Possible Prototypes of Shadow Panther and Mouthplate Primal Leaked - Updated
Thursday, April 15th, 2021 8:24AM CDT
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Update!
Thanks to the intrepid efforts of fellow Seibertron user, Alekese, the images have been proved to be the work of a customiser who created these on commission. There us still traces of the original paint that can be found on these figures.
Original article follows:
Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, Mindmaster, has let us know that a few new photos have surfaced on twitter, reportedly showing two new Transformers Kingdoms (and/or Transformers Selects) products!
The images come from Twitter user, Sousi, who had this to say:
The images show off two grey prototype looking versions of the Transformers Kingdom Cheetor and Optimus Primal figures, with completely new, unseen before heads. Speculation is rife that the Cheetor toy seen here is the leaked Shadow Panther toy, while the is no news of a battle masked Optimus Primal figure, but it wouldn't be unheard of for such a variant to debut as either an exclusive or under the Transformers Selects line.
Of course we also have no idea yet if these are even real as they could be well made customs, so, as always with news like this, take it with a large pinch of salt until more evidence becomes available.
Though as you can see from the image below, they do look like the prototype we have seen in the past like this article from 2016:
What do you think of these images? Fact or faked? Would you have likes to have seen the Netflix Optimus Primal release sport his battle mode head?
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Posted by sol magnus on April 15th, 2021 @ 8:32am CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 15th, 2021 @ 8:33am CDT
I'd say if this is real, I already have kingdom Primal so I wouldn't double dip for this one unless it was in universe colors or ghost convoy or something.
As for the cheetor mold, I hope speculation is correct that the battle mask is for shadow panther. I'd be more inclined to get him if so
Posted by alekese on April 15th, 2021 @ 8:43am CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 15th, 2021 @ 8:48am CDT
Posted by sol magnus on April 15th, 2021 @ 8:50am CDT
alekese wrote:Unfortunately, it's already been debunked. Some of the comments in the original twitter thread have been translated revealing that this was a commissioned customization. You can even see traces of yellow on cheetor's arm from where the spraypaint couldn't quite reach.
Looking a bit more closely, yeah. Definitely a painted Cheetor.
Thanks, buddy.
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on April 15th, 2021 @ 9:20am CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 15th, 2021 @ 9:27am CDT
I still have the og but an update wouldve been so cool
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 15th, 2021 @ 9:30am CDT
alekese wrote:Unfortunately, it's already been debunked. Some of the comments in the original twitter thread have been translated revealing that this was a commissioned customization. You can even see traces of yellow on cheetor's arm from where the spraypaint couldn't quite reach.
Ah this was the type of comment I was looking for. I couldn't seem to find where the pictures originated from.
I'll update the article accordingly
Posted by Spider5800 on April 15th, 2021 @ 11:44am CDT
Posted by UnderscoreZeus on April 15th, 2021 @ 12:01pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on April 15th, 2021 @ 3:54pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:alekese wrote:Unfortunately, it's already been debunked. Some of the comments in the original twitter thread have been translated revealing that this was a commissioned customization. You can even see traces of yellow on cheetor's arm from where the spraypaint couldn't quite reach.
Looking a bit more closely, yeah. Definitely a painted Cheetor.
Thanks, buddy.
The visible colored plastic under the primer doesn't really mean anything. When Takara Tomy does a retool of a figure they stick new parts on an off the shelf figure and spray the whole thing in primer to even it out. I can't find the specific examples I'm looking for, one was the back of UW Bruticus at some event, I think Grand Galvatron and Megatronia were the same way, but my Google-fu is pretty weak right now.
Emerje
Posted by alekese on April 15th, 2021 @ 4:52pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 15th, 2021 @ 7:04pm CDT
-The robot mode looks so much cooler in person, he seems way less scrawny-looking
-Dino mode would've done with better contrast and honestly the part that bothers me the most isn't even the saladfingers or the robot mode leg, it's the tail. Not the purple tip, but it looks much longer in person (twss) and it's pretty awkward. Of course it's a necessary sacrifice for the weapons so ill get over it
-most of the joints don't feel overly tight, but some of them worry me (like the thigh swivel)
All that aside im so happy to have a dinobot that actually looks like Dinobot!
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 15th, 2021 @ 8:29pm CDT
Here he is with my other updated maximals
Was it wrong to have Optimus Primal and Optimal Optimus in the same photo? Yeeup.
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 15th, 2021 @ 8:31pm CDT
Here he is with my updated/new predacons
Sky Byte has so many problems but I love him
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 15th, 2021 @ 8:42pm CDT
Then gave Alicon a try as Drax but Lugnut is still my favorite
Tried Arcee and Blackarachnia as Gamora and on that im conflicted
If Packrat and BW Grimlock end up getting released they'll replace my Rocket and Groot
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on April 15th, 2021 @ 9:01pm CDT
I'm thinking 1 of 2 things must have happened. 1) they realized they are completely incompetent with pre-orders and decided not to; or 2) they are simply incompetent and forgot to.
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on April 15th, 2021 @ 9:04pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:So did anyone notice that Walmart didn't even bother putting up Kingdom wave 3 for pre-order?
I'm thinking 1 of 2 things must have happened. 1) they realized they are completely incompetent with pre-orders and decided not to; or 2) they are simply incompetent and forgot to.
They didn't put up Netflix Wave 3 Deluxes either.
Also I just got Ractonite, is her frill supposed to be glued in? Mine disconnected pretty easily and revealed a tab. Obviously this is how they retooled her into a Triceratops for Tricranius, but I don't think I've seen anyone mention this.
Bald
Posted by Autobot N on April 15th, 2021 @ 9:41pm CDT
Her?Nuclearxpotato wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:So did anyone notice that Walmart didn't even bother putting up Kingdom wave 3 for pre-order?
I'm thinking 1 of 2 things must have happened. 1) they realized they are completely incompetent with pre-orders and decided not to; or 2) they are simply incompetent and forgot to.
They didn't put up Netflix Wave 3 Deluxes either.
Also I just got Ractonite, is her frill supposed to be glued in? Mine disconnected pretty easily and revealed a tab. Obviously this is how they retooled her into a Triceratops for Tricranius, but I don't think I've seen anyone mention this.
Bald
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on April 15th, 2021 @ 9:49pm CDT
Autobot N wrote:Her?Nuclearxpotato wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:So did anyone notice that Walmart didn't even bother putting up Kingdom wave 3 for pre-order?
I'm thinking 1 of 2 things must have happened. 1) they realized they are completely incompetent with pre-orders and decided not to; or 2) they are simply incompetent and forgot to.
They didn't put up Netflix Wave 3 Deluxes either.
Also I just got Ractonite, is her frill supposed to be glued in? Mine disconnected pretty easily and revealed a tab. Obviously this is how they retooled her into a Triceratops for Tricranius, but I don't think I've seen anyone mention this.
Bald
Lotta people are referring to many of the Fossilizers (and other characters introduced in WFC that Hasbro has yet to actually establish a gender for, like Smashdown) as female
Posted by Hellscream9999 on April 15th, 2021 @ 9:51pm CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:So did anyone notice that Walmart didn't even bother putting up Kingdom wave 3 for pre-order?
I'm thinking 1 of 2 things must have happened. 1) they realized they are completely incompetent with pre-orders and decided not to; or 2) they are simply incompetent and forgot to.
They didn't put up Netflix Wave 3 Deluxes either.
Also I just got Ractonite, is her frill supposed to be glued in? Mine disconnected pretty easily and revealed a tab. Obviously this is how they retooled her into a Triceratops for Tricranius, but I don't think I've seen anyone mention this.
Bald
Mine was like that, had to gorilla glue it back in as it just would not stay in place
Posted by o.supreme on April 15th, 2021 @ 10:18pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 15th, 2021 @ 10:51pm CDT
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on April 15th, 2021 @ 11:05pm CDT
I like to think of the Fossilizers as the creations of Vertebreak. She's just making a collection of evil sisters.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 15th, 2021 @ 11:08pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 15th, 2021 @ 11:21pm CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:I tend to use feminine pronouns for any new character to help round out my collection, I did it with AoE Slash and Scorn (fingers crossed for CHUG Scorn!!) and the Fossilizers. Wingfinger also has a female alt-mode (then again, so does Inferno, Waspinator, Tigatron, etc)
I like to think of the Fossilizers as the creations of Vertebreak. She's just making a collection of evil sisters.
Makes me think of the night sisters on Dathomir (star wars)
Pretty cool
Posted by Emerje on April 16th, 2021 @ 1:29am CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Also I just got Ractonite, is her frill supposed to be glued in? Mine disconnected pretty easily and revealed a tab. Obviously this is how they retooled her into a Triceratops for Tricranius, but I don't think I've seen anyone mention this.
Bald
Could be a vestigial thing from early on when the crest was supposed to split and go on the shoulders and the rest of the skull made a "hand".
Emerje
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 16th, 2021 @ 4:16am CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:I updated my Guardians of the Galaxy cast with Dinobot as Groot
Then gave Alicon a try as Drax but Lugnut is still my favorite
Tried Arcee and Blackarachnia as Gamora and on that im conflicted
If Packrat and BW Grimlock end up getting released they'll replace my Rocket and Groot
I love this idea so much, that's a great way to theme a display.
As for gender in tfs, I say, each to their own, even if it goes against what HasTak say officially (unless it's completely obvious like Arcee/Strongarm/Windblade etc)
If someone wants wingfinger as a girl because of the alt mode, have at it.
Posted by Emerje on April 16th, 2021 @ 6:44am CDT
o.supreme wrote:I figured it was meant to come off . I just kept it the way it was, it seems to plug in ok on him. As for gender, Smashdown I guess was confirmed as female in a trading card game, none of the fossilizers have though, so I use the masculine default until there is an official source stating otherwise.
Apparently it was a member of the TCG staff accidentally referring to Smashdown as female which is what started the confusion. It was the Earth Wars bio (posted by Sabr above) and later Hasbro's own staff that set his gender.
Vertebreak sets the precedence for female Fossilizers, no reason why any of the combining ones can't be. I suspect Paradon Medic Dracodon will be female as well.
Emeje
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2021 @ 9:13am CDT
Emerje wrote:Vertebreak sets the precedence for female Fossilizers, no reason why any of the combining ones can't be. I suspect Paradon Medic Dracodon will be female as well.
Emeje
Sabrblade wrote:Wingfinger and Dracodon were definitely called "he"/"his" in the Hasbro Pulse FanFest presentation.
Posted by cruizerdave on April 16th, 2021 @ 11:43am CDT
Posted by aronjlove on April 16th, 2021 @ 11:46am CDT
cruizerdave wrote:So once again we have to fix Hasbro's quality control for them.
Uh, context? I see a 6 so I'm guessing the other five explain what was fixed?
Posted by cruizerdave on April 16th, 2021 @ 12:07pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2021 @ 12:09pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 16th, 2021 @ 12:10pm CDT
aronjlove wrote:cruizerdave wrote:So once again we have to fix Hasbro's quality control for them.
Uh, context? I see a 6 so I'm guessing the other five explain what was fixed?
The inner shoulder joints are flipped 180. I don't know how that affects articulation when it comes to the joint "stopping" however.
Posted by aronjlove on April 16th, 2021 @ 12:42pm CDT
cruizerdave wrote:Sorry, I had to go and edit that post. It's much more non-nonsensical now!
Thank you! I knew there was more to it
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 16th, 2021 @ 4:42pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on April 16th, 2021 @ 4:45pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do you think is the chance that Hasbro will fix the arm issue before this figure sees mass release? I think this was something that should've been asked and pressed on during the conference call the other day.
Maybe the actual issue wasn't known at that time? I certainly hope they fix it, because I don't really want to go through all that.
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 16th, 2021 @ 4:47pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do you think is the chance that Hasbro will fix the arm issue before this figure sees mass release? I think this was something that should've been asked and pressed on during the conference call the other day.
Maybe the actual issue wasn't known at that time? I certainly hope they fix it, because I don't really want to go through all that.
I may have missed this, but what impact does this error have on the figure? Is the arm articulation reversed?
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on April 16th, 2021 @ 4:54pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:sol magnus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do you think is the chance that Hasbro will fix the arm issue before this figure sees mass release? I think this was something that should've been asked and pressed on during the conference call the other day.
Maybe the actual issue wasn't known at that time? I certainly hope they fix it, because I don't really want to go through all that.
I may have missed this, but what impact does this error have on the figure? Is the arm articulation reversed?
Basically as intended the shoulders are slightly higher, but as constructed they're slightly lower and look like they're drooping down.
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 16th, 2021 @ 5:02pm CDT
Jeddostotle7 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:sol magnus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do you think is the chance that Hasbro will fix the arm issue before this figure sees mass release? I think this was something that should've been asked and pressed on during the conference call the other day.
Maybe the actual issue wasn't known at that time? I certainly hope they fix it, because I don't really want to go through all that.
I may have missed this, but what impact does this error have on the figure? Is the arm articulation reversed?
Basically as intended the shoulders are slightly higher, but as constructed they're slightly lower and look like they're drooping down.
Ah I get you, thanks
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on April 16th, 2021 @ 5:03pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:sol magnus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do you think is the chance that Hasbro will fix the arm issue before this figure sees mass release? I think this was something that should've been asked and pressed on during the conference call the other day.
Maybe the actual issue wasn't known at that time? I certainly hope they fix it, because I don't really want to go through all that.
I may have missed this, but what impact does this error have on the figure? Is the arm articulation reversed?
Basically as intended the shoulders are slightly higher, but as constructed they're slightly lower and look like they're drooping down.
EDIT: Crap, I was delayed in sending this and I got beat to the punch.
EDIT 2: Crap, wait, that was me. Why did I still have the "Write post" page open with that message if I'd already sent it?
Posted by aronjlove on April 16th, 2021 @ 5:22pm CDT
Jeddostotle7 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:sol magnus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:What do you think is the chance that Hasbro will fix the arm issue before this figure sees mass release? I think this was something that should've been asked and pressed on during the conference call the other day.
Maybe the actual issue wasn't known at that time? I certainly hope they fix it, because I don't really want to go through all that.
I may have missed this, but what impact does this error have on the figure? Is the arm articulation reversed?
Basically as intended the shoulders are slightly higher, but as constructed they're slightly lower and look like they're drooping down.
EDIT: Crap, I was delayed in sending this and I got beat to the punch.
EDIT 2: Crap, wait, that was me. Why did I still have the "Write post" page open with that message if I'd already sent it?
a glitch in the Matrix?
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 16th, 2021 @ 5:24pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2021 @ 6:42pm CDT
Posted by GrumpyPrime on April 16th, 2021 @ 7:22pm CDT
I like the idea of a Titan Ark. But I'm gonna pass on it. The Ark does not look how I think it should. In Ark mode the big gaps where the legs are folding in are just UGLY and the G1 Cartoon Ark has 5 thrusters not 4!
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 16th, 2021 @ 8:37pm CDT
Yeah that's the general consensus. It's a big fail on the designers' part.GrumpyPrime wrote:Hi there,
I like the idea of a Titan Ark. But I'm gonna pass on it. The Ark does not look how I think it should. In Ark mode the big gaps where the legs are folding in are just UGLY
Well this is Kingdom Ark, which may only have 4 thrusters, we'll find out once the miniseries drops. But I agree, it should have 5 to be truly G1. I mean, the comic version had 4 thrusters, but that was also metallic silver and not yellow.and the G1 Cartoon Ark has 5 thrusters not 4!
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2021 @ 11:04pm CDT
The Ark to be seen in the Kingdom episodes of the Netflix show will undoubtedly be the same Ark that we've been following across Siege and Earthrise. It would not make sense for there to be two different Arks once Kingdom starts.Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah that's the general consensus. It's a big fail on the designers' part.GrumpyPrime wrote:Hi there,
I like the idea of a Titan Ark. But I'm gonna pass on it. The Ark does not look how I think it should. In Ark mode the big gaps where the legs are folding in are just UGLYWell this is Kingdom Ark, which may only have 4 thrusters, we'll find out once the miniseries drops. But I agree, it should have 5 to be truly G1. I mean, the comic version had 4 thrusters, but that was also metallic silver and not yellow.and the G1 Cartoon Ark has 5 thrusters not 4!
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on April 16th, 2021 @ 11:41pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The Ark to be seen in the Kingdom episodes of the Netflix show will undoubtedly be the same Ark that we've been following across Siege and Earthrise. It would not make sense for there to be two different Arks once Kingdom starts.Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah that's the general consensus. It's a big fail on the designers' part.GrumpyPrime wrote:Hi there,
I like the idea of a Titan Ark. But I'm gonna pass on it. The Ark does not look how I think it should. In Ark mode the big gaps where the legs are folding in are just UGLYWell this is Kingdom Ark, which may only have 4 thrusters, we'll find out once the miniseries drops. But I agree, it should have 5 to be truly G1. I mean, the comic version had 4 thrusters, but that was also metallic silver and not yellow.and the G1 Cartoon Ark has 5 thrusters not 4!
Well, technically the Maximals and Predacons could have landed on Earth in A version of the Ark, just not THE Ark. Of course, if that's the case, the asset for the Ark we've been seeing will likely be reused regardless, but it could be how they explain why it can suddenly transform despite not doing that previously
Posted by Sabrblade on April 17th, 2021 @ 12:15am CDT
With big red Autobot symbols on it?Sentinel_Primal wrote:Well, technically the Maximals and Predacons could have landed on Earth in A version of the Ark, just not THE Ark.