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Gawd, why do we need another Thundercracker? Is it too much to ask for a Skywarp?

Bigdaddymcqueen wrote:i'd like to see a metallic ironhide!!!

Heck ya! Even better, a RED metallic Ironhide!

my only thought on this is that we saw images of the ratchet and magatron about a month ago maybe more. they were selling on ebay a month ago. the chinese factory workers leak these things out all the time(remember concept cliffjumper). the one thing i have learned in the last few months in this new hobby of mine is there are very few surprises. hasbro cant keep a secret if thier stocks depended on it. hell they probably leak stuff on purpose just to get the customer base hyped up. if these new figures were coming out in the next few weeks there would be pictures all over the place and they would be on ebay being sold by some guy from china. I do hope the rumor is true about prime, but another rescue ratchet and thundercracker(i have plenty of that mold)would just be over kill. but hey what do i know they might be there next week.

The manager isn't the one getting the super secret info, it's the inventory system he looks the sku up on. If there is more than two transformers listed on a non-toy store's computer, I would think this is because they are getting two more exclusives.

Fender Bender wrote:The manager isn't the one getting the super secret info, it's the inventory system he looks the sku up on. If there is more than two transformers listed on a non-toy store's computer, I would think this is because they are getting two more exclusives.

That makes it super easy then, Skywarp-2 can drive back to said Best Buy and get his manager buddy to let him snap a shot of the screen with the SKU's on it.

Er.. photos of figures on packages are misleading, almost every figure has some sort of shiny metallic look going on its package, compared to what you actually get. Some of them look down right amazing, then you get yours and slight dissapointment sets in.

Sportimus Prime wrote:You know, nowhere does it say "Metallic Voyager Optimus Prime/Thundercracker/Rescue Ratchet". It just says "Voyager Optimus Prime/Thundercracker/Rescue Ratchet". Just because they are on SE boxes doesn't mean those three are also going to be metallic. And, looking at the pictures, they don't look metallic at all. I think this is a bogus rumor based on misunderstanding.

I'm part of the news crew, and even I have to agree.

Nothing I see here tells me these are "Premium" series TFs(Thundercracker? Really?). The photos don't prove anything, and the word of a guy who works at a store isn't really reliable. I just tonight talked to a manager from Wal-Mart who tried to convince me that a loose, busted-up Ultimate Bumblebee they found in their stock room was an extremely rare Transformers from an old series...

Looking at the pictures on the bottom of my metallic megatron box, Rescue Ratchet and Thundercracker do not look any different than their regular releases. The pictures are small and it is hard to tell if there is or is not a metallic paint on these figures.

One thing I find odd is that Thundercracker is a Target exclusive, so why would it be pictured on any other non-Target package? This leads me to believe that maybe there is a difference from the verson released at Target and it just might be a metallic finish version. Hasbro did just say there will be more.

The pictures, however, are inconclusive.

The Best Buy manager may think he knows what he is talking about, but without official confirmation it is all speculation.

That being said, I hope it is true but take this news as a rumor for now.


Honestly, the only figures that would interest me are #1 Leader Megatron Vintage Finish, #2 Leader Blackout, #3 Voyager or Leader Bonecrusher.

A deluxe Jazz in metalic would be tempting too.

Although it would be kind of cool to see a more metallic Prime than Target's Robovision Prime. One thing that bothers me with the Voyager Prime figure in general is neither the RV Prime or the standard Prime's blue seem to be an accurate shade compared to movie Prime on screen. It would be nice if this were more accurate if it did turn out to be true (which I doubt). I guess we will just have to wait and see.

Lapse Of Reason wrote:Looking at the pictures on the bottom of my metallic megatron box, Rescue Ratchet and Thundercracker do not look any different than their regular releases. The pictures are small and it is hard to tell if there is or is not a metallic paint on these figures.

One thing I find odd is that Thundercracker is a Target exclusive, so why would it be pictured on any other non-Target package? This leads me to believe that maybe there is a difference from the verson released at Target and it just might be a metallic finish version. Hasbro did just say there will be more.

The pictures, however, are inconclusive.

The Best Buy manager may think he knows what he is talking about, but without official confirmation it is all speculation.

That being said, I hope it is true but take this news as a rumor for now.


Honestly, the only figures that would interest me are #1 Leader Megatron Vintage Finish, #2 Leader Blackout, #3 Voyager or Leader Bonecrusher.

A deluxe Jazz in metalic would be tempting too.

Thundercracker isn't an exclusive, anywhere.

JTKranix wrote:

Lapse Of Reason wrote:Looking at the pictures on the bottom of my metallic megatron box, Rescue Ratchet and Thundercracker do not look any different than their regular releases. The pictures are small and it is hard to tell if there is or is not a metallic paint on these figures.

One thing I find odd is that Thundercracker is a Target exclusive, so why would it be pictured on any other non-Target package? This leads me to believe that maybe there is a difference from the verson released at Target and it just might be a metallic finish version. Hasbro did just say there will be more.

The pictures, however, are inconclusive.

The Best Buy manager may think he knows what he is talking about, but without official confirmation it is all speculation.

That being said, I hope it is true but take this news as a rumor for now.


Honestly, the only figures that would interest me are #1 Leader Megatron Vintage Finish, #2 Leader Blackout, #3 Voyager or Leader Bonecrusher.

A deluxe Jazz in metalic would be tempting too.

Thundercracker isn't an exclusive, anywhere.

My mistake. You are right, G1 Starscream is the exclusive.

My mistake. You are right, G1 Starscream is the exclusive.

See how rumors like this get started!

Everyone wants to string up Skywarp, right off the bat and it's not fair.

Let's go over the facts here for a moment.

1.) It was officially stated that Best Buy would be carrying a line of exclusive "premium" repainted figures. Not just Megatron and Ratchet.

2.) Skywarp is taking this from info he was given from the manager, and the computer. (I repeat, info from the manager and the computer, not Skywarp himself.)

3.) Hasbro is known for odd moves involving repaints and remolds, no matter the retailer.

It's understandable to be skeptical, it's understandable to be confused.

However, it is *not* understandable why everyone is dogpiling on Skywarp. He only delivered the info he was given, he didn't make it up (he has no reason to, plus his track record proves that he isn't a troll) and if anyone's to blame...blame Best Buy's computers and the manager that gave him this info without more substantial proof.

You people owe Skywarp an apology. It's one thing to be angry about the situation, but it's another to take it out on him.

"Don't kill the messenger" does anyone get that? What is this? A firing squad? He doesn't owe you anything (no one owes you anything, as a matter of fact), and you need to quit acting like it.

What's wrong with you people? Disgusting behavior, people. Disgusting.

Autobot032 wrote:Everyone wants to string up Skywarp, right off the bat and it's not fair.

Let's go over the facts here for a moment.

1.) It was officially stated that Best Buy would be carrying a line of exclusive "premium" repainted figures. Not just Megatron and Ratchet.

2.) Skywarp is taking this from info he was given from the manager, and the computer. (I repeat, info from the manager and the computer, not Skywarp himself.)

3.) Hasbro is known for odd moves involving repaints and remolds, no matter the retailer.

It's understandable to be skeptical, it's understandable to be confused.

However, it is *not* understandable why everyone is dogpiling on Skywarp. He only delivered the info he was given, he didn't make it up (he has no reason to, plus his track record proves that he isn't a troll) and if anyone's to blame...blame Best Buy's computers and the manager that gave him this info without more substantial proof.

You people owe Skywarp an apology. It's one thing to be angry about the situation, but it's another to take it out on him.

"Don't kill the messenger" does anyone get that? What is this? A firing squad? He doesn't owe you anything (no one owes you anything, as a matter of fact), and you need to quit acting like it.

What's wrong with you people? Disgusting behavior, people. Disgusting.

#1 is wrong. Hasbro officially said that these two Best Buy figures are the first releases of the Premium Series. No where does it state that Best Buy will be the exclusive vendor of the entire Premium Series.

Autobot032 wrote:Everyone wants to string up Skywarp, right off the bat and it's not fair.

Let's go over the facts here for a moment.

1.) It was officially stated that Best Buy would be carrying a line of exclusive "premium" repainted figures. Not just Megatron and Ratchet.

2.) Skywarp is taking this from info he was given from the manager, and the computer. (I repeat, info from the manager and the computer, not Skywarp himself.)

3.) Hasbro is known for odd moves involving repaints and remolds, no matter the retailer.

It's understandable to be skeptical, it's understandable to be confused.

However, it is *not* understandable why everyone is dogpiling on Skywarp. He only delivered the info he was given, he didn't make it up (he has no reason to, plus his track record proves that he isn't a troll) and if anyone's to blame...blame Best Buy's computers and the manager that gave him this info without more substantial proof.

You people owe Skywarp an apology. It's one thing to be angry about the situation, but it's another to take it out on him.

"Don't kill the messenger" does anyone get that? What is this? A firing squad? He doesn't owe you anything (no one owes you anything, as a matter of fact), and you need to quit acting like it.

What's wrong with you people? Disgusting behavior, people. Disgusting.

Where was it officially stated that Best Buy would carry the entire premium line?

Also, I'm not going to apologize. I didn't do anything other than say I don't believe it. I didn't call him a liar.

Beat you by a minute JTKranix.

Fender Bender wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Everyone wants to string up Skywarp, right off the bat and it's not fair.

Let's go over the facts here for a moment.

1.) It was officially stated that Best Buy would be carrying a line of exclusive "premium" repainted figures. Not just Megatron and Ratchet.

2.) Skywarp is taking this from info he was given from the manager, and the computer. (I repeat, info from the manager and the computer, not Skywarp himself.)

3.) Hasbro is known for odd moves involving repaints and remolds, no matter the retailer.

It's understandable to be skeptical, it's understandable to be confused.

However, it is *not* understandable why everyone is dogpiling on Skywarp. He only delivered the info he was given, he didn't make it up (he has no reason to, plus his track record proves that he isn't a troll) and if anyone's to blame...blame Best Buy's computers and the manager that gave him this info without more substantial proof.

You people owe Skywarp an apology. It's one thing to be angry about the situation, but it's another to take it out on him.

"Don't kill the messenger" does anyone get that? What is this? A firing squad? He doesn't owe you anything (no one owes you anything, as a matter of fact), and you need to quit acting like it.

What's wrong with you people? Disgusting behavior, people. Disgusting.

#1 is wrong. Hasbro officially said that these two Best Buy figures are the first releases of the Premium Series. No where does it state that Best Buy will be the exclusive vendor of the entire Premium Series.

JTKranix wrote:Where was it officially stated that Best Buy would carry the entire premium line?

Also, I'm not going to apologize. I didn't do anything other than say I don't believe it. I didn't call him a liar.

I was incorrect on the Best Buy thing. I misread the news blurb earlier. I was wrong on that one, sorry. The rest of it however, plus the fact that there is going to be a premium line is still truth.

You didn't call him a liar Kranix, but you're right there along with the rest of the people ready to get out the pitchforks and lynch him.

Outside of Megs, I can't say I care.

But wasn't this front paged a day or two ago?
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Also, SkyWarp-2 has never been anything but intutitive and acurate in my experiences. Not only that, but he digs deep to show acurate information and imagry in a unbiase attempt to share in whatever threads he posts in. He makes it a point to always go an extra mile!

WE are lucky to have members like this to share with and learn from!

I'm still skeptical though.

Part of me thinks, yes, there will be more Best Buy exclusives as there are 4 listings in the computer, which would make no sense since there are only two toys out now.

Part of me also thinks, no, this was a typo in the system as there would be no reason for Best Buy to get another set of exclusives as these two were released to go with the DVD.

One possible solution to that problem may be a possible 2 pack release closer the Christmas featuring the Original 87 movie with the '07 movie. I could realistically see this occuring as a Best Buy exclusive and two more toys to go with it.

Autobot032 wrote:Everyone wants to string up Skywarp, right off the bat and it's not fair.

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However, it is *not* understandable why everyone is dogpiling on Skywarp. He only delivered the info he was given, he didn't make it up (he has no reason to, plus his track record proves that he isn't a troll) and if anyone's to blame...blame Best Buy's computers and the manager that gave him this info without more substantial proof.

You people owe Skywarp an apology. It's one thing to be angry about the situation, but it's another to take it out on him.

"Don't kill the messenger" does anyone get that? What is this? A firing squad? He doesn't owe you anything (no one owes you anything, as a matter of fact), and you need to quit acting like it.

What's wrong with you people? Disgusting behavior, people. Disgusting.

I don't think anyone is dogpiling Skywarp. I personally think Skywarp is cool. I said, as did others that the info may be incorrect. No one is calling him a liar, nor should they.

They did Tcracker before Starscream why? Already a repaint with Rescue Ratchet! GEEZ!

Thanks for the support guys.. and it's not my wish to have those figures on the back of the box released through Best Buy any more then any of you would want. I don't see that how that best buy would not get the Optimus prime Voyager, and him not be metallic, i mean the premium line has only been announced through best buy so far.. though it hasn't been said it wouldn't show up at other retailers, but the whole "Robovision" thing is exclusive to target as a name which they release repaints and other such exclusives under, so why can't Best buy have the exclusive rights to the "Premium" name??

I would have opted for a Metallic repaint of Starscream as Skywarp, rather then another Thundercracker, but that's just me.. it doesn't make sense to see the Thundercracker and Rescue Ratchet as Metallics...but that's what i saw, that's what the store manager said, and that is what i relayed back to you guys..

I am glad to see people sticking up for me, it's nice to know there are people out there who have been keeping track of what i am all about, and that is not lying to you, or trying to be a big "somebody" on this forum.. I'm here simply to enjoy what we all hold as a wonderful hobby.. collecting, watching, reading, living and some of us breathing transformers...you guys who sniff them as you open the packages know who you are...


anyways.. i would have loved a skywarp or a Bumblebee metallic, and a jazz or Barricade metallic.. i think the metallic sheen makes the figure look more G-1-ish, toy wise (hinting back to the diecast roots) and more realistic like a real waxed and shiny car would be like..

If the Premium line up isn't just relegated to metallic coloring, i hope they can get the license to sell the updated realisitc Blackout voyager repaint.. that I would buy in a heart beat and sell off all my regulars...

ALSO AVAILABLE does not mean comming soon

Here is what i think is cool, that there is a possability of a Metallics Voyager Prime coming..

If you look at this image there from Remy's site, you can see the Robovision prime and his metallic colors actually pale in comparison to the Best buy Exclusive Megatron..I would kill to have a good working digital camera for this such discussion..

anyways, the Robovision is quite cool looking, but way too light, and not as metallic and shiny as Megatron is..


On the other hand, here is the Optimus Prime voyager, without the metallic colors, lighter blue, and extra flames.. he looks good, but is very dull compared to megatron...this Optimus is the plain old regular voyager..


So long story short, the Robovision is okay, the Voyager has a more movie type paint scheme and is a bit darker, but a Metallic of the plain old voyager would look absolutely wonderful, and would be a compliment to that Megatron.. It makes sense....it makes sense that Best Buy would do a Metallic Prime, they did Ratchet and Megatron why not him and Thundercracker next??

the Rescue ratchet and Thundercrakcer are kinda iffy... Where is Skywarp?? I'll bet he ends up at Botcon 08.. I'll pay soemone whose going to get him for me if that's the case...

By the way, Leader Optimus Aside, these figures from Best buy are the absolute crown jewel of my movie collection..

My recommendation is get to them while you can..


Also here is what the official hasbro site says about the premium line...they mention Leader class and deluxe as well...!!!!!!!!

TRANSFORMERS Premium Series Rolls Out at Best Buy

As if the TRANSFORMERS movie toys weren’t cool enough…
Beginning October 16, you can complete your TRANSFORMERS movie collection with the TRANSFORMERS Action Figure Premium Series. This collection of the best characters across Movie Deluxe, Voyager and Leader classes features premium deco treatments and finishes to create the ultimate movie figures. Check back for news at http://www.transformers.com throughout the first half of 2008 to learn about more Movie Premium Series figures.


The Series launches with two Movie Voyager figures available exclusively at Best Buy for the launch of the TRANSFORMERS movie DVD on October 16. AUTOBOT RATCHET and MEGATRON each feature limited-edition metallic deco and are packed in Robot-mode in premium display package.

http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/defa ... C59BFD2BE0


We may yet get that Metallic Premium Leader Megatron, which would so beat the Voyager out.. but fo now the Voyager is the best ever!! I love the white ice on the super shinny silver body..oooohhhh yeah!!!

Also check this review of Ratchet out.. the reviewer site's a difference in the Premium Ratchet..not sure if this is mistransformation on his part or if this is indeed the case.. let me know what you guys know about this:
http://tformers.com/reviews.php?op=showcontent&id=852

The robot mode is where this one has some added benefit. Strangely enough, I also found a slight improvement with the mold. On the original, the windshield split and sat on his sides. With the metallic version, you can actually swing the glass all the way to his backside. This does help out the look quite a bit. Not sure if this was also incorporated into Rescue Ratchet as well. If someone knows, please tell.

Premium Ratchet actually looks like he stepped ofgf the screen and on to my desk, it's a wonder how much difference a new paint scheme can make a figure look...


I gotta add this for those who don't have them yet...

eBay has great prices on the Metallic best Buy toys, get them as fast as you can.. they aren't in price gouge mode yet.. hurry up!!! before they are gone, or cost a mint!!!