee". It is a portmanteau of "Green" and "Jeep" with a modified end, hence the longstanding transliteration of "Greejeeber" being the more accepted name since the Car Robots character of the same name was established back in the year 2000.

The two E's in "Gregevor" are long "ee" sounds, and the second G is a hard G (or J) sound. The V came from B and V being essentially the same sound in Japanese. So whoever transliterated グリジバー ("Gurijibaa") into "Gregevor" apparently didn't recognize the "Green Jeep" reference and gave us a more wonky name than the more likely intended "Greejeeber".

That, and I was having fun knowing it would drive the translation obsessed crazy. Mission accomplished.

Cobotron wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:At this rate can we just call him Greg?

I just call it Steve, I tend to use that name a lot.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687014)
Posted by Primeultimus on May 18th, 2015 @ 7:26am CDT

TAV21 Transformers Adventures Optimus Prime. (Scan)

From Transformers Addicts Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687023)
Posted by monstrinhotron on May 18th, 2015 @ 7:58am CDT

Gregevor = Greg + Trevor perhaps. No idea where that might come from though

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687026)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 18th, 2015 @ 8:06am CDT

We already know of him:

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687039)
Posted by prjkt on May 18th, 2015 @ 8:51am CDT

phonetic translation is more like "Greejeeber" but actual romanisation of the words is up to whoever's translating at the time

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687041)
Posted by Primeultimus on May 18th, 2015 @ 8:52am CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:We already know of him:

I was posting a clearer scan

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687047)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2015 @ 8:59am CDT

This is basically the new "Minelba/Minerva".

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687049)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:02am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:This is basically the new "Minelba/Minerva".

Except for the fact "Minerva" has a base in the Latin language. "Gregevor", on the other hand, does not.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687055)
Posted by william-james88 on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:22am CDT

I thought this name was just greenjeep said in a japanese accent. Isn't it that?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687058)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:24am CDT

william-james88 wrote:I thought this name was just greenjeep said in a japanese accent. Isn't it that?

Drop the N in "green", change the P to B in "jeep", and add an "er" on the end.

"Greejeeber" :-B

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687060)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:27am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I thought this name was just greenjeep said in a japanese accent. Isn't it that?
Drop the N in "green", change the P to B in "jeep", and add an "er" on the end.

"Greejeeber"

"Green Jeep" is indeed the genesis of "Gree-Jee-ber", but Japan really likes to turn English into nonsense words as shown above. :lol:

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687061)
Posted by william-james88 on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:27am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I thought this name was just greenjeep said in a japanese accent. Isn't it that?
Drop the N in "green", change the P to B in "jeep", and add an "er" on the end.

"Greejeeber"

Yeah, exactly as I said then: greenjeep spelled phonetically when said in a japanese accent

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687064)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:31am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I thought this name was just greenjeep said in a japanese accent. Isn't it that?
Drop the N in "green", change the P to B in "jeep", and add an "er" on the end.

"Greejeeber"

Yeah, exactly as I said then: greenjeep spelled phonetically when said in a japanese accent

"Japanese accent" doesn't do that to English words. Like JelZe said, it's the two words respelled nonsensically.

"Green Jeep" with a Japanese accent would be like "Guriin Jiipu"

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687065)
Posted by Cobotron on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:32am CDT

Hey guys don't all Japanese words have a vowel sound between every consonant sound, and always end in a vowel sound?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687067)
Posted by william-james88 on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:34am CDT

Cobotron wrote:Hey guys don't all Japanese words have a vowel sound between every consonant sound, and always end in a vowel sound?

Yeah, sabr corrected me above.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687069)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:38am CDT

Cobotron wrote:Hey guys don't all Japanese words have a vowel sound between every consonant sound, and always end in a vowel sound?

Not all.

The letter ん or ン is like the letter N without a vowel and is used to conclude a syllable, like the N in "Convoy" (コンボイ Konboi).

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687072)
Posted by william-james88 on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:42am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Hey guys don't all Japanese words have a vowel sound between every consonant sound, and always end in a vowel sound?
Not all.

The letter ん or ン is like the letter N without a vowel and is used to conclude a syllable, like the N in "Convoy" (コンボイ Konboi).

Sounds like something Flavor Flave would say: Con Boiiiiiii!

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687074)
Posted by Cobotron on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:45am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Hey guys don't all Japanese words have a vowel sound between every consonant sound, and always end in a vowel sound?
Not all.

The letter ん or ン is like the letter N without a vowel and is used to conclude a syllable, like the N in "Convoy" (コンボイ Konboi).

Sounds like something Flavor Flave would say: Con Boiiiiiii!

Or the N in Poke Mon?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687075)
Posted by shajaki on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:47am CDT

monstrinhotron wrote:Gregevor = Greg + Trevor perhaps. No idea where that might come from though

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687078)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:53am CDT

Cobotron wrote:Or the N in Poke Mon?

Precisely.

ポケモン (Pokemon)

Or in "Megatron" (メガトロン Megatoron)

'Course, it's the only letter that caps off a syllable without a vowel sound. Everything else has a vowel sound attached it.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687079)
Posted by Cobotron on May 18th, 2015 @ 9:54am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Or the N in Poke Mon?
Precisely.

ポケモン (Pokemon)

Or in "Megatron" (メガトロン Megatoron)

'Course, it's the only letter that caps off a syllable without a vowel sound. Everything else has a vowel sound attached it.

Thanks Professor!

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687087)
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 18th, 2015 @ 10:06am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I thought this name was just greenjeep said in a japanese accent. Isn't it that?
Drop the N in "green", change the P to B in "jeep", and add an "er" on the end.

"Greejeeber"

Yeah, exactly as I said then: greenjeep spelled phonetically when said in a japanese accent

Not quite. The term comes from, as I've stated previously, the affixation of the suffix "er" to verb forms to create a noun. Usually, we do this with action verbs to denote an "agent" (one who does something) in a construction. Examples include "runner", "thinker", "gunner", etc.

In toy names, similar, or different aspects of morphology have been used to create names such as " Tankor", "Thrustor", "Ro-Tor", "Ground Shaker " and "Green-Jeeper". This was then affected by the the phonological aspect of (assimilation?), where the bilabial plosives, /p/ and /b/ can be interchanged in some utterances. Japanese learners, by virtue of the limited phonemic range of their L1, cannot always comprehend these sounds, resulting in "jeeBA".

Relatedly, "green Jeep" would be pronounced "guriinu jiipu" ("goo-ree-noo Jee-poo") , and not "jiipa".

Hope this helps.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687090)
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 18th, 2015 @ 10:13am CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:This is basically the new "Minelba/Minerva".

Except for the fact "Minerva" has a base in the Latin language. "Gregevor", on the other hand, does not.

No, but this is a romaji transcription of a katakana term, so it is similar in that someone at Takara converted an unknown katakana word (back) into romaji. In both cases, all the staff had to do was check online or a dictionary for help.

Takara is to English, what Hasbro is to stock photography/posing toys.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687091)
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 18th, 2015 @ 10:19am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Or the N in Poke Mon?
Precisely.

ポケモン (Pokemon)

Or in "Megatron" (メガトロン Megatoron)

'Course, it's the only letter that caps off a syllable without a vowel sound. Everything else has a vowel sound attached it.

To add to the confusion, the sound is interchangeable with /m/ (as an end sound). For example, there is a station in Chiba with two romaji signs, showing "Kahin Makuhari" and "KahiM Makuhari" next to each other.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687099)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 18th, 2015 @ 10:33am CDT

primalxconvoy wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Or the N in Poke Mon?
Precisely.

ポケモン (Pokemon)

Or in "Megatron" (メガトロン Megatoron)

'Course, it's the only letter that caps off a syllable without a vowel sound. Everything else has a vowel sound attached it.

To add to the confusion, the sound is interchangeable with /m/ (as an end sound). For example, there is a station in Chiba with two romaji signs, showing "Kahin Makuhari" and "KahiM Makuhari" next to each other.

I think that has more to do with the fact that "n" can glide into an "m" when directly followed by any "m"-kana, ハンマー (hanma for "hammer" for instance. Also, at least the "h"-kana with either the dakuten or handakuten can make an "n" turn into an "m": コンピュータ (konpyūta) for "Computer" or サンバ (sanba) for "Samba".

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687101)
Posted by primalxconvoy on May 18th, 2015 @ 10:40am CDT

The kana for mu, む/ム, was originally used for the n sound as well, while ん was originally a hentaigana used for both n and mu. In the 1900 Japanese script reforms, hentaigana were officially declared obsolete, and ん was officially declared a kana to represent the n sound.

- http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_(kana)

I think it was just the obsolete form of katakana.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687384)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 18th, 2015 @ 10:47pm CDT

So that giant Prime appears to be based off those animation stills we saw. Too bad it doesn't come with a weapon all its own. I also find it funny that one of its features is a sliding panel for the QR code.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure Promo Clips - Big Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime (1687394)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 18th, 2015 @ 11:17pm CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So that giant Prime appears to be based off those animation stills we saw. Too bad it doesn't come with a weapon all its own. I also find it funny that one of its features is a sliding panel for the QR code.

Yeah they thought ahead! :APPLAUSE:

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