Offcial Images and Amazon Listing for Takara Transformers Encore Beast Machines Optimus Primal

Primal ... err ... Beestoo Convoy! got a manicure. Painted fingernails and all.

Still even 14K yen is a bit steep, when the original one is still readily available for well under $100 from ebay.

That price is a bit steep. I'm glad I got the year of the monkey one for 40$.

Have to say... that Takara paint scheme looks significantly better. Must put some thought into this.

I will be getting this, but I'm kinda pissed about it.

I LOVE Beast Machines. And this figure looks as good as it's ever going to get. But DAMN that price, and the fact that this is NOT the mold I'd have chosen to get the premo treatment.

*sigh*

Interesting thought. I hadn't pictured the other sizes in a decent coloration. That first rando blue one never felt right.... but I wonder what it (or the others) would look like with a decent paint job.

Ok. Wow, just found a nicely painted custom of the medium sized one. That thing looks GREAT with a decent paint job. Original is in some WILD almost all yellow scheme. I'd somehow pushed that out of my mind.

sigh.

*patiently waits for a 3P to make decent BM toys*

shajaki wrote:I will be getting this, but I'm kinda pissed about it.

I LOVE Beast Machines. And this figure looks as good as it's ever going to get. But DAMN that price, and the fact that this is NOT the mold I'd have chosen to get the premo treatment.

*sigh*

The big deal breaker for me is that the I could not care less about the revamped electronics since it will strip away the Gary Chalk voice (hence why I never cared for the YOTM one either).

Another release I can save money on.

I kid ... I can't save money at all.

Burn wrote:Another release I can save money on.

I kid ... I can't save money at all.

Dohoho! I can relate...


Still, if one DO have the cash to burn, that "reissue" is very well worth it. With that VERY NICE deco and the new sound, I consider this as a premium "Botcon" or "Collector Club" exclusive repaint. So of course it have the price tag to match.

Also, Shajaki, you tsundere...

so nearly the price of a titan class transformer, yet no where near as fun or worth the price. yeah how about no. this is not worth the money, and should always have been well under $100

shajaki wrote:*patiently waits for a 3P to make decent BM toys*

you'll probably be waiting a long, LONG time then. no 3p company has made an actual animal-like figure, ony a few robot-y looking ones from beast wars. heck, if animated hasn't gotten more than, like, 2 3rd party toys being a fan-favorite, then there's not really a chance for beast machines to get any love either.

shajaki wrote:I will be getting this, but I'm kinda pissed about it.

I LOVE Beast Machines. And this figure looks as good as it's ever going to get. But DAMN that price, and the fact that this is NOT the mold I'd have chosen to get the premo treatment.

*sigh*

It's posts like this that make me wish this site had a Like button feature.

Thanks Sabr

Who likes pics?!

After the initial post for the revived Transformers Encore line from Takara Tomy, we have a couple of updates courtesy of the official Takara Tomy product website for the toy here, and Dengeki Hobby website's coverage of the Tokyo Toy Show 2018, here.

Along with the original images we covered with the reveal, Takara Tomy has also put up the promotional banner for the big bossbot of the Maximals, in his Beast Machines form, and three of the voice clips he will come with in final product - which you can listen to here - starting, in Japanese: '(To) all good children, it's Convoy!', 'Good! If you want to survive...' and 'Okay! Today is rap!...' - or something to that effect. If you're good at transcribing Japanese audio, do let us know!



The other update comes from Tokyo Toy Show 2018, as we have some of the display images from the Takara booth on the floor, mirrored below alongside the other Convoys from across the 35 years of the character. Take a look, and let us know what you think!

The first voice clip is a sort of introductory clip.

The second says something about the Oracle.

And the third... sounds a lot like all the "Yvonco" chanting that Rattrap and others did during the opening sequence of episode 14 (season 2, episode 1) in its Japanese dub.

It looks great, but sadly I can't afford it as usual. I also much prefer Hasbro's Platinum version. I don't know why, but that Primal in Prime colors looks perfect to me

Nathaniel Prime wrote:It looks great, but sadly I can't afford it as usual. I also much prefer Hasbro's Platinum version. I don't know why, but that Primal in Prime colors looks perfect to me

I also have it and I LOVE it. Plus you can get it for very cheap if you know where to look.

If this were a cartoon accurate mold I'd be all over this, but it isn't so I can't really justify buying this figure again just for more paint details.

Emerje

I get that he is speaking in Japanese and the original did not. The redeco is nice, but it is so slight that you wouldn't notice unless you compare it to the old version. Not worth the cash.

Now if they took Blast Punch Optimus Primal and gave him an accurate color scheme, lots of people would be happy. Especially since he would be more in scale with the other BM toys. They could charge $50 and plenty of people across the world would buy that. They could probably even charge $70 and still get money from a good amount of people.

What the guy above said.

The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

What the guy above said.

The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.

It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

What the guy above said.

The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.

It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor.

The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette!

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

What the guy above said.

The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.

It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor.

The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette!

Including our illustrious Site Owner?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

What the guy above said.

The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.

It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor.

The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette!

Now that's something you don't hear every day...

Seeing those pictures though makes me wonder what hasbro were thinking when doing the beast machines line or if they had research to prove toys like that would sell.

ZeroWolf wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

What the guy above said.

The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.

It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor.

The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette!

Now that's something you don't hear every day...

Seeing those pictures though makes me wonder what hasbro were thinking when doing the beast machines line or if they had research to prove toys like that would sell.

At the time, Hasbro has based the designs for the initinal toys of the show characters off of preliminary concept artwork done by Draxhall Jump, which differed from the finalized CG models done by Mainframe. Towards the end of the line, in the Battle for the Spark subline, more show-accurate molds began to crop up in the line, but which still didn't quite match the rather toy-transformation-unfriendly CG models.

It was a time when Hasbro and Mainframe simply weren't as much on the same page as they had been with Beast Wars since, unlike Beast Wars having had its toys designed before the cartoon models were, the Beast Machines cartoon designs and toy designs were made more independently of each other.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

What the guy above said.

The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.

It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor.

The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette!

Now that's something you don't hear every day...

Seeing those pictures though makes me wonder what hasbro were thinking when doing the beast machines line or if they had research to prove toys like that would sell.

At the time, Hasbro has based the designs for the initinal toys of the show characters off of preliminary concept artwork done by Draxhall Jump, which differed from the finalized CG models done by Mainframe. Towards the end of the line, in the Battle for the Spark subline, more show-accurate molds began to crop up in the line, but which still didn't quite match the rather toy-transformation-unfriendly CG models.

It was a time when Hasbro and Mainframe simply weren't as much on the same page as they had been with Beast Wars since, unlike Beast Wars having had its toys designed before the cartoon models were, the Beast Machines cartoon designs and toy designs were made more independently of each other.

It's really Hasbro's fault. They told Mainframe to split their season 4 budget to also make an Action Man cartoon forcing Mainframe to start Beast Wars over as Beast Machines with easier to animate CG, transformation trickery, and very few textures. If Mainframe had their entire budget they might have been able to do something closer to the Draxhall Jump designs, for better or worse.

And yes, I would buy Blast Punch Primal in show colors in a heartbeat. Unfortunately the new Encore line seems to be designed to use existing molds as a substitute for MPs that will never happen so bigger is better. I'm sure we'll be getting a Cybertron/Galaxy Force Optimus Prime announcement sooner or later.

Emerje

You know what would really sell me on a proper re-release of Air Attack Optimus Primal? If he actually came in Beast Machines or Beast Wars Returns packaging in a similar style to how he had been done previously. Heck, split the production run in half and do both package styles, or do a flipped box with one side having one package style with a window, and the flip side of the package having product imagery but in the style of the other product line. Now that could be really cool.

Seibertron wrote:You know what would really sell me on a proper re-release of Air Attack Optimus Primal? If he actually came in Beast Machines or Beast Wars Returns packaging in a similar style to how he had been done previously. Heck, split the production run in half and do both package styles, or do a flipped box with one side having one package style with a window, and the flip side of the package having product imagery but in the style of the other product line. Now that could be really cool.

Knowing the Encore line's penchant for using vintage packaging styles, it more than most likely will be using Beast Wars Returns-styled packaging, especially since this toy's name is "Returns Convoy".

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:You know what would really sell me on a proper re-release of Air Attack Optimus Primal? If he actually came in Beast Machines or Beast Wars Returns packaging in a similar style to how he had been done previously. Heck, split the production run in half and do both package styles, or do a flipped box with one side having one package style with a window, and the flip side of the package having product imagery but in the style of the other product line. Now that could be really cool.

Knowing the Encore line's penchant for using vintage packaging styles, it more than most likely will be using Beast Wars Returns-styled packaging, especially since this toy's name is "Returns Convoy".

It is an interesting point, since this figure was never actually released by TT (right?). We could end up with something original

shajaki wrote:It is an interesting point, since this figure was never actually released by TT (right?).

Yes and no. Its the same scenario as Masterpiece Acid Storm. Released by Takara but the same as Hasbro version in the same box.

shajaki wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:You know what would really sell me on a proper re-release of Air Attack Optimus Primal? If he actually came in Beast Machines or Beast Wars Returns packaging in a similar style to how he had been done previously. Heck, split the production run in half and do both package styles, or do a flipped box with one side having one package style with a window, and the flip side of the package having product imagery but in the style of the other product line. Now that could be really cool.

Knowing the Encore line's penchant for using vintage packaging styles, it more than most likely will be using Beast Wars Returns-styled packaging, especially since this toy's name is "Returns Convoy".

It is an interesting point, since this figure was never actually released by TT (right?). We could end up with something original

Sky Lynx and Omega Supreme were likewise never released by Takara prior to their Encore releases, so they have set a precedent for Returns Convoy to get vintage Takara BWR packaging like they got vintage Takara G1 packaging.

I didn't know that. Neat

I'll be really pleased if he gets a box in the BWR style.

Relevant or not but take a look at this. As of June 10,2018

No likes!Even after a week!

News about this encore release has been thin on the ground but we're pleased to bring you news of a Video Review! The review was done by YouTube user, Stalker,and was passed on to us courtesy of fellow Seibertron user, What's Crackin'?

While the review itself is non-English, it does show the differences this redeco has to the original and its sound phrases. We have embedded the video below for your convenience.



Does this review change your mind about this figure? What would you like to see as an Encore release next? More show accurate redecos? Or more items like the forthcoming Unicron of Light? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

Beast Wars Returns style packaging! Called it!

And goofy new voice clips in reflection of the Beast Wars Returns Japanese dub, in particular referencing the goofy chanting that was spoken over the theme song in Episode 14.

His eyes aren't blue?