New Stock Images of Earthrise Scorponok, the Astro Squad and the Race Track Patrol

Oh, wow. Arcee looks bad. How can vehicle mode look so bad then it doesn't integrate? I was gonna get it just for kicks, but now I'm not so sure.

Well PrimevsPrime’s review answers the question.

“Is dead Prime and the Alternate Universe Optimus Prime listing the same thing?”

Yes they are. The Product Numbers are the same. (E7462)

So this thing is supposedly going to be a Amazon exclusive.

Jtprime17 wrote:Well PrimevsPrime’s review answers the question.

“Is dead Prime and the Alternate Universe Optimus Prime listing the same thing?”

Yes they are. The Product Numbers are the same. (E7462)

So this thing is supposedly going to be a Amazon exclusive.

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Well that's very disappointing. Least we know

Still have my Generations Arcee. What a great figure. This new version isn't really my thing, man. Some will undoubtedly prefer it. To each their own.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Jtprime17 wrote:Well PrimevsPrime’s review answers the question.

“Is dead Prime and the Alternate Universe Optimus Prime listing the same thing?”

Yes they are. The Product Numbers are the same. (E7462)

So this thing is supposedly going to be a Amazon exclusive.

19F6B9D0-BA88-45DB-98EB-912DE5FE286C.jpeg

Well that's very disappointing. Least we know

Yeah and we know to always expect the most boring option to be true. Typical stuff. I guess this means no Fire Convoy.

So...even though Earthrise has had an extremely slow start, some places still not getting wave 1 toys yet, anyone have a guess as to when we could start to see wave 2? I'm hoping for the first weekend of July...for something ANYTHING really as its just been so long, something new to look forward to would be a nice distraction. Sure I have all my pore-orders in, but with dates subject to change, they are not definitive, so its really all up in the air at the moment.

Shame, a shattered glass version might have looked good for the alternate universe prime (but they are probably going to get another five repaints out of the mold anyways :p)

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:Since the details on her forearms don't match any detail on her alt mode, it looks like her robot and alt modes share exactly zero parts.


When was the last time we've seen that? Beast Wars Neo?

Kinda reminds me of that AOE First Edition Optimus.

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It does, however, integrate the front wheels into the legs fairly decently. The backpack, not so much.

william-james88 wrote:It's thunderblast from cybertron. However, she had a miniscule bit of alt mode intergration with her feet being part of the ship, bu that was it.

As bad as these shelformers are, I'm not sure they're quite as bad. At least Thunderblast incorporates her shins and feet. An argument can even be made that that Prime's legs have some incorporation. Arcee on the other hand...

Arcee looks like she's carrying a pink Barbie Power Wheels on her back.

Someone needs to ask Hasbro why third-party toy makers make their characters so much better than they do.

Astro Squad looks really fun, I wish they found a way to put a requiem blaster homage in there

Brokebot wrote:Arcee looks like she's carrying a pink Barbie Power Wheels on her back.

Someone needs to ask Hasbro why third-party toy makers make their characters so much better than they do.

No need to look at third party, they themselves did a much better job in the past.

A retool of Th30 Arcee would have been way better.

Brokebot wrote:Arcee looks like she's carrying a pink Barbie Power Wheels on her back.

Someone needs to ask Hasbro why third-party toy makers make their characters so much better than they do.

Because 3rd parties have no budget when making stuff. They design it and then figure out the price and then charge $80+ for it and you have no problem paying for it. hasbro has a budget and restraints as well as making toys for everyone. Not just grown adults who never grew out of playing with toys.

If only Floro Dery hadn't designed Arcee to be a Princess Leia Barbie doll with next to no altmode kibble/altmode integration.

I've ranted about it before, but HasTak engineers need to implement better 'mass control' when designing fembots. Yes, I know that screen accurate models are usually quite slim and round-limbed as opposed to the more cubic-looking dudes but they just need to spread the overall plastic mass better.

Brokebot wrote:Arcee looks like she's carrying a pink Barbie Power Wheels on her back.

Someone needs to ask Hasbro why third-party toy makers make their characters so much better than they do.

In fairness, though, the only real competition 3P have for a G1 deluxe Arcee is Delicate Warrior. And, while I did like her at the time, she has the old "omit the rear end of the vehicle" problem as well as a non-standard face.

Skritz wrote:I've ranted about it before, but HasTak engineers need to implement better 'mass control' when designing fembots. Yes, I know that screen accurate models are usually quite slim and round-limbed as opposed to the more cubic-looking dudes but they just need to spread the overall plastic mass better.

Titans Return Arcee is a pretty good fembot. I don't need fembots to be that sexy.

FuzeBlast duo looks cool!

Pass on Earthrise Arcee. I don't see this as being much different or any better than Thrilling 30s Arcee.

DeathReviews wrote:Pass on Earthrise Arcee. I don't see this as being much different or any better than Thrilling 30s Arcee.

At least it's more accurate deco-wise.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Pass on Earthrise Arcee. I don't see this as being much different or any better than Thrilling 30s Arcee.

At least it's more accurate deco-wise.

Except for her unpainted white face.

Jtprime17 wrote:Well PrimevsPrime’s review answers the question.

“Is dead Prime and the Alternate Universe Optimus Prime listing the same thing?”

Yes they are. The Product Numbers are the same. (E7462)

So this thing is supposedly going to be a Amazon exclusive.

Well that is...actively infuriating, because not only was I excited by the possibility of the Amazon listing being SG Prime (which I still want and now have to hope will show up later somehow), but it conveys the message that Hasbro thinks that selling the CORPSE of G1 Optimus is more important than the still-living version of ANY OTHER OPTIMUS that would actually REQUIRE the title of "Alternate Universe OP". All the brownie points they earned by releasing Galaxy Upgrade OP (i.e. a Generations update/version of the Prime that I actually grew up with) have now been rendered null and void.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Pass on Earthrise Arcee. I don't see this as being much different or any better than Thrilling 30s Arcee.

At least it's more accurate deco-wise.

Except for her unpainted white face.

I'll take that over all the black parts the T30 has.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Jtprime17 wrote:Well PrimevsPrime’s review answers the question.

“Is dead Prime and the Alternate Universe Optimus Prime listing the same thing?”

Yes they are. The Product Numbers are the same. (E7462)

So this thing is supposedly going to be a Amazon exclusive.

Well that is...actively infuriating, because not only was I excited by the possibility of the Amazon listing being SG Prime (which I still want and now have to hope will show up later somehow), but it conveys the message that Hasbro thinks that selling the CORPSE of G1 Optimus is more important than the still-living version of ANY OTHER OPTIMUS that would actually REQUIRE the title of "Alternate Universe OP". All the brownie points they earned by releasing Galaxy Upgrade OP (i.e. a Generations update/version of the Prime that I actually grew up with) have now been rendered null and void.

I would love not just Shattered Glass Prime to make fans own a version of the character without paying for the expensive Classics or MP versions, but I'm up for G2 Optimus Prime (with some retooling and a few color differences to not have the cab be identical), and I also want a Pepsi Prime (with a different trailer) as well as Fire Guts theme

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Pass on Earthrise Arcee. I don't see this as being much different or any better than Thrilling 30s Arcee.

At least it's more accurate deco-wise.

Except for her unpainted white face.

I'll take that over all the black parts the T30 has.

Or you can get the best of both worlds with Legends Arcee. That's turning out to be one of the best purchases I ever made.

Deadput wrote:Just another in a long line of examples for why G1 Arcee is overall just a terrible design period.

Arcee should pull a Bulkhead and her Prime design become her default. It is by far a better design that actually puts her alt mode into her robot mode.

Jtprime17 wrote:Well PrimevsPrime’s review answers the question.

“Is dead Prime and the Alternate Universe Optimus Prime listing the same thing?”

Yes they are. The Product Numbers are the same. (E7462)

So this thing is supposedly going to be a Amazon exclusive.

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This is the 2nd dumbest thing of the day in this thread after Arcee's backpack

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Deadput wrote:Just another in a long line of examples for why G1 Arcee is overall just a terrible design period.

Arcee should pull a Bulkhead and her Prime design become her default. It is by far a better design that actually puts her alt mode into her robot mode.

Jtprime17 wrote:Well PrimevsPrime’s review answers the question.

“Is dead Prime and the Alternate Universe Optimus Prime listing the same thing?”

Yes they are. The Product Numbers are the same. (E7462)

So this thing is supposedly going to be a Amazon exclusive.

19F6B9D0-BA88-45DB-98EB-912DE5FE286C.jpeg

This is the 2nd dumbest thing of the day in this thread after Arcee's backpack

It's been a long, dumb day.

Guys. I'm about to show you something that may turn us all around on the idea of this dead Prime.

I just came across this post on The Allspark:

Someone asked about a possible label set for this on the reprolabels facebook group. Another member replied that it should have blue screens of death for the trailer monitors, dead battery warnings and low fuel light stickers. And another suggested EXP1R3D for the license plate

I fully endorse that idea

I second the endorsement of this idea!

Looks like they've swapped Roller Force and Ground Hog's names on the packaging.

Any word on if Sleep Mode Optimus comes with a Matrix accessory?

YRQRM0 wrote:Astro Squad looks really fun, I wish they found a way to put a requiem blaster homage in there

I think the weapon mode is still included. It'll probably be just holding the shuttle backwards but we can call that the requiem blaster.

Decepticon Stryker wrote:Any word on if Sleep Mode Optimus comes with a Matrix accessory?

To answer my own question: yes. And it looks exactly like the one that comes with the regular release.

Sabrblade wrote:Guys. I'm about to show you something that may turn us all around on the idea of this dead Prime.

I just came across this post on The Allspark:

Someone asked about a possible label set for this on the reprolabels facebook group. Another member replied that it should have blue screens of death for the trailer monitors, dead battery warnings and low fuel light stickers. And another suggested EXP1R3D for the license plate

I fully endorse that idea

I second the endorsement of this idea!

Another cool idea for labels for Dead Prime is potentially one for Armorhide



Yeah the Optimus head might get in the way of that idea but I think it's a good one regardless.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Deadput wrote:Just another in a long line of examples for why G1 Arcee is overall just a terrible design period.

Arcee should pull a Bulkhead and her Prime design become her default. It is by far a better design that actually puts her alt mode into her robot mode.

I wouldn't mind that as long as her colors were changed just to avoid redundancy with Chromia, her G1 colors or maybe the ROTF "lightish-red" colors could work.

Skritz wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:This is the 2nd dumbest thing of the day in this thread after Arcee's backpack

It's been a long, dumb day.

I think D-Max would definitely agree.

Let's recap:

Why is Arcee now a 100% partsformer? Because the robot had to be As G1 accurate as possible.
What is that Amazon exclusive altenate prime figure? A G1 Prime representing him in the G1 movie.
What are the next figures featured in the movie toy line? Why the Transformers G1 movie characters of course.

Do we have anything other than the "86" in the product ID to confirm that Studio Series is including the animated movie?

In other, more typical Earthrise news, another mass retail figure in Hasbro's markets is getting the TakaraTomy Mall exclusive treatment in Japan. This time, it's Trailbreaker:

https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810171218/

At this rate I have to wonder how much of Earthrise is going to see sale in Japanese toy stores

Takara has many new preorders on their site Takaratomymall for multiple different Transformers lines. What may concern people outside Japan the most are the new images we have of Earthrise Trailbreaker. Also, the listings teach us that Trailbreaker will be an exclusive in Japan (the identical Hasbro release is a mainline toy) but the Netflix figures won't be. Chromia and Sideswipe can currently be obtained on Amazon Japan, shipping worldwide (well, mostly) and now we have confirmation that it will be the same for Scrapface and Hotlink. this is good news for many international buyers who have been spending more than double on e-bay for Hotlink since you'll now be able to order him on Amazon Japan. We will post a listing when we have one. Same with Scrapface who many want 3 to make a camera. However, Skipjack, from the Studio Series, will be an exclusive in Japan.

Below are links to the new TTMall listings along with images that may interest you.

ER-09 Arcee
ER-10 Scorponok
WFC-05 Scrap Face
WFC-06 Hotlink
ER EX-13 Trailbreaker
SS EX Skipjack

william-james88 wrote:

Skritz wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:This is the 2nd dumbest thing of the day in this thread after Arcee's backpack

It's been a long, dumb day.

I think D-Max would definitely agree.

Let's recap:

Why is Arcee now a 100% partsformer? Because the robot had to be As G1 accurate as possible.
What is that Amazon exclusive altenate prime figure? A G1 Prime representing him in the G1 movie.
What are the next figures featured in the movie toy line? Why the Transformers G1 movie characters of course.

Look, I get GEEWUN is the fundamental core of the franchise but the pandering to screen accuracy of physically impossible Sunbow animation models is what's screwing over Masterpiece. That and if goddamn Studio Series gets overtaken by the GEEWUN you know it's gone incredibly stupid.

Here is a comparison of all 3 Arcees coming out this year

william-james88 wrote:Here is a comparison of all 3 Arcees coming out this year

Earthrise Arcee just has a look of "Guys, why isn't my gun working?? Also, are you sure I have to carry this much alt mode on my back..?"

Animated Arcee is still probably the best G1-ish take in my book. I wouldn't have minded if they had remoulded that a bit to make it pass as a G1 version.

Sabrblade wrote:https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1268840298857168898

Hmmm, i was hoping scorponok would be taller at least as tall as fort max

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1268840298857168898

Hmmm, i was hoping scorponok would be taller at least as tall as fort max

Fort max only got that tall by having next to no mass, I'm betting scorpy's gonna be a heavy boi

I might be all alone on this one, but I'm not overly freaked out by the kibble on arcee; with the weaponizer system, I'd be willing to bet that arcee can use her hoverboard as a shield or do something else with it, and frankly, I'm more okay with her partsforming than cliffjumpers partsforming

Hellscream9999 wrote:I might be all alone on this one, but I'm not overly freaked out by the kibble on arcee; with the weaponizer system, I'd be willing to bet that arcee can use her hoverboard as a shield or do something else with it, and frankly, I'm more okay with her partsforming than cliffjumpers partsforming

This is exactly why I keep going back and forth on Arcee. Like, the partsforming is egregious, but a Riot Shield Arcee might be nice... The face being unpainted is annoying, but I like how the shoulder wings look. If she came with swords or blast effects like Cyberverse Arcee, I think that'd sell me, but as it is, I'm hoping it'll get repainted as the Paradron Medic/Lifeline, but I may decide when I see it in hand to pick up Arcee too

Oh boy, people are freaking out in this thread too

What only really bothers me about Arcee is that they felt the need to hide as much kibble as possible in one big lump on Arcee, even made it removable, on a $20 figure.

But on a $100+ figure they thought this was A-OK!



Hasbro/Takara Tomy really does have a strange hookup when it comes to Arcee and most female figures having as little kibble as possible. It's even more discouraging when some of their best female figures do have vehicle kibble and alt mode integration like the Orthia girls or Windblade. TR Arcee was a fantastic figure! This could have been Hasbro's chance to give Arcee a much need design update like they've done with much of the WfC line, but they chose to keep using the same tired design and had to make her a partsformer to compensate for it.

BTW, do we know how tall Arcee is? I'm guessing she's pretty tiny, but I can't remember if we've seen her side by side with other Deluxe figures.

Emerje

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1268840298857168898

Hmmm, i was hoping scorponok would be taller at least as tall as fort max

Fort max only got that tall by having next to no mass, I'm betting scorpy's gonna be a heavy boi

Plus, it looks like he'll scale well with G1 Fort Max.