Robot Modes Revealed for Takara's Star Wars Powered by Transformers Millenium Falcon
Monday, January 29th, 2018 9:37AM CST
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Thanks to our usual Weibo source, it turns out that just as with the original concept, this Millenium Falcon splits into Han and Chewbacca. Also, similar to the origial release, they are very kibble heavy, featuring a lot of parts from the alt mode. A picture of the robot modes from Hasbro's attempt many years back can be seen at the end for comparison. Well, at least we know Chewbacca won't suffer from gold plastic syndrome this time (since that material is no longer being used).
Let us know what you think and if indeed Takara's take on this concept is better than Hasbro's.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on January 29th, 2018 @ 9:42am CST
Posted by Quantum Surge on January 29th, 2018 @ 9:43am CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 29th, 2018 @ 9:48am CST
Probably going to need to have this.
Takara, you had me at Heavily Armored Wookie Warrior.
Posted by Yweggo on January 29th, 2018 @ 10:17am CST
Posted by DMSL on January 29th, 2018 @ 10:43am CST
YUCK.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 29th, 2018 @ 3:16pm CST
Posted by Hotconvoy on January 29th, 2018 @ 3:21pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 29th, 2018 @ 3:43pm CST
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 29th, 2018 @ 3:45pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 29th, 2018 @ 6:39pm CST
Hotconvoy wrote:That is just sad
Out of curiosity, why is it sad? Is it just because you don't like the idea? While the actual idea isn't the best, I love the engineeringthat goes into these as there isn't a lot of space to play around with on the iconic vehicle designs of star wars
Posted by Deadput on January 29th, 2018 @ 9:34pm CST
What I mean it looks like the standard Transformer look and not a robot Harrison Ford.
(My wording is probably weird here but I'm not sure how else to describe it.)
Posted by Va'al on January 30th, 2018 @ 3:59am CST
Deadput wrote:Is it just me or is the head on the new Solo look more like an actual Transformer now?
What I mean it looks like the standard Transformer look and not a robot Harrison Ford.
You mean Hanode Solo..?
Posted by Rated X on January 30th, 2018 @ 9:19am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Hotconvoy wrote:That is just sad
Out of curiosity, why is it sad? Is it just because you don't like the idea? While the actual idea isn't the best, I love the engineeringthat goes into these as there isn't a lot of space to play around with on the iconic vehicle designs of star wars
I agree it is sad..
Those who dont learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
The concept is just dumb. It was dumb then and its still dumb now. How cool would it have been if they just focused on the vehicles to homage Star Wars and let the robot modes homage actual Transformers characters? Then they would be true "Transformers" crossovers, rather than just on the sole basis that they can transform. Right now they're no more "Transformers" than a Gobot. The one thing they are not is Transformers crossovers.
Imagine tie fighter seekers, vader tie fighter megatron, x wing fighter optimus, cloud speeder bumblebee, milenium falcon ironhide, slave 1 soundwave, death star unicron, so many possibilities. But instead they give us robots wearing circus masks....twice.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 30th, 2018 @ 12:02pm CST
These pre-orders come to us from various sponsor sites, and lists the combining figure at a $134.99 price point, around the same price as a Takara Masterpiece medium sized figure such as Inferno and movie Ironhide. You can find the pre-orders listed below for the sites that currently have the pre-order. The combiner is expected to arrive in June of this year.
This new figure is based on a similarly designed Millenium Falcon figure from 2006 that split apart to transform into Han Solo and Chewbacca, with Han forming the front half and Chewie the rear. That figure suffered from Gold Plastic Syndrome, which caused Chewie to fall apart. This new figure uses a different transformation scheme while still having the individual robots form the same halves of the Falcon.
Check out the pre-orders below. Are you ready for this new and exciting figure? Do you want a Battle Wookie and Han Solo? Will you be picking them up? Let us know in the comments section below!
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Product Description
This mash up of Transformers and Star Wars gives the Millennium Falcon the ability to split apart and transform into Han Solo and Chewbacca robots. Robot Han can be armed with his blaster pistol while Chewbacca has his bowcaster. Mini figures of Han and Chewbacca are also included.
Product Features
Transformers meets Star Wars
Made of plastic
Transforms from Millennium Falcon into Han Solo and Chewbacca robots
Combiner figure
Includes mini figures of Han and Chewbacca
Box Contents
Han Solo robot
Blaster pistol
Chewbacca robot
Bowcaster
Mini Han Solo
Mini Chewbacca
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 30th, 2018 @ 12:27pm CST
Posted by Marcdachamp on January 30th, 2018 @ 12:52pm CST
That said, Takara did an AMAZING job on these! Han's face was the biggest problem with the original figures, so it's awesome to see they've given him something much cooler. Chewie's original face always looked okay, but this, too, is better! I may have to snag these...
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 30th, 2018 @ 12:55pm CST
Marcdachamp wrote:I got the original Hasbro version as a Christmas gift back in like 2006. It wasn't the type of thing I would have asked for, but it was kind of a neat surprise. I came to like the figures, and I had them displayed for a while. They ended up in storage until Force Awakens when I decided to try my luck transforming and displaying them again. Got them into Falcon mode, but I finally had my first brush with GPS as a Transformers fan, sadly.
That said, Takara did an AMAZING job on these! Han's face was the biggest problem with the original figures, so it's awesome to see they've given him something much cooler. Chewie's original face always looked okay, but this, too, is better! I may have to snag these...
Your story sounds a lot like mine. It wasn't something I asked for, but I got it and it was really cool. and I think they did awesome with this seeing as how it has a different Transformation scheme and they look cooler here.
I think you should snag him up. It seems like a pretty awesome thing, and it's one of those rarer curiosity things.
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 30th, 2018 @ 3:22pm CST
I'd rather have this:
Than this:
(Btw, has anyone noticed that it's now easier to upload pics here? Previously, the limit seemed pretty low, but I've been able to upload with aplomb. Cheers, Seibertron!)
Posted by Rated X on January 30th, 2018 @ 3:29pm CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 30th, 2018 @ 3:47pm CST
Rated X wrote:At these Takara prices, the target audience is definitely adult transformers collectors who happen to like star wars. I dont see any hardcore stsr wars collectors choosing these over Black Series figures and vehicles. So with that being said, why not make them true crossovers that pay homage to both franchises ? The could have given them Transformers characters heads instead. Im sure most people would rather have that then generic robots wearing star wars masks like cosplay. Maybe a 3rd party can make new heads for these things....but that chewbacca figure cant be saved...
Although none of us here know, of course, it's been postulated that TF characters cannot be "in" the SW universe and vice versa for brand/copyright reasons. Possibly, Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't want to dilute the brand or confuse the official stories by having another franchise so intimately connecting to it. Using the TF "play pattern" is one thing, but having a story and characters crossing over isn't wanted by the rights holders.
Personally, I think that's barmy, if true. If they made more "mech" style heads for these toys, plus did repainted figs as TF versions (and if they weren't so ridiculously overpriced), then I'd buy one of each version.
In fact, they could have just made these all Headmasters, and used star wars characters turn into the heads, and also allowed us to add existing heads to customise our own.
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 30th, 2018 @ 3:53pm CST
Rated X wrote:At these Takara prices, the target audience is definitely adult transformers collectors who happen to like star wars. I dont see any hardcore stsr wars collectors choosing these over Black Series figures and vehicles. So with that being said, why not make them true crossovers that pay homage to both franchises ? The could have given them Transformers characters heads instead. Im sure most people would rather have that then generic robots wearing star wars masks like cosplay. Maybe a 3rd party can make new heads for these things....but that chewbacca figure cant be saved...
These are definitely more for star wars fans than transformers fans since they're strictly Star Wars characters and not the cross overs you keep complaining about. And Star Wars collector's would choose these over the black series vehicles simply because there are barely any black series vehicles and they're massive compared to these.
Posted by Emerje on January 30th, 2018 @ 4:02pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Rated X wrote:At these Takara prices, the target audience is definitely adult transformers collectors who happen to like star wars. I dont see any hardcore stsr wars collectors choosing these over Black Series figures and vehicles. So with that being said, why not make them true crossovers that pay homage to both franchises ? The could have given them Transformers characters heads instead. Im sure most people would rather have that then generic robots wearing star wars masks like cosplay. Maybe a 3rd party can make new heads for these things....but that chewbacca figure cant be saved...
Although none of us here know, of course, it's been postulated that TF characters cannot be "in" the SW universe and vice versa for brand/copyright reasons. Possibly, Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't want to dilute the brand or confuse the official stories by having another franchise so intimately connecting to it. Using the TF "play pattern" is one thing, but having a story and characters crossing over isn't wanted by the rights holders.
That's probably the official line, but certainly not the truth.
And considering the first round of SW TF figures were pre-Disney I think someone just really likes the idea of robot versions of the SW cast.
Emerje
Posted by steals_your_goats on January 30th, 2018 @ 4:04pm CST
Emerje wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Rated X wrote:At these Takara prices, the target audience is definitely adult transformers collectors who happen to like star wars. I dont see any hardcore stsr wars collectors choosing these over Black Series figures and vehicles. So with that being said, why not make them true crossovers that pay homage to both franchises ? The could have given them Transformers characters heads instead. Im sure most people would rather have that then generic robots wearing star wars masks like cosplay. Maybe a 3rd party can make new heads for these things....but that chewbacca figure cant be saved...
Although none of us here know, of course, it's been postulated that TF characters cannot be "in" the SW universe and vice versa for brand/copyright reasons. Possibly, Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't want to dilute the brand or confuse the official stories by having another franchise so intimately connecting to it. Using the TF "play pattern" is one thing, but having a story and characters crossing over isn't wanted by the rights holders.
That's probably the official line, but certainly not the truth.
And considering the first round of SW TF figures were pre-Disney I think someone just really likes the idea of robot versions of the SW cast.
Emerje
All of that was pre Disney though so that most likely changes things.
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 30th, 2018 @ 4:30pm CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 30th, 2018 @ 5:33pm CST
Emerje wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Rated X wrote:At these Takara prices, the target audience is definitely adult transformers collectors who happen to like star wars. I dont see any hardcore stsr wars collectors choosing these over Black Series figures and vehicles. So with that being said, why not make them true crossovers that pay homage to both franchises ? The could have given them Transformers characters heads instead. Im sure most people would rather have that then generic robots wearing star wars masks like cosplay. Maybe a 3rd party can make new heads for these things....but that chewbacca figure cant be saved...
Although none of us here know, of course, it's been postulated that TF characters cannot be "in" the SW universe and vice versa for brand/copyright reasons. Possibly, Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't want to dilute the brand or confuse the official stories by having another franchise so intimately connecting to it. Using the TF "play pattern" is one thing, but having a story and characters crossing over isn't wanted by the rights holders.
That's probably the official line, but certainly not the truth.
And considering the first round of SW TF figures were pre-Disney I think someone just really likes the idea of robot versions of the SW cast.
Emerje
Brilliant! I wonder how apologists for the lack of TFs can get out of THAT evidence! There's also the Heroclicks style have, where there's a picture of (Luke Skywalker?) fighting Galaxy Force Optimus Prime.
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 30th, 2018 @ 5:35pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I don't see a problem with these existing, if you don't like, don't buy. Now, as for what people think this line should be, people would still complain. Another point, all of the crossover toylines have done worked this way so far, why should this be different? Plus thus approach seems to work for some people, look at D-Max
That's true, but have the previous SW and Marvel crossover TFs been successful? In defense, the previous SW crossover figures featured pretty awful engineering, so that could be a reason moreso than the sculpts if they weren't popular.
Posted by Burn on January 30th, 2018 @ 5:36pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 30th, 2018 @ 6:08pm CST
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 30th, 2018 @ 6:10pm CST
Burn wrote:Definitely won't be wasting my money on these things.
I'm worried that, no matter how good these are, people will be saving/spending money on all the other TFs coming out around the same time in Japan. I think Emerjie listed the boatload of other TFs coming out in April, and my bank account is going to be emptier than a haemophiliac in a room full of needless and vampires...
Posted by shajaki on January 30th, 2018 @ 7:02pm CST
Good you're here! I was wondering what your thoughts were on these. Good to see we've got the same mindsetCobotron wrote:Well! Darn.
Probably going to need to have this.
Takara, you had me at Heavily Armored Wookie Warrior.
*Reads thread*
THANK YOU.ZeroWolf wrote:I don't see a problem with these existing, if you don't like, don't buy.
Anyways. Personally, I love Star Wars, and the vehicles are some of the coolest parts of it. It's been some while since I've bought a SW figure or vehicle, so for me if the robot is REALLY disappointing then I'll just leave them in vehicle mode. I wouldn't mind having a bunch of Star Wars ships around.
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 30th, 2018 @ 7:14pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 30th, 2018 @ 7:25pm CST
There were two that I really liked and still have on display or still play with occasionally. Death Star Vader and a little Legends size Obi Wan. I find it really entertaining that Kenobi is off on some side quest in my Unicron Trilogy shelf. "For goodness sake! What ridiculous mission has the Counsel sent me on this time?"
But these look better to me, and I like the idea, so I'd be willing to give them a chance. The bot modes look more interesting then the old run, and these head sculpts, even though I'd like to see bigger pics, look way better to me. I trust Takara just a little more when it comes to head sculpts.
I'm fine with them turning into Star Wars characters, but I like X's idea too. It would be dope to have a Falcon that turned into Prime!
So from these tiny pictures, does Han appear to be wearing a helmet? Chewie certainly has some kind of crown or headband.
Edit: HI JAK!!!! I'm here!!!
Posted by Deadput on January 30th, 2018 @ 8:13pm CST
Va'al wrote:
You mean Hanode Solo..?
Damn it Va'al why you go do this to me?
Although Anode's headsculpt is one of two things I actually like about her, the other is her vehicle mode, so this is not a deal breaker for me if I decide to get it.
Edit: I have the thing on preorder (Doesn't mean I can't cancel it)
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 30th, 2018 @ 9:10pm CST
shajaki wrote:
Anyways. Personally, I love Star Wars, and the vehicles are some of the coolest parts of it. It's been some while since I've bought a SW figure or vehicle, so for me if the robot is REALLY disappointing then I'll just leave them in vehicle mode. I wouldn't mind having a bunch of Star Wars ships around.
Isn't that like using a mallet to crack open an egg, though? These Takara SWTFs are a tad pricey. Wouldn't it be better to get a really nice SW vehicle and then a TF? Failing that, if you're into Japanese style SW things, have you seen these?
http://tamashii.jp/special/sw/lineup_mr ... eroyalgard
Posted by Lucky Logician on January 30th, 2018 @ 11:44pm CST
Va'al wrote:
You mean Hanode Solo..?
This right here. I'm not trying to be a hater, but I do not see anything in that sculpt that makes me think Han Solo.
A) He looks like he is wearing a helmet on his head
B) The chest transformation kinda pokes out like boobs
C) He has Windblade-esque high heeled boots
D) He is very clearly wearing blue booty shorts
Was this supposed to be Rey when they were engineering it? Or is this some Rule 63 female Han Solo?
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 30th, 2018 @ 11:47pm CST
Posted by Aimless Misfire on January 31st, 2018 @ 1:14am CST
Also, Star Wars isn't cool anymore, Disney totally destroyed Star Wars with the new trilogy. Instead of writing a good story they just copied the original trilogy & made everything bigger. Bigger Death Star, bigger AT-AT's, bigger TIE Fighters, bigger Star Destroyers. And lame characters that nobody cares about. Star Wars is a joke now.
Posted by Deadput on January 31st, 2018 @ 2:12am CST
Aimless Misfire wrote:Also, Star Wars isn't cool anymore, Disney totally destroyed Star Wars with the new trilogy. Instead of writing a good story they just copied the original trilogy & made everything bigger. Bigger Death Star, bigger AT-AT's, bigger TIE Fighters, bigger Star Destroyers. And lame characters that nobody cares about. Star Wars is a joke now.
First of all opinions, if Star Wars wasn't cool it would never have gotten as big as it has nor would it continue to be. What is a good story? Are you suggesting that a story has to be original to be good because uh hey, no matter what Star Wars movie was made it would never met your expectations.
The prequels went original and looked how they were received, there was literally nothing else they could have been done for the Force Awakens since it had to go safe because of history before hand, if you think Last Jedi was like Empire Strikes back besides a couple things that probably means you have not seen that movie in awhile.
Lame characters my arse, Kylo Ren is a better written villain then Darth Vader and the others ever were in their own movies. Again opinions Star Wars has always been a good entertaining joke, anyone who takes either Transformers or Star Wars seriously is set up to disappoint and permanently ruin the franchise for themselves.
Posted by Burn on January 31st, 2018 @ 3:57am CST
YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER BY NOW.
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 31st, 2018 @ 7:40am CST
Aimless Misfire wrote:Just like the Hasbro line, the robot modes don't work at all.
Also, Star Wars isn't cool anymore, Disney totally destroyed Star Wars with the new trilogy. Instead of writing a good story they just copied the original trilogy & made everything bigger. Bigger Death Star, bigger AT-AT's, bigger TIE Fighters, bigger Star Destroyers. And lame characters that nobody cares about. Star Wars is a joke now.
What would work for robot modes though? These aren't tf characters so they need to fit in with the style of the universe while also keeping to the restrictions on the vehicles.
@PrimalxConvoy getting nice sw vehicles is tricky at certain scales, these are a lot smaller and not that much bigger than the old action fleet vehicles (which were amazing)
Posted by Burn on January 31st, 2018 @ 2:25pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:What would work for robot modes though?
Very little. Characters like Vader, and Griveous work because their heads are "robotic" looking. Storm Troopers and Fett would work as well, except the colours of the head tended to not blend with the body. And I think that's where the biggest fail happens, slapping a big green head on a grey body. Sure, the head looks like Yoda, but it also looks like someone has chopped his head off and put it on a robotic body.
So maybe if the heads blended with the rest of the body, they might look a bit better.
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 31st, 2018 @ 2:43pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Aimless Misfire wrote:Just like the Hasbro line, the robot modes don't work at all.
Also, Star Wars isn't cool anymore, Disney totally destroyed Star Wars with the new trilogy. Instead of writing a good story they just copied the original trilogy & made everything bigger. Bigger Death Star, bigger AT-AT's, bigger TIE Fighters, bigger Star Destroyers. And lame characters that nobody cares about. Star Wars is a joke now.
What would work for robot modes though? These aren't tf characters so they need to fit in with the style of the universe while also keeping to the restrictions on the vehicles.
@PrimalxConvoy getting nice sw vehicles is tricky at certain scales, these are a lot smaller and not that much bigger than the old action fleet vehicles (which were amazing)
I read that Disney shops and parks sell detailed SW vehicles for about 20 Dollars? Might be worth a look.
Surprisingly, Google was bereft of good mech and robot versions of Star Wars characters for me. Here's what I could find.
And @Burn, I agree. That's why they need to make mechs that homage the character, rather than look like the character. Some of the colours of the clothes, skin, can etc would be fine, but things like weapons, motifs painted in the side, etc should be used, too.
Posted by Burn on January 31st, 2018 @ 3:31pm CST
Human Alliance.
The vehicle can transform and it can have a head that fits in, and you also have it's "human" counterpart.
That would be fun too. But then it's bordering on being a "true" crossover.
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 31st, 2018 @ 4:02pm CST
Burn wrote:Two words.
Human Alliance.
The vehicle can transform and it can have a head that fits in, and you also have it's "human" counterpart.
That would be fun too. But then it's bordering on being a "true" crossover.
Great idea! I really wish MP had merged with Binaltech, and then the film Human Alliance toys would have continued that trend. Then, we could have had GI-Joe/Action Force, MASK toys, etc in that scale, too (in their own respective toy lines). Even if any of these were sold every now and then, as exclusives, it would eventually add up to a coincidental full range of toys that shared play styles.
Failing they, in sure Titanmaster style figures could do a similar thing. Plus, if they released Star Wars vehicles like the old Micro Machines/Galoob line, and MASK/GI-Joe figures/vehicles too, they're could be some great base-building, cross-play opportunities too.
Oh well...
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 1st, 2018 @ 8:27am CST
Posted by Silverwing on February 3rd, 2018 @ 8:10pm CST
Rated X wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Hotconvoy wrote:That is just sad
Out of curiosity, why is it sad? Is it just because you don't like the idea? While the actual idea isn't the best, I love the engineeringthat goes into these as there isn't a lot of space to play around with on the iconic vehicle designs of star wars
I agree it is sad..
Those who dont learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
The concept is just dumb. It was dumb then and its still dumb now. How cool would it have been if they just focused on the vehicles to homage Star Wars and let the robot modes homage actual Transformers characters? Then they would be true "Transformers" crossovers, rather than just on the sole basis that they can transform. Right now they're no more "Transformers" than a Gobot. The one thing they are not is Transformers crossovers.
Imagine tie fighter seekers, vader tie fighter megatron, x wing fighter optimus, cloud speeder bumblebee, milenium falcon ironhide, slave 1 soundwave, death star unicron, so many possibilities. But instead they give us robots wearing circus masks....twice.
They're not meant to be crossovers in that way. The idea is "Star Wars powered by Transformers", like if Cybertronian technology somehow ended up in a galaxy far far away. To make say, a Trypticon Star Destroyer would be neat, but it'd be completely outside the line's intentions. Now, I will agree that the concept is rather absurd, but the toys aren't actually that bad, all things considered.
Posted by Va'al on February 6th, 2018 @ 8:54am CST
Check them all out mirrored below, and head here for the listing, as the figure is set for release in June!
Posted by Rated X on February 6th, 2018 @ 9:28am CST
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Posted by Microraptor on February 6th, 2018 @ 10:54am CST