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Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector

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Thursday, April 23rd, 2009 3:10PM CDT

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Well, it's nearing the end of April and already several collectors are looking to stretch their funds out as long as they can. The Universe line has ended with the release of Darkwind and Countdown and the Animated line is teetering between ending, delayed, or strung out depending on who you listen to. The ROTF Movie airs in just over 2 months and that line will be in full swing in one month.

But who cares about that stuff eh? Sure there are lovers and haters of those lines, but that ain't the thread topic is it? No my friends, this my friends isn't the year of the movie figs, not even the year of the 25th anniversary; this is the year of the collector.

What is a collector? By definition a collector is someone who gathers and hordes related items; in this case Transformers. It doesn't matter if you have 5, 50 or 500 Transformers; you my friend are a collector. Of course those with 500 might be more interested in reading this article than those with 5, but why not read it anyways to see how addicted some of us are? Then you can look at you wallet and be thankful.

A few days into the year; info started coming out about the bread and butter exclusives to a collector; a set that is always creative and well thought out, even though the theme or individual figures might not appeal: and that would be the Botcon set of 2009. "For one young Autobot..." is said and rumors and theories started flying. Not one Seibertronian theorized Kup and the Autobot Elite Guard, although as time went on the Wreckers were mentioned thanks to a lovely red herring by FunPub. Now the Wings of Honor set is public knowledge, and some of the secret attendee figures are known. On top of Landshark, Flak and G1-homages Kup, Thunderclash and Scourge, we'll be seeing Banzai-Tron, Skyquake and Leozack as well as a figure referenced in a previous year: Razorclaw. There are still more to see of course. Elita-1 was featured in a previous year as well and is rumored to appear this year. To receive a set of figures, the collector must preorder them from Fun Publications, at a cost of no less than $360, $295 if you belong to the Transformers Collector’s Club. You can expect the price of the attendee-only souvenir figures to run about $230. Of course if you can’t make this price, then expect to pay twice the price on secondary markets, even more for individual figures. Definitely not meant for your 5 year old kid is it? Oh the costs of being a collector.
2009: The Year of the Collector
Soaring on the wings of exclusivity

The next staple exclusives appear at the San Diego Comic-Con (SDCC), happening this year July 22-26. Two years ago we saw Alternators Nemesis Prime and Rodimus and last year gave us Universe Nemesis Prime, all wonderfully done. These figures are certainly not as rare as Botcon, nor as pricey. On the secondary market SDCC Universe Nemesis Prime goes for about $50 if you can find a good deal. This year Hasbro appears to be taking a different tactic towards their exclusives. They’ll be offering up G1 Soundwave with Ravage, Laserbeak, Buzzsaw and Ratbat. This’ll be the first time that Ratbat and Buzzsaw have been re-released in the US since the 80s (KO’s not included), of course most have been released in Japan in one form or another. Ratbat will be appearing there as part of one of the Encore sets alongside other not-seen-in-a-long-time cassette figures. The other SDCC exclusive will be Mighty Muggs Optimus Prime, this time in a metallic finish, giving it a die-cast sheen. Whether or not these exclusives get snatched up or not is yet to be seen, as many diehard collectors already have at least one Soundwave and the reception to the Mighty Muggs line is luke-warm. It seems odd that Hasbro isn’t offering something to collectors that would fit in with one of the modern lines, but perhaps that just hasn’t been announced yet.
2009: The Year of the Collector
"Buy me, I'm shiny."

I mentioned the Collector's Club already, so what is it? Boiled down to the bare bones they the Country Club of the Transformers fandom. Members pay a fee in exchange for a free yearly figure (Heatwave this year), 6 issues of the Collector's club magazine full of sneak peaks and interviews and membership discounts on several exclusive figures. In 2007 it was Astrotrain and Airazor, 2008 saw Nightbeat and the Seacons. Expect to hear about the 2009 exclusives at Botcon in May. What will they be? Several people are guessing tie-ins to Shattered Glass or other previous Botcon sets, or they could be something new all together. One thing's for sure when dealing with The Club; expect the unexpected.
2009: The Year of the Collector
Join us, you'll love it here

So what’s next on our exclusive hunt? How about looking somewhere not typically known for exclusives? Let’s look north of the border into Canada and TFCon. It was last year that FansProject and their City Commander upgrade kit took the Transformers world by storm, and showed everyone that 3rd party groups can contribute quality additions to any collector’s shelf. Needless to say it sold out quickly, as did the Shadow Commander set released for the aforementioned SDCC Nemesis Prime. But now a third commander joins the team: Powered Commander. A trailer for Classics Optimus Prime, this set will transform him into a gargantuan warrior clad in his original Diaclone colors. Also included with this set will be custom made energon cube carrying case and shoulder rockets, something missing from both previous sets. Sound cool? You bet it is, and to get it you must be attending TFCon and pay $150 CDN per trailer! That’s about $121 USD for those of you south of the border. On ebay, there are already preorders up for this guy if you’re willing to shell out $250 in US dollars. That’s one heck of a mark-up. Also one must act fast and hold on tightly, because there are only 500 of these guys and they’re over 50% sold out.
2009: The Year of the Collector
"Blink and you'll miss me"

Speaking about City Commander, this seems to be a good time to bring up the second theme of the year: third party kits. As I mentioned before, FansProject proved there was a market here, first with their Cliffjumper kit, then with their City/Shadow Commander set. So, what’s now available? Let’s take a look:
--TFClub is releasing a set of weapons and accessories to attach to Universe figures. These include shoulder missiles, an “invisibility box” for Mirage, a ladder for Inferno and the first ever Autoscout mini-cassette. $45 for the set
--BTS Toy has just released their trailer sets, one for Classics Optimus Prime and one for Universe Nemesis Prime. These trailers include a Roller drone and a couple hand-held weapons for those Transformers not fortunate enough to have one. $60 each.
--iGear has stormed the market with not one, but FOUR different sets all in various stages of production. Their flagship project is their own Autoscoute cassette tape. Also in the works is an accessory kit for MP Grimlock and a fully functional trailer for Masterpiece Prime that appears to be similar to the one released with MP-04. Not happy with your City Commander set? Want missiles or a new head? iGear’s coming out with that too, with a sword, greathammer and Wreckers flag to boot. $15 for the Grimlock set and $20 for Autoscout
--Nato-bot has also just released their upgrade kit for Universe Roadbuster, which includes an assault rifle, shoulder cannon and a new head (some assembly required). There have been mold issues on this set, which has delayed its release to many collectors, however expect that to be fixed shortly. $31 for the full set or $15 for the head and rifle or $18 for the cannon. Also featured is an axe for Animated Optimus Prime, which is in the early stages of production.
--Unicron.com has produced a set for the Animated enthusiasts, containing stasis cuffs, an Allspark, Ratchet's magnetic weapons and a replica of Sari's allspark key. That set goes for $20 on BBTS.
--Mastermind Creations is taking things one step further with making their own figure based off IDW's Hearts of Steel Optimus Prime.
--And let’s not forget about FansProject. The pioneer in this field isn’t backing down from all the new-found competition. Their next project is a G1-style trailer for Optimus Prime, which includes several anime-accurate weapons for Universe characters and a roller drone. A preorder has shown up for $80. Also they have hinted at a Rodimus Prime upgrade for Classics Rodimus, dubbed the Protector Armor, many going to TFCon expect to see more on this piece while there. What ever happened to the other Universe accessories such as Classics Matrix and hand-held Megatron gun? Can’t say for sure but don’t expect them to drop those ideas.
2009: The Year of the Collector
eeenie meenie miney moe...


With North America covered, and all of the extra kits that have collectors researching 2nd or 3rd mortgages, let’s take a look at the country where everything cute, awesome and perverted comes from: Japan.

Japan holds an interesting spot in the Transformer Collecting game, because to us North Americans and Europeans; everything they make is collectable. Henkei has more detailed paint apps, Transformers Alternity, a sequel to the Binaltech/Alternators line is many collectors wet dream and Masterpiece Grimlock won’t see US release in its current form due to toy laws. Not to mention there are several lines that Hasbro won’t even consider bringing in, such as Disney Label, Music Label and the recently-announced Device Label. I’m going to only focus on the true exclusives though, but best of luck getting everything else!

The year stated off with images of a Lucky Draw Henkei Galvatron figure, all shiny and golden. For many collectors the lucky draw figures represent the pinnacle of a collection, even more so than prototype figures. Alas, even for many collectors who consider themselves diehard, Lucky Draws are out of reach unless one really wants to spend anywhere between $1,000 and $6,000, yikes!
2009: The Year of the Collector
"Hello, you'll never own me."


The fist exclusives of the year were released just this month. Henkei (Or Gentei if you prefer) Thrust and Dirge found their way on to the shelves of many collectors, re-igniting the old fashioned Botcon exclusivity debate. However these figures have custom wings and different paint schemes than their ’07 counterparts, thus keeping the debate on a low simmer. Still if one wants these figures expect to pay upward of $90-150 each, up to and over $200 if you want both.
2009: The Year of the Collector
2009: The Year of the Collector
Making Botcon obsolete since 2008, or did we???


Transformer Generations volume 1 and 2 have been announced, with volume 1 already on the market. While only available in Japan (and hence only in Japanese) these books outline the detailed history of TFs from their Diaclone era all the way up to their Alternity incarnations. While the books may be a good read, it’s the figures that interest most collectors. Fill out the card at the back of the book, add about $45 USD-worth of yen and in about 4 months you’ll receive your very own Classics Mirage, in transparent plastic. When volume 2 is released you can do the same and receive a transparent Classics Starscream. Sounds cool! Oh, yeah did I mention you must be a Japanese resident to qualify? Sucks doesn’t it? Not to worry though, BigBadToyStore and certain other retailers have come through, and for $90 USD each you’ll have Mirage and Starscream on your shelves once they’re released. If you want the books too, that’ll be about $30 extra.
2009: The Year of the Collector
Who knew clear plastic was so expensive?

A recent stunt (or marketing technique) by the Ganbo store allowed interested parties to apply for a special credit card. Along with that credit card, comes along a free Minicon. Naturally there are two Minicons, and thus one would need to order both credit cards to get both Minicons. Also once again, this is only available to Japanese citizens. No one ever said it’d be easy collecting overseas merchandise. Once again though BigBadToyStore has come through on this, and you can preorder both minicons for $50 per pair. Many minicon collectors actually call that a good deal.
2009: The Year of the Collector
Yeah, we're THAT good

And the final exclusive known to see a 2009 release is based off of Universe Cyclonus; which has been recognized as the best mold coming out of the Universe line, this time in the styling of Technobot Strafe. In order to get this figure through normal means, one must buy it using the special credit card obtained with the Minicons mentioned previously (meaning that you must live in Japan, don’t you love how everything ties together?) BigBadToyStore and Robotkingdom both have this guy up for preorder ($110 and $90 respectively). Needless to say it’s a pricey figure, but what can you do if you’re not a Japanese citizen?
2009: The Year of the Collector
"Go on, try and deny my awesomeness!"

So I’ve listed every exclusive figure that’s been released or announced for release in 2009. Do you want to know how much you’ll spend if you purchase one of every figure here, excluding the Lucky Draw and some fan kits?

You sure?

Ok, but don’t say I didn’t warn you.

$1492 USD

$1492 is a lot of money, and that’s not including shipping fees and the prices for some of the third party upgrades and add-ons because they aren’t priced out yet. Also not included are the thousands that many collectors spend on Japanese mass released figures, such as the Masterpice, Alternity and Label lines, or for that matter ROTF, Animated, and Universe lines. Each figure may not seem like a lot, but MP Grimlock, Henkei Hound, Cyclonus and Red Alert, and Alternity Prime(s) and Megatron(s), there goes at least $400!

Let’s also remember that this is April, the year isn’t even half over yet. Who knows what else we’ll see with the onslaught of Revenge of The Fallen line? Who knows what 2010 will bring? I don’t know, but after this year many collectors will need a second job to break even.

All of these exclusives are well and good, but one must ask the question: how will we pay for all of these? If you've just emerged from your Fortress of Solitude, then allow me to fill you in on one critical bulletin: We're in a global recession! The cost of oil is going up, which directly affects the two main aspects of our hobby, and thus the bottom line: figure creation and shipping. Petroleum products are used to make the plastics we hold in our hands, and power the engines that get these figures from the factories in Asia to our hands in North America and Europe. Not only that, but the spending power of many collectors has decreased, shoving many of these figures just beyond our reach. So how are companies still earning a profit off of these if we can't buy them?

Simple; collectors, diehard collectors have a tendency to pay far more money than they should for a piece of nicely painted plastic. If 50% of the collectors would pay $60 for a figure, then 40% will pay $80. That's a 20% decrease in collectors for sure, but that's a 25% price increase per figure. If the company scales back manufacturing slightly, they save a fortune and make a fortune. They win, while making it seem that we collectors win.

Sneaky, ain't it?
Credit(s): Mkall

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Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (913965)
Posted by Firebird on April 23rd, 2009 @ 3:17pm CDT
Nice read Mkall. You really summed up the current exclusive situation nicely.

But did you need to put the total at the end :shock: I'm spending most of that!
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (913978)
Posted by Counterpunch on April 23rd, 2009 @ 3:34pm CDT
These toys are things that people need.

When you need something, that's a responsibility.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (913983)
Posted by Delicon on April 23rd, 2009 @ 3:38pm CDT
Mkall, you conveniently declined to mention how you're not cool enough to attend Botcon this year.

All kidding aside, a great (and extremely comprehensive) article. Kudos, my friend!

This is a great year to be a collector, indeed.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (913984)
Posted by Mkall on April 23rd, 2009 @ 3:40pm CDT
Delicon wrote:Mkall, you conveniently declined to mention how you're not cool enough to attend Botcon this year.

You can thank my uncool school for that :P

Going to TFCon though, so that will be great fun
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (913989)
Posted by Editor on April 23rd, 2009 @ 3:52pm CDT
Mkall, great piece.

I hope you'll be following this up later in the year.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (913994)
Posted by Delicon on April 23rd, 2009 @ 4:04pm CDT
Mkall wrote:
Delicon wrote:Mkall, you conveniently declined to mention how you're not cool enough to attend Botcon this year.

You can thank my uncool school for that :P

Going to TFCon though, so that will be great fun


Dude, nice try, but it's only cool if Counterpunch and I are there.

And I'm not even sure about Counterpunch.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914001)
Posted by starfish on April 23rd, 2009 @ 4:14pm CDT
Interesting article, weird title. I mean, how is 2009 'The Year of the Collector' and not, for example, 2007?

Indeed, with the second movie line due to come out this year, isn't 2009 more likely to be remembered as 'year of mass-appeal'?

It's not just the die-hards who'll be having fun in '09, y'know!
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914019)
Posted by Primacron's Little Helper on April 23rd, 2009 @ 4:48pm CDT
Nice article, really good summary of the exciting things coming out this year.

I'm hoping that 2009 will be the year that I finally give up buying over-priced G1 figures from ebay.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914038)
Posted by Mkall on April 23rd, 2009 @ 5:26pm CDT
starfish wrote:Interesting article, weird title. I mean, how is 2009 'The Year of the Collector' and not, for example, 2007?

Botcon '09, if rumours are true it'll have more exclusives this year than any year previous.
TFCon and Powered Commander
3rd party kits out the wazoo
Japanese Exclusives that are proving very difficult to get through normal means

Indeed, with the second movie line due to come out this year, isn't 2009 more likely to be remembered as 'year of mass-appeal'?

I'm certainly not denying the impact, or numbers, of what will be released mass market, but there's so many niche figures out there this year that one has to keep track.

Editor wrote:Mkall, great piece.

I hope you'll be following this up later in the year.

I'll see what I can do
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914039)
Posted by i_amtrunks on April 23rd, 2009 @ 5:27pm CDT
Nice work Mkall.

I expect a full report come the end of the year! :P
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914075)
Posted by Narc on April 23rd, 2009 @ 6:33pm CDT
Great article! I'm sure I've spent more than that in the 12 month period since may last year, and the rest of this year doesn't seem to be wallet friendly.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914077)
Posted by ponycorn on April 23rd, 2009 @ 6:38pm CDT
The Henki Dirge and Thrust are thankfully the only two on my list from this list. Even still, I wish we'd get less expensive individually packaged U.S. Classics versions. :-(
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914086)
Posted by Delicon on April 23rd, 2009 @ 6:51pm CDT
ponycorn wrote:The Henki Dirge and Thrust are thankfully the only two on my list from this list. Even still, I wish we'd get less expensive individually packaged U.S. Classics versions. :-(


And I've really always wanted a pony.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914110)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on April 23rd, 2009 @ 7:48pm CDT
nice read but i am not spending that much............yet. i have not gotten my first exclusive yet, so when i get mah first one i will want more more! MORE! HA HA HA HA HA! :-B 8-} 8-} =P~
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914111)
Posted by Counterpunch on April 23rd, 2009 @ 7:53pm CDT
Delicon wrote:
ponycorn wrote:The Henki Dirge and Thrust are thankfully the only two on my list from this list. Even still, I wish we'd get less expensive individually packaged U.S. Classics versions. :-(


And I've really always wanted a pony.


!

I LoLed for real!

wow
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914175)
Posted by DevastaTTor on April 23rd, 2009 @ 11:28pm CDT
Really great observation!

My new years resolution was to spend only the money that was given to me this year, none of my own. Obviously I picked the wrong year to try and attempt that. Still haven't broken it yet, but with so much in the pipeline, it's a lost cause.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914195)
Posted by typh0id on April 24th, 2009 @ 1:32am CDT
Very very good article.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914215)
Posted by starfish on April 24th, 2009 @ 6:12am CDT
Mkall wrote:
starfish wrote:Interesting article, weird title. I mean, how is 2009 'The Year of the Collector' and not, for example, 2007?

Botcon '09, if rumours are true it'll have more exclusives this year than any year previous.
TFCon and Powered Commander
3rd party kits out the wazoo
Japanese Exclusives that are proving very difficult to get through normal means


Quantity is not necessarily equal to quality.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914242)
Posted by Arlekkin on April 24th, 2009 @ 9:11am CDT
Hi Mkall, I liked your article... but I disagree on something. Henkei Thrust and Dirge could be pre-ordered from Japan through sites like Rinkya.com and delivered for the total price of $120 both (shipping and taxes included)... That's how much I paid for mine...
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Posted by Prime Evil on April 24th, 2009 @ 9:33am CDT
Love the article Mkall. I've also been trimming down my collecting and have since focused more on exclusives. I'm still all about the cls/unvse, but that's all. But since we are gonna be in a lull soon cause of them damn movie toys, I'll get a chance to catch up on exclusives I have coming:

Powerd Convoy (hopes my connect can come through!)
Henkei's Thrust n Dirge (will pick up after Botcon probably)
BTS Nemesis Trailer (Just waiting for my pre-order to go through)
Nato-bot Roadbuster (Got my confirmation email yesterday that I'm on the pre-order list but gotta wait a bit)
G3 Trailer (got plenty of time for this bad ass add-on)
Electro Mirage (pre-ordered)
Technobot Strafe (pre-ordered)
Ghost Starscream (will pre-order after Botcon)

I was just talking to Asepticon yesterday bout getting a new shelf just for my exclusive TF stuff now. Looks like the shelf will be filled up faster then I thought.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914266)
Posted by OPTIMUS MAGNUS on April 24th, 2009 @ 10:02am CDT
Great read MKall. I always like reading your writings. That lucky draw Galvy looks sweet too.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914340)
Posted by Blurrz on April 24th, 2009 @ 1:57pm CDT
Nothing better than reading this article, and then reading all of the people here who are actually gonna end up buying all of these exclusives. Bwahahaha.
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Posted by Counterpunch on April 24th, 2009 @ 3:54pm CDT
Blurrz wrote:Nothing better than reading this article, and then reading all of the people here who are actually gonna end up buying all of these exclusives. Bwahahaha.


:?:
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914393)
Posted by Prime Evil on April 24th, 2009 @ 4:07pm CDT
Blurrz wrote:Nothing better than reading this article, and then reading all of the people here who are actually gonna end up buying all of these exclusives. Bwahahaha.


That's all you have to say? Really? Hahaha(?), cause these guys are buying toys. OMG, look at all these ppl buying toys. Do you realize where you're posting this? You might wanna try an hit up a non TF site if you're gonna be laughing at pple collecting TF toys there.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914408)
Posted by Delicon on April 24th, 2009 @ 5:06pm CDT
Blurrz wrote:Nothing better than reading this article, and then reading all of the people here who are actually gonna end up buying all of these exclusives. Bwahahaha.


Meanwhile you will spend your money on cheese?
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914468)
Posted by DevastaTTor on April 24th, 2009 @ 8:29pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:
Blurrz wrote:Nothing better than reading this article, and then reading all of the people here who are actually gonna end up buying all of these exclusives. Bwahahaha.


:?:

Followed by a :roll:
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914710)
Posted by Rated X on April 25th, 2009 @ 6:25pm CDT
Interesting article...much credit to the writer. I have about 75 G1 figures from my childhood, and maybe another 70 from the movie and universe lines plus a few select animated. So I consider myself to be an avid collector. However I must protest against all foreign companies who sell plastic figures for hundreds of dollars. This is highway robbery. There is no shortage of plastic or cheap labor in Asia. But in reality you gotta blame the buyers because they allow this to happen by giving in to temptation. If they keep buying, Henkei and others will keep selling and I dont blame them. We seem to get so caught up into the collecting aspect, we forgot that these are just toys. This reminds me of what happened to baseball cards. Collectors robbed kids of the hobby by demanding Topps and Donruss to improve theyre quality to Upper Deck standards in the early 90's. All my cards that were worth a hundred bucks then, are now worth under 10 bucks because the kids got sick of being excluded due to high costs and said "fuck these collecters !!!" as a result, the demand for cards went down and so did their value. Not sure what the values are in middle america but here in Miami they are not worth shit. Things are a little different in urban areas. Lets hope these greedy asian companies and extravagant collectors dont do the same thing to transformers. Or in ten years Ill be buying their Henkei collections for 40 bucks on e-bay if they kill the hobby.


Just food for thought...no disrespect to anyone.

Peace....
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914724)
Posted by Blurrz on April 25th, 2009 @ 7:32pm CDT
Prime Evil wrote:
Blurrz wrote:Nothing better than reading this article, and then reading all of the people here who are actually gonna end up buying all of these exclusives. Bwahahaha.


That's all you have to say? Really? Hahaha(?), cause these guys are buying toys. OMG, look at all these ppl buying toys. Do you realize where you're posting this? You might wanna try an hit up a non TF site if you're gonna be laughing at pple collecting TF toys there.


Mock me all you want, I was simply poking fun. Half of the stuff on that list is overpriced and is going to be ridiculous to find in the secondary market. I'm simply fascinated at what lengths people would go to get figures that don't look out of the ordinary or are simply repainted figures.

Take those minicons for example. No way in hell I'd pay that much even if I am an Armada collector and Mini-con completionist.

Bwah, what am I even saying.. I payed my friend to get Powered Commander >_>

Delicon wrote:
Blurrz wrote:Nothing better than reading this article, and then reading all of the people here who are actually gonna end up buying all of these exclusives. Bwahahaha.


Meanwhile you will spend your money on cheese?


Don't underestimate cheese. It's pretty vital for me to function properly. Plus.. 2 Slabs of Cheese + 2 Deluxes + 2 Voyagers > 2 Exclusive Mini-cons that I can probably imitate by painting over the mass produced ones.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914759)
Posted by videriant on April 25th, 2009 @ 10:51pm CDT
The answer of course is scalping. Everytime a new figure is announced go out and preorder 1000 of them. When you receive them mark em up $1 and resell 999 of them. Free figure!!!
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914869)
Posted by DevastaTTor on April 26th, 2009 @ 12:58pm CDT
videriant wrote:The answer of course is scalping. Everytime a new figure is announced go out and preorder 1000 of them. When you receive them mark em up $1 and resell 999 of them. Free figure!!!

Ever heard of carrying costs?
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914899)
Posted by First Gen on April 26th, 2009 @ 3:16pm CDT
The argument that buying something that's overpriced is both pointless and irrelevant to a collector.

Mkall, thank you for including us little guys who own only a handful of TF's in the Collector category, but I don't think we truly are.

I aspire to be a collector. Yes I have a few Japanese figures like Henkei Skywarp and Thundercracker. Sure I preordered Thrust and Dirge when they were announced. Yeah I forked out the 80 bucks to get a City Commander upgrade set for my Classics Ultra Magnus figure and (thanks to Mkall) will be getting the Powered Commander set. And aside from Botcon figures, thats about the extent of "exclusive" or "expensive" figures that I own. I own most of the Classics line, a few Movie figures, only two authentic G1 figs. All in all my collection doesn't break 50 TF's and I hesitate on alot of purchases causing me to miss out on them. Thats not a collector.

The collector will find the means to get the figure he/she desires. Price is not an issue for most cases and the rarer the figure, the more its desired.

Don't look down on someone just because they're willing to fork over 50 dollars for a minicon. For one its there prerogative and two, if you could see just how sweet those minicons are in the eyes of that collector, you'd be forking over 60 so you can get them before the other guy.

I'd love to be considered a collector but so many of you guys here put me to complete shame not only in TF count but in quality, displaying and rarity.

In this life there are so many things that are designed to bring us nothing but pain and anguish. Get what brings you joy in piece, I say.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (914972)
Posted by Delicon on April 26th, 2009 @ 10:18pm CDT
First Gen wrote:The argument that buying something that's overpriced is both pointless and irrelevant to a collector.

Mkall, thank you for including us little guys who own only a handful of TF's in the Collector category, but I don't think we truly are.

I aspire to be a collector. Yes I have a few Japanese figures like Henkei Skywarp and Thundercracker. Sure I preordered Thrust and Dirge when they were announced. Yeah I forked out the 80 bucks to get a City Commander upgrade set for my Classics Ultra Magnus figure and (thanks to Mkall) will be getting the Powered Commander set. And aside from Botcon figures, thats about the extent of "exclusive" or "expensive" figures that I own. I own most of the Classics line, a few Movie figures, only two authentic G1 figs. All in all my collection doesn't break 50 TF's and I hesitate on alot of purchases causing me to miss out on them. Thats not a collector.

The collector will find the means to get the figure he/she desires. Price is not an issue for most cases and the rarer the figure, the more its desired.

Don't look down on someone just because they're willing to fork over 50 dollars for a minicon. For one its there prerogative and two, if you could see just how sweet those minicons are in the eyes of that collector, you'd be forking over 60 so you can get them before the other guy.

I'd love to be considered a collector but so many of you guys here put me to complete shame not only in TF count but in quality, displaying and rarity.

In this life there are so many things that are designed to bring us nothing but pain and anguish. Get what brings you joy in piece, I say.


First Gen, the way I see it, you definitely are a collector. I think it's silly when people say if you collect "YOU MUST HAVE" this figure or that figure. The beauty of collecting is that everyone can make their own rules.

For instance, I've been in the vaunted "Transformer room" at Counterpunch's house and he has a lot of figures I will never have, both in terms of total count and exclusivity. Ironically though I ended up trading him something that he had never seen before, a Yellow Cliffjumper that came with a cassette tape called Sun Raid, which was never opened before.

The point here is that unless you buy every single Trasnformer ever made, no two collections will ever be the same, and they don't have to be. As long as you're having fun, that's all that counts, man.
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (915120)
Posted by hinomars19 on April 27th, 2009 @ 3:32pm CDT
First Gen wrote:In this life there are so many things that are designed to bring us nothing but pain and anguish. Get what brings you joy in piece, I say.


truer words never spoken. :APPLAUSE:
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (915127)
Posted by Counterpunch on April 27th, 2009 @ 3:40pm CDT
hinomars19 wrote:
First Gen wrote:In this life there are so many things that are designed to bring us nothing but pain and anguish. Get what brings you joy in piece, I say.


truer words never spoken. :APPLAUSE:


There's pr0n of everything. <-Truer Words
Re: Site Article: 2009 - The Year of the Collector (915502)
Posted by i_amtrunks on April 28th, 2009 @ 6:38pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:
hinomars19 wrote:
First Gen wrote:In this life there are so many things that are designed to bring us nothing but pain and anguish. Get what brings you joy in piece, I say.


truer words never spoken. :APPLAUSE:


There's pr0n of everything. <-Truer Words


Why they keep giving you pencils I'll never understand! :P

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