New Images and Comparisons of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai (Powermaster Prime) Updated with New Head Reveal

aren't the feet mistransformed?...






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NEVER MIND! the feet looks way more accurate and cooler.

Mechastrike wrote:NEVER MIND! the feet looks way more accurate and cooler.

But are they 90$ cooler?

I think they look bad and thats because the trailer panels dont extend down. It would look better if they did. But as it is, it just looks like Optimus is standing on boxes, like those idiots at halloween who think they are witty with their little people costumes.

Thunderclap huh? Is that foreshadowing a thunderclash repaint?

Please say yes.

That Optimus headmaster looks... pretty bad. Good thing there's a helmet; I'd pretty much just have the headmaster transformed all the time because GINRAI

The feet feel fine to me tbh.

Kurona wrote:That Optimus headmaster looks... pretty bad. Good thing there's a helmet; I'd pretty much just have the headmaster transformed all the time because GINRAI

The feet feel fine to me tbh.

Yeah they're not awful. They're just odd. Personally I don't mind he Hasbro one, it'll be the one I own, if I ever find but it I will toddy that thing is damn gorgeous.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!

As soon that the preorders are up, I shall preorder it with the power of a thousands suns!



Still, Hasbro's Powermaster version is SO different, it may be worth owning.... But only at the 30$CAN sale.

-Kanrabat- wrote::michaelbay: THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!

As soon that the preorders are up, I shall preorder it with the power of a thousands suns!



Still, Hasbro's Powermaster version is SO different, it may be worth owning.... But only at the 30$CAN sale.

They're up in most online shops. $90 US though. That's way too steep for me sadly for a toy

I think I'll get both, Powermaster Optimus Prime is my favorite version of Optimus Prime.

I already own:
2 original US versions.
The Black Japanese TRU exclusive Super Convoy.
An original 100% complete MITB of God Ginrai.
The Japanese reissue of God Ginrai.
The Hasbro reissue of God Ginrai as Powermaster Optimus Prime with Apex Armor.

So what's two more?

If anyone in the UK is interested in it; Kapow have reduced it's pre-order price right off the bat to that of just above a leader-class.
https://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/transformer ... inrai.html

Super Ginrai's arms and hands are new too.

That little Optimus Prime headmaster is pretty cute. Too bad it's not sold separately. That and Hasbro's Cerebros.

Cyberpath wrote:That little Optimus Prime headmaster is pretty cute. Too bad it's not sold separately, too. That and Hasbro's Cerebros.

Remember; we will be getting an Optimus Headmaster from the upcoming Voyager anyway.

Kurona wrote:Remember; we will be getting an Optimus Headmaster from the upcoming Voyager anyway.

Just want the head though. :)

another clear winner from takara

It really is amazing the extra effort put into Super Ginrai. And I'm even being swayed to Takara's Galvatron!! What the heck.

The feet on Super Ginrai look horrible

This is one that really is better looking than the Hasbro version. However, it's not twice the price better to me and I don't even have the TR version yet. I can get Blaster and PMOP for the price of this guy.

I'm getting Legends Blurr and Astrotrain and that's it so far. Mainly because I stupidly didn't preorder Scourge and Galvatron and now I regret it. I still want the TR version of each but I wanted the Legends versions as well. I also want the Legends deluxes that come with with little vehicles but the prices on those are a little higher than I'm comfortable with. I wish Takara would just release those separately.

william-james88 wrote:Fellow Seibertronians Cyberpath, Logan 79 and Fenrir 72 have all helped us find the pictures we need for this news article providing you the best images of Takara Tranformers LG-35 Super Ginrai, Takara's version of Powermaster Optimus Prime.

We have stock images from Dengeki Hobby, some grey scale images from Wonderfest Summer 2016 and even comparisons to the Hasbro release.

There is a lot of retooling with the Takara version to the point where the base mode has a totally different look. The most obvious difference in vehicle mode is the cab while in robot mode it is the chest and feet. Speaking of the feet, while they may look off they are actually transformed correctly. It is meant to convey the look of the G1 toy. However, what is off is that those feet extend below the trailer panels that usually reach all the way down the leg in the toy and in the show. Let us know if you preffer this to the Hasbro version or if the Takara version is worth the import premium which has importers asking 95$ for him.

One last thing of note, in the Dengeki article, he is referred to as LG35 Thunderclap.
















Transformers Super God Masterforce Powermaster Optimus Prime (Super Ginrai) Gallery

UPDATE: A new 6 hour video from Dengeki Hobby reveals the titan master head of LG35 Super Ginrai, which had yet to be revealed. It is a miniature Optimus Prime head unlike the Orion Pax homage the Hasbro version sports. Plus they compared the two versions side by side.

Oh. My. God.

So fucking sold. Seriously, this is amazing. I'll gladly pay 100 bucks for him. Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

Alpha Weltall wrote:This is one that really is better looking than the Hasbro version. However, it's not twice the price better to me and I don't even have the TR version yet. I can get Blaster and PMOP for the price of this guy.

I'm getting Legends Blurr and Astrotrain and that's it so far. Mainly because I stupidly didn't preorder Scourge and Galvatron and now I regret it. I still want the TR version of each but I wanted the Legends versions as well. I also want the Legends deluxes that come with with little vehicles but the prices on those are a little higher than I'm comfortable with. I wish Takara would just release those separately.

If it helps, Galvatron is still in-stock at HLJ:
http://hlj.com/product/TKT86848/Sci?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

And Scourge is still available for pre-order:
http://hlj.com/product/TKT86851/Sci?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

Cyberpath wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:This is one that really is better looking than the Hasbro version. However, it's not twice the price better to me and I don't even have the TR version yet. I can get Blaster and PMOP for the price of this guy.

I'm getting Legends Blurr and Astrotrain and that's it so far. Mainly because I stupidly didn't preorder Scourge and Galvatron and now I regret it. I still want the TR version of each but I wanted the Legends versions as well. I also want the Legends deluxes that come with with little vehicles but the prices on those are a little higher than I'm comfortable with. I wish Takara would just release those separately.

If it helps, Galvatron is still in-stock at HLJ:
http://hlj.com/product/TKT86848/Sci?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

And Scourge is still available for pre-order:
http://hlj.com/product/TKT86851/Sci?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

Thanks! I stopped looking after a few sites had them listed as sold out.

Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.

Worth it. It would be nice if Hasbro offered more than bottom of the barrel options. They would get more of my money.

Ironhidensh wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.

Worth it. It would be nice if Hasbro offered more than bottom of the barrel options. They would get more of my money.

I don't see how an extensive retool is a bottom of the barrel option. But then again nothing Hasbro does is good enough for you

Ironhidensh wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.

Worth it. It would be nice if Hasbro offered more than bottom of the barrel options. They would get more of my money.

Compared to the original version of the mold, Hasbro's retooling of Ultra Magnus into Powermaster Optimus Prime seems far more extensive than Takara's retooling of Powermaster Optimus Prime into Super Ginrai. In the former case, Hasbro retooled nearly the entirety of the mold itself from head to ankle, with barely any common aspects left between Magnus and Prime. But with the latter case, Takara merely changed the cab/inner torso, the outer torso, the forearms, the Titan Master, and the feet, along with two gun accessories, with virtually everything else left unaltered and identical in molding between Prime and Ginrai.

What's more is that Hasbro's figure is exactly what it was meant to be: An update of the Powermaster Optimus Prime design. Takara could have easily used the Hasbro version as is, since it is every bit as an update to the Super Ginrai design as it is an update to the Powermaster OP design, what with Super Ginrai and PMOP sharing the exact same original design in the 80's, with only their hands, smokestacks, and some of their colors differing between the two on a visual level.

For Takara's figure, however, the extra work they've done actually regresses the original intent behind Hasbro's figure, as the changed elements on Takara's figure no longer resemble as much of an update to the original design as Hasbro's figure, but now instead the changes more closely resemble the same original design with less updating to it. Sure, there's still the updates made to the mechanics of the figure via the implementation of modern day toy engineering, but in terms of aesthetics, the visual design has lost the original updated design manifested by the Hasbro figure, and has instead taken to more closely imitating the original design from 28 years ago in a vein similar to the Masterpiece line, but without any of the MP line's level of engineering.

In this regard, Takara's figure may have had more work put into it, but at the cost of contradicting the essential nature of the CHUG-style toylines. That is, taking the older character designs and updating them for the modern age. The MP line is what takes the original designs and replicates them into modern toy form, yet Takara has effectively put that strategy into this figure, as opposed to the more established strategy of the CHUG-style toylines, thereby partially undoing what was originally intended for this figure in the first place.

You got a very valid point here, Sarblade. Somewaht, the first surprise passed, I'm a bit disapointed by the Takara on second thought. It's just... well... the same. TOO MUCH the same. Honestly, the only thing I really don't like about the HAsbro version is the hollow arms and the accurate red fists.

I'm surprising myself, but on second thought, I think I'll go the Hasbro route. Those arms may be easy to mod with some shapeway upgrade kit down the line.

In other news, we now got an English summary for the events of that Legends comic that showed how the Headmasters and company got their Legends bodies:

In the year 2021, Fortress Maximus's Autobots clash with a returned Scorponok's Decepticons over a giant black hole that the Decepticon seeks to explode, hoping to destroy the Autobots and create plasma energy in one fell swoop. Accusing his nemesis of being mad with revenge, Fortress has his troops recover what explosives they can, only for Scorponok to detonate the rest with no concern for his own soldiers. Fortress sends Wheelie and their human friends to safety as the blast wave hits Autobots and Decepticons alike, shrinking their bodies into super deformed forms! An examination shows that being exposed to the exploding black holes has caused miniature black holes ("blackballs") to appear in their bodies, shrinking their mass and threatening to collapse the Autobots in on themselves if nothing is done.

The cassettes inside of Twincast prove to be unaffected and the Headmasters simply disconnect from their affected Transtectors, but the other Autobots are still in danger. Seeing no other option, Fortress has their heads removed and retrofitted into Headmasters as their bodies continue to shrink and eventually pop out of existence. In order to get everyone new bodies, he then suggests they visit the Legends Universe, recalling the creation of their comrades Roadbuster and Whirl. Having tracked the dimension's space-time coordinates from the two Wreckers' residual radiation, he sets out to travel there via solitarium straight away—because the battleship Maximus that makes up his body is also shrinking. As they depart, the Autobots wonder if the affected Decepticons have had the same idea, and indeed the Decepticon Headmasters have already reached the Legends Universe and struck a deal with Tera-Kura Co. scientist Tarantulas to make them new bodies. Furthermore, Tarantulas has his own scheme in mind, intending to use the Decepticons to conquer the world for himself!

I was wondering how they'd explain that...interesting.

Sabrblade wrote:a lot of good stuff

Bottom line, Hasbro can't even be bothered to paint rims. Might be a tiny detail, but one that matters to me a whole lot.

To me, Hasbro's headmaster prime isn't worth $50. Takara's is worth a hundred to me.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:a lot of good stuff

Bottom line, Hasbro can't even be bothered to paint rims. Might be a tiny detail, but one that matters to me a whole lot.

To me, Hasbro's headmaster prime isn't worth $50. Takara's is worth a hundred to me.

You sound like me a year ago when I had preordered UW Devastator

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:a lot of good stuff

Bottom line, Hasbro can't even be bothered to paint rims. Might be a tiny detail, but one that matters to me a whole lot.

To me, Hasbro's headmaster prime isn't worth $50. Takara's is worth a hundred to me.

This.

Oh and sometimes, what ain't broke, don't fix it. I like the "retro" look of Ginrai. Iconic all around good guy look. TT PM Optimus also looks BOSS..... except for the rim job.

I remember all the flack TT/UW Mixmaster got when Hb/TT altered his truck mode.

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.

Maybe one factor that hasn't been mentioned is the Yen's appreciation? Iirc, there was the premise was that the cost of TFs in Japan are more or less at par with the Hb int'l releases?

Then comes the Yen's appreciation. Same thing happened back in the 80s too. Yen appreciated and all but killed the planed Robotech Sentinels series.

Hopefully the Yen will go back to its lower levels in a few months.

Ok Hasbro fanboys trying to rationale the hollow arm and non painted rims as awesome retooling from Ultra Magnus having me smhd. Takara basically said "screw your design Hasbro" made it better and I believe the retooling will be for a future Godbomber to combine with the toy. So go Takara once again you did your thing and you will get my money.

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.

Maybe one factor that hasn't been mentioned is the Yen's appreciation? Iirc, there was the premise was that the cost of TFs in Japan are more or less at par with the Hb int'l releases?

Then comes the Yen's appreciation. Same thing happened back in the 80s too. Yen appreciated and all but killed the planed Robotech Sentinels series.

Hopefully the Yen will go back to its lower levels in a few months.

In Singapore, the retail price of a hasbro Titans Returns Leader figure is $99.9 SGD ($73.5 US). Hobby stores are asking ~$105-115 SGD (~$80US) for the takara LG version.

So yeah, I believe Takara's pricing for this figure is akin to hasbro's international retail.

Takara deluxes, on the other hand.... Even when you factor in the extra vehicle it comes with, it still is pretty pricey.

A bit late I know but super ginrai looks amazing, I want to get both takara and hasbro just so prime can shake ginrais hand.

Ironhidesh are you complaining about the west's modern business practices again? Where profit is god. I can understand comparing hasbro to takara, especially when they release the same products but I think the harsh words that some use on the hasbro forgets the scenario that the hasbro tf team find themselves in, I reckon the majority of the time they are trying their best with what they have

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipN ... JvMS02ZEhR


More much more than meets the eye!

I kinda want those Thunderbirds.

Kurona wrote:I kinda want those Thunderbirds.

Me too, I always forget that the Japanese were big fans of thunderbirds when it was brought over there

ZeroWolf wrote:A bit late I know but super ginrai looks amazing, I want to get both takara and hasbro just so prime can shake ginrais hand.

Ironhidesh are you complaining about the west's modern business practices again? Where profit is god. I can understand comparing hasbro to takara, especially when they release the same products but I think the harsh words that some use on the hasbro forgets the scenario that the hasbro tf team find themselves in, I reckon the majority of the time they are trying their best with what they have

No, they aren't. They are try to find out how much we are willing to pay for as little as possible. To be fair to Hasbro, just as much if the blame falls on fans. If we weren't so willing to settle for so little, Hasbro would probally, maybe, try a little harder.

fenrir72 wrote:
I remember all the flack TT/UW Mixmaster got when Hb/TT altered his truck mode.

Takara did manage to salvage that though by painting that back cab of mixmaster so that it could look good either way and look super G1 in Leg mode.

I have been thinking about what was written and I realize just how valid Sabr's point is. Because no matter how G1 TT's may look it is only surface level. This toy will always be a neo G1 update and not a recreation with better articulation no matter which version you get because the cab is integrated and not seperate. Hasbro owns that update in functionality by making the look different too (especially the chest, to show how different the transformation is). But instead TT paints over that. He's no longer a powermaster but a headmaster instead and the cab doesnt detach *to become its own robot), but they act like he is with the paint job. They did spend budget making a new cab mold for the toy, but only aestehtically. He's still a headmaster and the cab still doesnt come off.

So while none interest me (I would rathet just buy the G1 toy), I wold rather buy the Hasbro over the Takara one. Also, while i get the homage with the feet on Takara's they did it wrong. If someone can show me a pic from the G1 cartoon or toy that looks like those then please do because as far as I know, the feet should not extend under the trailer panels. The fact that TT does that with their Super Ginrai is just so weird and really takes away from their attempt to go for that look. Hasbro's feet end up being just as much of a G1 homage since at least they are more level with the trailer panels. So even in terms of aesthetic to G1, those feet on TT are kind of a fail.

At least thats what it looks like, I havent seen any pic showing otherwise.

I mean, to me it still feels Neo-G1 because of those inaccuracies you mentioned. I don't mind the cab not becoming a separate robot because the idea of the cab only forming part of this guy is really cool and still evokes how powerful Prime's gotten through this; and the trailer sections not reaching to the bottom works for me because it feels a lot like some sort of badass cape or longcoat hanging off him. Always been a fan of that kinda look.
The feet are the only thing that really damage it at all for me, but it feels like something you'd warm up to.

Also I don't care for powermasters at all and always thought it was stupid even compared to headmasters so that not being here is a bonus

gavinfuzzy wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Screw you Hasbro, you cost cutting bastards.

But doesnt the high price tag anticipated from this Takara product (since importers are already charging 20$ more than they did for the last Legends Leader figure) prove that Hasbro was just trying to keep things at the same price range instead of augmenting the price? Takara has a higher cost but passes it off to the consumer or so I am assuming in this case.

Maybe one factor that hasn't been mentioned is the Yen's appreciation? Iirc, there was the premise was that the cost of TFs in Japan are more or less at par with the Hb int'l releases?

Then comes the Yen's appreciation. Same thing happened back in the 80s too. Yen appreciated and all but killed the planed Robotech Sentinels series.

Hopefully the Yen will go back to its lower levels in a few months.

In Singapore, the retail price of a hasbro Titans Returns Leader figure is $99.9 SGD ($73.5 US). Hobby stores are asking ~$105-115 SGD (~$80US) for the takara LG version.

So yeah, I believe Takara's pricing for this figure is akin to hasbro's international retail.

Takara deluxes, on the other hand.... Even when you factor in the extra vehicle it comes with, it still is pretty pricey.

I have always been an avid defender of Takara's prices and price points in the past have been on par which always made hasbro look cheap since Takara wold be selling a similar item at their retail stores for a similar price bu the paint was twice as good, if not more:


Transformers Adventures Jazz Gallery

But with these new Headmasters, Takara has increased their prices for leaders by 5$ not counting exchange (not the end of the world). However Ginrai is not at the leader price point. Takara has always shown that they are not afraid to have different and even some unique price points for figures. You can see in the pics that Takara's Ginrai is bigger than Hasbro's PM prime and you can bet your ass this will factor into their price.

We can already see that it will be higher based on the importer price difference of 20$ between LG Blaster and LG Super Ginrai.

So the whole argument of takara giving you more for the same price point, which was the case for Devastator, does not stand or apply with this toy (and exchange is not even considered).

Takara has done more than Hasbro, yes, but they will be charging more than Hasbro. It's ceteris paribus.

LG TR Galvatron - Hardhead Comparisons (Thanks to @King0157 on twitter)

Ironhidensh wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:A bit late I know but super ginrai looks amazing, I want to get both takara and hasbro just so prime can shake ginrais hand.

Ironhidesh are you complaining about the west's modern business practices again? Where profit is god. I can understand comparing hasbro to takara, especially when they release the same products but I think the harsh words that some use on the hasbro forgets the scenario that the hasbro tf team find themselves in, I reckon the majority of the time they are trying their best with what they have

No, they aren't. They are try to find out how much we are willing to pay for as little as possible. To be fair to Hasbro, just as much if the blame falls on fans. If we weren't so willing to settle for so little, Hasbro would probally, maybe, try a little harder.

Well we fans are a mixed bag, some are happy with what we get as they think the toys look cool, others will be more pragmatic, and look at what they think things are worth. Both approaches have their up points and down points. I get what you're saying though but I still stand by my comment, it may be conjecture but I prefer to optimistically think that the hasbro tf team aren't all trying to screw us over. After all their hands may be tied due to demands from above them.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:a lot of good stuff

Bottom line, Hasbro can't even be bothered to paint rims. Might be a tiny detail, but one that matters to me a whole lot.

To me, Hasbro's headmaster prime isn't worth $50. Takara's is worth a hundred to me.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts as well. Paint details are important to me. When rims, tail lights, head lights and faces etc. are not painted it just looks cheap and lazy. Plus the Takara one doesn't look so much like a retooled Ultra Magnus, and that matters.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:A bit late I know but super ginrai looks amazing, I want to get both takara and hasbro just so prime can shake ginrais hand.

Ironhidesh are you complaining about the west's modern business practices again? Where profit is god. I can understand comparing hasbro to takara, especially when they release the same products but I think the harsh words that some use on the hasbro forgets the scenario that the hasbro tf team find themselves in, I reckon the majority of the time they are trying their best with what they have

No, they aren't. They are try to find out how much we are willing to pay for as little as possible. To be fair to Hasbro, just as much if the blame falls on fans. If we weren't so willing to settle for so little, Hasbro would probally, maybe, try a little harder.

Well we fans are a mixed bag, some are happy with what we get as they think the toys look cool, others will be more pragmatic, and look at what they think things are worth. Both approaches have their up points and down points. I get what you're saying though but I still stand by my comment, it may be conjecture but I prefer to optimistically think that the hasbro tf team aren't all trying to screw us over. After all their hands may be tied due to demands from above them.

Indeed......fans are such a mixed bag.
Btw, if money is such a big issue, why not just get one version. Whether it be TT or Hb and get it over it. Yes, we fans just like the song..........."You can't get no satisfaction"......whether it be updating or retrogating, price, hollowness etc etc etc (to paraphrase Yul Bryner).

I've rarely been as disappointed in a figure's reveal as I was when I saw Hasbro's PMP. While Takara's still isn't perfect (no small robot still bums me out) it actually looks like the character it's supposed to look like. I don't know if I'll be able to afford it, but I know I'd much rather spend $90 on the Takara than however much the Hasbro version costs.

In the wake of all the exciting SDCC news, fellow Seibertronian Logan79 has shared with us pictures from King0157's Twitter Account comparing Titans Return Hardhead and Galvatron to their long awaited Takara Tomy Transformers Legends counterparts. Check out the comparisons below and tell us what you think in the comments!

Hmmm I like hasbro galvatron but prefer takara nucleon. Solution: buy hasbro and paint nucleon.

Hope you get the news crew nod kurona

ZeroWolf wrote:Hmmm I like hasbro galvatron but prefer takara nucleon. Solution: buy hasbro and paint nucleon.

Hope you get the news crew nod kurona

Ah, but; consider - Takara Galvatron as Marvel Galvatron II?
And thanks