Studio Series Voyager Wave 4 with Tattooed Starscream Found at Canadian Retail

You Canadians always get the best things!

ZeroWolf wrote:You Canadians always get the best things!

Yeah! Why is that? I mean, I’m pretty sure Hasbro’s main headquarters is in Rhode Island, why aren’t they the first?

Just found out that Berserker and Crowbar's heads can't be swapped without modification. Crowbar's ball joint neck is too small for Berserker's head, so there goes the plan of doing a headswap when I get Crankcase.

Decepticon Stryker wrote:Just found out that Berserker and Crowbar's heads can't be swapped without modification. Crowbar's ball joint neck is too small for Berserker's head, so there goes the plan of doing a headswap when I get Crankcase.

Why would you bother? As far as I can tell, the only difference between Crankcase and Berserker's movie models is the later has a red X on his chest. If you already have a second Berserker for the head, couldn't you just paint over the X and be done with it? Cause Hasbro's SS Crankcase is a joke.

Spider5800 wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:Just found out that Berserker and Crowbar's heads can't be swapped without modification. Crowbar's ball joint neck is too small for Berserker's head, so there goes the plan of doing a headswap when I get Crankcase.

Why would you bother? As far as I can tell, the only difference between Crankcase and Berserker's movie models is the later has a red X on his chest. If you already have a second Berserker for the head, couldn't you just paint over the X and be done with it? Cause Hasbro's SS Crankcase is a joke.

They also have different types of legs, also, Crankcase has longer dreads

Ig89ninja wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:You Canadians always get the best things!

Yeah! Why is that? I mean, I’m pretty sure Hasbro’s main headquarters is in Rhode Island, why aren’t they the first?

Their headquarters isn’t a warehouse dude.their products aren’t located in Rhode Island.

Spider5800 wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:Just found out that Berserker and Crowbar's heads can't be swapped without modification. Crowbar's ball joint neck is too small for Berserker's head, so there goes the plan of doing a headswap when I get Crankcase.

Why would you bother? As far as I can tell, the only difference between Crankcase and Berserker's movie models is the later has a red X on his chest. If you already have a second Berserker for the head, couldn't you just paint over the X and be done with it? Cause Hasbro's SS Crankcase is a joke.

It's because I like SS Crankcase's deco better than just Berserker without an X.

Alright, so now that all the news has calmed now, I feel safe to put my thoughts when there won't be more announcements every other hour.

Bonecrusher, Scrapmetal, and Shatter are definite buys for me, all three look great. I already talked about Bonecrusher, Scrapmetal looks really accurate to the concept art and I'm happy he exists, and Shatter's alt mode looks amazing. Rampage is a verrry tentative maybe. The design is growing on me, and I like the red-orange color, but I'd need a new name for him as the name Rampage to me is and always will be belonging to a crab/tank-cannibal man.

Devastator is not something I want, nor something I particularly like, but I'm glad he exists for those that do want him, and I'm glad it means good figures of all these insane Constructicon designs. I'm 100% on board for Hightower and the possible/probable Overload, although I still think a Deluxe Hightower like some people are speculating is too small. I'm also glad Cogman is coming for obvious availability reasons, although I already have the TLK one so I don't need to buy him again.

Now then, on to the real topic I want to talk about: the mysteries of the unrevealed figures. Shatter's reveal has solved the identity of the Deluxe Character B from the Takara listings, so that's taken care of. However, using what we have confirmed with Hasbro's number system, SS-31, SS-34, and SS-38 are all unknown. One of those has to be DotM Megatron, and while he technically could fit in as any of them, I think that he's most likely SS-34 since he was shown with Jetfire and that would seem to insinuate that he's in the same wave as him unless otherwise specified. If he isn't, then he's in a wave with only one new figure in-between releases we already know about (either between Crankcase and Bonecrusher or between Rampage and Cogman). SS-38 could possibly be another Constructicon, as we know there are 4 more that have yet to be officially shown and that one is Hightower, but whichever one it is would have to be a Voyager figure included in the same wave as Rampage, or a Leader in a one-new-figure wave. Other than those possibilities though, these numbers belong to figures we have yet to find out about, from official sources or leaks, and can't be Deluxe sized unless they're exclusives. That's pretty intriguing.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Now then, on to the real topic I want to talk about: the mysteries of the unrevealed figures. Shatter's reveal has solved the identity of the Deluxe Character B from the Takara listings, so that's taken care of. However, using what we have confirmed with Hasbro's number system, SS-31, SS-34, and SS-38 are all unknown. One of those has to be DotM Megatron, and while he technically could fit in as any of them, I think that he's most likely SS-34 since he was shown with Jetfire and that would seem to insinuate that he's in the same wave as him unless otherwise specified. If he isn't, then he's in a wave with only one new figure in-between releases we already know about (either between Crankcase and Bonecrusher or between Rampage and Cogman). SS-38 could possibly be another Constructicon, as we know there are 4 more that have yet to be officially shown and that one is Hightower, but whichever one it is would have to be a Voyager figure included in the same wave as Rampage, or a Leader in a one-new-figure wave. Other than those possibilities though, these numbers belong to figures we have yet to find out about, from official sources or leaks, and can't be Deluxe sized unless they're exclusives. That's pretty intriguing.

Hasbro does not use "SS-##", they just use numbers. Just saying

Speaking of which, let's run down listed characters that don't have either ID yet:

No TakaraTomy ID
40 Shatter
42 Constructicon Long Haul

No Hasbro ID
SS-27 Megatron
SS-30 Optimus Prime (yes, there's a third one)

No ID at all
Autobot Dino

31, 34 and 38 are open for Hasbro, SS-29, SS-34 and up for TakaraTomy. It all fits.

What about non exclusive drift and hightower?

william-james88 wrote:What about non exclusive drift and hightower?

Is there a non-exclusive Drift? I only know about the set with the baby Dinobots. And good call about Hightower.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Hasbro does not use "SS-##", they just use numbers. Just saying

That I just forgot as I started using the SS's after the Takara listings leaked, whoops.

JelZe Goldrabbit wrote: Speaking of which, let's run down listed characters that don't have either ID yet:

No Hasbro ID
SS-27 Megatron
SS-30 Optimus Prime (yes, there's a third one)

No ID at all
Autobot Dino

william-james88 wrote:What about non exclusive drift and hightower?

I also legitimately forgot about the third Optimus because I was annoyed there were three of them according to that leak and I tried to ignore that fact, but I did mention Megatron and Hightower. I don't think it would be the third OP though, that would be two OP releases in successive waves. Retail Drift and Dino I purposefully did not mention though, and I kinda stated why but I guess I'll point it out in more detail. Hasbro's numbering goes in order of both release date AND size class for each figure, with the numbers for exclusives seemingly being designated solely by release date. That's why when Wave 1 came out, all the numbers were in order, as they got released fairly close together and in order of size class. I assume that according to this, the 26-30 Deluxe wave, 31-32 Voyager wave, and assumed 34-35 Leader wave will get released about the same time, especially given their showing-off of Op and Jetfire combining. If 31 is Drift or Dino, then they either have to be part of the 26-29 wave, making it a wave of Deluxes with SIX unique figures, or they have to be an exclusive. We know because of the Amazon listings that Dino and that particular Drift are retail figures, so neither of them can be 31. Same thing with 34, if it isn't DotM Megatron for some reason. For it to be either of them, they would have to be exclusives again, or there would have to be a Deluxe wave in-between the announced 26-29 and 39-41 waves that would only include 1 new figure. We know from the Con panels that Hasbro considers the 26-29 wave to be Wave 1 for SS in 2019 and the 39-41 wave to be Wave 2, so there can't be non-exclusive Deluxes crammed in the middle.

The only possible spot where Dino or Drift could fit is as 38, and if that were the case, they would have to be a part of the Cogman-Shatter-Scrapmetal wave. If they are though, then it would make no sense for them to not have been shown with the rest of the new figures, and it would be a weird outlier compared to every other SS Deluxe wave, as every other Deluxe wave had all it's contents revealed at once.

Therefore, logically, Drift and Dino cannot be 31, 34, or 38, unless one or both of them are exclusives, and we already know that they aren't due to the Amazon leaks that revealed them in the first place. The only exception to this would be if Hasbro decided to treat one wave of Deluxes completely differently to the 5 other Deluxe waves in the line in terms of how they were revealed.

Thanks to our usual Weibo source TF-Factory, we have news the backs of the packagings have been revealed for the upcoming Studio Series deluxe class figures Barricade, Sideswipe, and World War II Bumblebee! These figures were revealed not too long ago, and feature a Movie 1 accurate Barricade, complete with wheel mace weapon and some Masterpiece inspired design touches, a Dark of the Moon accurate Sideswipe in his convertible Stingray mode complete with swords and blasters, and a new World War II Bumblebee figure based on his flashback scene from The Last Knight, though the new figure itself is not entirely accurate to either the movie or the concept art.

The other 2 figures from this wave, Clunker Bumblebee and Crankcase, were not included in the packaging images.

You can check out the packaging images below, and let us know what you think of these figures in the comments section below!

Of note, those are the backs of the European packaging as evidenced by the German.

Thanks to Youtube reviewerTFA1024 - The Transformers Addict, we have a new video review to share with you today, this time for the newly released Rebekahs Garage Bumblebee set! This set features another use of the original Studio Series 1976 Camaro Bumblebee figure, minus some paint apps in the feet and car mode, but now with a bunch of customizable parts and a crap load of stickers to decorate your figure to your specifications! It also comes with a figurine of Charlie from the new Bumblebee movie, albeit with a different hair style.

This figure is currently available for Pre-order on Entertainment Earth for $29.99, and is due out next month.

Check out the video review below, and let us know if you intend to pick this figure up in the comments section below!

I still plan on getting these 3. Barricade is obviously gonna be in the movie one display, Sideswipe was a favorite of mine in the RotF line, so getting a figure that can stand is nice, and I think the new Bee might go to my Generations display to serve as Bulkhead

Ig89ninja wrote:

Spider5800 wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:Just found out that Berserker and Crowbar's heads can't be swapped without modification. Crowbar's ball joint neck is too small for Berserker's head, so there goes the plan of doing a headswap when I get Crankcase.

Why would you bother? As far as I can tell, the only difference between Crankcase and Berserker's movie models is the later has a red X on his chest. If you already have a second Berserker for the head, couldn't you just paint over the X and be done with it? Cause Hasbro's SS Crankcase is a joke.

They also have different types of legs, also, Crankcase has longer dreads

They're literally the same character model, just a few minor pieces and color differences between them.



https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crankcase_(DOTM)
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Berserker

Are you thinking of Crowbar, who has the longer dreads (and whose toy they are using to make Crankcase, for some reason)?



https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crowbar

What really confuses me is, there IS a character who has the same character model as Crowbar, Dreadbot from TLK. That would require some remolding for the vehicle parts, but it would make a heck of a lot more sense than trying to make him Crankcase.

Spider5800 wrote:

Ig89ninja wrote:

Spider5800 wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:Just found out that Berserker and Crowbar's heads can't be swapped without modification. Crowbar's ball joint neck is too small for Berserker's head, so there goes the plan of doing a headswap when I get Crankcase.

Why would you bother? As far as I can tell, the only difference between Crankcase and Berserker's movie models is the later has a red X on his chest. If you already have a second Berserker for the head, couldn't you just paint over the X and be done with it? Cause Hasbro's SS Crankcase is a joke.

They also have different types of legs, also, Crankcase has longer dreads

They're literally the same character model, just a few minor pieces and color differences between them.



https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crankcase_(DOTM)
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Berserker

Are you thinking of Crowbar, who has the longer dreads (and whose toy they are using to make Crankcase, for some reason)?



https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crowbar

What really confuses me is, there IS a character who has the same character model as Crowbar, Dreadbot from TLK. That would require some remolding for the vehicle parts, but it would make a heck of a lot more sense than trying to make him Crankcase.

Crap, I WAS thinking about Crowbar, stupid “C” names!

Double posted by mistake

Ig89ninja wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:You Canadians always get the best things!

Yeah! Why is that? I mean, I’m pretty sure Hasbro’s main headquarters is in Rhode Island, why aren’t they the first?

They were the first, Hasbro got them first and sold them to the US first. We wrote an article about it:

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... hop/42294/

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:What about non exclusive drift and hightower?

Is there a non-exclusive Drift?

Yes

https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07DJYJJML ... rtron0c-22?tag=seibertron0c-22&

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crankcase_(DOTM)
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Berserker
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crowbar

Yeah.... I don't mean to be racist, but all those 'cons look alike to me.

Clearly some people in charge wanted to make a Predator (Yautja) / Transformer hybrid. And they were so pleased with themselves, that they repeated it twice more.

IIRC the final movie models of the Dreads had the same bodies (Hatchet aside obviously) but with different heads. The concept art gave them subtle differences in bodies.

I'll probably just get Berserker and Crowbar, the decos match on them well enough.

So, I was more into this toy of WWII Bee until I saw his chest plate just sorta chilling under the car... is that supposed to be something? Minesweeper or tranny armor?

I'll wait till toyworld releases their take on ww2 bee and bulldog

Dang boi he thicc

@Blitzwing hahahaha

I like the tank with the treads all over.

Flashwave wrote:So, I was more into this toy of WWII Bee until I saw his chest plate just sorta chilling under the car... is that supposed to be something? Minesweeper or tranny armor?

I don't know what that's supposed to be, but that's not his chest, it's the back of his feet




compare the ridges on the sides of it to the ridges on the sides of his feet and you can see the rounded corner on his heels.



Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Flashwave wrote:So, I was more into this toy of WWII Bee until I saw his chest plate just sorta chilling under the car... is that supposed to be something? Minesweeper or tranny armor?

I don't know what that's supposed to be, but that's not his chest, it's the back of his feet

Emerje

For what they are, Bayformers MUST cheat. It's not a new thing and they have no choice.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Flashwave wrote:So, I was more into this toy of WWII Bee until I saw his chest plate just sorta chilling under the car... is that supposed to be something? Minesweeper or tranny armor?

I don't know what that's supposed to be, but that's not his chest, it's the back of his feet

Emerje

For what they are, Bayformers MUST cheat. It's not a new thing and they have no choice.

We don't usually see that level of cheating outside of jets. Most land vehicles tend to be a little cleaner underneath. It's like they needed to give him a bit of height so they made big feet that couldn't fit underneath properly.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:We don't usually see that level of cheating outside of jets. Most land vehicles tend to be a little cleaner underneath. It's like they needed to give him a bit of height so they made big feet that couldn't fit underneath properly.

Emerje

Oh. Now I see what you were talking about.
Ew.
They could have at least tried to hide it as a bumper.

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Flashwave wrote:So, I was more into this toy of WWII Bee until I saw his chest plate just sorta chilling under the car... is that supposed to be something? Minesweeper or tranny armor?

I don't know what that's supposed to be, but that's not his chest, it's the back of his feet

Emerje

For what they are, Bayformers MUST cheat. It's not a new thing and they have no choice.

We don't usually see that level of cheating outside of jets. Most land vehicles tend to be a little cleaner underneath. It's like they needed to give him a bit of height so they made big feet that couldn't fit underneath properly.

Emerje

I've taken a look at some images of the vehicle he's based on, the Humber Light Reconnaissance Car, and at least one liberty is taken, with the chassis or suspension sticking out a bit too far underneath. All for the sake of heels I suppose.

I still dont see how thats the back of his feet. I dont doubt anyone, I just dont see what others are seeing as easily.

Taiwanese reviewer Kevin Liu got his hands on a Transfomers Studio Series 22 deluxe Dropkick. In the video, we can view the transformation of a helicopter into a robot. While Dropkick is a triple changer in the film, the toy only converts into a helicopter. And while there is a Studio Series Shatter coming out which only has a car mode, we are currently unaware of any further releases of either Dropkick with a car alt mode or Shatter with a jet alt mode. This toy comes from the final wave of the wave 4 of the Studio Series line and should be at retail soon. The fullw ave contents are below and as you can see, it will not be hard to find Dropkick.

DELUXE JAZZ x1
DELUXE BUMBLEBEE x2
DELUXE RATCHET x1
DELUXE DROPKICK x3
DELUXE KSI SENTRY x1

with that really light blue almost white he makes a good battleslash

Thought I'd share a few pictures of Shadow Raider and Lockdown with parts swapped so you end up with Blazing Lockdown and Night Ops Lockdown (or whatever names you want to call them).

Very nice! Still a shame about no gun face but they look very good.

I got Shadow Raider yesterday and I love it. I'm definitely grabbing Lockdown next time I see him. Just wish deluxes weren't $20 each so I army building would be easier on my wallet.

Decepticon Stryker wrote:I got Shadow Raider yesterday and I love it. I'm definitely grabbing Lockdown next time I see him. Just wish deluxes weren't $20 each so I army building would be easier on my wallet.

Yeah, why the increase from $15-16 dollars?

Ig89ninja wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:I got Shadow Raider yesterday and I love it. I'm definitely grabbing Lockdown next time I see him. Just wish deluxes weren't $20 each so I army building would be easier on my wallet.

Yeah, why the increase from $15-16 dollars?

Probably because most of the Studio Series figures are really really good. And also inflation and other economic stuff which I don't understand because I suck at math

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Ig89ninja wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:I got Shadow Raider yesterday and I love it. I'm definitely grabbing Lockdown next time I see him. Just wish deluxes weren't $20 each so I army building would be easier on my wallet.

Yeah, why the increase from $15-16 dollars?

Probably because most of the Studio Series figures are really really good. And also inflation and other economic stuff which I don't understand because I suck at math

It isn't necessarily a price increase now, TLK deluxes were at $20 MSRP as well.

Dropkick needed to be much darker blue, but overall he looks pretty good! I'm hoping we get a muscle car version of him eventually though. and a Jet Shatter. And a Blitzwing

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Ig89ninja wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:I got Shadow Raider yesterday and I love it. I'm definitely grabbing Lockdown next time I see him. Just wish deluxes weren't $20 each so I army building would be easier on my wallet.

Yeah, why the increase from $15-16 dollars?

Probably because most of the Studio Series figures are really really good. And also inflation and other economic stuff which I don't understand because I suck at math

But the prime wars trilogy figures are still that price!

Ig89ninja wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Ig89ninja wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:I got Shadow Raider yesterday and I love it. I'm definitely grabbing Lockdown next time I see him. Just wish deluxes weren't $20 each so I army building would be easier on my wallet.

Yeah, why the increase from $15-16 dollars?

Probably because most of the Studio Series figures are really really good. And also inflation and other economic stuff which I don't understand because I suck at math

But the prime wars trilogy figures are still that price!

Probably Licensing, Movie toys have to pay to look like real vehicles and if its anything like past lines, Paramount gets a slice of the pie too. Although my local Walmarts just rollback'd their Studio figures to 16.85

Flashwave wrote:

Ig89ninja wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Ig89ninja wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:I got Shadow Raider yesterday and I love it. I'm definitely grabbing Lockdown next time I see him. Just wish deluxes weren't $20 each so I army building would be easier on my wallet.

Yeah, why the increase from $15-16 dollars?

Probably because most of the Studio Series figures are really really good. And also inflation and other economic stuff which I don't understand because I suck at math

But the prime wars trilogy figures are still that price!

Probably Licensing, Movie toys have to pay to look like real vehicles and if its anything like past lines, Paramount gets a slice of the pie too. Although my local Walmarts just rollback'd their Studio figures to 16.85

Movie, RotF, DotM were all level with other contemporary lines, licensed or not. Plus, the Bumblebee Movie toys actually has two licenses for vehicles: the Chevrolet Camaro and the Volkswagen Beetle, both for the titular character. While true that the Studio Series has the most licenses of any line, the price hike started with TLK.

What may be a factor is the desire to make a clearer distinction between "collector-grade" and "regular toy" lines, with the former having a slightly higher price tag.

Huh, Dropkick looks like Battletrap. I kinda like it.

Speaking of the Bumblebee movie, have we heard anything else about that 2-pack with Volkswagen 'Bee and TLK 'Bee? Never got the TLK one, Volkswagen 'Bee has started popping up in stores in my area and I've been debating if I want to pick him up now or wait for the 2-pack, but I can't find anything about it.

Dropkick being a deluxe is a damn shame. If it were a voyager or leader it would be an automatic buy. But deluxe is an automatic pass. It needs to be a voyager to go with Generations Whirl. Whatever!

Aimless Misfire wrote:Dropkick being a deluxe is a damn shame. If it were a voyager or leader it would be an automatic buy. But deluxe is an automatic pass. It needs to be a voyager to go with Generations Whirl. Whatever!

It needs to be a deluxe to go with Studio Series Bee.

Aimless Misfire wrote:Dropkick being a deluxe is a damn shame. If it were a voyager or leader it would be an automatic buy. But deluxe is an automatic pass. It needs to be a voyager to go with Generations Whirl. Whatever!

Why would it need to be a voyager? Or even match up to Whirl... Is there a connection I'm missing?

ZeroWolf wrote:

Aimless Misfire wrote:Dropkick being a deluxe is a damn shame. If it were a voyager or leader it would be an automatic buy. But deluxe is an automatic pass. It needs to be a voyager to go with Generations Whirl. Whatever!

Why would it need to be a voyager? Or even match up to Whirl... Is there a connection I'm missing?

I mean, he's a SuperCobra, which isn't a huge helicopter, but its certainly a lot bigger than a VW Beetle.

Then again, he also turns into a muscle car, which would only be a LITTLE bigger, so maybe they just got the robot modes close enough and didn't really worry about vehicle accuracy.

No idea what the Whirl connection is though, does he also have a toy that turns into a SuperCobra, maybe?

Spider5800 wrote:didn't really worry about vehicle accuracy.

Hasbro in a nutshell, amiright?