New Video Review of Netflix Transformers War for Cybertron Wave 3 Deluxe Class Deep Cover

Sometimes they absolutely kill it on these, like with the Bumblebee, Soundwave and Optimus Prime Netflix releases, sometimes they crap out stuff like this.

I think when fans look back at this line years later, the overall consensus will be that Wave 2 of the Netflix series was by far the best (In that it offered 3 unique and highly desired retools, and arguably the best Spoiler Box). Then Wave 1, then a pretty steep drop to finally Wave 3.

o.supreme wrote:I think when fans look back at this line years later, the overall consensus will be that Wave 2 of the Netflix series was by far the best (In that it offered 3 unique and highly desired retools, and arguably the best Spoiler Box). Then Wave 1, then a pretty steep drop to finally Wave 3.

And that's mainly thanks to Covid forcing what were supposed to be three normal Earthrise figures into this line.

Makes one wonder what Hasbro might have offered in Wave 2 in place of those three had the pandemic not happened.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I think when fans look back at this line years later, the overall consensus will be that Wave 2 of the Netflix series was by far the best (In that it offered 3 unique and highly desired retools, and arguably the best Spoiler Box). Then Wave 1, then a pretty steep drop to finally Wave 3.

And that's mainly thanks to Covid forcing what were supposed to be three normal Earthrise figures into this line.

Makes one wonder what Hasbro might have offered in Wave 2 in place of those three had the pandemic not happened.

Dirty versions Though in the case of Elita-1, maybe a dirty version of Arcee.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I think when fans look back at this line years later, the overall consensus will be that Wave 2 of the Netflix series was by far the best (In that it offered 3 unique and highly desired retools, and arguably the best Spoiler Box). Then Wave 1, then a pretty steep drop to finally Wave 3.

And that's mainly thanks to Covid forcing what were supposed to be three normal Earthrise figures into this line.

Makes one wonder what Hasbro might have offered in Wave 2 in place of those three had the pandemic not happened.

Three?

Bumblebee and Soundwave, sure. Who's the tbird?

sol magnus wrote:Bumblebee and Soundwave, sure. Who's the third?

Elita-1

o.supreme wrote:

sol magnus wrote:Bumblebee and Soundwave, sure. Who's the third?

Elita-1

Oh, she was just going to be a retool in the main line? Did not know that.

sol magnus wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

sol magnus wrote:Bumblebee and Soundwave, sure. Who's the third?

Elita-1

Oh, she was just going to be a retool in the main line? Did not know that.

She's a pretool of ER Arcee, and by rule of thumb, Netflix is all redecos. That's where the theory of releases being shuffled comes from.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

sol magnus wrote:Bumblebee and Soundwave, sure. Who's the third?

Elita-1

Oh, she was just going to be a retool in the main line? Did not know that.

She's a pretool of ER Arcee, and by rule of thumb, Netflix is all redecos. That's where the theory of releases being shuffled comes from.

It does make a certain amount of sense.

o.supreme wrote:I think when fans look back at this line years later, the overall consensus will be that Wave 2 of the Netflix series was by far the best (In that it offered 3 unique and highly desired retools, and arguably the best Spoiler Box). Then Wave 1, then a pretty steep drop to finally Wave 3.

That'll probably be the majority opinion, but for me personally, the only point of this line has been obscure Decepticon repaints/generics and the Cheetor with better coloration, Wave 2 was the only wave that actually had nothing I wanted (although if I didn't already have PotP Nemesis, the Spoiler Pack would have been sorely tempting).

Sabrblade wrote:And that's mainly thanks to Covid forcing what were supposed to be three normal Earthrise figures into this line.

If I'm remembering right, I think one of the leakers said that more specifically, Bee and Soundwave were supposed to be mainline figures that got moved to Netflix because there weren't enough mainline spots and their amounts of retooling meant they wouldn't fit in Selects, while Elita was a Selects release that got moved to Netflix, but obviously we don't have specific proof of that being 100% accurate.

Nemesis Primal wrote:while Elita was a Selects release that got moved to Netflix.

That makes more sense to me, seeing as how her lack of animation accuracy is more similar to Selects figures than the mainline ones.

It was said that Bee was bumped from the main line because VW took too long to give their approval.

Emerje

Ok, so I have a question for the few of you who have Bee and Cliffjumper:
One of the things that kept me from picking up Cliffy is the fact his feet are so big and clompy! I know its weird but it hampers the enjoyment non the less. So the question is, how clompy are the VW feet on Bee? A little more minimal, more streamlined bc of the curves?
The only reason i ask is because on the off chance he pops up in stores it might be fun to pick him. My collection has 0 Bumblebees, especially a G1 styled version. And if Bee tickles my fancy enough might pick up the other mini-bots, Huffer and Warpath, to complete a little team trio. But honestly right now Warpath is being held up by the same feet issue and Huffer because .. well hes whole front end just turns into a hoodie (sigh) It sure is fun being a manic toy collector

M. Spector wrote:Ok, so I have a question for the few of you who have Bee and Cliffjumper:
One of the things that kept me from picking up Cliffy is the fact his feet are so big and clompy! I know its weird but it hampers the enjoyment non the less. So the question is, how clompy are the VW feet on Bee? A little more minimal, more streamlined bc of the curves?
The only reason i ask is because on the off chance he pops up in stores it might be fun to pick him. My collection has 0 Bumblebees, especially a G1 styled version. And if Bee tickles my fancy enough might pick up the other mini-bots, Huffer and Warpath, to complete a little team trio. But honestly right now Warpath is being held up by the same feet issue and Huffer because .. well hes whole front end just turns into a hoodie (sigh) It sure is fun being a manic toy collector

I haven’t been lucky enough to find Bee. I do have Cliffjumper.
But if you ever see Bee, of course you should get him. I have Classics Bee & still wanted this NF version.
And his feet are a bit smaller than Cliffjumper’s.
I’ve given up hope for any NF figures from previously released waves... Haven’t seen anything in weeks.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I’ve given up hope for any NF figures from previously released waves... Haven’t seen anything in weeks.

Which ones are you looking for?

Found some Wave 3 Deluxes with a couple of Wave 2 Voyagers.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I’ve given up hope for any NF figures from previously released waves... Haven’t seen anything in weeks.

Which ones are you looking for?

I’m only wanting Bee at this point.
I was lucky enough to find Soundwave, & have OP shipped.
I’m pretty sure the next NF figures I find will be the new ones; sparkless & Deep Cover.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I’ve given up hope for any NF figures from previously released waves... Haven’t seen anything in weeks.

Which ones are you looking for?

I’m only wanting Bee at this point.
I was lucky enough to find Soundwave, & have OP shipped.
I’m pretty sure the next NF figures I find will be the new ones; sparkless & Deep Cover.

If I run across him I'll let you know and if you want you can get him for cost plus shipping.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I’ve given up hope for any NF figures from previously released waves... Haven’t seen anything in weeks.

Which ones are you looking for?

I’m only wanting Bee at this point.
I was lucky enough to find Soundwave, & have OP shipped.
I’m pretty sure the next NF figures I find will be the new ones; sparkless & Deep Cover.

If I run across him I'll let you know and if you want you can get him for cost plus shipping.

I would appreciate that more than I can say!!!

So the name of The Purple Paleotrex has been revealed, and it is Amazing




Let the MOTU Jokes Commence!

This is the exact same Megatron that was last released in the Netflix line down to the exact same paint. Only difference is the paint on the chest plate. Still look totally bad-ass. A must for those who missed out on the last Netflix Megs.

Plus that Skelivore look nice too. I think that's a set with great value.

-Kanrabat- wrote:This is the exact same Megatron that was last released in the Netflix line down to the exact same paint. Only difference is the paint on the chest plate. Still look totally bad-ass. A must for those who missed out on the last Netflix Megs.

Plus that Skelivore look nice too. I think that's a set with great value.

It's making me regret buying the first one, because I'd really like to have that Skeletor

Autobot N wrote:It's making me regret buying the first one, because I'd really like to have that Skeletor

You can always buy this set then sell or trade your previous one.

That is probably what I'll end up doing.

I only ended up getting the first Netflix Megatron with the Battle Masters, passing on the Siege, 35th Anniversary, Selects Combat, Earthrise (never saw it anyway), and the Selects G2 versions, so this will be easier for me to double-dip on, even if it is still pretty close to the one I already have.

So... he eats skeletons as a skeleton? Wouldn't that make him a cannibal?

If nothing else, I'm gonna borrow someone else's headcanon and treat Skelivore as the leader of the Fossilizers.

All of them are Predacons, and he's packed with the Decepticon's leader, so it works as a bad guy leader two-pack.

M. Spector wrote:Ok, so I have a question for the few of you who have Bee and Cliffjumper:
One of the things that kept me from picking up Cliffy is the fact his feet are so big and clompy! I know its weird but it hampers the enjoyment non the less. So the question is, how clompy are the VW feet on Bee? A little more minimal, more streamlined bc of the curves?
The only reason i ask is because on the off chance he pops up in stores it might be fun to pick him. My collection has 0 Bumblebees, especially a G1 styled version. And if Bee tickles my fancy enough might pick up the other mini-bots, Huffer and Warpath, to complete a little team trio. But honestly right now Warpath is being held up by the same feet issue and Huffer because .. well hes whole front end just turns into a hoodie (sigh) It sure is fun being a manic toy collector

You had perfect timing with your question, I just pulled out my entire WCF collection for some group shots. Out of Cliffjumper, Bee and Warpath, Cliff does have the clompiest feet going on. Bee's are slightly smaller and more streamlined as you mentioned. Warpath had the biggest feet by far, but is somewhat helped by his shins also being pretty large. Here are some foot fetish photos of all 3.

From the front


And the side


Now let's do the hokey pokey. You put your left foot in, you put your left foot out. You put your left foot in and shake it all about.



Do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around, that what its all about!



(Yes that was just a lame assed way of getting to the back photo.)

Well, after a couple of weeks of unsuccessful hunting, a friend found Soundwave for me. He's just got to send him to me. It shouldn't be this hard to find a figure.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Well, after a couple of weeks of unsuccessful hunting, a friend found Soundwave for me. He's just got to send him to me. It shouldn't be this hard to find a figure.

Congrats on that! I was able to get one from Hasbro Pulse a few weeks ago, in the short time it was in stock. Was it worth the wait for you?

I don’t know. I don’t have it yet, but I think it will be.

I think at this point I'd have better luck finding Elvis at my Walmarts than finding a Netflix Soundwave.

Sabrblade wrote:I think at this point I'd have better luck finding Elvis at my Walmarts than finding a Netflix Soundwave.

I know! The only time I came close was finding one Prime. The Soundwave was long gone.

"Elvis has left the building..."

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

M. Spector wrote:Ok, so I have a question for the few of you who have Bee and Cliffjumper:
One of the things that kept me from picking up Cliffy is the fact his feet are so big and clompy! I know its weird but it hampers the enjoyment non the less. So the question is, how clompy are the VW feet on Bee? A little more minimal, more streamlined bc of the curves?
The only reason i ask is because on the off chance he pops up in stores it might be fun to pick him. My collection has 0 Bumblebees, especially a G1 styled version. And if Bee tickles my fancy enough might pick up the other mini-bots, Huffer and Warpath, to complete a little team trio. But honestly right now Warpath is being held up by the same feet issue and Huffer because .. well hes whole front end just turns into a hoodie (sigh) It sure is fun being a manic toy collector

You had perfect timing with your question, I just pulled out my entire WCF collection for some group shots. Out of Cliffjumper, Bee and Warpath, Cliff does have the clompiest feet going on. Bee's are slightly smaller and more streamlined as you mentioned. Warpath had the biggest feet by far, but is somewhat helped by his shins also being pretty large. Here are some foot fetish photos of all 3.

(snip)

(Yes that was just a lame assed way of getting to the back photo.)

Well I appreciate the reply and the thoughts! They do all look pretty good together. Relevant to this and the current discussion, I've seen all of wave 1 in stores, all of wave 2 except soundwave and so far none of wave 3. Which is a bummer because that shiny Cheetor is calling muh name, guess you can add Bee to that list if he pops again

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I don’t know. I don’t have it yet, but I think it will be.

Lol, I should have read your original post a little more closely. I hope you like it when you get it. I'm quite happy with mine. The transformation is a lot more intuitive with fewer steps, as compared to the Siege version of Soundwave. It's essentially the old G1 conversion process with a few more steps to clean things up and give us a figure with better proportions overall.

When the voyagers for wave 3 of the Netflix Transformers line were first shown, lot of fans (including myself) were wondering what was so different with the Optimus Primal / Rattrap release. Well, now that we have some comparison images we can see all the differences. The colours on Primal and Rattrap are a lot more vibrant and full. You'll let us know what you think. These images come from the Blacklai Toybase blog. There is a gallery for Primal and a gallery for the Sparkless Seeker. We now get a really good look at his targetmasters.

Here are the links to the sources

Optimus Primal: https://blacklai1979.blogspot.com/2021/ ... p.html?m=1

Seeker: https://blacklai1979.blogspot.com/2021/ ... r.html?m=1

Man, I really hate what they did with Skyquake's face (I don't remember that being in the previous images). Almost ruins the whole figure for me.

I actually like the face
They gave him like a joker scar

Eh, I already have Kingdom Primal and Rattrap and honestly the redeco isn’t really striking enough for me to double-dip.

So Primal is slightly darker, but with some white on his robo chest where the original had blue. Meh, I'm fine with my purchase of the original.

What's up with that seeker's mouth? Is that intentional, since he's a "zombie"?

Autobot N wrote:Man, I really hate what they did with Skyquake's face (I don't remember that being in the previous images). Almost ruins the whole figure for me.

I had to go back and look at what you meant since I missed it the first time. Quite clever since technically this bot is dead in the cartoon.

Anyone headcannoning him into some one else can pretend it's a battle scar

Greetings Seibertronians! With Wave 3 of the Netflix Transformers War for Cybertron line now trickling out to stores across the world, fellow Seibertron user, and YouTube toy reviewer, PrimeVsPrime, has uploaded an unboxing, and video review of the 3rd, and potentially last, Spoiler Pack.

Inside Spoiler Pack #3 you'll find a redeco of Siege Megatron (largely looking unchanged from the Voyager set released as part of Wave 1 of this line last year) and a translucent purple Fossilizer Paleotrex redeco (called Skelivore). Accessories wise, you get a Matrix and four straps so Megatron can wear it, and a small D20 looking AllSpark.

You also get some black playdoh like the first set.

There's also text within the box that hints at spoilers within the third part of the Netflix Transformers War for Cybertron cartoon.

We have embedded PrimeVsPrime video below for you to watch and enjoy:



Special thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Dominus Prime for sending this through to us.

What do you think of this review? Do you just want Skelivore? Or are you after the whole package?

Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

Eeyup, the Netflix ones are definitely the ones for me.

Never found normal Kingdom Primal, and I've yet to pick up either Cheetor or Rattrap, so I won't have to worry about double-dipping.

Sabrblade wrote:


Eeyup, the Netflix ones are definitely the ones for me.

Never found normal Kingdom Primal, and I've yet to pick up either Cheetor or Rattrap, so I won't have to worry about double-dipping.

Nice comparison shots! Cheetor is the only Netflix release I'll be picking up, though. Rattrap's Kingdom release colors look better to me. The Netflix one is missing his teeth and gives him a cocaine nose to boot. The fur also looks too dark, and all the silver paint apps are also too dark, being more gunmetal instead. With Optimus Primal, it's another give and take situation, like with the alternations to Cheetor's deco between Kingdom and Netflix, i.e., the metallic blue and deeper yellow look better on the Netflix version, but it's missing the paint apps on his legs. For Optimus Primal, the Netflix version gives him gray feet in robot mode, and some nice fine paintwork on the hands, but it gets the robot mode chest color wrong, turning the Kingdom light blue to white. The slightly different shades of blue, white, and red aren't of much consequence, but I much prefer the pure white of the Kingdom version to the off white of the Netflix version. The Kingdom version's red and blue also look brighter to my eyes. Strangely enough, the colors on Optimus Primal's beast mode chest don't match on the Netflix version! You can see that the outsides of his pectorals are a completely different color of gray compared to the hands and face. There's a slight difference too with the Kingdom version, but the contrast is much more subtle. For me, Kingdom has the better Optimus Primal and Rattrap, but neither release gets everything "right." I hope we get another shot at these molds in a few years with some "premium" show-accurate paint jobs.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Nice comparison shots!

They're not mine.

Wolfman Jake wrote:and gives him a cocaine nose to boot.

Not in the Blacklai pics it doesn't. Go back a page to the news post.

Wolfman Jake wrote:but it's missing the paint apps on his legs.

For better cheetah mode legs.
For Optimus Primal, the Netflix version gives him gray feet in robot mode, and some nice fine paintwork on the hands, but it gets the robot mode chest color wrong, turning the Kingdom light blue to white.[/quote]Gray, you mean. Like the cartoon:




And the Beast Wars Reborn/Beast Wars 10th Anniversary toy:



And the Beast Wars Telemocha Series toy:



Ryan doesn't have a gallery of the MP yet.

The changes are some of the most minimal I've ever seen. This will be one of those releases, many years from now, that only the most hardcore of fans will be able to notice the difference. 99% of people won't. I'm still saddened that Primal didn't come with 2 Battle Masters, it would have been a nice excuse to get it, but alas, my collection will have none. Neither the Kingdom Primal or this Netflix Voyager offer anything I need for my collection.

Shitstorm look absolutely GLORIOUS!
I'm looking forward to have him.

I think I like Netflix Primal slightly more, but not enough seek him out over the regular deco. I definitely prefer the normal Rattrap though, the Netflix one looks too dark, and the unchanged orange clashes with the darker gray.

Autobot N wrote:Man, I really hate what they did with Skyquake's face (I don't remember that being in the previous images). Almost ruins the whole figure for me.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure those lines one the side of the mouth are sculpted into both facesculpts. How prominent they appear can vary from copy to copy depending on how well the face is painted. Sometimes it's super obvious like this, or sometimes it's not even noticeable, like on my copy of Thundercracker.

So basically, if you find him in store you'll probably be able to pick one with better face paint. It's what I did with TC and Hotlink.

Wolfman Jake wrote: I hope we get another shot at these molds in a few years with some "premium" show-accurate paint jobs.

Yeah, like having those hip ball joints be red instead of blue. That would have really helped this Netflix release.

Sabrblade wrote:Gray, you mean. Like the cartoon:

That makes it really dissapointing that the Netflix version chooses not to highlight the abdominal outline then. Also, I am 100% certain that there was a mixup/mistake where Hasbro inverted the colour codes for that chest circle when they sent in the paint specifications to the vietnamese factory. And it was too minor to warrant halting production.

o.supreme wrote:The changes are some of the most minimal I've ever seen. This will be one of those releases, many years from now, that only the most hardcore of fans will be able to notice the difference. 99% of people won't. I'm still saddened that Primal didn't come with 2 Battle Masters, it would have been a nice excuse to get it, but alas, my collection will have none. Neither the Kingdom Primal or this Netflix Voyager offer anything I need for my collection.

I really don't think this particular release was made for anyone who already had these toys. Pretty sure it's just to make sure these characters are on shelves when the Netflix show is released. Hence why the deco differences are minor.

Sabrblade wrote:Gray, you mean. Like the cartoon:

Pretty sure it's blue, but reflective, so it looks lighter in bright settings (both of your pics have light shining directly on it).





In any case, it's definitely darker than the Netflix toy. That looks silver or white.