Possible Power of the Primes Volcanicus Box Set Coming Soon

It would be a very cheap move on Hasbro's part and a kick in the nads of people that already bought the entire set.

It could just be ToyWiz themselves selling all five individually-packaged Dinobots as a bundled offer.

You can tell it's a silhouette of the Earth Wars model thanks to Swoop's launchers.

I would hope that the boxset does come with a sword, but not the upsized FOC Grimlock sword seen in Earth Wars. I would want a sword whose design was more in line with the G1 Dinobot swords, and which was possibly a combining weapon like Victorion's sword.

I would also like to see a G2 Volcanicus boxset, because I am a sucker for G2 color schemes (just look at my avatar, I think that says it all).

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:You can tell it's a silhouette of the Earth Wars model thanks to Swoop's launchers.

I would hope that the boxset does come with a sword, but not the upsized FOC Grimlock sword seen in Earth Wars. I would want a sword whose design was more in line with the G1 Dinobot swords, and which was possibly a combining weapon like Victorion's sword.

I would also like to see a G2 Volcanicus boxset, because I am a sucker for G2 color schemes (just look at my avatar, I think that says it all).

Personally, I would be quite peeved to be getting a G2 Volcanicus before a G2 Defensor.... There is a gaping hole in my G2 combiners where Defensor MUST be.

Why so much? Four $15-20 figures and a $30 torso figure shouldnt be more than $110 wtf???? Better be G2 deco

Rated X wrote:Why so much? Four $15-20 figures and a $30 torso figure shouldnt be more than $110 wtf???? Better be G2 deco

I wouldn't think too much about the price. Toywiz is notorious for majorly marking stuff up.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Rated X wrote:Why so much? Four $15-20 figures and a $30 torso figure shouldnt be more than $110 wtf???? Better be G2 deco

I wouldn't think too much about the price. Toywiz is notorious for majorly marking stuff up.

It's all of $12 more than their price for buying the set individually.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The other candidates played into it more obviously.
* Ultra Magnus: ...Enough said, really.
* Megatron: Evolving to most likely Galvatron (corresponding with Rodimus Prime) or else maybe to Super or Ultra Megatron.
* Thunderwing: Adaptation of his Mega Pretender gimmick
* Star Saber: "Evolving" from Saber to Star Saber, working basically like the original toy.
* Optimus Primal (yes, I say this is obvious): Evolving from his regular body to the Optimal Optimus body, since that fits with the Prime themeing and also works better size and engineering-wise than having him evolve to the Transmetal body.

Evolving Megatron, Thunderwing and Star Saber would have been cool. I don't think Ultra Magnus would have worked, considering his lesser known "repaint of Optimus" inner body (not to mention they already did something similar with Minimus Ambus).

Move on from the poll discussion please, it's not relevant to the thread.

kurthy wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Rated X wrote:Why so much? Four $15-20 figures and a $30 torso figure shouldnt be more than $110 wtf???? Better be G2 deco

I wouldn't think too much about the price. Toywiz is notorious for majorly marking stuff up.

It's all of $12 more than their price for buying the set individually.

Legends are $11
Deluxe are around $18
Voyagers are $25
So at retail those 6 figures should AT MOST be $108. That's a far cry from $170

steals_your_goats wrote:

kurthy wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I wouldn't think too much about the price. Toywiz is notorious for majorly marking stuff up.

It's all of $12 more than their price for buying the set individually.

Legends are $11
Deluxe are around $18
Voyagers are $25
So at retail those 6 figures should AT MOST be $108. That's a far cry from $170

Which is why Toywiz's price of $29.99 for swoop is insane.
https://toywiz.com/transformers-generations-power-of-the-primes-dinobot-swoop-deluxe-action-figure/

All their prices are ridiculous including $169.99 for a box set.

Would be nice if they added some new stuff there to help with the hard-to-swallow price tag. Would be even cooler if they retooled slash to have her combine with the rest of the team

Excited for Inferno to add to my Protectobot collection. Nnot that I need him.

I might get Outback, n9t attached to Cundersaur but we'll see if I jump on him in stores

I'll take a G2 Volcanicus set please Settle once and for who red and who is green. SiGSiR, anyone?

I personally prefer the more common Green Slag and Red Snarl. The color layout is more pleasing to my eye on those than the other way 'round.

Still hoping in vain for Dinoking repaint of Volcanicus. Yes, I know Dinoking was a Monstructor repaint but an update would make more sense as the Dinobot combiner with new colors and maybe heads, either individual heads for robots or a new combiner head. Then add a 5mm port on top of Grimlock's dinohead to peg in a parts-forming yellow chest armor and he's good to go.

Sadly, it seems Takara's golden age of repaints and retools that make people feel smug about buying them is unfortunately over.

Burn wrote:Move on from the poll discussion please, it's not relevant to the thread.

I'm not trying to be contrary, but I'm genuinely curious, as I'm sure others are (hence not sending you a PM), why discussing the Power of the Primes poll in the Power of the Primes thread is off topic? It isn't exactly timely, but it seems topical with all of the Optimal Optimus talk that it spawned from.

Emerje

Skritz wrote:Still hoping in vain for Dinoking repaint of Volcanicus. Yes, I know Dinoking was a Monstructor repaint but an update would make more sense as the Dinobot combiner with new colors and maybe heads, either individual heads for robots or a new combiner head. Then add a 5mm port on top of Grimlock's dinohead to peg in a parts-forming yellow chest armor and he's good to go.

Sadly, it seems Takara's golden age of repaints and retools that make people feel smug about buying them is unfortunately over.

I'm definitely all for a Dinoking repaint of the Dinobots since that was an actual G1 dinosaur combiner that existed. I'm also wondering if there was ever confirmation of a Waverider Prime Master coming out. My Masterforce Autobot collection wouldn't be complete with just Metalhawk, Cloudburst, & Landmine.

Emerje wrote:

Burn wrote:Move on from the poll discussion please, it's not relevant to the thread.

I'm not trying to be contrary, but I'm genuinely curious, as I'm sure others are (hence not sending you a PM), why discussing the Power of the Primes poll in the Power of the Primes thread is off topic? It isn't exactly timely, but it seems topical with all of the Optimal Optimus talk that it spawned from.

Emerje

Because when I was catching up, a good portion of said discussion centred around Trypticon and his lack of a premium release.

Sabrblade wrote:It could just be ToyWiz themselves selling all five individually-packaged Dinobots as a bundled offer.

I seem to remember ToyWiz doing something similar with Superion & Menasor a few years ago. I double checked at the time & it wasn't a Unite Warriors set or a special box set, just the 5 separate figures sold as a bundle. I'm guessing they are doing the same thing here, but time will tell.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Rated X wrote:Why so much? Four $15-20 figures and a $30 torso figure shouldnt be more than $110 wtf???? Better be G2 deco

I wouldn't think too much about the price. Toywiz is notorious for majorly marking stuff up.

I agree, only a complete moron buys anything from them.

So, with Optimus Primal getting a new figure depicting him in his Optimal Optimus form can I bring up something which has always fascinated me with that design: his colors are so frickin' weird! Not that I mean it in a bad way, I find that it makes him certainly stand out from all other Optimuses (Optimi?) even more than all his previous forms, what with that bright orange but I cannot deny how odd a color scheme it is. It's just such a drastic departure both from previous Optimus figures and from Primal's own primarily grey/brown color schemes with blue accents, what with replacing most of what was previous grey or some shade of brown in his two previous forms with a bright orange and some metallic burgundy.

I like it, but I can't help but wonder wtf went through the designer's mind. It's so out of left field for a 'good guy leader bot' toy, where nearly all Autobot/Maximals leader characters had stuck to red and/or blue, even with Primal's original body using white, red and blue for accents and his Transmetal form having chromed blue for the main color of beast mode.

Can't help but think that, had Beast Wars somehow been made later, they would have opted for the more logical color scheme of Primal Prime.

Possible Power of the Primes Volcanicus Box Set Coming Soon

AH! Saw this coming from a mile away. However, make the set G2 colors. Then I'll be all over it. If it's the same deco, I'll skip it like the single dinos.

My top priorities remain Abobinus and Predaking.
Speaking of Predaking, why many people said it was "underwhelming"? Because from the pictures shown, it look quite awesome.

There has to be something special about this box set. My bet is that it uses chrome, which would be part of the reason the price is jacked. Also, the listing says that Slash can augment Volcanicus. Does this mean we will have an official method for adding Slash to the combiner?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Possible Power of the Primes Volcanicus Box Set Coming Soon

AH! Saw this coming from a mile away. However, make the set G2 colors. Then I'll be all over it. If it's the same deco, I'll skip it like the single dinos.

My top priorities remain Abobinus and Predaking.
Speaking of Predaking, why many people said it was "underwhelming"? Because from the pictures shown, it look quite awesome.

But the nearly-identical (except for that weirdo, Swoop) deco is arguably one of the strongest points on Volcanicus, making him way more visually coherent than any CW/PotP team except Victorion.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:There has to be something special about this box set. My bet is that it uses chrome, which would be part of the reason the price is jacked. Also, the listing says that Slash can augment Volcanicus. Does this mean we will have an official method for adding Slash to the combiner?

That was based on preliminary rumors, plus the lack of knowledge on the PotP Combiner setup (no 6th members for combining!). However...

Relic0037 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:It could just be ToyWiz themselves selling all five individually-packaged Dinobots as a bundled offer.

I seem to remember ToyWiz doing something similar with Superion & Menasor a few years ago. I double checked at the time & it wasn't a Unite Warriors set or a special box set, just the 5 separate figures sold as a bundle. I'm guessing they are doing the same thing here, but time will tell.

Despite everyone's hopes for a true box set, I find this to be the most likely scenario in all honesty, until other stores post listings for it.

Hey, Predaking and Devastator also have unified color schemes. OTOH they're also Titan-class when nobody else among the combiners is...

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Hey, Predaking and Devastator also have unified color schemes. OTOH they're also Titan-class when nobody else among the combiners is...

I count those separately as they are not Scramble City/Combiner Wars-type teams.

Skritz wrote:So, with Optimus Primal getting a new figure depicting him in his Optimal Optimus form can I bring up something which has always fascinated me with that design: his colors are so frickin' weird! Not that I mean it in a bad way, I find that it makes him certainly stand out from all other Optimuses (Optimi?) even more than all his previous forms, what with that bright orange but I cannot deny how odd a color scheme it is. It's just such a drastic departure both from previous Optimus figures and from Primal's own primarily grey/brown color schemes with blue accents, what with replacing most of what was previous grey or some shade of brown in his two previous forms with a bright orange and some metallic burgundy.

I like it, but I can't help but wonder wtf went through the designer's mind. It's so out of left field for a 'good guy leader bot' toy, where nearly all Autobot/Maximals leader characters had stuck to red and/or blue, even with Primal's original body using white, red and blue for accents and his Transmetal form having chromed blue for the main color of beast mode.

Can't help but think that, had Beast Wars somehow been made later, they would have opted for the more logical color scheme of Primal Prime.

Action masters Optimus prime comes to mind as does gobot Optimus prime. OP completely messing with the classic color scheme does happen occasionally. Also, it could be meant originally to envoke another autobot leader that got a power up from getting something out of OP's chest. He also happened to be burgundy and orange.

kurthy wrote:

Skritz wrote:So, with Optimus Primal getting a new figure depicting him in his Optimal Optimus form can I bring up something which has always fascinated me with that design: his colors are so frickin' weird! Not that I mean it in a bad way, I find that it makes him certainly stand out from all other Optimuses (Optimi?) even more than all his previous forms, what with that bright orange but I cannot deny how odd a color scheme it is. It's just such a drastic departure both from previous Optimus figures and from Primal's own primarily grey/brown color schemes with blue accents, what with replacing most of what was previous grey or some shade of brown in his two previous forms with a bright orange and some metallic burgundy.

I like it, but I can't help but wonder wtf went through the designer's mind. It's so out of left field for a 'good guy leader bot' toy, where nearly all Autobot/Maximals leader characters had stuck to red and/or blue, even with Primal's original body using white, red and blue for accents and his Transmetal form having chromed blue for the main color of beast mode.

Can't help but think that, had Beast Wars somehow been made later, they would have opted for the more logical color scheme of Primal Prime.

Action masters Optimus prime comes to mind as does gobot Optimus prime. OP completely messing with the classic color scheme does happen occasionally. Also, it could be meant originally to envoke another autobot leader that got a power up from getting something out of OP's chest. He also happened to be burgundy and orange.

The real explanation: It was the 90s.

^That. So very much that. Just look at the Transmetals and Transmetals 2 across the board. So much 90s to the color schemes.

I suppose 'it was the '90' is a reasonable explanation. I certainly like it, especially when you realize that the final form of Optimus Primal and Megatron (not counting Beast Machine) are both very unique in their palette. In particular, Transmetal 2 Megatron is, to my knowledge, the only primarily red Megatron not counting possibly repaints. I'd say him being purple in the two previous forms is unique compared to G1 grey Megatron...but G2 Megatron is where adding purple to a Megatron design started and it stayed quite strong until the 2007, which brought grey back as his main color.

That's what I find cool of their later forms: when you put them in a crowd of their namesake you can instantly pick them out which really help establish them as unique and distinct characters from the others of that name.

Edit: I'd say my favorite 'wtf recolor' of Optimus in recent years has to be this guy:

Sure, I use him as Nova Prime but I have to admit that this is a very, very nice color scheme for Optimus Prime. It looks regal, almost holy.

Skritz wrote:Edit: I'd say my favorite 'wtf recolor' of Optimus in recent years has to be this guy:

Sure, I use him as Nova Prime but I have to admit that this is a very, very nice color scheme for Optimus Prime. It looks regal, almost holy.

He's my favorite to, for those same reason.
And the Star Convoy-esque head.

Kinda wish we'd see one more bizarre recolor and retool in PotP, but I suspect the sheer 'wtf factor' got eaten by the gorgeous Shattered Glass Rodimus Unicronus. Had this guy not been revealed early on during the leaks, I would have sworn that they would just have made a White Optimus and called it 'Dion and Ultra Magnus' to be lazy. A Rodimus in that color and a new head? Oh wow, did I not expect that at all and oh man am I glad we got that.

I also realize that it's a much more realistic color scheme for the kind of truck Optimus is supposed to be. Most trailer trucks I see tend to be black, white or blue: very few if any red.

Anyone remember the Target exclusive Beast Hunters Cyberverse Optimus and Predaking two pack? I still own that set... Twice. One open to play, one sealed for display. It's really kick-ass.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Possible Power of the Primes Volcanicus Box Set Coming Soon

AH! Saw this coming from a mile away. However, make the set G2 colors. Then I'll be all over it. If it's the same deco, I'll skip it like the single dinos.

My top priorities remain Abobinus and Predaking.
Speaking of Predaking, why many people said it was "underwhelming"? Because from the pictures shown, it look quite awesome.

He does look awesome, but there are some aspects that leave me a bit underwhelmed. Like the long kibble backpack of the leg componenets in robot mode, the lack of gold on the predaking wings, Divemomb's alt mode looking pretty bad, the lack of a big sword for predaking and the lack of spike on the knuckles.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:There has to be something special about this box set. My bet is that it uses chrome, which would be part of the reason the price is jacked. Also, the listing says that Slash can augment Volcanicus. Does this mean we will have an official method for adding Slash to the combiner?

We wont. All evidence points to this just being the 6 individual bots sold in a lot.

Skritz wrote:Still hoping in vain for Dinoking repaint of Volcanicus.

DecepticonFinishline wrote:
Thus, my hope for potential extra figures that no one has seen yet.

Bronzewolf wrote:There is still some hope of a combiner limb Sideswipe

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Still holding out hope for a PotP Scorn.

Wow, so much hope.

william-james88 wrote:Wow, so much hope.

william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Anyone remember the Target exclusive Beast Hunters Cyberverse Optimus and Predaking two pack? I still own that set... Twice. One open to play, one sealed for display. It's really kick-ass.

I know the Optimus was a Thunderclash homage, but what about that Predaking?

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Anyone remember the Target exclusive Beast Hunters Cyberverse Optimus and Predaking two pack? I still own that set... Twice. One open to play, one sealed for display. It's really kick-ass.

I know the Optimus was a Thunderclash homage, but what about that Predaking?

Best (but probably not the right) guess I could ever think of was RiD 2001 Megatron.

Sabrblade wrote:Best (but probably not the right) guess I could ever think of was RiD 2001 Megatron.

Now that I think of it, and keeping things topical, what about Cindersaur?

I think you might actually have nailed it, Sabrblade. I was thinking it could also be Universe Razorclaw, but he doesn't have the red. RID Megatron? Does.

Will, Cindersaur might have been done to give the Terrorcons a little buddy, and as an easy way to add another Legends-class Decepticon. If one factors Masterforce into account, he also works as a cartoon-colors Guzzle Sparkdash drone

Battle Core Optimus' scheme isn't that out there, it's like a less-monochrome version of Ultra Magnus' cab robot. What's out there is the eBay prices for CW Optimus... dear gods..

Speaking of Optimus, Evolution Optimus Prime is the least-appealing to me of the Leader-class molds in this line. He's oversize and takes away the value of having Optimus' original trailer IMO. I still plan to get him, but mainly for Orion Pax!

Well those CGI renders of PotP Inferno look nice. Pity the real thing won't be even close to that clean or shiny.

Let's see, how many Hot Spot remolds is this now? There's Onslaught (G1 and G2), Pyra Magna, UW Dolrailer and now this - missed any? I think the only other Voyager Combiner core that's been more duplicated is Silverbolt - and they're not done with HIM yet either (Hun-Grrr)...

Manterax Prime wrote:

Skritz wrote:Edit: I'd say my favorite 'wtf recolor' of Optimus in recent years has to be this guy:

Sure, I use him as Nova Prime but I have to admit that this is a very, very nice color scheme for Optimus Prime. It looks regal, almost holy.

He's my favorite to, for those same reason.
And the Star Convoy-esque head.

I like it just because it's NOT the usual Red and Blue. And because you can use him with other deluxes (Prowl, Jazz, Rook, Mirage, etc.) to make a white combiner - handy for camouflage in places like the arctic I guess...

DeathReviews wrote:Well those CGI renders of PotP Inferno look nice. Pity the real thing won't be even close to that clean or shiny.

Let's see, how many Hot Spot remolds is this now? There's Onslaught (G1 and G2), Pyra Magna, UW Dolrailer and now this - missed any?

Hasbro:
Combiner Wars Protectobot Hot Spot
Combiner Wars Onslaught
Combiner Wars Pyra Magna
Combiner Wars Generation 2 Onslaught
Combiner Wars Bludgeon
Power of the Primes Inferno

TakaraTomy:
Unite Warriors Hot Spot
Unite Warriors Onslaught
Unite Warriors Megaempress
Unite Warriors Dolrailer

DeathReviews wrote:I think the only other Voyager Combiner core that's been more duplicated is Silverbolt - and they're not done with HIM yet either (Hun-Grrr)...

The most recent (as of this typing) episode of the Seibertron.com Twincast Podcast has confirmed Hun-Gurrr to not be another use of the Silverbolt mold after all. It borrows some transformation ideas from Silverbolt, but is 100% its own unique mold.

Rated X wrote:Why so much? Four $15-20 figures and a $30 torso figure shouldnt be more than $110 wtf???? Better be G2 deco

Toywiz are notorious for price gouging.

DeathReviews, you forgot Bludgeon as far as altered versions of the mold go. And that's just major mold variants. If you count redecoes among the uses there's also been Megaempress and CW G2 Onslaught.

CW Silverbolt.. Altered versions of the mold would be Cyclonus, Hasbro Scattershot, Takara Scattershot, and Sky Lynx. Recolors add in G2 Silverbolt and UW Cyclonus if you count him separately.

Both of them are rivaling the original Combaticon molds as far as recolored releases go. Which considering that between G1 Bruticus, Battle Gaia, G2 Bruticus, Car Robots Baldigus, RiD Ruination, Urban Camo Ruination, and Desert Camo Ruination those have been done 7 times.. That's saying something.

Sabrblade wrote:It borrows some transformation ideas from Silverbolt, but is 100% its own unique mold.

Thats the same as these toys, which many fans do still consider retools.





Something having 100% different parts does not mean it was made from scratch. Quite the opposite, we now have confirmation that Hun Gurr is based on Silverbolt's engineering and can be considered a retool according to the toy industry (where a toy is either made from scratch or not).

Uh,no. From what I've read, according to the toy industry or at the very least HasTak retool has a stricter definition than what fans use; it only refers to permanent mold changes as opposed to alternate parts. Super Ginrai would seem to be a true retool by that definition, as would the RiD Commandos compared to the original G1 combaticons.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:It borrows some transformation ideas from Silverbolt, but is 100% its own unique mold.

Thats the same as these toys, which many fans do still consider retools.

Pics

Something having 100% different parts does not mean it was made from scratch. Quite the opposite, we now have confirmation that Hun Gurr is based on Silverbolt's engineering and can be considered a retool according to the toy industry (where a toy is either made from scratch or not).

And how are those cases different from the likes of G2 Smokescreen, Energon Starscream, 2010 Terradive, and FOC Starscream?