Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes
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There are listings up now on Walmart for the first wave of the Transformers Kingdom line. None of them are toys we did not know we'd be getting BUT we do see their retail prices now. these come to us from fellow Seibertronian JTPrime17.
Core Rattrap $9.99
Deluxe Cheetor $22.99
Voyager $29.99
Leader $49.99
While this price hike isn't fun, it could be worse, like the upcoming deluxe sized like Hot Rod being sold as a voyager for $29.99 over in the Studio Series 86 line.
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Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081101)
Posted by Tuned Agent on September 22nd, 2020 @ 6:57pm CDT
Not really, at least Hot Rod is getting a higher parts count, more complexity, more articulation and more accessories for his price hike (though I still think he's overpriced). The Kingdom deluxes aren't getting any of that. Warpath and Blackarachnia are both both smaller-than-average deluxes, and Cheetor has a pretty lackluster deco, so we very well could be getting less than before on top of the price hike.
I was seriously considering buying all the beasts, but IMO $20 was already pushing it for current deluxes. Assuming this isn't a Wal-Mart goof, I guess I'll at least be waiting for sales.
Posted by Tuned Agent on September 22nd, 2020 @ 6:57pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:While this price hike isn't fun, it could be worse, like the upcoming deluxe sized like Hot Rod being sold as a voyager for $29.99 over in the Studio Series 86 line.
Not really, at least Hot Rod is getting a higher parts count, more complexity, more articulation and more accessories for his price hike (though I still think he's overpriced). The Kingdom deluxes aren't getting any of that. Warpath and Blackarachnia are both both smaller-than-average deluxes, and Cheetor has a pretty lackluster deco, so we very well could be getting less than before on top of the price hike.
I was seriously considering buying all the beasts, but IMO $20 was already pushing it for current deluxes. Assuming this isn't a Wal-Mart goof, I guess I'll at least be waiting for sales.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081102)
Posted by mech_dh on September 22nd, 2020 @ 7:06pm CDT
Posted by mech_dh on September 22nd, 2020 @ 7:06pm CDT
Back when I was a kid deluxes were 10 bucks. Now they are almost the old price of a voyager. Oh well, that’s what bargain hunting is for.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081104)
Posted by o.supreme on September 22nd, 2020 @ 8:09pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on September 22nd, 2020 @ 8:09pm CDT
Wow it was just 4 years ago (TR) when deluxes were 16 at Walmart and Target, and I thought Walgreens charging $18 for a deluxe was a rip-off
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081106)
Posted by Ultra Markus on September 22nd, 2020 @ 8:43pm CDT
those were the days, 5 bucks for legends or scout
Posted by Ultra Markus on September 22nd, 2020 @ 8:43pm CDT
mech_dh wrote:Back when I was a kid deluxes were 10 bucks. Now they are almost the old price of a voyager. Oh well, that’s what bargain hunting is for.
those were the days, 5 bucks for legends or scout
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081110)
Posted by bacem on September 22nd, 2020 @ 9:38pm CDT
It could be walmart goof, or we haven't seen all accesories that comes with each figures yet. Considering the reviews are using stolen, loose copies, there's chance they are incomplete.
Posted by bacem on September 22nd, 2020 @ 9:38pm CDT
Tuned Agent wrote:william-james88 wrote:While this price hike isn't fun, it could be worse, like the upcoming deluxe sized like Hot Rod being sold as a voyager for $29.99 over in the Studio Series 86 line.
Not really, at least Hot Rod is getting a higher parts count, more complexity, more articulation and more accessories for his price hike (though I still think he's overpriced). The Kingdom deluxes aren't getting any of that. Warpath and Blackarachnia are both both smaller-than-average deluxes, and Cheetor has a pretty lackluster deco, so we very well could be getting less than before on top of the price hike.
I was seriously considering buying all the beasts, but IMO $20 was already pushing it for current deluxes. Assuming this isn't a Wal-Mart goof, I guess I'll at least be waiting for sales.
It could be walmart goof, or we haven't seen all accesories that comes with each figures yet. Considering the reviews are using stolen, loose copies, there's chance they are incomplete.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081112)
Posted by 84everfan on September 22nd, 2020 @ 10:04pm CDT
Posted by 84everfan on September 22nd, 2020 @ 10:04pm CDT
I'm 19 now, and this makes 2 price markups in the last what, five years? Hell $20 for deluxes that all vary in size? No thank you. At this point there's no purpose in varying them by size class if cliffjumper's gonna be smaller than sideswipe at the same price. This is primus tier b.s. This is why I wait for masterpieces. Id rather pay an inflated price for something show accurate than a parts forming p.o.s. that's made of cheap plastic and more hollow than joe biden's head. This is why I never understand you people complaining about masterpiece prices. More accuracy= more complicated engineering= more parts= more machinery and molds= inflated price, and if they have to add some accessories that had 3 seconds of screentime to justify the price for us, then more power to em. Bumblebee was awful yes but we all know we needed a seeker update to get rid of the first mp seeker's upsidown cockpit beer gut . "Ugh I'd rather have a toy that feels nice rather than accuracy" Guess what? MAYBE DON'T BUY THE MASTERPIECES?!?!? I'd rather have a line that prioritizes accuracy AND fun rather than only playability. Some of you people complain about the price hike of masterpieces but will then proceed to buy 30 bots that transform into RAMPS that fit MAYBE two separate size classes. I know someone said "ugh if you don't like complaining then why did you complain about the funko pops? A. Those things are abominations, and can't decide between being toy or show accurate, and instead try and fail to do both, B. I'm going to give you all the benefit of the doubt and say 40% AT THE MOST of your complaints against masterpieces are justified. God this rant spiraled into a completely separate subject, but I think it's relevant. This is barely even my opinion it's just marketing and economics, and if someone cares to correct me and make me look like an idiot and lose all credibility then go ahead, I don't care, it's not my website. It's Primus' universe and I'm just getting railed by it with Negans baseball bat, and I hate the walking dead.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081113)
Posted by Joetx on September 22nd, 2020 @ 10:04pm CDT
Posted by Joetx on September 22nd, 2020 @ 10:04pm CDT
Heck, the $20 for current deluxes is too much, especially when you have big open empty spaces in the legs & arms, & the legs can easily fall off.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081116)
Posted by LE0KING on September 22nd, 2020 @ 10:18pm CDT
Posted by LE0KING on September 22nd, 2020 @ 10:18pm CDT
I'm no white knight, but when you think about the fact that hasbro is selling marvel legends figures for 20 bucks and that they are incredibly simple and straightforward figures with zero engineering or complexity, 23 for a similar sized toy that has equivalent articulation, better feeling plastic, higher parts count, and actually turns into an entirely different toy doesn't seem so ridiculous.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081117)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on September 22nd, 2020 @ 10:22pm CDT
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on September 22nd, 2020 @ 10:22pm CDT
To be honest, I think the prices for deluxe have been sitting @ $21.99 Walmart/Amazon/Target just keep it down. BBTS and TFSource have been charging $21.99 since... what... the start of siege, if not the end of Titan's Return? For a while I thought it was just e-tailer mark-up. But I think I remember SDCC cards from last year mention a 21.99 MSRP. As for those complaining about mark-ups. I remember when dexluxes used to be $8.99-9.99. Sure that was probably going on 20 years ago now... but... it's just price creep with the times.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081119)
Posted by aronjlove on September 22nd, 2020 @ 10:27pm CDT
Seriously, just look at what else is on the shelves and their prices. Look at the cost of the Angry Birds or Fortnite stuff which have zero articulation and cost ten to twelve bucks. Lego sets have gone up and they are literally just bricks.
Posted by aronjlove on September 22nd, 2020 @ 10:27pm CDT
LE0KING wrote:I'm no white knight, but when you think about the fact that hasbro is selling marvel legends figures for 20 bucks and that they are incredibly simple and straightforward figures with zero engineering or complexity, 23 for a similar sized toy that has equivalent articulation, better feeling plastic, higher parts count, and actually turns into an entirely different toy doesn't seem so ridiculous.
Seriously, just look at what else is on the shelves and their prices. Look at the cost of the Angry Birds or Fortnite stuff which have zero articulation and cost ten to twelve bucks. Lego sets have gone up and they are literally just bricks.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081122)
Posted by Deadput on September 22nd, 2020 @ 10:56pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on September 22nd, 2020 @ 10:56pm CDT
Just about everything is going up in price it's not just Transformers, it's not simply a matter of greed from the company this is just the reality we live in where concepts like inflation are in place.
If you don't like the prices now it sure ain't going to be better 5 years from now, so I'd say it's about time for anyone to jump out of collecting if the prices are too much for yourself right now.
If you don't like the prices now it sure ain't going to be better 5 years from now, so I'd say it's about time for anyone to jump out of collecting if the prices are too much for yourself right now.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081126)
Posted by Betenoire on September 22nd, 2020 @ 11:53pm CDT
Greed and covering what are almost certainly license disappointment returns from Star Wars. Seriously, didn't even have a toy line from the last movie and Transformers which Hasbro owns has as much shelf presence in most stores I visit and its last movie was even longer ago.
Just feel annoyed I'm paying more cause Lou has been losing money at the track. (old reference)
Posted by Betenoire on September 22nd, 2020 @ 11:53pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Just about everything is going up in price it's not just Transformers, it's not simply a matter of greed from the company this is just the reality we live in where concepts like inflation are in place.
If you don't like the prices now it sure ain't going to be better 5 years from now, so I'd say it's about time for anyone to jump out of collecting if the prices are too much for yourself right now.
Greed and covering what are almost certainly license disappointment returns from Star Wars. Seriously, didn't even have a toy line from the last movie and Transformers which Hasbro owns has as much shelf presence in most stores I visit and its last movie was even longer ago.
Just feel annoyed I'm paying more cause Lou has been losing money at the track. (old reference)
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081129)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:49am CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:49am CDT
I'll be honest, I can see the complaints about the extra $3 if you buy figures in batches. Once you hit 6 deluxes, that money could have bought a 7th deluxe, or at 3 deluxes, you could have bought a core class. But, I feel the need to point out that it's only an increase on the deluxes, which so far have been really solid figures. Plus, if the extra $3 had to go somewhere for the core class guys to get their weapons, I'm fine with it. I mean, the new Megatron supposedly comes with himself in gun mode as an accessory, Prime should have his rifle, Starscream has his Null Rays, and Rattrap has his gun. Given the fact that the previous Legends class guys had nothing since CW except for Brawn/Outback and Seaspray, if $3 extra dollars provides the core class boys their weapons, then fine.
Besides, Deluxes are the easiest to justify. Core class is half the size at $10, but at $13 you might as well save a bit longer and get a bigger toy (from a casual fan's POV), Voyagers at $33 would be the other decent argument, but that still runs the risk of people seeing them and saying it's not worth the price and might result in Voyagers shelfwarming, and I feel leader class is the obvious no go due to the fact that shelves are still flooded with Siege Shockwaves, and likely will be flooded with Doubledealers while Kingdom is out.
Besides, Deluxes are the easiest to justify. Core class is half the size at $10, but at $13 you might as well save a bit longer and get a bigger toy (from a casual fan's POV), Voyagers at $33 would be the other decent argument, but that still runs the risk of people seeing them and saying it's not worth the price and might result in Voyagers shelfwarming, and I feel leader class is the obvious no go due to the fact that shelves are still flooded with Siege Shockwaves, and likely will be flooded with Doubledealers while Kingdom is out.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081135)
Posted by optimeow on September 23rd, 2020 @ 3:57am CDT
Posted by optimeow on September 23rd, 2020 @ 3:57am CDT
FED's to blame for printing money and causing inflation. Worse is that the extra money is coming out from our pockets instead of into it!
Where is the low inflation if we get price hikes so often?
Another excuse for
is to match 
prices in Japan. Abenomics has caused retail prices to skyrocket more than double in the past 5 years. Those of us who import using sites like Amiami, HLJ and Amazon Japan will know 
Where is the low inflation if we get price hikes so often?
Another excuse for
is to match prices in Japan. Abenomics has caused retail prices to skyrocket more than double in the past 5 years. Those of us who import using sites like Amiami, HLJ and Amazon Japan will know
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081139)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 5:47am CDT
This^
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 5:47am CDT
Deadput wrote:Just about everything is going up in price it's not just Transformers, it's not simply a matter of greed from the company this is just the reality we live in where concepts like inflation are in place.
If you don't like the prices now it sure ain't going to be better 5 years from now, so I'd say it's about time for anyone to jump out of collecting if the prices are too much for yourself right now.
This^
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081141)
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 6:06am CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 6:06am CDT
Waiting for the £15 plus price tag on the $10 cores 
would love for the days of kenner and toybiz prices to come back, but it ain't happening.
would love for the days of kenner and toybiz prices to come back, but it ain't happening.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081144)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 7:51am CDT
Nope, what would really offset these prices rises is if the wages increased along side them so they were still affordable. You'd still get the talk of "these were cheaper in my day" but then we have to remember that wages were a lot less as well. In some cases the money we paid on Deluxes back then is roughly the same as what we spend now, thanks to inflation and rising material costs.
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 7:51am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Waiting for the £15 plus price tag on the $10 cores
Nope, what would really offset these prices rises is if the wages increased along side them so they were still affordable. You'd still get the talk of "these were cheaper in my day" but then we have to remember that wages were a lot less as well. In some cases the money we paid on Deluxes back then is roughly the same as what we spend now, thanks to inflation and rising material costs.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081145)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 7:52am CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 7:52am CDT
The prices going up hurts a bit more now because the mainline is producing things I want all at the same time. Before it took ages to build the entire G1 case. I'm not rebuying everyone, but even without that everything's basically coming out all at once.
It seems odd to complain about getting MOAR, but .... here we are.
It seems odd to complain about getting MOAR, but .... here we are.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081147)
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 8:02am CDT
Yep especially when by the time Kingdom concludes we are probably at double the amount of figures released for the entire Armada-Cybertron time line.
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 8:02am CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:The prices going up hurts a bit more now because the mainline is producing things I want all at the same time. Before it took ages to build the entire G1 case. I'm not rebuying everyone, but even without that everything's basically coming out all at once.
It seems odd to complain about getting MOAR, but .... here we are.
Yep especially when by the time Kingdom concludes we are probably at double the amount of figures released for the entire Armada-Cybertron time line.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081153)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 23rd, 2020 @ 8:59am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 23rd, 2020 @ 8:59am CDT
Walmart had already increased the prices of the SS voyagers and leaders by 5$ since months ago. But only Walmart.
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081169)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:34am CDT
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:34am CDT
Hasbro's official reveal of some figures on IGN.
https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-war-for-cybertron-kingdom-figures-announced-by-hasbro
https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-war-for-cybertron-kingdom-figures-announced-by-hasbro
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081170)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:36am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:36am CDT
Holy 
*runs to news desk*
*runs to news desk*
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081171)
Posted by sol magnus on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:41am CDT
Posted by sol magnus on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:41am CDT
They all look great, but Cyclonus tho!
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081172)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:45am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:45am CDT
Cheetor and Rattrap official pics too!
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081173)
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:47am CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:47am CDT
Megs is looking good and non explodey. Cyclonus probably needed to be commander class to be my desired size for him and cheetor is still a great big pass no matter the fancy photoshoot.
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Posted by Autobot_Benz on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:55am CDT
Posted by Autobot_Benz on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:55am CDT
Cheetor was my favorite character on Beast Wars and its annoys me to no end they didn't give him his Quasar Cannon from his gut and his tail gun. They gave him some stupid tail whip he never had. also $22.99 for him hard pass. I will stick with my OG Cheetor I have
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Posted by Sabrblade on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:56am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:56am CDT
Missing pic of Megs's smile:
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081178)
Posted by aronjlove on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:56am CDT
Posted by aronjlove on September 23rd, 2020 @ 11:56am CDT
Thank goodness for Covid and the complete eradication of what social life I had as I can use that money to pay for all of these 
Re: Price Points Revealed for Kingdom line with Increase for Deluxes (2081179)
Posted by Overcracker on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:05pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:05pm CDT
Megs looks like he put on a a few pounds in dino mode. But robot mode looks excellent. Damn... seems like i’ll ve preordering all these kingdom figures.
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Posted by william-james88 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:05pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:05pm CDT
We thank Nuclearxpotato for letting us know of Hasbro's official reveal of some figures on IGN.
https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-war-for-cybertron-kingdom-figures-announced-by-hasbro
Here is the info on each of these reveals, one per size class.
Core Class Beast Wars Ratttrap
Deluxe Class Beast Wars Cheetor
Voyager Class Generation 1 Cyclonus
Leader Class Beast Wars Megatron
There will be more reveals at the Transformers Saturday Toy Panel at Hasbro PulseCon. Also, pre-orders will be available on 09/26/2020 at 5:00pm ET on Hasbro Pulse.
“The WFC-K2 Core Class RATTRAP collectible figure stands at 3.5 inches tall and converts to Beast Wars-inspired rat mode with molded fur texture in 18 steps. RATTRAP comes with classic Fusion blaster accessory inspired by the one featured in the Beast Wars cartoon. Wise cracks not included, but you can imagine! The mini-figure allows fans to collect a mini version of the iconic character to pose out with other RATTRAP toys at larger scales (each sold separately, subject to availability)!
“The WFC-K4 Deluxe CHEETOR collectible figure stands at 5.5 inches tall, converts to Beast Wars-inspired cheetah mode in 20 steps with intricate cheetah-inspired molded fur texture, and features lower jaw articulation in cheetah mode for classic look of CHEETOR enthusiasm. CHEETOR’s tail also detaches from cheetah mode during conversion and becomes a tail whip accessory that can be held by the figure in robot mode. CHEETOR includes a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!”
“The WFC-K9 Voyager CYCLONUS G1-inspired figure stands at 7 inches tall, converts into Cybertronian fighter craft mode in 34 steps, and comes with the classic Oxidating Laser accessory. CYCLONUS, a herald of UNICRON, first appears in the 1986 movie when BOMBSHELL/SKYWARP were reformatted into the second-in-command of GALVATRON. CYCLONUS includes a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!
“The WFC-K10 Leader MEGATRON (BEAST) collectible figure stands at 7.5 inches tall and converts into Beast Wars-inspired T. rex beast mode in 27 steps, featuring intricate dinosaur-inspired molded scales and an articulated jaw with molded teeth. MEGATRON’s dino head and tail also become his classic claw hands, and fans can add laser fire effects by placing fire blasts accessories inside his dino head (sold separately with other figures, subject to availability). MEGATRON (BEAST) includes a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!”
https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-war-for-cybertron-kingdom-figures-announced-by-hasbro
Here is the info on each of these reveals, one per size class.
Core Class Beast Wars Ratttrap
Deluxe Class Beast Wars Cheetor
Voyager Class Generation 1 Cyclonus
Leader Class Beast Wars Megatron
There will be more reveals at the Transformers Saturday Toy Panel at Hasbro PulseCon. Also, pre-orders will be available on 09/26/2020 at 5:00pm ET on Hasbro Pulse.
“The WFC-K2 Core Class RATTRAP collectible figure stands at 3.5 inches tall and converts to Beast Wars-inspired rat mode with molded fur texture in 18 steps. RATTRAP comes with classic Fusion blaster accessory inspired by the one featured in the Beast Wars cartoon. Wise cracks not included, but you can imagine! The mini-figure allows fans to collect a mini version of the iconic character to pose out with other RATTRAP toys at larger scales (each sold separately, subject to availability)!
“The WFC-K4 Deluxe CHEETOR collectible figure stands at 5.5 inches tall, converts to Beast Wars-inspired cheetah mode in 20 steps with intricate cheetah-inspired molded fur texture, and features lower jaw articulation in cheetah mode for classic look of CHEETOR enthusiasm. CHEETOR’s tail also detaches from cheetah mode during conversion and becomes a tail whip accessory that can be held by the figure in robot mode. CHEETOR includes a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!”
“The WFC-K9 Voyager CYCLONUS G1-inspired figure stands at 7 inches tall, converts into Cybertronian fighter craft mode in 34 steps, and comes with the classic Oxidating Laser accessory. CYCLONUS, a herald of UNICRON, first appears in the 1986 movie when BOMBSHELL/SKYWARP were reformatted into the second-in-command of GALVATRON. CYCLONUS includes a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!
“The WFC-K10 Leader MEGATRON (BEAST) collectible figure stands at 7.5 inches tall and converts into Beast Wars-inspired T. rex beast mode in 27 steps, featuring intricate dinosaur-inspired molded scales and an articulated jaw with molded teeth. MEGATRON’s dino head and tail also become his classic claw hands, and fans can add laser fire effects by placing fire blasts accessories inside his dino head (sold separately with other figures, subject to availability). MEGATRON (BEAST) includes a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other KINGDOM figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character (each sold separately, subject to availability)!”
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Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:12pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:12pm CDT
These all look fantastic! 
That beast wars megs though...yessss
Regarding Cyclonus, surely voyager height is right? He wasn't Sky Lynx or Jetfire sized
That beast wars megs though...yessss Regarding Cyclonus, surely voyager height is right? He wasn't Sky Lynx or Jetfire sized
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Posted by Sabrblade on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:17pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:17pm CDT
Autobot_Benz wrote:They gave him some stupid tail whip he never had.
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Posted by Skritz on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:18pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:18pm CDT
It may be cliché but I came back to say
YEEEESSSS
YEEEESSSS
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Posted by Notimus Crime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:20pm CDT
Posted by Notimus Crime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:20pm CDT
I'm most likely going to be skipping a lot of the beast characters (no it's not a Trukk not Munky thing I just don't have any particular attachment to Beast Wars), but hot dang that BW megs. Yeah I'll be getting him. I'm a sucker for dinosaurs. As for the rest of the Beast characters, I'll have to see how they turn out. I'm interested in Tigatron because I really like his deco, I'll think about Airazor if Tigatron turns out good, I'm interested in Primal to go against the BW megs I'll be getting, I'm always up for a Waspinator, you get the gist. From what we've seen already, I'll be skipping out on Cheetor and Rattrap.
Oh, and Cyclonus looks awesome. Hopefully the Galvatron we're getting will be quality as well.
Oh, and Cyclonus looks awesome. Hopefully the Galvatron we're getting will be quality as well.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:20pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:20pm CDT
So these golden disk cards, I'm guessing then that the card they come with isn't necessarily for them and each one has three different ones 
So a bit like they did with Power of the Primes then
So a bit like they did with Power of the Primes then
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Posted by blackeyedprime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:23pm CDT
To me he should be Ultra Magnus sized (not the undersized Siege Ultra Magnus) as I have smaller ones as is with classics and the larger CW/UW but each to their own and it makes more sense to scale to galvatron/scourge.
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:23pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
Regarding Cyclonus, surely voyager height is right? He wasn't Sky Lynx or Jetfire sized
To me he should be Ultra Magnus sized (not the undersized Siege Ultra Magnus) as I have smaller ones as is with classics and the larger CW/UW but each to their own and it makes more sense to scale to galvatron/scourge.
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Posted by WeatherManNX01 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:29pm CDT
Posted by WeatherManNX01 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:29pm CDT
Hot damn, Megatron looks fantastic. I never had the original BW toy, but this looks like a solid update of the figure.
I still await pictures of Optimus Primal. I have some reservations about him being Voyager rather than Leader, but I'd like to see how it comes out regardless.
I still await pictures of Optimus Primal. I have some reservations about him being Voyager rather than Leader, but I'd like to see how it comes out regardless.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:30pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:30pm CDT
Catching up on the good stuff.
Fossilizer looks really sweet, I love that aesthetic!
Beast Megatron is the bomb! That dino mode is incredible, and I love the dino head on it! That is a great toy right there!
Cheetor and Rattrap are looking good.
Cyclonus is very meh, not feeling his style.
I have Generations Warpath, no need for the new one.
Eager to see what else beast wise comes out of this!
Fossilizer looks really sweet, I love that aesthetic!
Beast Megatron is the bomb! That dino mode is incredible, and I love the dino head on it! That is a great toy right there!
Cheetor and Rattrap are looking good.
Cyclonus is very meh, not feeling his style.
I have Generations Warpath, no need for the new one.
Eager to see what else beast wise comes out of this!
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Posted by Bounti76 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:34pm CDT
So I guess this settles, once and for all, who Cyclonus really is. He's an amalgam of Skywarp AND Bombshell. Cool.
Posted by Bounti76 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:34pm CDT
CYCLONUS, a herald of UNICRON, first appears in the 1986 movie when BOMBSHELL/SKYWARP were reformatted into the second-in-command of GALVATRON.
So I guess this settles, once and for all, who Cyclonus really is. He's an amalgam of Skywarp AND Bombshell. Cool.
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:37pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:37pm CDT
These all look great, especially Cyclonus and Beast Wars Megatron, but I want to take a moment to appreciate some of the cute little quips in the product copies. I love the "wise cracks not included, but you can imagine" line for Rattrap, but the "and features lower jaw articulation in cheetah mode for classic look of CHEETOR enthusiasm" for Cheetor takes the cake. Well played, Hasbro's marketing department! 
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Posted by Notimus Crime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:40pm CDT
I do like that they know of the controversy there and didn't want to give a concrete answer, so they just go "everyone's right!". Cyclonus will always be Skywarp to me.
Posted by Notimus Crime on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:40pm CDT
Bounti76 wrote:CYCLONUS, a herald of UNICRON, first appears in the 1986 movie when BOMBSHELL/SKYWARP were reformatted into the second-in-command of GALVATRON.
So I guess this settles, once and for all, who Cyclonus really is. He's an amalgam of Skywarp AND Bombshell. Cool.
I do like that they know of the controversy there and didn't want to give a concrete answer, so they just go "everyone's right!". Cyclonus will always be Skywarp to me.
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Posted by Tyrannacon on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:40pm CDT
Posted by Tyrannacon on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:40pm CDT
*awakens from slumber while making inhuman noises during*
I see a Tyrannosaurus Megatron, oh my....I want, yes...I really want it. I DEMAND MORE MEGATRON FIGURES!
Honestly it looks really good. I hope we get more of his incarnations like his TM mode and TM2 Dragon mode as well. Plus that fossilized Rex skeleton looks pretty cool too. It does appear Hasbro does know how to make believable dinosaur figures. Wish they did invest that in the Jurassic World toys they produced, but whatever. These look awesome. Also, Studio Series `86 Galvatron will eventually happen at least I hope it will. So that'll be a must-buy for sure.
Soooo awesome. I'm on board if even for these little things while I collect the Mattel Jurassic World figures.
I see a Tyrannosaurus Megatron, oh my....I want, yes...I really want it. I DEMAND MORE MEGATRON FIGURES!
Honestly it looks really good. I hope we get more of his incarnations like his TM mode and TM2 Dragon mode as well. Plus that fossilized Rex skeleton looks pretty cool too. It does appear Hasbro does know how to make believable dinosaur figures. Wish they did invest that in the Jurassic World toys they produced, but whatever. These look awesome. Also, Studio Series `86 Galvatron will eventually happen at least I hope it will. So that'll be a must-buy for sure.
Soooo awesome. I'm on board if even for these little things while I collect the Mattel Jurassic World figures.
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Posted by Autobot_Benz on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:43pm CDT
Posted by Autobot_Benz on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:43pm CDT
ya my mistake I know he had a tail whip as Transmetal Cheetor. Its inacurate for S1 Cheetor to have that tail whip it should be his Quasar gut cannon and his tail gun
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Posted by Tuned Agent on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:45pm CDT
Megatron looks AMAZING! That T-Rex mode is fantastic. They even went the extra mile and took a page out of the MP's book by giving him a normal arm inside his tail. The only potential issue might be the size of his backpack, but we'll see about that. Absolutely awesome.
Also, Cyclonus looks a lot better now that his legs are extended and with an actual deco.
Posted by Tuned Agent on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:45pm CDT
Megatron looks AMAZING! That T-Rex mode is fantastic. They even went the extra mile and took a page out of the MP's book by giving him a normal arm inside his tail. The only potential issue might be the size of his backpack, but we'll see about that. Absolutely awesome.
Also, Cyclonus looks a lot better now that his legs are extended and with an actual deco.
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:47pm CDT
I've got some good news and some bad news. Bad news is SS86 Galvatron is not going to happen. But that is only because of the good news that Galvatron will be a leader figure in Kingdom instead.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:47pm CDT
Tyrannacon wrote:Also, Studio Series `86 Galvatron will eventually happen at least I hope it will.
I've got some good news and some bad news. Bad news is SS86 Galvatron is not going to happen. But that is only because of the good news that Galvatron will be a leader figure in Kingdom instead.
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Posted by bodrock on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:51pm CDT
Posted by bodrock on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:51pm CDT
LOVE this Megatron, yessss — he’s an MP-lite like I was hoping! I love my 10th anniversary BW Megatron but this is pretty much perfect.
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Posted by Tyrannacon on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:52pm CDT
I'll take it either way here because as much as I love Titans Return Galvatron's sculpt and the fact the figure had been modernized, the headmaster gimmick is not my favorite thing ever. Especially the "mask crown" thingy.
Posted by Tyrannacon on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:52pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:Also, Studio Series `86 Galvatron will eventually happen at least I hope it will.
I've got some good news and some bad news. Bad news is SS86 Galvatron is not going to happen. But that is only because of the good news that Galvatron will be a leader figure in Kingdom instead.
I'll take it either way here because as much as I love Titans Return Galvatron's sculpt and the fact the figure had been modernized, the headmaster gimmick is not my favorite thing ever. Especially the "mask crown" thingy.
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:55pm CDT
A Leader Class Galvatron has already been all but confirmed for Kingdom, actually. The 1986 movie cast is being split up among a few different lines right now. Studio Series so far is getting Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr, Grimlock with Wheelie, Slag with Daniel, Scourge, and Gnaw/Sharkticon. Siege got Springer. Earthrise has Arcee, Allicon, and Quitesson Judge. Kingdom will get Arcee again, along with an Earth mode Ultra Magnus, Rodimus Prime, Galvatron, and Cyclonus.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:55pm CDT
Tyrannacon wrote:Also, Studio Series `86 Galvatron will eventually happen at least I hope it will. So that'll be a must-buy for sure.
A Leader Class Galvatron has already been all but confirmed for Kingdom, actually. The 1986 movie cast is being split up among a few different lines right now. Studio Series so far is getting Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr, Grimlock with Wheelie, Slag with Daniel, Scourge, and Gnaw/Sharkticon. Siege got Springer. Earthrise has Arcee, Allicon, and Quitesson Judge. Kingdom will get Arcee again, along with an Earth mode Ultra Magnus, Rodimus Prime, Galvatron, and Cyclonus.
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Posted by bluecatcinema on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:57pm CDT
Posted by bluecatcinema on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:57pm CDT
These guys all look amazing, especially Megatron.
And does anyone else find it funny that Cyclonus' description describes him as being reformatted from Bombshell/Skywarp? It seems they just can't make up their minds...
And does anyone else find it funny that Cyclonus' description describes him as being reformatted from Bombshell/Skywarp? It seems they just can't make up their minds...
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Posted by o.supreme on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:58pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on September 23rd, 2020 @ 12:58pm CDT
Megartron looks awesome. I have a friend that is a few years younger than me, I'm telling him Beast Wars is back!, He should be very excited. Cyclonus looks good. But just further cements my personal belief ( I know not all agree), that SS 86 were not just Kingdom toys "that couldn't fit". Cyclonus does not look like he would match the SS86 figures we've seen so far.
I know most fans wont mind (some even mix & match older Generations toys & Newer ones), but if I personally were trying to assemble the cast of TF:TM, across all these different lines would be quite frustrating at the lack of consistency in overall appearance.
I know most fans wont mind (some even mix & match older Generations toys & Newer ones), but if I personally were trying to assemble the cast of TF:TM, across all these different lines would be quite frustrating at the lack of consistency in overall appearance.
