New Takara Transformers Legends Listings for Fall 2016, LG Brainstorm Confirmed
Wednesday, July 6th, 2016 8:36AM CDT
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LG35 - Super Ginrai(November,2016, 8,500 JPY)
LG36 - Soundwave (November,2016, 8,000 JPY)
LG37 - Jaguar (Ravage) & Bullhorn (November,2016, 1,800 JPY)
LG38 - Condor (Laserbeak) & Apeface (November,2016, 1,800 JPY)
LG39 - Brainstorm (November,2016, 4,000 JPY)
LG40 - Astrotrain (November,2016, 5,000 JPY)[/quote]
Here is a picture of these listings with silhouettes:
The biggest takeaway from these is that Takara will be releasing Brainstorm as a standard wide release, unlike the Hasbro counterpart which is a Wallgreens exclusive. However, the toy will be coming with a target master/titan master vehicle, adding to its price. Also, Takara seems to be skipping Sentinel Prime and going straight to Astrotrain, which is understandable since Sentinel Prime offers no difference in tooling.
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Posted by Randomhero on July 6th, 2016 @ 8:39am CDT
Posted by Kurona on July 6th, 2016 @ 9:15am CDT
Hasbro I get, but Takara has a freed up price range so isn't restricted by how much plastic they can put in the box - hence why they partnered the titan master vehicles with the deluxes. Hmmm.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 6th, 2016 @ 9:24am CDT
Interested in seeing how they do Laserbeak. Hasbro's doesn't have enough red, IMO. Interested in seeing how different Astrotrain might be, too.
Ginrai's a given. Glad I didn't dip for PMOP just yet!
Posted by Randomhero on July 6th, 2016 @ 9:28am CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Depending on if Hasbro Brainstorm proves to be a massive asshole when it comes to finding him, I may have to go Takara with this one... *sigh*
Interested in seeing how they do Laserbeak. Hasbro's doesn't have enough red, IMO. Interested in seeing how different Astrotrain might be, too.
Ginrai's a given. Glad I didn't dip for PMOP just yet!
Probably won't be too hard. It's a Walgreens exclusive so it may shelfwarm there. I found the Walgreen exclusive Agent venom from marvel legends pretty easily. I heard it was an exclusive drove to the nearest one and there it was.
Posted by william-james88 on July 6th, 2016 @ 9:40am CDT
Randomhero wrote:Yup. Figured they'd skip Sentinel. Funny we we're just discussing this yesterday and there's the news. I had complete faith they'd do Soundwave. Retool or not it's Soundwave. They're not passing that up and next year they'll have Soundblaster
I was pretty sure they would do soundwave because it has new tooling, unlike Sentinel which doesnt have any. Takara tries to release all the new tooling on their end, but they dont seem fond of redecos. Hence why I am not certain they will release getaway. The reason I was iffy on Brainstorm was not because he was a retool but because they already had a Brainstorm in the Legends line and they seemed to be following the Hasbro schedule, which is no longer the case.
This is new though. In the 2000s, when they didnt release a deco themselves, they would just distribute the Hasbro version in Japan as a US edition. They stopped doing that recently for redecos.
Posted by Prowl4 on July 6th, 2016 @ 10:52am CDT
Posted by Kurona on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:07am CDT
Prowl4 wrote:Looks like astrotrain still has his head on in shuttle mode from the image. Interesting.
Where do you see it?
Posted by Prowl4 on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:09am CDT
Kurona wrote:Prowl4 wrote:Looks like astrotrain still has his head on in shuttle mode from the image. Interesting.
Where do you see it?
Shuttle mode right at the back where the head would be in robot mode it looks to be there in shuttle mode.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:12am CDT
Prowl4 wrote:Looks like astrotrain still has his head on in shuttle mode from the image. Interesting.
I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you, legends galvatron was still a headmaster after all.
Anyway, bring on the full reveal of super ginrai! The teasers weren't enough, I need to see what they've done for my favourite godmaster
Posted by Kurona on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:13am CDT
Prowl4 wrote:Kurona wrote:Prowl4 wrote:Looks like astrotrain still has his head on in shuttle mode from the image. Interesting.
Where do you see it?
Shuttle mode right at the back where the head would be in robot mode it looks to be there in shuttle mode.
Excuse the atrocious quality and resizing, but as you can see here, there appears to be nothing new at the back. I assume that what you believe to be the head is the spherical thing poking out the back of the Takara silhouette; but as you can see, it's there on the Hasbro toy as well - the raised section between the bottom wing and the top wing. I'm not entirely sure what it is, but it's no different from the Hasbro version.
Posted by Prowl4 on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:14am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Prowl4 wrote:Looks like astrotrain still has his head on in shuttle mode from the image. Interesting.
I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you, legends galvatron was still a headmaster after all.
Anyway, bring on the full reveal of super ginrai! The teasers weren't enough, I need to see what they've done for my favourite godmaster
All I said was it's interesting.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:22am CDT
Posted by kurthy on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:22am CDT
So excited for Super Ginrai! Come on Apex armor!
Posted by Kurona on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:26am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Looks like you've solved it kurona, that bump looks like the closed cockpit section. All you can expect from this release is a cartoon accurate colour scheme
I'm hoping for some more painted detail as well; I recently noticed on the Hasbro toy there's some unpainted windows at the front.
Usually missed-out details don't annoy me that much - I kinda just live with it - but that one really got to me for some reason.
Posted by Randomhero on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:27am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Looks like you've solved it kurona, that bump looks like the closed cockpit section. All you can expect from this release is a cartoon accurate colour scheme
Maybe. Who knows. Takara is weird with astrotrain. They've done both Grey and purple or White and purple. I'm curious if they change his head to give his his visor eyes it's not carton accurate but the entire mold doesn't scream cartoon accurate.
Posted by william-james88 on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:37am CDT
kurthy wrote:This is awesome, now I know which Hasbro versions to get like Sentinel. I also can skip the SDCC box set a date pick up RID windblade.
So excited for Super Ginrai! Come on Apex armor!
Just wait till TAV Windblade is released, that might be an even better option than any.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:51am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Great, now I just look stupid.
Don't worry, we still love you, even though you were wrong in every conceivable way about a Takara release of deluxe Brainstorm.
Posted by william-james88 on July 6th, 2016 @ 11:57am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:Great, now I just look stupid.
Don't worry, we still love you, even though you were wrong in every conceivable way about a Takara release of deluxe Brainstorm.
I just dont like getting my hopes up.
And to be Frank, I wont be getting TT's Brainstorm. I am not fond of how you are stuck paying for those extra targetmasters if you want to get the deluxe (and you dont get the extra head).
Posted by fenrir72 on July 6th, 2016 @ 12:13pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Yup. Figured they'd skip Sentinel. Funny we we're just discussing this yesterday and there's the news. I had complete faith they'd do Soundwave. Retool or not it's Soundwave. They're not passing that up and next year they'll have Soundblaster
Isn't Soundwave's head "Soundblaster"? Or is that in the US continuity?
Posted by Kurona on July 6th, 2016 @ 12:14pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on July 6th, 2016 @ 12:17pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 6th, 2016 @ 12:20pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Yup. Figured they'd skip Sentinel. Funny we we're just discussing this yesterday and there's the news. I had complete faith they'd do Soundwave. Retool or not it's Soundwave. They're not passing that up and next year they'll have Soundblaster
Isn't Soundwave's head "Soundblaster"? Or is that in the US continuity?
Just hasbro for now. This is the first reveal of takara doing sound wave. To be honest would that stop takara of doing a black repaint of a figure?
I'd wager even hasbro will do a sound blaster redeco if it means the using the mold again. They released both Foc soundwave and soundblaster as waves mates 3 years ago after all
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 6th, 2016 @ 12:23pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:Great, now I just look stupid.
Don't worry, we still love you, even though you were wrong in every conceivable way about a Takara release of deluxe Brainstorm.
I just dont like getting my hopes up.
And to be Frank, I wont be getting TT's Brainstorm. I am not fond of how you are stuck paying for those extra targetmasters if you want to get the deluxe (and you dont get the extra head).
I kinda like the "bonus" Titan Master vehicles we're getting with the Takara Headmasters proper. I intend to get the Hasbro versions as well, though, for the extra color variations. In for a penny, in for a pound! I'll probably end up double dipping on deluxe Brainstorm too, so I can get a nice screen accurate deco from Takara with a mouth-plated face from Hasbro's media.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 6th, 2016 @ 12:27pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Yup. Figured they'd skip Sentinel. Funny we we're just discussing this yesterday and there's the news. I had complete faith they'd do Soundwave. Retool or not it's Soundwave. They're not passing that up and next year they'll have Soundblaster
Isn't Soundwave's head "Soundblaster"? Or is that in the US continuity?
Just hasbro for now. This is the first reveal of takara doing sound wave.
Actually, TakaraTomy's Twin Cast is colored blue, not red. That would lead to him being called "Twincast", so the same could apply to little Soundblaster if he's colored black.
To be honest would that stop takara of doing a black repaint of a figure?
Nope, tho they may get stuck with naming the little head. Maybe role-reversal is in order?
By the by, the vehicle included with Brainstorm is... Brawn's
Posted by Randomhero on July 6th, 2016 @ 1:22pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Randomhero wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Yup. Figured they'd skip Sentinel. Funny we we're just discussing this yesterday and there's the news. I had complete faith they'd do Soundwave. Retool or not it's Soundwave. They're not passing that up and next year they'll have Soundblaster
Isn't Soundwave's head "Soundblaster"? Or is that in the US continuity?
Just hasbro for now. This is the first reveal of takara doing sound wave.
Actually, TakaraTomy's Twin Cast is colored blue, not red. That would lead to him being called "Twincast", so the same could apply to little Soundblaster if he's colored black.To be honest would that stop takara of doing a black repaint of a figure?
Nope, tho they may get stuck with naming the little head. Maybe role-reversal is in order?
By the by, the vehicle included with Brainstorm is... Brawn's
I don't think they'll rename the head because headmaster partners don't exist in Japan. The head is the character so Soundwave will be Soundwave and if they make a soundblaster deco it will just be Soundblaster.
I'd believe Japan is weird enough to make a blue twincast deco and make a little headmaster red and call it twincast.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 6th, 2016 @ 1:30pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Randomhero wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Yup. Figured they'd skip Sentinel. Funny we we're just discussing this yesterday and there's the news. I had complete faith they'd do Soundwave. Retool or not it's Soundwave. They're not passing that up and next year they'll have Soundblaster
Isn't Soundwave's head "Soundblaster"? Or is that in the US continuity?
Just hasbro for now. This is the first reveal of takara doing sound wave.
Actually, TakaraTomy's Twin Cast is colored blue, not red. That would lead to him being called "Twincast", so the same could apply to little Soundblaster if he's colored black.To be honest would that stop takara of doing a black repaint of a figure?
Nope, tho they may get stuck with naming the little head. Maybe role-reversal is in order?
By the by, the vehicle included with Brainstorm is... Brawn's
I don't think they'll rename the head because headmaster partners don't exist in Japan. The head is the character so Soundwave will be Soundwave and if they make a soundblaster deco it will just be Soundblaster.
I'd believe Japan is weird enough to make a blue twincast deco and make a little headmaster red and call it twincast.
Toy bios and fiction don't mix well, no matter where you look, and TakaraTomy is not immune to that. Case in point: the original G1 Headmaster toys got names for both the head and the Transtector, but only the name of the Transtector was used for both in fiction. The rundown:
Stylor: Chrome
Gort: Gort
Arcana: Cana
Duros: Ros
Spike: Cerebros
Vorath: Vorath
Monzo: Monzo
Grax: Grax
Zarak: Scorponok
That found its way in later toys, specifically for Brainstorm: while Arcana went unnamed for the Generations release, the first Legends release called him out as Cana on the back of the box.
Fortunately, Masterforce had the toy bios align with the anime when it came to names, so no separate names for the little guys (and girl) here, except for Goshooter where a pun is present:
Head: 剛 秀太 Gō Shūta (traditionally, names in Japan are written in Kanji, family name first)
Robot: ゴーシューター Gōshūtā (traditionally, names for Transformers are written in Katakana)
Posted by Kurona on July 6th, 2016 @ 2:13pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Randomhero wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Randomhero wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Yup. Figured they'd skip Sentinel. Funny we we're just discussing this yesterday and there's the news. I had complete faith they'd do Soundwave. Retool or not it's Soundwave. They're not passing that up and next year they'll have Soundblaster
Isn't Soundwave's head "Soundblaster"? Or is that in the US continuity?
Just hasbro for now. This is the first reveal of takara doing sound wave.
Actually, TakaraTomy's Twin Cast is colored blue, not red. That would lead to him being called "Twincast", so the same could apply to little Soundblaster if he's colored black.To be honest would that stop takara of doing a black repaint of a figure?
Nope, tho they may get stuck with naming the little head. Maybe role-reversal is in order?
By the by, the vehicle included with Brainstorm is... Brawn's
I don't think they'll rename the head because headmaster partners don't exist in Japan. The head is the character so Soundwave will be Soundwave and if they make a soundblaster deco it will just be Soundblaster.
I'd believe Japan is weird enough to make a blue twincast deco and make a little headmaster red and call it twincast.
Toy bios and fiction don't mix well, no matter where you look, and TakaraTomy is not immune to that. Case in point: the original G1 Headmaster toys got names for both the head and the Transtector, but only the name of the Transtector was used for both in fiction. The rundown:
Stylor: Chrome
Gort: Gort
Arcana: Cana
Duros: Ros
Spike: Cerebros
Vorath: Vorath
Monzo: Monzo
Grax: Grax
Zarak: Scorponok
That found its way in later toys, specifically for Brainstorm: while Arcana went unnamed for the Generations release, the first Legends release called him out as Cana on the back of the box.
Fortunately, Masterforce had the toy bios align with the anime when it came to names, so no separate names for the little guys (and girl) here, except for Goshooter where a pun is present:
Head: 剛 秀太 Gō Shūta (traditionally, names in Japan are written in Kanji, family name first)
Robot: ゴーシューター Gōshūtā (traditionally, names for Transformers are written in Katakana)
So... wait, hang on
Scorponok got called MegaZarak... and Zarak got called Scorponok.
Was there some really big error in communication?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 6th, 2016 @ 2:51pm CDT
Kurona wrote:So... wait, hang on
Scorponok got called MegaZarak... and Zarak got called Scorponok.
Was there some really big error in communication?
Who knows? Still seems pretty weird, huh? Even weirder is that he retained the name for the Black Zarak release.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 6th, 2016 @ 2:56pm CDT
Eh, it's all nonsensical foreign words to the Japanese anyway.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Kurona wrote:So... wait, hang on
Scorponok got called MegaZarak... and Zarak got called Scorponok.
Was there some really big error in communication?
Who knows? Still seems pretty weird, huh? Even weirder is that he retained the name for the Black Zarak release.
Posted by Emerje on July 6th, 2016 @ 5:06pm CDT
Alpha Trion I could see being an e-Hobby exclusive repaint as Go Prime since he recently reappeared injured in Deadlock's Cloud comic which ended abruptly. A "Nemesis Prime" repaint of the A3 mold would probably look really cool.
Emerje
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 7th, 2016 @ 3:36pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 7th, 2016 @ 3:38pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 7th, 2016 @ 3:47pm CDT
And because, well, those purple limbs aren't show-accurate.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 7th, 2016 @ 3:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Man, they really need to find some way to change Vorath's purple limbs to red before Wipe gets released. Those purple arms really clash with the red on the little dino accessory.
And because, well, those purple limbs aren't show-accurate.
I am legitimately mystified that hasbro made individualized arms/legs for each headmaster, but they couldn't find a way to give blurr some paint apps
Posted by Cyberpath on July 7th, 2016 @ 3:51pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on July 7th, 2016 @ 3:55pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 7th, 2016 @ 3:57pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I'm adoring this. The toys from both companies look as amazing as each other; neither is superior or inferior to the other, they're just different options. This is what should be the advantage of two different companies offering different decos and heads and I'm loving it.
Yeah, this is nice (though some are clearly superior, but, overall, this is great)
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 7th, 2016 @ 4:01pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 7th, 2016 @ 4:02pm CDT
steals_your_goats wrote:I preordered this mindwipe just for the little crashbash repaint. Is that crazy? It kinda sounds crazy.
It's a little crazy... especially since the headmaster doesn't match the jaw or colors...
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 7th, 2016 @ 4:06pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:I preordered this mindwipe just for the little crashbash repaint. Is that crazy? It kinda sounds crazy.
It's a little crazy... especially since the headmaster doesn't match the jaw or colors...
Yeah but I can just swap it out with someone with red or black arms. Besides you can't tell me that this version of that mold isn't the best looking version.
Posted by Kurona on July 7th, 2016 @ 4:07pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:I preordered this mindwipe just for the little crashbash repaint. Is that crazy? It kinda sounds crazy.
It's a little crazy... especially since the headmaster doesn't match the jaw or colors...
Wait, what? But it's legs are black, and the dino's head is black.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 7th, 2016 @ 4:10pm CDT
Look at the arms.Kurona wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:I preordered this mindwipe just for the little crashbash repaint. Is that crazy? It kinda sounds crazy.
It's a little crazy... especially since the headmaster doesn't match the jaw or colors...
Wait, what? But it's legs are black, and the dino's head is black.
As for the jaw, the Vorath mold's leg have no teeth on them like the Crashbash mold's legs have.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 7th, 2016 @ 4:11pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:I preordered this mindwipe just for the little crashbash repaint. Is that crazy? It kinda sounds crazy.
It's a little crazy... especially since the headmaster doesn't match the jaw or colors...
Wait, what? But it's legs are black, and the dino's head is black.
I meant them separately, the purple arms don't match the red of the body, and the lower jaw doesn't have teeth.
steals_your_goats wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:I preordered this mindwipe just for the little crashbash repaint. Is that crazy? It kinda sounds crazy.
It's a little crazy... especially since the headmaster doesn't match the jaw or colors...
Yeah but I can just swap it out with someone with red or black arms. Besides you can't tell me that this version of that mold isn't the best looking version.
Sure I can, I love crashbash's colors. This is a nice pallet, better than the one that came with skullcruncher, and better than the grimlock one, that one's plastic looks a little cheap
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 7th, 2016 @ 4:12pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:I preordered this mindwipe just for the little crashbash repaint. Is that crazy? It kinda sounds crazy.
It's a little crazy... especially since the headmaster doesn't match the jaw or colors...
Wait, what? But it's legs are black, and the dino's head is black.
It's subtle, but Crashbash has teeth detailing on his lower legs, to go with the Dino Mode of his vehicle. It's that little detail that TakaraTomy choose to overlook.
Again, I shake my head at LG34 ワイプ (waipu)...
Posted by Sigma Magnus on July 7th, 2016 @ 4:16pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 7th, 2016 @ 8:46pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on July 7th, 2016 @ 9:58pm CDT
Both Hb and Takara give good head presentations! Hard to choose
Posted by william-james88 on July 7th, 2016 @ 10:26pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Both Hb and Takara give good head presentations! Hard to choose
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 7th, 2016 @ 10:41pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Both Hb and Takara give good head presentations! Hard to choose
O, don't even
The comparisons do establish the trend of TakaraTomy retooling the faceplate of every main Headmaster, no exception. Makes making the complete list so much easier.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 7th, 2016 @ 11:03pm CDT