First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line
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We have known for a long time now that there would be a new Shockwave and Sideswipe coming to the Cyber Battalion line, a value oriented subline of the Generations line. However, we had never seen an image of them. Until now.
The Snakas Blog has posted images coming from Taiwan of these two brand new toys found in stores. While these are made for brand recognition/growth in BRICS countries, some toys have made it to the US as well, like last year's Prowl and Jetfire which were found at Wallgreens. It is unsure if these two will as well. Speaking of Prowl, it seems Windcharger Sideswipe shares the same engineering. Shockwave however is completely new and turns into a cybertronian spaceship very similar to RID's Cyclonus.
Previous toys in the subline have also been found at Universal Studios but at "exclusive-style" prices, so these might as well. For those unaware, these are voyager sized toys which sell at the deluxe class price point when found at retail. For a review on the previous Prowl release in this line, you can click here.
The Snakas Blog has posted images coming from Taiwan of these two brand new toys found in stores. While these are made for brand recognition/growth in BRICS countries, some toys have made it to the US as well, like last year's Prowl and Jetfire which were found at Wallgreens. It is unsure if these two will as well. Speaking of Prowl, it seems Windcharger Sideswipe shares the same engineering. Shockwave however is completely new and turns into a cybertronian spaceship very similar to RID's Cyclonus.
Previous toys in the subline have also been found at Universal Studios but at "exclusive-style" prices, so these might as well. For those unaware, these are voyager sized toys which sell at the deluxe class price point when found at retail. For a review on the previous Prowl release in this line, you can click here.
Credit(s): Snakas Blog
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Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943778)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 4th, 2018 @ 12:56pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on March 4th, 2018 @ 12:56pm CST
That Sideswipe would make for a half decent Overdrive.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943780)
Posted by ThunderThruster on March 4th, 2018 @ 1:02pm CST
Posted by ThunderThruster on March 4th, 2018 @ 1:02pm CST
I was actually thinking "why did they give Sideswipe, Windcharger's altmode?" But Now that you mention Overdrive, it does strike that chord rather well.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943792)
Posted by Evil Eye on March 4th, 2018 @ 1:53pm CST
Posted by Evil Eye on March 4th, 2018 @ 1:53pm CST
Shockwave looks better than he has any right to. Sideswipe has a nice car mode but that's about it.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943793)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 4th, 2018 @ 1:54pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 4th, 2018 @ 1:54pm CST
Can't wait to get my hands on these
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943803)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 4th, 2018 @ 2:22pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 4th, 2018 @ 2:22pm CST
That shockwave looks pretty good actually, a lot better than that sideswipe.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943804)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 4th, 2018 @ 2:24pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 4th, 2018 @ 2:24pm CST
Hi there Sixshot, trying on a Shockwave disguise? 
Pretty surprised Shockwave is all new (and that he needs a "Decepticon" prefix), Sideswipe looks ok. Shares some parts with Prowl, but the toes, lower arms, hood and top, and the head are new. I can't really determine the make of the front, could be totally made up.
Pretty surprised Shockwave is all new (and that he needs a "Decepticon" prefix), Sideswipe looks ok. Shares some parts with Prowl, but the toes, lower arms, hood and top, and the head are new. I can't really determine the make of the front, could be totally made up.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943806)
Posted by Acesmcgee on March 4th, 2018 @ 2:50pm CST
Posted by Acesmcgee on March 4th, 2018 @ 2:50pm CST
Sideswipe's alt mode kind of looks a mash-up of his RiD 2015 and classic self car wise.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943809)
Posted by MaverickPrime on March 4th, 2018 @ 3:14pm CST
Posted by MaverickPrime on March 4th, 2018 @ 3:14pm CST
Oh please, PLEASE tell me that Shockwave's knees rotate on a ball joint and not just a hinge, he looks so good that it'd be a shame if he lacked knee articulation
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943811)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 4th, 2018 @ 3:18pm CST
The instructions show the back including the inside of the knees, and from the looks of it, it's a mushroom peg type swivel.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 4th, 2018 @ 3:18pm CST
MaverickPrime wrote:Oh please, PLEASE tell me that Shockwave's knees rotate on a ball joint and not just a hinge, he looks so good that it'd be a shame if he lacked knee articulation
The instructions show the back including the inside of the knees, and from the looks of it, it's a mushroom peg type swivel.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943812)
Posted by Emerje on March 4th, 2018 @ 3:21pm CST
Posted by Emerje on March 4th, 2018 @ 3:21pm CST
How can Cyber Series Shockwave look miles better than the Cyberverse Shockwave, be a lot bigger, and cost only a little more, and yet be near impossible for any of us to buy? And what's going on with his head? In bot mode his head has ears, but not in alt mode. Does he have two heads just for the sake of an exposed head? (Looking closer all of the head details are different so he does have two heads, it's hard to tell what's happening in the instructions.) And will he have clear parts? His hand/gun, wing tips, and some other parts are slightly different shades of purple from the rest of him, but the CGI models don't look clear. Probably paint, but that's a lot of paint. Guess we'll know soon enough.
Maybe Walgreens will get them (wont hold my breath).
Emerje
Maybe Walgreens will get them (wont hold my breath).
Emerje
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943813)
Posted by Skritz on March 4th, 2018 @ 3:21pm CST
Posted by Skritz on March 4th, 2018 @ 3:21pm CST
I want that Shockwave! He's simple, clean and effective and Shockwave is one character I'm all on board for him being a simple and effective figure. Not to mention I don't have a Shockwave in my collection and his Voyager size would make him roughly in scale with my Megatron and Starscream.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943815)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 4th, 2018 @ 3:36pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on March 4th, 2018 @ 3:36pm CST
WOW! That is a damn fine lookin' Shockwave! This may be the first "Cyber Series" toy I bother to pick up. It looks like a nearly perfect fit for my Classics shelf. I can finally replace the rather undersized FoC Deluxe Shockwave filling that slot currently.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943817)
Posted by The Lonely Cracker on March 4th, 2018 @ 3:45pm CST
Posted by The Lonely Cracker on March 4th, 2018 @ 3:45pm CST
When I first heard there would be a cyber battalion shockwave, I was excited as hell. And hot damn, I love that thing. The spaceship is ok I guess, but that robot mode is absolutely perfect. And the ship is 3 times better than that spider tank thing the cyberverse figure has. A buy for sure if I can find him
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943824)
Posted by Ultra Markus on March 4th, 2018 @ 4:20pm CST
This line is known for not having knee joints but I want that shockwave
Posted by Ultra Markus on March 4th, 2018 @ 4:20pm CST
MaverickPrime wrote:Oh please, PLEASE tell me that Shockwave's knees rotate on a ball joint and not just a hinge, he looks so good that it'd be a shame if he lacked knee articulation
This line is known for not having knee joints but I want that shockwave
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943839)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 4th, 2018 @ 5:20pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 4th, 2018 @ 5:20pm CST
Shockwave and Sideswipe look GOOD! Sure, they may be brackish like the previous ones, but they are leagues better than the... shudder... "Authentic" line.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943851)
Posted by bacem on March 4th, 2018 @ 6:17pm CST
Posted by bacem on March 4th, 2018 @ 6:17pm CST
Liking both designs! I just hope that shockwave has a knee bend, considering cyber battalion tends to skip on that, unless it is needed for the transformation. And looking at the steps, it is not needed.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943864)
Posted by Jim Maximus on March 4th, 2018 @ 8:00pm CST
Posted by Jim Maximus on March 4th, 2018 @ 8:00pm CST
These look fun. I bought the Prowl and Jetfire from this line and liked both toys. My local Walgreens sold them. Looks like I’ll be making some trips there.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943876)
Posted by Flashwave on March 4th, 2018 @ 8:50pm CST
Posted by Flashwave on March 4th, 2018 @ 8:50pm CST
10 times better than Cyberverse.
I really like that Shockwave. The Sideswipe figure has the same alt mode as Generations Bumblebee right down to the raised edge of the Front Fenders.
I really like that Shockwave. The Sideswipe figure has the same alt mode as Generations Bumblebee right down to the raised edge of the Front Fenders.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943900)
Posted by william-james88 on March 4th, 2018 @ 10:20pm CST
While I dont think the Cyberverse is great, I dont think this is so much of an improvement. Both seem to lack in articulation, and this one more so. Probably no knees, no thigh swivel, and no universal joints, and hollow to the extreme (which has to be since they are stretching out the material to make a bigger toy). Are all you guys ok with this? I find it hard to believe when I keep seeing the same "happy meal toy" comment similarly simplistic toys are revealed.
Also, I think the alt mode looks terrible. I hate seeing those arms there hanging in the back and I have no clue why they would go out of their way to have a fake robot mode head visible in alt mode. That was dumb with the FOC toy but at least you could ignore it there. Here its harder to ignore.
I dont think either this nor the cyberverse is going to satisfy our Shockwave itch, but if I were to pick one, I might go for Cyberverse simply because the alt mode and articulation looks slightly better.
Posted by william-james88 on March 4th, 2018 @ 10:20pm CST
D R E W wrote:When I first heard there would be a cyber battalion shockwave, I was excited as hell. And hot damn, I love that thing. The spaceship is ok I guess, but that robot mode is absolutely perfect. And the ship is 3 times better than that spider tank thing the cyberverse figure has. A buy for sure if I can find him
Flashwave wrote:10 times better than Cyberverse.
While I dont think the Cyberverse is great, I dont think this is so much of an improvement. Both seem to lack in articulation, and this one more so. Probably no knees, no thigh swivel, and no universal joints, and hollow to the extreme (which has to be since they are stretching out the material to make a bigger toy). Are all you guys ok with this? I find it hard to believe when I keep seeing the same "happy meal toy" comment similarly simplistic toys are revealed.
Also, I think the alt mode looks terrible. I hate seeing those arms there hanging in the back and I have no clue why they would go out of their way to have a fake robot mode head visible in alt mode. That was dumb with the FOC toy but at least you could ignore it there. Here its harder to ignore.
I dont think either this nor the cyberverse is going to satisfy our Shockwave itch, but if I were to pick one, I might go for Cyberverse simply because the alt mode and articulation looks slightly better.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943918)
Posted by MaverickPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 12:16am CST
Oh, I know, that's why I'm practically begging, there's no reason for it to be just a mushroom peg, the balljoint would acomplish the exact same function AND provide a bending knee WITHOUT INCREASING PARTS COUNT.
Posted by MaverickPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 12:16am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:Oh please, PLEASE tell me that Shockwave's knees rotate on a ball joint and not just a hinge, he looks so good that it'd be a shame if he lacked knee articulation
The instructions show the back including the inside of the knees, and from the looks of it, it's a mushroom peg type swivel.
Oh, I know, that's why I'm practically begging, there's no reason for it to be just a mushroom peg, the balljoint would acomplish the exact same function AND provide a bending knee WITHOUT INCREASING PARTS COUNT.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943933)
Posted by Hotconvoy on March 5th, 2018 @ 4:36am CST
Posted by Hotconvoy on March 5th, 2018 @ 4:36am CST
So...i just realized that Cyber Battalion Shockwave's package art is the same as Combiner Wars Shockwave's!? Could this mean that Sideswipe's package art is unreleased Combiner Wars Sideswipe's package art? Or could it even be Power of the Primes Sideswipe's? I'm still holding out hope for CW/PotP Sideswipe 
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943934)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 5:05am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 5:05am CST
Hate to break it but unless it appears down the line as a may mayhem, I don't think you're getting a sideswipe. We know all the deluxes that we're getting in potp. Now if they retool his alt mode a tad to make it more cybertonain then you may get him in the next trilogy of toylines. If he does then you can point out that they reused this sideswipes artwork
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943938)
Posted by Big Grim on March 5th, 2018 @ 6:48am CST
Posted by Big Grim on March 5th, 2018 @ 6:48am CST
That Shockwave is gorgeous.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943939)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 6:54am CST
He is. No knees though.
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 6:54am CST
Big Grim wrote:That Shockwave is gorgeous.
He is. No knees though.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943940)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 7:02am CST
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 7:02am CST
Notrab on Weibo has posted an image of the robot mode for the new Shockwave toy we only saw yesterday for the first time. This is part of the Cyber Battalion line which is made up of bigger, simpler, and less expensve Transformer toys of recognizable characters. As you can see from the photo comparing it to the Masterpiece toy, this Shockwave is the same height as a Voyager. The image shows us that Hasbro chose a darker grape purple color. We also have a better sense of the articulation. Like with most other figures in this line aimed at young children, there is a lack of knees and bicep swivel. Is this a dealbreaker for any fan out there? For those hoping to pick him up, so far he has been found in Taiwan and previous toys in this line were found at Universal Studios and Walgreens in the US. If any fan finds more images of this toy on the internet, in either mode, please let us know.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943944)
Posted by Marcdachamp on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:02am CST
Posted by Marcdachamp on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:02am CST
Shockwave looks fantastic! That's a must buy, for me.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943945)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:03am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:03am CST
Oof, no knees.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943952)
Posted by Rated X on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:35am CST
Posted by Rated X on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:35am CST
Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943955)
Posted by Randomhero on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:42am CST
Posted by Randomhero on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:42am CST
No knees
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943957)
Posted by MaverickPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:55am CST
Posted by MaverickPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:55am CST
No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943958)
Posted by Randomhero on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:59am CST
Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.
Posted by Randomhero on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:59am CST
MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???
Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943960)
Posted by Big Grim on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:15am CST
I can forgive that, being what it is.
Posted by Big Grim on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:15am CST
william-james88 wrote:Big Grim wrote:That Shockwave is gorgeous.
He is. No knees though.
I can forgive that, being what it is.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943961)
Posted by Evil Eye on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:27am CST
Posted by Evil Eye on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:27am CST
There's something deeply unsettling yet amusing that one of the best looking CHUG scale Shockwaves in recent years is also a cheaply made brick intended for small children. Like, that sculpt is superb- it's almost wasted on that line. That said I would have adored him as a kid so mission accomplished I guess. The lack of knees is weird though, a balljoint would have made sense for that.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943962)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:28am CST
I am sure it is possible but then that raises one's full cost of the figure. You still lack the bicep swivel and it is still a relatively simple and hollow toy. So is it really worth putting extra money into it on our end? He looks good on a shelf wihout adding any work or money.
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:28am CST
Rated X wrote:Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.
I am sure it is possible but then that raises one's full cost of the figure. You still lack the bicep swivel and it is still a relatively simple and hollow toy. So is it really worth putting extra money into it on our end? He looks good on a shelf wihout adding any work or money.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943965)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:38am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:38am CST
They could always retool him slightly, upping the parts count and release him for wfc. Of course he'll be retailed for full voyager cost
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943966)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:38am CST
Posted by grimdragon2001 on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:38am CST
I'd love to see this guy with some CHUG figures, just see how he scales with them
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943968)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:42am CST
He is the exact same size as the jetfire in the image below so that should give you an idea:
And he would scale with TR Megatron similarly to how Starscream scales with him below:
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:42am CST
grimdragon2001 wrote:I'd love to see this guy with some CHUG figures, just see how he scales with them
He is the exact same size as the jetfire in the image below so that should give you an idea:
And he would scale with TR Megatron similarly to how Starscream scales with him below:
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943973)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:05am CST
Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:05am CST
Randomhero wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???
Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.
Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943980)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:30am CST
He's not justifying it, it's literally why hasbro made this line, the target audience is children, I imagine it would be a lead in from rescue bots toys, then going into either movie toys or other generations figures. It's not targeting collectors like us...not that it will stop the few of us who just want it for display purposes so find a knee joint not needed.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:30am CST
YoungPrime wrote:Randomhero wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???
Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.
Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.
He's not justifying it, it's literally why hasbro made this line, the target audience is children, I imagine it would be a lead in from rescue bots toys, then going into either movie toys or other generations figures. It's not targeting collectors like us...not that it will stop the few of us who just want it for display purposes so find a knee joint not needed.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943982)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:33am CST
Sadly they do this because they know that people will still buy it due to waiting for a quality Voyager class Generations Shockwave for years now.
But since there isn't one, Hasbro know's that they can continue milking this character. Here it is we've had a CW Legends class, a Cyberverse Shockwave pending and now this.....
And next I'm betting will be a Generations Leader class instead of a decent Voyager class Shockwave with legs that actually bend.
It's becoming the biggest downside to collecting.
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:33am CST
MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???
Sadly they do this because they know that people will still buy it due to waiting for a quality Voyager class Generations Shockwave for years now.
But since there isn't one, Hasbro know's that they can continue milking this character. Here it is we've had a CW Legends class, a Cyberverse Shockwave pending and now this.....
And next I'm betting will be a Generations Leader class instead of a decent Voyager class Shockwave with legs that actually bend.
It's becoming the biggest downside to collecting.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943985)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:39am CST
A temporary placeholder for $5 even $10 till Hasbro makes a real one? Sure.... But not $17 in irritating Walgreen toy sections. NOPE!
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:39am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:YoungPrime wrote:Randomhero wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???
Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.
Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.
He's not justifying it, it's literally why hasbro made this line, the target audience is children, I imagine it would be a lead in from rescue bots toys, then going into either movie toys or other generations figures. It's not targeting collectors like us...not that it will stop the few of us who just want it for display purposes so find a knee joint not needed.
A temporary placeholder for $5 even $10 till Hasbro makes a real one? Sure.... But not $17 in irritating Walgreen toy sections. NOPE!
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943987)
Posted by Rated X on March 5th, 2018 @ 11:02am CST
How much more could some shapeways knees cost? 10 bucks? Sure I could stand him on a shelf but why not have more? Its only money, you only live once. Ten bucks wont make or break me.
Posted by Rated X on March 5th, 2018 @ 11:02am CST
william-james88 wrote:Rated X wrote:Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.
I am sure it is possible but then that raises one's full cost of the figure. You still lack the bicep swivel and it is still a relatively simple and hollow toy. So is it really worth putting extra money into it on our end? He looks good on a shelf wihout adding any work or money.
How much more could some shapeways knees cost? 10 bucks? Sure I could stand him on a shelf but why not have more? Its only money, you only live once. Ten bucks wont make or break me.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1943996)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 11:40am CST
Then you don't have to get it
other people will and will have fun knowing the flaws.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 11:40am CST
YoungPrime wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:YoungPrime wrote:Randomhero wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???
Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.
Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.
He's not justifying it, it's literally why hasbro made this line, the target audience is children, I imagine it would be a lead in from rescue bots toys, then going into either movie toys or other generations figures. It's not targeting collectors like us...not that it will stop the few of us who just want it for display purposes so find a knee joint not needed.
A temporary placeholder for $5 even $10 till Hasbro makes a real one? Sure.... But not $17 in irritating Walgreen toy sections. NOPE!
Then you don't have to get it
other people will and will have fun knowing the flaws.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1944000)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 11:57am CST
We're not talking adding spoiler or new rims to a car here.
If you'd like to pay almost $30 for a cheap placeholder which will likely get a real Voyager or Leader class Shockwave soon after then so be it.
But for me.... Take Grimlock for example. When FOC Grimlock released, I bought it. Then the TRU gold version released with that Movie OP came out so I bought that to. Then that Iron factory upgrade release and I grab that and added to the TRU exclusive FOC Grimlock and it's been my Stand in Grimlock ever since. Meanwhile that POTP Grimlock is a stubby mess that I have no interest in combining. So I skipped it an only want the 4 deluxe Dinobots (well only Sludge and Snarl now) to go with Slash.
Point being is that I'm no longer buy just anything that Hasbro makes anymore. My Sig is proof of how happy I use to be with random Shockwave's in the past but for now on I'm no longer settling.
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 11:57am CST
Rated X wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rated X wrote:Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.
I am sure it is possible but then that raises one's full cost of the figure. You still lack the bicep swivel and it is still a relatively simple and hollow toy. So is it really worth putting extra money into it on our end? He looks good on a shelf wihout adding any work or money.
How much more could some shapeways knees cost? 10 bucks? Sure I could stand him on a shelf but why not have more? Its only money, you only live once. Ten bucks wont make or break me.
We're not talking adding spoiler or new rims to a car here.
If you'd like to pay almost $30 for a cheap placeholder which will likely get a real Voyager or Leader class Shockwave soon after then so be it.
But for me.... Take Grimlock for example. When FOC Grimlock released, I bought it. Then the TRU gold version released with that Movie OP came out so I bought that to. Then that Iron factory upgrade release and I grab that and added to the TRU exclusive FOC Grimlock and it's been my Stand in Grimlock ever since. Meanwhile that POTP Grimlock is a stubby mess that I have no interest in combining. So I skipped it an only want the 4 deluxe Dinobots (well only Sludge and Snarl now) to go with Slash.
Point being is that I'm no longer buy just anything that Hasbro makes anymore. My Sig is proof of how happy I use to be with random Shockwave's in the past but for now on I'm no longer settling.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1944004)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 12:29pm CST
Sure, but that still becomes an upscaled legends toy for 27$. Well look to each's own, I just dont feel adding knees (for 10$ no less) will make this figure that much better than before.
Though I do agree that elbows did make all the difference with Combiner Wars scrapper. I am glad to know you will be enjoying this toy to its fullest
I really dont think theres a cospircy theory. Especially when this particular toyline was never meant for either US distribution or a collector market.
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 12:29pm CST
Rated X wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rated X wrote:Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.
I am sure it is possible but then that raises one's full cost of the figure. You still lack the bicep swivel and it is still a relatively simple and hollow toy. So is it really worth putting extra money into it on our end? He looks good on a shelf wihout adding any work or money.
How much more could some shapeways knees cost? 10 bucks? Sure I could stand him on a shelf but why not have more? Its only money, you only live once. Ten bucks wont make or break me.
Sure, but that still becomes an upscaled legends toy for 27$. Well look to each's own, I just dont feel adding knees (for 10$ no less) will make this figure that much better than before.
Though I do agree that elbows did make all the difference with Combiner Wars scrapper. I am glad to know you will be enjoying this toy to its fullest
YoungPrime wrote:But since there isn't one, Hasbro know's that they can continue milking this character. Here it is we've had a CW Legends class, a Cyberverse Shockwave pending and now this.....
I really dont think theres a cospircy theory. Especially when this particular toyline was never meant for either US distribution or a collector market.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1944005)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 12:30pm CST
And who said I was stopping you....Buy 20 of'em.
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 12:30pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:YoungPrime wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:YoungPrime wrote:Randomhero wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???
Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.
Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.
He's not justifying it, it's literally why hasbro made this line, the target audience is children, I imagine it would be a lead in from rescue bots toys, then going into either movie toys or other generations figures. It's not targeting collectors like us...not that it will stop the few of us who just want it for display purposes so find a knee joint not needed.
A temporary placeholder for $5 even $10 till Hasbro makes a real one? Sure.... But not $17 in irritating Walgreen toy sections. NOPE!
Then you don't have to get it
And who said I was stopping you....Buy 20 of'em.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1944019)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CST
Why do you have to be so condescending about our opinions? You claim to not be but your attitude on the sites says otherwise.
Who the heck would buy 20 of these anyways there is no troop building potential in this people would only buy 1 or 2 at most.
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CST
YoungPrime wrote:And who said I was stopping you....Buy 20 of'em.
Why do you have to be so condescending about our opinions? You claim to not be but your attitude on the sites says otherwise.
Who the heck would buy 20 of these anyways there is no troop building potential in this people would only buy 1 or 2 at most.
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1944020)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CST
Oh I know but I guess my point was muddled. You complain about it but failed to see that we were never meant to get this. If any collector in the West buys it, it'll be a bonus.
Got to ask though, from what you said youngprime, what was the straw that broke the camels back for you regarding hasbro?
Got to ask though, from what you said youngprime, what was the straw that broke the camels back for you regarding hasbro?
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1944031)
Posted by kurthy on March 5th, 2018 @ 3:06pm CST
Posted by kurthy on March 5th, 2018 @ 3:06pm CST
I don't care about the lack of knees, I've got plenty of figures that have knees that are useless. In the end, it's a $17 figure that fills a much needed spot in my collection and doesn't look awful. I've got plenty of more expensive figures that I don't want to transform like alpha trion, broadside, T30 doubledealer, classics Ironhide,
Re: First Look at New Generations Shockwave and Sideswipe from Cyber Battalion Line (1944033)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 3:08pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 3:08pm CST
kurthy wrote:I don't care about the lack of knees, I've got plenty of figures that have knees that are useless. In the end, it's a $17 figure that fills a much needed spot in my collection and doesn't look awful. I've got plenty of more expensive figures that I don't want to transform like alpha trion, broadside, T30 doubledealer, classics Ironhide,
