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Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next?

Transformers News: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next?

Wednesday, October 17th, 2007 8:21PM CDT

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Posted by: i_amtrunks   Views: 45,526

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Our very own skywarp-2 has a follow up to his previous hunting around for more information on the Metallic Movie figures:

The next up will be the new and improved Voyager Metallic Prime, which is different from the Robovision version sold at Target, it is in the darker color scheme, no extra flames, but is in Metallic shinny paint..with a Shinny Metallic Thundercracker..

After that is a Metallic shinny Rescue Ratchet, and Thundercracker again..


skywarp-2 has also included some pictures for confirmation:



Many thanks to skywarp-2 for being thorough with his investigation.
Credit(s): skywarp-2

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Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407458)
Posted by i_amtrunks on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:24pm CDT
Front Paged and Credited.

Sportimus, skywarp stated that the pics on the "Also Available" figures were shiny, I'm guessing that the camera just does not portray this as well.

The Metallic Ratchet and Megatron do not look shiny either (thanks to the camera).
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407459)
Posted by omegaprimussupermode on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:25pm CDT
doubt theyd make two metallic versions of guys not even in the movie. the optimus looks a bit metallic
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407463)
Posted by skywarp-2 on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:28pm CDT
alh77 wrote:How much are these things?


well I can't buy the DVD because it is supposed to be an X-mas Present, which is cool, I'll just get it on Netflix, on my next que..

But I paid 20.00 dollars US for them, and if you bought th DVD you got 5.00 dollars off..
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407466)
Posted by Jazzz on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:29pm CDT
The Prime, Thundercracker and Ratchet are just the normal versions.
dangit, I was getting excited.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407467)
Posted by skywarp-2 on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:30pm CDT
Sportimus Prime wrote:You know, nowhere does it say "Metallic Voyager Optimus Prime/Thundercracker/Rescue Ratchet". It just says "Voyager Optimus Prime/Thundercracker/Rescue Ratchet". Just because they are on SE boxes doesn't mean those three are also going to be metallic. And, looking at the pictures, they don't look metallic at all. I think this is a bogus rumor based on misunderstanding.


no, I confirmed it with the manager, who took me to their little side computers which are at the end of the isles, and he showed me the sku with the information of the next ones coming in, it clearly said Optimus Prime and Thundercracker.. I ofcourse couldn't snap a shot of it with my Camera Phone, they probably would have thought me an industrial espionage spy or something...but Trust me.. I'm telling you guys the truth!!!
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407469)
Posted by Jazzz on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:31pm CDT
The photos for these normal figures are always shiny. how could somebody not know that?
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407473)
Posted by skywarp-2 on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:33pm CDT
i_amtrunks wrote:Front Paged and Credited.

Sportimus, skywarp stated that the pics on the "Also Available" figures were shiny, I'm guessing that the camera just does not portray this as well.

The Metallic Ratchet and Megatron do not look shiny either (thanks to the camera).


exactly.. and just cause they don't say metallic finish on the images doesn't mean that those guys aren't up next in their series.. from what the manager said they had alot of Thundercrackers....

My guess is they are probably an overstock from the repaints that wal-mart had or something like that...

one more thing to note, the boxes say Autobot ratchet, and Megatron.. those are the names of the characters, the super Metallic finish is down in the corner of the box.. now why would the images of the bottom of the box say Super Metallic Finish voyager Optimus Prime?? Or Super Metallic Finish Rescue ratchet?? Your buying the product that is super metallic finish, why would Hasbro advertise others that aren't in that super Metallic finish line for Best Buy??

I'm sticking to what I believe and what that Manager said to me and showed me on their inventory look up computer that was in the isles..
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407476)
Posted by shankz on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:34pm CDT
First post. Hello, hello.

Anyway, I was one who got a Megatron (the local best buy only had 2 of him, one of Ratchet btw). I just compared the pic of Thundercracker on the bottom to the pic on the box for Rescue Ratchet. Both pics have the same shine to them. I'm thinking those 3 are featured on the Best Buy boxes because they were the last 3 voyagers released. At least everywhere near me they were. I never saw Prime until Rescue Ratchet and Thundercracker came out.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407481)
Posted by Jazzz on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:37pm CDT
skywarp-2 wrote:
Sportimus Prime wrote:You know, nowhere does it say "Metallic Voyager Optimus Prime/Thundercracker/Rescue Ratchet". It just says "Voyager Optimus Prime/Thundercracker/Rescue Ratchet". Just because they are on SE boxes doesn't mean those three are also going to be metallic. And, looking at the pictures, they don't look metallic at all. I think this is a bogus rumor based on misunderstanding.


no, I confirmed it with the manager, who took me to their little side computers which are at the end of the isles, and he showed me the sku with the information of the next ones coming in, it clearly said Optimus Prime and Thundercracker.. I ofcourse couldn't snap a shot of it with my Camera Phone, they probably would have thought me an industrial espionage spy or something...but Trust me.. I'm telling you guys the truth!!!


Unless the manager at a Best Buy also worked for Hasbro, this isn't likely to be true.
Rescue Ratchet and Thundercracker weren't even in the movie so why would Hasbro spend good mony on repainting them with expensive shiny paint?
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407488)
Posted by skywarp-2 on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:40pm CDT
Jazzz wrote:
skywarp-2 wrote:
Sportimus Prime wrote:You know, nowhere does it say "Metallic Voyager Optimus Prime/Thundercracker/Rescue Ratchet". It just says "Voyager Optimus Prime/Thundercracker/Rescue Ratchet". Just because they are on SE boxes doesn't mean those three are also going to be metallic. And, looking at the pictures, they don't look metallic at all. I think this is a bogus rumor based on misunderstanding.


no, I confirmed it with the manager, who took me to their little side computers which are at the end of the isles, and he showed me the sku with the information of the next ones coming in, it clearly said Optimus Prime and Thundercracker.. I ofcourse couldn't snap a shot of it with my Camera Phone, they probably would have thought me an industrial espionage spy or something...but Trust me.. I'm telling you guys the truth!!!


Unless the manager at a Best Buy also worked for Hasbro, this isn't likely to be true.
Rescue Ratchet and Thundercracker weren't even in the movie so why would Hasbro spend good mony on repainting them with expensive shiny paint?


I don't know..... That's what the Manager said to me, and that's what I saw on the computer screen.. will someone else go to a Best Buy and have an employee look these items up!! I need a little back up and confirmation here, other wise sckeptics will never be satisfied [-( ...sigh... :BANG_HEAD:
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407489)
Posted by korean-ironhide on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:42pm CDT
i want leader class optimus metalic
voyager kinda sux
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407493)
Posted by Bluesummers on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:43pm CDT
I did see a load of Voyager Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker, and Megatron (not Prime, for some reason) at Wal-Mart today. They were normally painted, though, and packaged in vehicle form. Like shankz suggested, they may have been advertised just because they're recent.

Plus, why would they do a metal Ratchet, and then a metal Rescue Ratchet? A bit much IMO...
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407496)
Posted by i_amtrunks on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:45pm CDT
As Jazzz said, Best Buy Managers aren't going to know for certain, but Hasbro do love to repaint figures, and they obviously feel that the Ratchet and Starscream molds are two of their better selling figures, they have already repainted each figure twice. Voyager Prime is another popular repaint candidate.

For all those who doubt the authenticity of this, go ahead, it is a rumour for now, so take it as that. Just do not be surprised if it turns out to be true.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407497)
Posted by skywarp-2 on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:45pm CDT
shankz wrote:First post. Hello, hello.

Anyway, I was one who got a Megatron (the local best buy only had 2 of him, one of Ratchet btw). I just compared the pic of Thundercracker on the bottom to the pic on the box for Rescue Ratchet. Both pics have the same shine to them. I'm thinking those 3 are featured on the Best Buy boxes because they were the last 3 voyagers released. At least everywhere near me they were. I never saw Prime until Rescue Ratchet and Thundercracker came out.


actually, and congrats on the first post!! but the Voyager Optimus prime came out awhile ago, the images on the boxes aren't any indication of the metallic shine, you don't notice it really until your closer to them and in the light, but I will say that I am very confident that those figures on the back of th box are the next releases... I am not fibbing when i say i talked to th manager, and I was shown the next releases in their system said Optimus Prime and Thundercracker.. Now the shipment ETA on that screen was unknown...but the manager did say he expected them within a few more weeks or so..
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407511)
Posted by PrimeSuspect on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:51pm CDT
Metallic repaint Rescue Ratchet my ass, Hasbro. You wouldn't freaking dare do a repaint of a repaint based off of a seperate repaint. Pardon my language, but what the fuck is that?
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407515)
Posted by skywarp-2 on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:52pm CDT
I'll change the title to rumor if ya'll want me to... but I know what I was told and what I saw.. thanks for the credit trunks...don't shoot the messenger guys, I was just trying to report the info to you as fast as I could, i was still working when i posted a little teaser earlier today.. but i finally had to go to my parents house, take the shots of them from my Brother's desk, and race back to the office to post them to the site...phew....

so take it however you want, but I was trying to give those of you who haven't bought them yet, a heads up, that from what I was told and shown.. more are on the way..and what to expect..
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407522)
Posted by JTKranix on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:54pm CDT
I'm sorry, I don't believe it.

Just about every movie exclusive has "also available" on them with pictures of different figures that are not exclusive.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407534)
Posted by skywarp-2 on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:58pm CDT
JTKranix wrote:I'm sorry, I don't believe it.

Just about every movie exclusive has "also available" on them with pictures of different figures that are not exclusive.


tell you what, how about you take a trip to Best buy tomorrow, and find out from someone who works there.....

I took my lunch today to do that to find out an answer so that i could finally get some piece of mind and let ya'll know what I found out, since my earlier posts were hazy, 1 because of greygoose and Cranberry, the other because I was in a hurry with the lady at the store...so i went back to get the scoop from the Manager.. I'm still here arguing my validity.. and I should be home eating a nice dinner.. I'm starving myself for the fandom!!! ok, well, now I'm leaving work and going home, I'll be back later tonight.. see ya later guys.. :PEACE:
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407535)
Posted by Bigdaddymcqueen on October 17th, 2007 @ 8:58pm CDT
i'd like to see a metallic ironhide!!!
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407536)
Posted by JTKranix on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:03pm CDT
skywarp-2 wrote:
JTKranix wrote:I'm sorry, I don't believe it.

Just about every movie exclusive has "also available" on them with pictures of different figures that are not exclusive.


tell you what, how about you take a trip to Best buy tomorrow, and find out from someone who works there.....

I took my lunch today to do that to find out an answer so that i could finally get some piece of mind and let ya'll know what I found out, since my earlier posts were hazy, 1 because of greygoose and Cranberry, the other because I was in a hurry with the lady at the store...so i went back to get the scoop from the Manager.. I'm still here arguing my validity.. and I should be home eating a nice dinner.. I'm starving myself for the fandom!!! ok, well, now I'm leaving work and going home, I'll be back later tonight.. see ya later guys..


I'll tell you what, I made the trip to Best Buy on Tuesday and I got the same exclusives you did. I am looking at my exclusives and I am looking at my other voyagers and I see absolutly no difference.

I just can not believe some random manager at some random Best Buy has super secret inside information about these toys that he decided to share with you when no one else knows anything about them.

Yeah, I'd take the word of a manager from Best Buy who most likely knows next to nothing about Transformers as something to consider a rumor much less the truth.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407559)
Posted by Sportimus Prime on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:13pm CDT
skywarp-2 wrote:
Sportimus Prime wrote:You know, nowhere does it say "Metallic Voyager Optimus Prime/Thundercracker/Rescue Ratchet". It just says "Voyager Optimus Prime/Thundercracker/Rescue Ratchet". Just because they are on SE boxes doesn't mean those three are also going to be metallic. And, looking at the pictures, they don't look metallic at all. I think this is a bogus rumor based on misunderstanding.


no, I confirmed it with the manager, who took me to their little side computers which are at the end of the isles, and he showed me the sku with the information of the next ones coming in, it clearly said Optimus Prime and Thundercracker.. I ofcourse couldn't snap a shot of it with my Camera Phone, they probably would have thought me an industrial espionage spy or something...but Trust me.. I'm telling you guys the truth!!!


The Manager of a Best Buy does not work for Hasblo. BB may be getting Primes and Ratchets, but I still do not think they are metallic finishes, just normal Voyagers we all know and love. There has been no news of this officlally from Hasbro either as far as I know.

I could be wrong, and I don't mind if I am. But I can't help but be skeptical about this. Something just isn't right.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407563)
Posted by DeathNoble on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:15pm CDT
Watch us all be sitting around expecting another super metallic version of Voyager Prime and arguing about the dumb idea-edness of doing metallic Thundercracker & Nurse Ratchet and all the sudden the site about the premuim figures updates and we all go to read and find out from Hasbro themself, the next premuim figure to be released with metallic paint:








Payload.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407565)
Posted by Tekka on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:15pm CDT
Gawd, why do we need another Thundercracker? Is it too much to ask for a Skywarp?
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407567)
Posted by Sportimus Prime on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:17pm CDT
Bigdaddymcqueen wrote:i'd like to see a metallic ironhide!!!


Heck ya! Even better, a RED metallic Ironhide! :cool:
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407568)
Posted by jezones on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:18pm CDT
my only thought on this is that we saw images of the ratchet and magatron about a month ago maybe more. they were selling on ebay a month ago. the chinese factory workers leak these things out all the time(remember concept cliffjumper). the one thing i have learned in the last few months in this new hobby of mine is there are very few surprises. hasbro cant keep a secret if thier stocks depended on it. hell they probably leak stuff on purpose just to get the customer base hyped up. if these new figures were coming out in the next few weeks there would be pictures all over the place and they would be on ebay being sold by some guy from china. I do hope the rumor is true about prime, but another rescue ratchet and thundercracker(i have plenty of that mold)would just be over kill. but hey what do i know they might be there next week.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407569)
Posted by Bed Bugs on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:19pm CDT
The manager isn't the one getting the super secret info, it's the inventory system he looks the sku up on. If there is more than two transformers listed on a non-toy store's computer, I would think this is because they are getting two more exclusives.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407582)
Posted by JTKranix on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:23pm CDT
Fender Bender wrote:The manager isn't the one getting the super secret info, it's the inventory system he looks the sku up on. If there is more than two transformers listed on a non-toy store's computer, I would think this is because they are getting two more exclusives.


That makes it super easy then, Skywarp-2 can drive back to said Best Buy and get his manager buddy to let him snap a shot of the screen with the SKU's on it.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407589)
Posted by Briggs on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:27pm CDT
Er.. photos of figures on packages are misleading, almost every figure has some sort of shiny metallic look going on its package, compared to what you actually get. Some of them look down right amazing, then you get yours and slight dissapointment sets in.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407594)
Posted by Skowl on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:29pm CDT
Sportimus Prime wrote:You know, nowhere does it say "Metallic Voyager Optimus Prime/Thundercracker/Rescue Ratchet". It just says "Voyager Optimus Prime/Thundercracker/Rescue Ratchet". Just because they are on SE boxes doesn't mean those three are also going to be metallic. And, looking at the pictures, they don't look metallic at all. I think this is a bogus rumor based on misunderstanding.



I'm part of the news crew, and even I have to agree.

Nothing I see here tells me these are "Premium" series TFs(Thundercracker? Really?). The photos don't prove anything, and the word of a guy who works at a store isn't really reliable. I just tonight talked to a manager from Wal-Mart who tried to convince me that a loose, busted-up Ultimate Bumblebee they found in their stock room was an extremely rare Transformers from an old series...
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407598)
Posted by Lapse Of Reason on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:30pm CDT
Looking at the pictures on the bottom of my metallic megatron box, Rescue Ratchet and Thundercracker do not look any different than their regular releases. The pictures are small and it is hard to tell if there is or is not a metallic paint on these figures.

One thing I find odd is that Thundercracker is a Target exclusive, so why would it be pictured on any other non-Target package? This leads me to believe that maybe there is a difference from the verson released at Target and it just might be a metallic finish version. Hasbro did just say there will be more.

The pictures, however, are inconclusive.

The Best Buy manager may think he knows what he is talking about, but without official confirmation it is all speculation.

That being said, I hope it is true but take this news as a rumor for now.


Honestly, the only figures that would interest me are #1 Leader Megatron Vintage Finish, #2 Leader Blackout, #3 Voyager or Leader Bonecrusher.

A deluxe Jazz in metalic would be tempting too.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407600)
Posted by Sportimus Prime on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:32pm CDT
Although it would be kind of cool to see a more metallic Prime than Target's Robovision Prime. One thing that bothers me with the Voyager Prime figure in general is neither the RV Prime or the standard Prime's blue seem to be an accurate shade compared to movie Prime on screen. It would be nice if this were more accurate if it did turn out to be true (which I doubt). I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407608)
Posted by JTKranix on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:35pm CDT
Lapse Of Reason wrote:Looking at the pictures on the bottom of my metallic megatron box, Rescue Ratchet and Thundercracker do not look any different than their regular releases. The pictures are small and it is hard to tell if there is or is not a metallic paint on these figures.

One thing I find odd is that Thundercracker is a Target exclusive, so why would it be pictured on any other non-Target package? This leads me to believe that maybe there is a difference from the verson released at Target and it just might be a metallic finish version. Hasbro did just say there will be more.

The pictures, however, are inconclusive.

The Best Buy manager may think he knows what he is talking about, but without official confirmation it is all speculation.

That being said, I hope it is true but take this news as a rumor for now.


Honestly, the only figures that would interest me are #1 Leader Megatron Vintage Finish, #2 Leader Blackout, #3 Voyager or Leader Bonecrusher.

A deluxe Jazz in metalic would be tempting too.


Thundercracker isn't an exclusive, anywhere.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407618)
Posted by Lapse Of Reason on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:39pm CDT
JTKranix wrote:
Lapse Of Reason wrote:Looking at the pictures on the bottom of my metallic megatron box, Rescue Ratchet and Thundercracker do not look any different than their regular releases. The pictures are small and it is hard to tell if there is or is not a metallic paint on these figures.

One thing I find odd is that Thundercracker is a Target exclusive, so why would it be pictured on any other non-Target package? This leads me to believe that maybe there is a difference from the verson released at Target and it just might be a metallic finish version. Hasbro did just say there will be more.

The pictures, however, are inconclusive.

The Best Buy manager may think he knows what he is talking about, but without official confirmation it is all speculation.

That being said, I hope it is true but take this news as a rumor for now.


Honestly, the only figures that would interest me are #1 Leader Megatron Vintage Finish, #2 Leader Blackout, #3 Voyager or Leader Bonecrusher.

A deluxe Jazz in metalic would be tempting too.


Thundercracker isn't an exclusive, anywhere.


My mistake. You are right, G1 Starscream is the exclusive. #-o
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407619)
Posted by JTKranix on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:40pm CDT
My mistake. You are right, G1 Starscream is the exclusive. #-o


See how rumors like this get started! :)
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407656)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:52pm CDT
Everyone wants to string up Skywarp, right off the bat and it's not fair.

Let's go over the facts here for a moment.

1.) It was officially stated that Best Buy would be carrying a line of exclusive "premium" repainted figures. Not just Megatron and Ratchet.

2.) Skywarp is taking this from info he was given from the manager, and the computer. (I repeat, info from the manager and the computer, not Skywarp himself.)

3.) Hasbro is known for odd moves involving repaints and remolds, no matter the retailer.

It's understandable to be skeptical, it's understandable to be confused.

However, it is *not* understandable why everyone is dogpiling on Skywarp. He only delivered the info he was given, he didn't make it up (he has no reason to, plus his track record proves that he isn't a troll) and if anyone's to blame...blame Best Buy's computers and the manager that gave him this info without more substantial proof.

You people owe Skywarp an apology. It's one thing to be angry about the situation, but it's another to take it out on him.

"Don't kill the messenger" does anyone get that? What is this? A firing squad? He doesn't owe you anything (no one owes you anything, as a matter of fact), and you need to quit acting like it.

What's wrong with you people? Disgusting behavior, people. Disgusting.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407663)
Posted by Bed Bugs on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:55pm CDT
Autobot032 wrote:Everyone wants to string up Skywarp, right off the bat and it's not fair.

Let's go over the facts here for a moment.

1.) It was officially stated that Best Buy would be carrying a line of exclusive "premium" repainted figures. Not just Megatron and Ratchet.

2.) Skywarp is taking this from info he was given from the manager, and the computer. (I repeat, info from the manager and the computer, not Skywarp himself.)

3.) Hasbro is known for odd moves involving repaints and remolds, no matter the retailer.

It's understandable to be skeptical, it's understandable to be confused.

However, it is *not* understandable why everyone is dogpiling on Skywarp. He only delivered the info he was given, he didn't make it up (he has no reason to, plus his track record proves that he isn't a troll) and if anyone's to blame...blame Best Buy's computers and the manager that gave him this info without more substantial proof.

You people owe Skywarp an apology. It's one thing to be angry about the situation, but it's another to take it out on him.

"Don't kill the messenger" does anyone get that? What is this? A firing squad? He doesn't owe you anything (no one owes you anything, as a matter of fact), and you need to quit acting like it.

What's wrong with you people? Disgusting behavior, people. Disgusting.


#1 is wrong. Hasbro officially said that these two Best Buy figures are the first releases of the Premium Series. No where does it state that Best Buy will be the exclusive vendor of the entire Premium Series.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407667)
Posted by JTKranix on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:56pm CDT
Autobot032 wrote:Everyone wants to string up Skywarp, right off the bat and it's not fair.

Let's go over the facts here for a moment.

1.) It was officially stated that Best Buy would be carrying a line of exclusive "premium" repainted figures. Not just Megatron and Ratchet.

2.) Skywarp is taking this from info he was given from the manager, and the computer. (I repeat, info from the manager and the computer, not Skywarp himself.)

3.) Hasbro is known for odd moves involving repaints and remolds, no matter the retailer.

It's understandable to be skeptical, it's understandable to be confused.

However, it is *not* understandable why everyone is dogpiling on Skywarp. He only delivered the info he was given, he didn't make it up (he has no reason to, plus his track record proves that he isn't a troll) and if anyone's to blame...blame Best Buy's computers and the manager that gave him this info without more substantial proof.

You people owe Skywarp an apology. It's one thing to be angry about the situation, but it's another to take it out on him.

"Don't kill the messenger" does anyone get that? What is this? A firing squad? He doesn't owe you anything (no one owes you anything, as a matter of fact), and you need to quit acting like it.

What's wrong with you people? Disgusting behavior, people. Disgusting.


Where was it officially stated that Best Buy would carry the entire premium line?

Also, I'm not going to apologize. I didn't do anything other than say I don't believe it. I didn't call him a liar.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407673)
Posted by Bed Bugs on October 17th, 2007 @ 9:58pm CDT
Beat you by a minute JTKranix. :P
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407721)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 17th, 2007 @ 10:13pm CDT
Fender Bender wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Everyone wants to string up Skywarp, right off the bat and it's not fair.

Let's go over the facts here for a moment.

1.) It was officially stated that Best Buy would be carrying a line of exclusive "premium" repainted figures. Not just Megatron and Ratchet.

2.) Skywarp is taking this from info he was given from the manager, and the computer. (I repeat, info from the manager and the computer, not Skywarp himself.)

3.) Hasbro is known for odd moves involving repaints and remolds, no matter the retailer.

It's understandable to be skeptical, it's understandable to be confused.

However, it is *not* understandable why everyone is dogpiling on Skywarp. He only delivered the info he was given, he didn't make it up (he has no reason to, plus his track record proves that he isn't a troll) and if anyone's to blame...blame Best Buy's computers and the manager that gave him this info without more substantial proof.

You people owe Skywarp an apology. It's one thing to be angry about the situation, but it's another to take it out on him.

"Don't kill the messenger" does anyone get that? What is this? A firing squad? He doesn't owe you anything (no one owes you anything, as a matter of fact), and you need to quit acting like it.

What's wrong with you people? Disgusting behavior, people. Disgusting.


#1 is wrong. Hasbro officially said that these two Best Buy figures are the first releases of the Premium Series. No where does it state that Best Buy will be the exclusive vendor of the entire Premium Series.


JTKranix wrote:Where was it officially stated that Best Buy would carry the entire premium line?

Also, I'm not going to apologize. I didn't do anything other than say I don't believe it. I didn't call him a liar.


I was incorrect on the Best Buy thing. I misread the news blurb earlier. I was wrong on that one, sorry. The rest of it however, plus the fact that there is going to be a premium line is still truth.

You didn't call him a liar Kranix, but you're right there along with the rest of the people ready to get out the pitchforks and lynch him.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407733)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on October 17th, 2007 @ 10:16pm CDT
Outside of Megs, I can't say I care.

But wasn't this front paged a day or two ago?
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Also, SkyWarp-2 has never been anything but intutitive and acurate in my experiences. Not only that, but he digs deep to show acurate information and imagry in a unbiase attempt to share in whatever threads he posts in. He makes it a point to always go an extra mile!

WE are lucky to have members like this to share with and learn from!
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407737)
Posted by Bed Bugs on October 17th, 2007 @ 10:17pm CDT
I'm still skeptical though.

Part of me thinks, yes, there will be more Best Buy exclusives as there are 4 listings in the computer, which would make no sense since there are only two toys out now.

Part of me also thinks, no, this was a typo in the system as there would be no reason for Best Buy to get another set of exclusives as these two were released to go with the DVD.

One possible solution to that problem may be a possible 2 pack release closer the Christmas featuring the Original 87 movie with the '07 movie. I could realistically see this occuring as a Best Buy exclusive and two more toys to go with it. :-?
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407746)
Posted by Sportimus Prime on October 17th, 2007 @ 10:19pm CDT
Autobot032 wrote:Everyone wants to string up Skywarp, right off the bat and it's not fair.

*****

However, it is *not* understandable why everyone is dogpiling on Skywarp. He only delivered the info he was given, he didn't make it up (he has no reason to, plus his track record proves that he isn't a troll) and if anyone's to blame...blame Best Buy's computers and the manager that gave him this info without more substantial proof.

You people owe Skywarp an apology. It's one thing to be angry about the situation, but it's another to take it out on him.

"Don't kill the messenger" does anyone get that? What is this? A firing squad? He doesn't owe you anything (no one owes you anything, as a matter of fact), and you need to quit acting like it.

What's wrong with you people? Disgusting behavior, people. Disgusting.


I don't think anyone is dogpiling Skywarp. I personally think Skywarp is cool. I said, as did others that the info may be incorrect. No one is calling him a liar, nor should they.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407787)
Posted by Zeds on October 17th, 2007 @ 10:39pm CDT
They did Tcracker before Starscream why? Already a repaint with Rescue Ratchet! GEEZ!
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407803)
Posted by skywarp-2 on October 17th, 2007 @ 10:50pm CDT
Thanks for the support guys.. and it's not my wish to have those figures on the back of the box released through Best Buy any more then any of you would want. I don't see that how that best buy would not get the Optimus prime Voyager, and him not be metallic, i mean the premium line has only been announced through best buy so far.. though it hasn't been said it wouldn't show up at other retailers, but the whole "Robovision" thing is exclusive to target as a name which they release repaints and other such exclusives under, so why can't Best buy have the exclusive rights to the "Premium" name??

I would have opted for a Metallic repaint of Starscream as Skywarp, rather then another Thundercracker, but that's just me.. it doesn't make sense to see the Thundercracker and Rescue Ratchet as Metallics...but that's what i saw, that's what the store manager said, and that is what i relayed back to you guys..

I am glad to see people sticking up for me, it's nice to know there are people out there who have been keeping track of what i am all about, and that is not lying to you, or trying to be a big "somebody" on this forum.. I'm here simply to enjoy what we all hold as a wonderful hobby.. collecting, watching, reading, living and some of us breathing transformers...you guys who sniff them as you open the packages know who you are... :)


anyways.. i would have loved a skywarp or a Bumblebee metallic, and a jazz or Barricade metallic.. i think the metallic sheen makes the figure look more G-1-ish, toy wise (hinting back to the diecast roots) and more realistic like a real waxed and shiny car would be like..

If the Premium line up isn't just relegated to metallic coloring, i hope they can get the license to sell the updated realisitc Blackout voyager repaint.. that I would buy in a heart beat and sell off all my regulars...
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407805)
Posted by kitonight on October 17th, 2007 @ 10:51pm CDT
ALSO AVAILABLE does not mean comming soon
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407836)
Posted by skywarp-2 on October 17th, 2007 @ 11:08pm CDT
Here is what i think is cool, that there is a possability of a Metallics Voyager Prime coming..

If you look at this image there from Remy's site, you can see the Robovision prime and his metallic colors actually pale in comparison to the Best buy Exclusive Megatron..I would kill to have a good working digital camera for this such discussion..

anyways, the Robovision is quite cool looking, but way too light, and not as metallic and shiny as Megatron is..
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On the other hand, here is the Optimus Prime voyager, without the metallic colors, lighter blue, and extra flames.. he looks good, but is very dull compared to megatron...this Optimus is the plain old regular voyager..
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So long story short, the Robovision is okay, the Voyager has a more movie type paint scheme and is a bit darker, but a Metallic of the plain old voyager would look absolutely wonderful, and would be a compliment to that Megatron.. It makes sense....it makes sense that Best Buy would do a Metallic Prime, they did Ratchet and Megatron why not him and Thundercracker next??

the Rescue ratchet and Thundercrakcer are kinda iffy... Where is Skywarp?? I'll bet he ends up at Botcon 08.. I'll pay soemone whose going to get him for me if that's the case...

By the way, Leader Optimus Aside, these figures from Best buy are the absolute crown jewel of my movie collection.. :grin:

My recommendation is get to them while you can..


Also here is what the official hasbro site says about the premium line...they mention Leader class and deluxe as well...!!!!!!!!

TRANSFORMERS Premium Series Rolls Out at Best Buy

As if the TRANSFORMERS movie toys weren’t cool enough…
Beginning October 16, you can complete your TRANSFORMERS movie collection with the TRANSFORMERS Action Figure Premium Series. This collection of the best characters across Movie Deluxe, Voyager and Leader classes features premium deco treatments and finishes to create the ultimate movie figures. Check back for news at http://www.transformers.com throughout the first half of 2008 to learn about more Movie Premium Series figures.


The Series launches with two Movie Voyager figures available exclusively at Best Buy for the launch of the TRANSFORMERS movie DVD on October 16. AUTOBOT RATCHET and MEGATRON each feature limited-edition metallic deco and are packed in Robot-mode in premium display package.

http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/defa ... C59BFD2BE0


We may yet get that Metallic Premium Leader Megatron, which would so beat the Voyager out.. but fo now the Voyager is the best ever!! I love the white ice on the super shinny silver body..oooohhhh yeah!!!
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407876)
Posted by skywarp-2 on October 17th, 2007 @ 11:34pm CDT
Also check this review of Ratchet out.. the reviewer site's a difference in the Premium Ratchet..not sure if this is mistransformation on his part or if this is indeed the case.. let me know what you guys know about this:
http://tformers.com/reviews.php?op=showcontent&id=852

The robot mode is where this one has some added benefit. Strangely enough, I also found a slight improvement with the mold. On the original, the windshield split and sat on his sides. With the metallic version, you can actually swing the glass all the way to his backside. This does help out the look quite a bit. Not sure if this was also incorporated into Rescue Ratchet as well. If someone knows, please tell.


Premium Ratchet actually looks like he stepped ofgf the screen and on to my desk, it's a wonder how much difference a new paint scheme can make a figure look...


I gotta add this for those who don't have them yet...

eBay has great prices on the Metallic best Buy toys, get them as fast as you can.. they aren't in price gouge mode yet.. hurry up!!! before they are gone, or cost a mint!!!



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Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407953)
Posted by videriant on October 18th, 2007 @ 12:53am CDT
skywarp-2 wrote:
Also here is what the official hasbro site says about the premium line...they mention Leader class and deluxe as well...!!!!!!!!

This collection of the best characters across Movie Deluxe, Voyager and Leader classes features premium deco treatments and finishes to create the ultimate movie figures.


ROFL. I'm sorry, but this has to be one of the best line of advertising BS ever. If you remember, when we first heard about the metallic specials, original ratchet was shelfwarming the walmarts. The conversation probably went like this.

Hasbro Employee 1: So WTF do we repaint Megatron as? Crappy-looking-bird-ticon?
Hasbro Employee 2: Let's just do a robovision version like prime.
1: I don't know if that's enough. He's getting a lot of hate from the fans.
2: Well, what about making him super shiny and calling him a fan favorite.
1: Great idea, let's do the same thing for ratchet, he's selling the slowest out of the voyagers we have now.
2: What about ironhide, maybe the same for him, or make him red G1-style.
1: Whatever, he's the best voyager out right now. We could paint him blue and they'd still buy him.

(three months later)
2: The suckers are eating this metallic repaint up, let's do the same thing for all the crappy characters, keep calling them fan favorites, and make it a whole premium exclusive line.
1: Great!!! I was kinda stressed out about how to re-release the payload mold. Metallic premium Payload it is. Can you say cha-ching?
2: Thundercracker's doing well. Should we do skywarp next.
1: Nah, we already done the mold three times and with battle-damage Starscream, battle-damage G1 Starscream, battle-damage metallic G1 starscream, and Sunstorm coming out nobody'll want a skywarp.
2: Next problem then, we've got the battle pack bumblebees for January and February 08. Which 10 bumblebees are we releasing the 10 months after that.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (407984)
Posted by bran10 on October 18th, 2007 @ 1:26am CDT
excited about tc, sorta with ratchet cus i got the metallic green one, should i get this rescue one? forget backpack prime.... and i still dont like him.
Re: Rumour: Rescue Ratchet, Thundercracker and Optimus Prime to get Metallic Treatment next? (408165)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 18th, 2007 @ 5:00am CDT
skywarp-2 wrote:Also check this review of Ratchet out.. the reviewer site's a difference in the Premium Ratchet..not sure if this is mistransformation on his part or if this is indeed the case.. let me know what you guys know about this:
http://tformers.com/reviews.php?op=showcontent&id=852

The robot mode is where this one has some added benefit. Strangely enough, I also found a slight improvement with the mold. On the original, the windshield split and sat on his sides. With the metallic version, you can actually swing the glass all the way to his backside. This does help out the look quite a bit. Not sure if this was also incorporated into Rescue Ratchet as well. If someone knows, please tell.


The reviewer is wrong. The original Ratchet (and Rescue Ratchet) and this Premium one all share the same mold. The windows swing back on mine as well.

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