Henkei Thrust And Dirge Exclusives Revealed
Wednesday, November 12th, 2008 8:42PM CST
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Many fans who were unable to get the original Botcon versions will surely be looking to snap these up. And with the obvious differences to the Botcon versions, there will be many collectors wanting these in their collections as well.
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Posted by El Duque on November 12th, 2008 @ 8:45pm CST
Posted by Lapse Of Reason on November 12th, 2008 @ 8:50pm CST
Dirge is the better of the two.
Posted by Smokescreen85 on November 12th, 2008 @ 8:51pm CST
Posted by DavidT on November 12th, 2008 @ 8:52pm CST
Well those are pretty sweet but I do like the botcon ones better. Thrust's main wings should have the fans.
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Posted by GreenLantern of Cybertron on November 12th, 2008 @ 8:56pm CST
I think thrust's upper wings flip up.
Posted by Galvatronus on November 12th, 2008 @ 8:57pm CST
Posted by Orion_Prime48 on November 12th, 2008 @ 8:58pm CST
Posted by emeraldbeacon on November 12th, 2008 @ 9:03pm CST
I'm happy with my BotCon seekers. Pass.
Posted by UltraPrimal on November 12th, 2008 @ 9:03pm CST
Posted by glazer on November 12th, 2008 @ 9:09pm CST
Posted by DavidT on November 12th, 2008 @ 9:17pm CST
glazer wrote:maybe the vertical take off and landing thrusters (on back tails)snap off and snap on to the top of the main wings?(explain holes on top of wings) that may make him look better - then- although if not ,still alLright in my book!!!
I hope thats true and not just for the guns to mount on. The other seekers didn't have the holes all the way through.
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Posted by ShGarland_1383 on November 12th, 2008 @ 9:18pm CST
Posted by Counterpunch on November 12th, 2008 @ 9:20pm CST
Posted by Amelie on November 12th, 2008 @ 9:22pm CST
I'll be getting them once I've got some pennies saved up. Although I may be temped to remove the chrome.
And what is it with people these days anyway? Hasbro release the BotCon exclusive and it's an outrage because now most collectors can't get the "full set" of G1 Seekers, so Takara relase the other G1 Seekers and get slammed for "odd colours" or "weird wings".
The real outrage should really be the high chance of loose limbs, weak plastic or missing parts these days.
Posted by Sunstar on November 12th, 2008 @ 9:24pm CST
Posted by Firebird on November 12th, 2008 @ 9:42pm CST
And why does Thrust have a light gray face?
Posted by HighPrime on November 12th, 2008 @ 9:56pm CST
Posted by Nemesis_Apoc on November 12th, 2008 @ 10:04pm CST
Posted by Koloth on November 12th, 2008 @ 10:12pm CST
Though the Botcon Dirge might lose some value since the Henkei design is closer to the original. But we shall see. Some how I think the rarity of the botcon figures will still demand a higher price point simply because of what they are.
Posted by Shadowstream on November 12th, 2008 @ 10:13pm CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 12th, 2008 @ 10:25pm CST
The VTOL wings look just like the Botcon ones IIRC, but are simply attached in a different spot.
And the attachment of the long wings looks odd, like it's been modified.
So yeah, I'm not going to discount the possibility that they're modular.
Edit: Nah, the longer I look at it the more I think it's just messed up. Remolding both figures was a clever way to get around the exclusive angle, but it kind of fails.
Edit II: On the other hand, the odd way Thrust's wings are made does suggest that maybe the VTOL fans themselves can be relocated from back to front.
Posted by Visitor61 on November 12th, 2008 @ 10:46pm CST
Posted by It Is Him on November 12th, 2008 @ 11:07pm CST
Amelie wrote:The real outrage should really be the high chance of loose limbs, weak plastic or missing parts these days.
Which is why I've decided to wait for the verdict on the QC.
Nyah.
Posted by Barrelass on November 12th, 2008 @ 11:13pm CST
Posted by DoubleOScorpio on November 13th, 2008 @ 12:21am CST
glazer wrote:maybe the vertical take off and landing thrusters (on back tails)snap off and snap on to the top of the main wings?(explain holes on top of wings) that may make him look better - then- although if not ,still alLright in my book!!!
If you look closely at the VTOL fans, there is a peg in the middle. Looks big enough to fit in that hole on the top of his wings. That would give him a G1 look in both bot and alt mode. Sweet!
As for the grey face, that's the anime-accurate theme. Thrust had a white face in the toon.
Posted by Savage on November 13th, 2008 @ 2:03am CST
Posted by First Gen on November 13th, 2008 @ 2:09am CST
Gonna be fun trying to find a color match to go over that horrid camo.
Posted by Prowl1529 on November 13th, 2008 @ 2:15am CST
Posted by waaaaghlord on November 13th, 2008 @ 3:18am CST
If they do a Sunstorm or a Ghost Starscream in the future though...
Posted by Narc on November 13th, 2008 @ 4:57am CST
Posted by DevastaTTor on November 13th, 2008 @ 6:10am CST
Posted by Pyrostrata on November 13th, 2008 @ 6:47am CST
Orion_Prime48 wrote:*exits HMW* OMFG those wing decos are horrible they look like clown planes major pass c'mon Hasbro kick there ass and release em *re-enters HMW*
LOL...I see you see them the same way I do! The Shriners were hired to deco those wings, I swear!
I will not be getting these bad-boys, thank you very much.
Posted by Archanubis on November 13th, 2008 @ 6:49am CST
Dirge looks good enough to buy, but Thrust is a definate pass, for several reasons. I have to wonder if these molds will suffer some of the same issues as Henkei Thundercracker.
Posted by Prime Evil on November 13th, 2008 @ 7:07am CST
Posted by DevastaTTor on November 13th, 2008 @ 8:47am CST
DevastaTTor wrote:I sure wish Drige had different missles more similar to Ramjet. And those patterns are just strange. This has moved back in the "maybe" pile for me.
OK, I caved and preordered. I just really want a full seeker set. I can live with the wing patterns. I have the feeling they'll probably grow on me.
However, I did skip the BBTS preorder and got mine from TFSource. BBTS priced themselves out of my preferred vendor spot.
Posted by Dead Metal on November 13th, 2008 @ 8:48am CST
Damn cash!
Posted by TFBuyer on November 13th, 2008 @ 8:50am CST
Barrelass wrote:I have just decided that I can't deal with the chrome and the stripes. I really hope that Hasbro can/does use this mold (so long as it doesn't upset the Botcon masses), cause I like em, but can't deal with those two things for that price. Sad too, cause I just found out a couple months back that I have a cousin living in Japan right now.
Yeah, good luck with that one...
And why does it look like they ran out of wings to use for Thrust so they just grabbed whatever they could find on the cutting room floor? Weird choices on these two...
Posted by Dagon on November 13th, 2008 @ 8:55am CST
Posted by Dead Metal on November 13th, 2008 @ 9:01am CST
TFBuyer wrote:Barrelass wrote:I have just decided that I can't deal with the chrome and the stripes. I really hope that Hasbro can/does use this mold (so long as it doesn't upset the Botcon masses), cause I like em, but can't deal with those two things for that price. Sad too, cause I just found out a couple months back that I have a cousin living in Japan right now.
Yeah, good luck with that one...
And why does it look like they ran out of wings to use for Thrust so they just grabbed whatever they could find on the cutting room floor? Weird choices on these two...
It looks like you can detach the fans from the lags and put them on his main wings so that he looks like this:
Posted by JaZzTaStIc on November 13th, 2008 @ 9:31am CST
although QC is a issue but my TC & SW ain't too bad, and maybe the conehead mold is still gd as its not been use as much as the other mold.
Posted by Ultra Magnus on November 13th, 2008 @ 9:52am CST
Posted by Editor on November 13th, 2008 @ 10:02am CST
Already ordered, and looking forward to finally having a full set.
Posted by Galva-Cannon on November 13th, 2008 @ 10:44am CST
Actually, you have to hand it to Takara for caring about the feelings of people who bought the Botcon set. I'm certain they could have just released these in totally show accurate decos, and I'm sure they would rather have done just that.
The fact that these figures are totally different retools of the seeker mold, with slightly different paint apps would have been more than enough to retain the (long term) value of the Botcon set, in my opinion. But no, they stuck on completely different paint apps onto the new wings, just to make them even more different.
At least that's my take on it. Seems like a gentleman's agreement between Hasbro and Takara.
Posted by HighPrime on November 13th, 2008 @ 10:53am CST
Galva-Cannon wrote:I really like the wing designs, even though they're not show or toy accurate.
Actually, you have to hand it to Takara for caring about the feelings of people who bought the Botcon set. I'm certain they could have just released these in totally show accurate decos, and I'm sure they would rather have done just that.
The fact that these figures are totally different retools of the seeker mold, with slightly different paint apps would have been more than enough to retain the (long term) value of the Botcon set, in my opinion. But no, they stuck on completely different paint apps onto the new wings, just to make them even more different.
At least that's my take on it. Seems like a gentleman's agreement between Hasbro and Takara.
That's a postive spin. Good to see that once in a while
I'm sticking with my theory that Takara would be dead behind the eyes if it didn't take advantage of an opportunity to make money hand over fist. If they REALLY cared, they'd recall Henkei SW and TC with apologizes for assuming prototypes could pass for production.
Posted by Hard Hacker on November 13th, 2008 @ 10:56am CST
Posted by Prowl1529 on November 13th, 2008 @ 1:50pm CST
But i would like to see new G1 inspiring molds for at least Jazz Wheeljack Soundwave and Blitzwing.
Takara is doing a great job, possible on a near future we could see some molds being repainted to new G1 charaters. But i have one request for Takara, please don't wait for Hasbro to launch their Transformers first, it doesn't matter if you launch second or first in my opinion the ones that bellow to Takara are the best.
Posted by Fatconvoy on November 13th, 2008 @ 2:06pm CST
ho hum. though i must say it softens the blow with regards to the fact that i own the GoD set.
Posted by Stormrider on November 13th, 2008 @ 3:57pm CST
Posted by Delicon on November 13th, 2008 @ 4:02pm CST
Counterpunch wrote:The hell?
2 simple yet effective words to describe these.
By the way, is it me, or does the wacky color scheme on the Dirge wings seems like it would fit in better with original Classics Starscream?
But nooooooo, Takara would never do a bad paint scheme.
Posted by TFBuyer on November 13th, 2008 @ 4:12pm CST
Dead Metal wrote:TFBuyer wrote:Barrelass wrote:I have just decided that I can't deal with the chrome and the stripes. I really hope that Hasbro can/does use this mold (so long as it doesn't upset the Botcon masses), cause I like em, but can't deal with those two things for that price. Sad too, cause I just found out a couple months back that I have a cousin living in Japan right now.
Yeah, good luck with that one...
And why does it look like they ran out of wings to use for Thrust so they just grabbed whatever they could find on the cutting room floor? Weird choices on these two...
It looks like you can detach the fans from the lags and put them on his main wings so that he looks like this:
I suppose. The whole shape of them is somewhat off-putting. I will give props to those that have seen the silver lining here, though. These things really shouldn't threaten the GoD set owners whatsoever.