Season 2: Episode 17 'The Elite Guard' Airs This Morning At 10:30 AM EST!

Im watching this as i type.

and its good so far.

uhm yeah one who the heck is sentinel? is he the brother of optimus prime. also jazz looks awesome.

also ultra magnus looks fricken awesome in both vehicle and alt mode.can;t wait for this action figure to come out. also i just hope he isn;t going to be a repainted version of cybertron's... wow after looking at the cybertron's he is going to be his own self. about time.

What the heck sarrie*sp* is a android? come on it be understandlabe the reason why the alspark chose her is cause of the cybertronian or even human advance robotics.

Here is what i think.

The show was good. I really hate sentinal. Jazz is like prowl so ill get him. The allspark in the robots now that was a good idea. But the thing about sari so she must be a bot but who knows.

Ultra Magus is Thor.....

Sentinel Prime is a Jerk.....

Jazz jus way 2 Cool, not G1 Scat Man voice cool but jus as much.......

Aslo its apparently there a Ninja School in Cybertron.....


I neva thought i will see Prime, Prowl and Jazz once again since the old G1 days fighting 2gether.

N now we got our 1st plot twist with Sari Background which got a big question mark about her existences

If Sari is a bot, how can she go "potty"?

Amazing episode love ultra magnus and jazz. Sentinel Prime is as big A***hole as I thought he would be and the mystery of Sari deepens can't wait to see what happens next. Just hope it is continued in two weeks after the whole ben ten thing is over.

Wonderful. Jazz was sweet. And the best part, aside form Sentinel's whose matches his character, is that they seem to be getting away from the cleftmasters

StryderPrime wrote:
I neva thought i will see Prime, Prowl and Jazz once again since the old G1 days fighting 2gether.

yes it seems this show is getting to be more and more like G1 and thats a good thing but also its using different references from other transformers shows. But all we need is ironhide, sky warp and thundercracker and it will be a bit more like G1.

I am interested in seeing how this plot twist with Sari will work out. She can't be a bot, tho, since Sumdac certainly hasn't invented any type or robot that can act so "human".

I also really liked what they did with Jazz's character. And he has nunchucks, which is a nice change if weaponry IMO. I hope to see more of him, tho I wonder why Prowl didn't go through all of Ninja-bot training? So many questions!

I like Jazz a LOT better than the other two. He's much easier to convince that humans aren't deadly than the other two. I think Sentinel might be scared of organics based on his past experience with the spiders and he always pulling out a force field in this episode.

And, I hate to admit it, but there might be something to the theory about Sari being a robot. BUT a robot/android/etc is not the only possibility as to what she is. Another possible one would be that she could've been born in a lab tube/artificial womb as a human created through science.

Besides, its already been said she's human:

http://www.unicron.com/news_item/1145/

But things can change.

Maybe Jazz will teach Prowl some new Metallikato moves. He didn't seem like he was being malicious toward Prowl when he commented on his skills(he actually sounded quite impressed), just that he needed some more training. Jazz came off as less of a prick than Sentinel.

Magnus was quite awesome, despite never hitting anything with the GYNORMOUS hammer.

As for Sari, the original clips of the show had her with a backpack that put out little jet boosters, maybe they weren't coming out of the backpack... Didn't she have a robot dog too?

The highlight of this episode for me was when Grimlock knocked that autoprick Sentinel Prime flat on his aft. Priceless!

I also really love Jazz. Him and Prowl make an awesome ninja team!

Why are people calling this season 2? Wasn't Season 1 was supposed to be 26 episodes long?

Great episode! I wish these episodes were an hour long, 'cause 30 minutes is just too short. I was suprized to see Megatron established a base in the mines were his body was excavated. This Inuyasha-style search for the Allspark/crystal shards should prove interesting. If these shards are to be found in Cybertronian based technology, it could mean a return for Soundwave. It could also mean we'll be getting Allspark-powered superhumans and/or Decepticons.

That was a sweet episode, and only one line from Sari that made me cringe. It's a record.

Thor was cool too! That is to say Ultra "Thor" Magnus.

I don't understand how someone as ignorant as Sentinel Prime gets to hang out with the Supreme Commander though.

Jazz was okay, nothing special, but pretty fun.

I'm going to designate Ultra Magnus' ship, "The O'Neill". Har har.

Loved it.

Ultra Magnus was super cool with his hammer, really gives his status some 'umph'.

Sentinel is a dick. Awesome!

Jazz is very likable. If they kill THIS Jazz off, I will be very annoyed. This is the closest to G1 Jazz we've had, in his love for earth culture. Well the movie one did have a love for it too but it wasn't really explored or elaborated on.

Megatron and his gang are still around. Woop.

The AllSpark is scattered around... Sounds sadly unoriginal. Strikes the same chord as Dragon Ball Z or Pokemon in a 'Gotta catch em all' kinda way. We'll see if they manage it well.

And Sari not existing! It's an interesting direction, but I feel a little that its a bit.. soap opera drama, you know? A sudden inexplicable twist thrown in for effect. No doubt this is what Sumdaac was referring to in the last episode. I'm gonna guess she's actually a robot or something totally bizarre. Why else would the AllSpark choose her? I mean it has very little to do with organics generally, doesn't it.

This is starting to get very G1 again, i'm please to say! All very nostalgic. Autobots helping to repair the damage. The decepticons scheming. And of course, its going back to the Autobot/Decepticon war now. Plus the new elements, like Prime having a rival and Sari being.. not Sari.

Loving it! Loving it all over!

i bet Magnus can handle it now!

Tekka wrote:Thor was cool too! That is to say Ultra "Thor" Magnus.

I'm going to designate Ultra Magnus' ship, "The O'Neill". Har har.

does that mean its gonna get blown up to destroy some replicators?

i want one of those magnus figures, hammer included!

Seibertron wrote:Why are people calling this season 2? Wasn't Season 1 was supposed to be 26 episodes long?

No just 13 eps. That's how it is with all CN shows 13 episodes per season, but I bet this series will get atleast 5 seasons since that;s the usual run for CN shows

Sari as an android - plausible, but highly unlikely. Given the "usual" stuff that Sumdac puts out, and if she is a Cybertronian derivative why doesn't she trigger all the Cybertron-tech sensors the TFs have???

I'm thinking the lack of records was because Daddy didn't want a paper trail leading to a target that can be used against him. Look at how sequestered she was at the beginning of the story - Daddy doesn't even let her go to school - she has a home-school 'bot instead...

This one seems to be revealing a lot more "adult" orientation than usual - on top of Sari, there's now a question about OP and his training.

Consider this one phrase: OP - to Sentinel - "and I'm the same rank as you"

So OP and SP are both equal (Officer?) rank. Which leads me to believe the "Elite Guard" school = Ranger-style school, not the primary Military Academy. That one thing could change the whole dynamic about OP...

Nice episode! A little twist with the Allspark fragment stuff, which adds the object of importance to the other episodes. Space bridge technology? Also, first time we've seen Cybertron, I believe.

I like Jazz. So he's gone through Autobot Academy and learned martial arts? I wonder if he's supposed to be superior to Prowl, because that would sort of defeat Prowl's character. Sentinel Prime is a real pain, but he's cool. Ultra Magnus is my favorite of the three, and very admirable. I like that Optimus and Sentinel are equals
under him.

A little bit of whatever with the Dinobots, but at least they're not going away. And of course it remains to be seen what will become of Starscream, and Blackarachnia.

This is probably my favorite episode of animated! I think when Bumblebee & Bulkhead were talking about Sentinel not remembering them is a little reference to a future episode when there are4 flashbacks of them in Autobot Bootcamp. I think they got the "Allspark Fragment" idea from the movie, I just hope this isn't like Armada where they search for the fragments like mini-cons.

Yeah, I caught the bit with Bulkhead and Bumblebee too. I think it's interesting, and that episode should be really fun. And what nerve Bulkhead had to go at Sentinel like that. I wonder if we'll see something like that.

Autobot Jazz wrote: I think they got the "Allspark Fragment" idea from the movie, I just hope this isn't like Armada where they search for the fragments like mini-cons.

I think it'll be more like an "InuYasha-style" search like how they search for the Sacred Jewel Shards.

Plus, when the AllSpark fragments affect the technology they're stuck to, they emit a blue energy. Sound familiar? (*cough*AllSpark Power toys*cough*)

I enjoyed this episode what with the tick, The mighty thor and jazz being in it. I really like jazz he's now my favourite autobot and with the dinobots in it, it was even better.

Ultra Magnus looks pretty badass, I wonder how he'd fare in a fight with Megatron

I must say, there is no reason for not to dislike Animated. It's original, nostalgic in some areas, & just makes me happy.

-Ultra Magnus is awesome, aside from the fact that he sounds very close to the G1 Movie Magnus. That made my day. Plus he has a giant hammer!

-Sentinel is a douche. That is all. Although I loved it when Magnus totally ripped him in front of the rest of the Autobots.

-The Decepticons are hiding out in a cavern somewhere....very "Nightbird"-ish if I recall correctly.

-Jazz has style. 'Nuff said. If he gets into earth music, then I definately know that this is G1 reincarnated.

This is my show now. Nothing else matters until Masterpiece Soundwave is produced.

What more can i say ? everything has been said about this episode. i really liked it. Thor's power... i'm sorry, Ultra Magnus' power is awesome and i can't wait to see him in combat with old Megs. the Jazz and Prowl duo kind of reminds me of Sideswipe and Sunstreaker in g1.

Okay, now let's sum up the references in this ep:

- Both Jazz and Prowl mention Metallikato as a martial art, this is clearly a reference to G1 Bludgeon.
- Megatron and his henchmen are hanging out a in mine, both comic and cartoon incarnations have done this at one point. More specifically comic Megatron set up shop in a coal mine after being badly damaged previously.
- Sumdac's captivity seems to mimic Archevil's situation in the G1 cartoon.
- Ultra Magnus is most almost a carbon copy of his G1 incarnation.
- Jazz is back, though he appears to be a mix of his cartoon and movie incarnations.
- Jazz didn't know what to make of the humans when he first saw them. A similar situation was presented to him in the very first Transformers issue when the Autobots first saw humans in a drive in.
- The Allspark shards are possibly a reference to the movie when Optimus Prime picked up a allspark shard from Megatron's body.
- Megatron is planning to build his own spacebridge, this is the opposite of the cartoon and comic versions. In both comics and cartoons it was the Decepticons who had spacebridge technology.


Anybody else catch any references?

Season 1, Season 2, I don't care, this was a good episode.

Jazz was a really nifty character. Very G1 like and much preferred to his movie self. Like his numbchuck weapons, and the fact that he and Prowl are similar, and yet different enough to be separate characters.

I was very impressed with Ultra Magnus. I really like his hammer of Thor actions, the voice actor was great and he came off as being a very powerful bot.

LIke everyone else I really dislike Sentinel and wish that the Tick would just kick him to planet infinity or something.

Nice to see Megatron set his sights on Cybertron again. However, the poster who said this was going to become like Inuyasha jewel shards was right on the money. Are they going to collect them all and try to glue them together? Megatron did not seem too interested in this new fact turning up. He was much more interested in his space bridge technology.

Can't wait until April 26th --spoiler--so Sentinel will get his and headmaster returns to use that pretty pink bonnet as a tool for war.

Two thumbs up for this ep. Sentinel's stupidity, makes one wonder how he was ever chosen to be in the Elite Guard. Must be a lot of bots called in sick that day.

tigertracks 24 wrote:Sentinel's stupidity, makes one wonder how he was ever chosen to be in the Elite Guard. Must be a lot of bots called in sick that day.

Maybe he's just got a crush on the Optimus we know & love and just gets nervous around him.


Ooooh, forget the Sari thing, that's a great twist for the next episode right there!

Omega Charge wrote:I like Jazz. So he's gone through Autobot Academy and learned martial arts? I wonder if he's supposed to be superior to Prowl, because that would sort of defeat Prowl's character.

Yeah it seemed a bit that way. Things are starting to get interesting. I think where Prowl may come into his own is he's not a 'college-boy' or 'academy-bot'. Prowl is probably more of a self-taught autodidact.

Excellent episode overall. Right from the start it was good. Nice to see the autobots doing some clearing up. I always like to see repercussions to big action scenes, and continuity with previous episodes.

Sentinel Prime is great! Whatta guy... though maybe they're laying him on just a bit too thick. Perhaps it might work better if he was just mildly irritating, so they could drag out the little feud a bit longer. Anyway, his addition provides an instant solution to the problem of Optimus's likability. It was great to see Bulkhead sticking up for the bossbot.

Magnus is magnificent. Megatron and the decepticons suddenly seem a lot less threatening. I lol'd when Lugnut's arm fell off.

I also noticed that we haven't been introduced to Wreck-Gar yet. Maybe there are any more bots on that massive ship. But I was thinking he'd be an excellent candidate for the sort of scrapyard-junk-turned-sentient-bot-by allspark-shard type storyline that I'm sure we'll see at some point.

They've really picked up after a few dud shows. Lots of interesting developments and unexpected twists.

tigertracks 24 wrote:I was very impressed with Ultra Magnus. I really like his hammer of Thor actions, the voice actor was great and he came off as being a very powerful bot.

He actually like mix between G1 and RiD Ultra Magnus. He's got G1's looks and leadership, and Rid's power and might (In RiD, they said Ultra Magnus was the most powerful warrior of all the Autobots).

tigertracks 24 wrote:However, the poster who said this was going to become like Inuyasha jewel shards was right on the money.

That was me, thanks.

Bumblethumper wrote:also noticed that we haven't been introduced to Wreck-Gar yet. Maybe there are any more bots on that massive ship. But I was thinking he'd be an excellent candidate for the sort of scrapyard-junk-turned-sentient-bot-by allspark-shard type storyline that I'm sure we'll see at some point.

He'll show up in a later episode entitled "Garbage In, Garbage Out":

"AllSpark energy turns a junk pile into a sentient robot who tries to help the Autobots, but ends up doing more harm than good. "

Just watched it. Kinda nice ep...nothing great, but not offensive or boring. Magnus and his Hammer are cool. Sentinal is a douchebag. I enjoyed it when Optimus told Sentinel off near the end. Jazz is REAL cool.


Wonder how they are gonna work this plot-twist with Sari and her identity. Isaac did say near the end of Megatron Rising that he had something of great importance to tell her, but was never given the chance....hmmmm.....me wonders...


Space bridge technology was developed by Autobots in this series....How unusual....has always been the other way around, but owell....new continuity, new ideas...



Things we need to see more of: Jazz, Ultra Magnus, and Megatron.
Jazz's whole Metallikato/ninja thing is nice...would like to see him and Prowl together for a few eps! Would also rock to see Megs and Mags go at it! Would be a great fight!

Thing we can see less of: Sentinel "The Douchebag" Prime. He's got his head firmly stuck up his.....well, we all saw how he is!

All in all, not a bad ep...not one of the greats either, but definitely interesting.

Pyrostrata wrote:Wonder how they are gonna work this plot-twist with Sari and her identity. Isaac did say near the end of Megatron Rising that he had something of great importance to tell her, but was never given the chance....hmmmm.....me wonders...

right...

So much dissing towards Sentinel. I know he's a jerk/bigot/etc., but still.

I haven't seen this much character bashing/hating since Kurata's true ambitions were revealed in Digimon Savers/Data Squad.

I really liked this episode- keep it up! No more humans! I think this is the actual begining of the series, now. Megatron has found a secret lair, more Autobots have arrived, Sari has an excuse for being on the show, and Dragon Ball esque story line put in. So I think this is a perfect way to start off this season.

My two favorite parts in the episode was when Sentinal got pounded by Grimlock and friends and when Optimus tolled off Sentinal.

Ultra Magnus is so badass he doesn't even need to move a circuit to blow the crap out of a group of robots. Can he control weather now? He doesn't even need to swing his hammer to kill stuff! Can he even move? I don't think he has ever moved an inch except when in his alt. mode. Has anyone else noticed this?

Sabrblade wrote:So much dissing towards Sentinel. I know he's a jerk/bigot/etc., but still.

I really enjoyed all the scenes that lousy glitchhead was in. He's a grade-A cyberclown.

Even those of you that don't like him, ... don'tcha think his mere presence makes previously annoying characters like Bumblebee and Optimus a lot more likable?

Sari is to use a G.I. Joe comparison a Synthoid like being with some of megatron spark injected into her to make her live. Also Prowl and jazz are kind of like snake eyes and storm shadow in that they belong to the same clan but unlike snake eyes and storm shadow they are not on oppisite sides of the conflict at least that is the feeling I get. I'm looking forward to the next episode in two weeks curse you cartoon network and your need to run ben ten again on sat.

I missed the first half, but here's what I got...

I hate Sentinel Prime, even though he looks like The Tick. I'm very happy that Optimus stepped to him. I always love seeing someone smug getting smacked down, so thatnk you DinoBots, it's about time you did something worth a dam.

The "Organic" thing, I get it from the BA episode, and thought it added alot to the individual interactions of this episode.

Jazz, I'm so happy that they wrote him right even though they F___ed up his design I'm actualy looking forward to a friendly ongoing competition between him and Prowl(who's been about the only one I realy liked thus far).

Ultra Magnus is Thor!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

ALRIGHT, YEAH

Rebuild the AllSpark, ok, we have a plot!

Little girl getting fired from her job...

Well, she may be guardian of the most powerful object on Cyberton, but it's nice to see someone on Earth have some sense and take a company away from her

I know I often am negative about this series, but I just want to once again say, I like the writing, I just wish the art work and origin tweeking would improve.

Did noone else get the part where Bumblebee says, "I guess that's why they call him Ultra Magnus!"? I believe this is a reference to the fandoms complaining about how every Ultra Magnus in recent years has just been a white Prime repaint and so are not worthy of the title "Ultra".

UltraPrimal wrote:Did noone else get the part where Bumblebee says, "I guess that's why they call him Ultra Magnus!"? I believe this is a reference to the fandoms complaining about how every Ultra Magnus in recent years has just been a white Prime repaint and so are not worthy of the title "Ultra".

Not every recent Ultra Magnus. Remember Titanium 6" G1 Ultra Magnus? He was a Prime repaint. But his vehicle mode was in scale with Hyrbid Style Convoy, though his robot mode wasn't.

Well, I'm happy to be getting some new characters!

Sentinel REALLY hates Optimus, doesn't he? It's ok, we need a little development in there. Jazz is cool, but he isn't quite as....cute as G1 Jazz. But then again, nobody is. And as for Ultra Magnus, what an upgrade! If he can't deal with something right now, it's because he is too busy being godlike and stuffs.

And it is a bit strange seeing the Cons wanting to rip off Autobot tech. Usually they have the upper hand in terms of technology, but ok. As long as it's not a crazy invention by the likes of Wheeljack or something..

Ok, I'm getting a bit incoherent. Great show!

Now things are getting more Cybertronian! I girly squealed when Megs reveals his intentions to use a spacebridge to take over Cybertron. Even though it wasn't the most action-packed episode I really felt like I was "home again" watching it. However, enough about it was new/changed that I feel like I am enjoying a totally new series. I also WTF about spacebridges being Autobot-only tech, but I'm open to it. I'm very excited that it has got in to Con hands!

Sentinal Prime not only doesn't seem like he belongs at the right hand of Magnus, but I truly think that he does NOT belong there. I think that Sentinal is the washout, or would have been by fair means. The episode highly suggests that Optimus and Sentinal are in a reverse role situation. I won't be surprised if later on it is revealed that Sentinal "switched papers" in a way with Optimus. In some yet to be revealed way, Sentinal cheated to get where he is and the rightful academy graduate, the rightful second in command of the Elite Guard is actually Optimus. Magnus is smart, I think he's suspecting something now too. One of the biggest themes in TF multiverse is leadership and the meaning of it. I can't wait to see what is coming along that line for the two Primes!

I want very much for Sentinal Prime to have a fall from grace. Megs can always use a disgruntled, over ambitious guy like that, even if Sentinal wouldn't know he was helping the 'con cause. In fact, that would be more fun.

shortround wrote:Sari is to use a G.I. Joe comparison a Synthoid like being with some of megatron spark injected into her to make her live. Also Prowl and jazz are kind of like snake eyes and storm shadow in that they belong to the same clan but unlike snake eyes and storm shadow they are not on oppisite sides of the conflict at least that is the feeling I get. I'm looking forward to the next episode in two weeks curse you cartoon network and your need to run ben ten again on sat.

Seriously Shortround, I think you are on to something there. The allspark spoke to Sari on just a few occasions, and the two most memorable things it has shown her were DNA and Megatron.

I also see the Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow comparison, with Jazz being more like a young Tommy. Will Jazz teaching Prowl more about Metalikato lead to Prowl becoming a greater ninja than Jazz? How will Jazz feel about that?

Unlike Sentinal Prime, I don't anticipate Jazz turning coats (intentionally or not) but I am enjoying the dynamic between him and Prowl. I like that it is not the same as the one between the two Primes. In this case, even if bad oil does brew, the two ninjas should eventually become "sword" brothers again. Note that both of them also love the organic side of Earth, and are facinated with it.

That was a Good one! The Autobots are toughening Up finally. Megatrons Face looks so much like G1 Megatrons Face Even down to the dark brows over his eyes right under his forehead plate. And thank God Megatron is up and walking and has a Base set up; It really felt like Transformers episode Finally. And this whole realization that pockets of the Allsparks Energy is scattered all over not just the city but the planet. I think we might see Megatron collecting A new version of what we know as....... Energon Cubes!
Wouldnt that be crazy?! JAzz is AWSOME! Jazz is Ninja now with nunchucks?!!
I like how Jazz and Prowl showed off for eacthother. And when Jazz said to Prime and Prowl " Mind if I join you?" , I knew right there he just officially became apart of their earth crew, He's here for good now! And They tried to give him that G1 Scatman Crothers vibe, smokey, jazzy some raspiness and Hip. Robert STACK is BACK as Ultra Magus! It was good to hear him. Ultra Magnus is like God with that Staff! At first I kept thinking he was holding up a Camera on a Pole like he was Filming something( i dunno ) It looks very ordinary for being what it is, But he can stop the World that thing! I wanna see how him and Megatron will fair with one another.

NiteStar wrote:Robert STACK is BACK as Ultra Magus! It was good to hear him.

you do realize that robert stack is dead?!

ThunderThruster wrote:

NiteStar wrote:Robert STACK is BACK as Ultra Magus! It was good to hear him.

you do realize that robert stack is dead?!

Silly. They brought him back to life just for this role.

ThunderThruster wrote:

NiteStar wrote:Robert STACK is BACK as Ultra Magus! It was good to hear him.

you do realize that robert stack is dead?!

No he isn't. That's Hasbro propaganda. They're hiding the truth! He's still alive, in a Hasbro prison. Made from Takara blocktown blocks.