New Still from Transformers: Cyberverse & A Lot of Bumblebee in the Future

Oh. Goodie. Just what the Transformers franchise needed. MORE Bumblebee. Because, ya know, we don't have enough of that already. No, we haven't had nearly enough Bumblebee-centric TV series and movies. And they haven't made any Bumblebee figures in decades, we're starving for one. So please, PLEASE - out with it already! More Bumblebee, we beg of thee! Why, there's no way in the world anybody could ever get tired of that character!

/sarc

I KNOW!!! BUMBLEBEE IS THE NEW SPOCK PRIME!!

in his movie with hailee steinfeld or i can't remember her name, something happens where he time travels, doesn't get his voice box ruined, and they all develop a different aesthetic, attitude, and atmosphere. I'm calling it now.

KVO PRIME

Bumblebee is singlehandedly destroying the franchise.

After reading this I’m thouroughly convinced that Hasbro does not listen to fans. It’s absolutely hilarious how they try and push The Prime Wars cartoons as something fans are rejoicing over, when the criticism has been almost universally scathing. That, and now we won’t even be getting a proper length cartooon! 11 minutes? What kind of shit is that?

This is my opinion but Hasbro could be cool and do what DC does, give mature fans a mature TF cartoon/movie once a year or so.

Rated X wrote:Bumblebee is singlehandedly destroying the franchise.

Or saving it, depending on the point of view. That TLK wave 1 BB was the best selling toy from the line.

Personally I like Bee, and wouldn't mind seeing a bit more stuff of him, esspecially if it helps get TF back into the spotlight. He's real popular with the kids and it's porobably thr best plan at the moment with the movie reboot about to take affect. If there's one or two things I'd like to see in the future though it'd be masterpiece figures of the '76 camero Bee, and his Volkswagon form.

Funny, I remember Starscream being far more popular with women and girls back in the Armada time. That was before Bumblebee usurped other peoples roles/personalities though.

fuck all this

Oh boy... More BUMBLEBEE!

I wish I was a nostalgic millennial.

Oh boy, more Bumblebee. Well, I suppose I can't be surprised, but it is a bit disappointing to get the same character over and over again. Now to be fair I like Bumblebee- G1 Bumblebee was actually a really likeable character (helped by Dan's wonderful voice talent), Animated Bumblebee was a refreshingly self-aware example of the "annoying rookie" trope, and honestly I didn't mind movieverse Bee. But the fact ol' Bumbles is getting put into literally every single TF media front and centre is getting predictable and stale, and the fact he's getting put alongside Windblade is not helping matters.

Funny, when I was a kid I often thought "Why don't we get Bumblebee back again?" as I always liked him in the G1 episodes I'd watched and was surprised about his non-inclusion in the contemporary toylines. Be careful what you wish for I suppose.

now we know what will kill this franchise, freaking bumblebee....

Black Hat wrote:Oh boy, more Bumblebee. Well, I suppose I can't be surprised, but it is a bit disappointing to get the same character over and over again. Now to be fair I like Bumblebee- G1 Bumblebee was actually a really likeable character (helped by Dan's wonderful voice talent), Animated Bumblebee was a refreshingly self-aware example of the "annoying rookie" trope, and honestly I didn't mind movieverse Bee. But the fact ol' Bumbles is getting put into literally every single TF media front and centre is getting predictable and stale, and the fact he's getting put alongside Windblade is not helping matters.

Yet jest gettin' old. Now get off my lawn!
My oldeat son has watched G1, some of BW, rescue, some of prime, and RID. His favorite. He knows almost every single character in my 400-500 piece cillection. And his 50 or so piece collection. Guess who his favorite character is? I'll give you a hint, it's not one of the wreckers.

Please Hasbro, don't turn Bumblebee into Roman Reigns.

In other words we like him when he is not shoved into the spotlight so much that other characters get ignored. One of the best things about Transformers is there are so many characters - please feature more than just Bee. I know that the fact that Bee, Optimus and Megatron are on most of the merch for branding and recognition but we want to keep fans instead of just draw their attention.

It's not that we don't like Bee. I like him a lot, he is a fun and awesome character but too much is too much. Similar to how wrestling fans are bored of Roman Reings, TF fans are tiring on Bee. Its not that people actually dislike Roman (or Bee) its that we want to see balance. We don't like the way the character is being overused when others deserve to be featured.

Bumblebee was the main character in RiD15, he's getting his own live action film and has always been one of the bots to be featured in pretty much every Transformers media ever. Let's give some of the other characters a chance please!

Stormshot_Prime wrote:After reading this I’m thouroughly convinced that Hasbro does not listen to fans. It’s absolutely hilarious how they try and push The Prime Wars cartoons as something fans are rejoicing over, when the criticism has been almost universally scathing.

Except on Facebook, YouTube, and other social media outlets (which Hasbro probably does check), as the majority voice about the CW and TR was almost universally blind praise for how GEEWUN they were and how they were SO much better better than all the non-G1 shows and movies we get on TV and in theaters, along with people begging for Hasbro to make more shows like those and at full length and with more G1 voice actors back and with more G1 characters voiced by their G1 actors and G1 G1 G1 G1 G1...

Absolute Zero wrote:Funny, I remember Starscream being far more popular with women and girls back in the Armada time.

That's cuz Starscream was emo in Armada. Girls dug the brooding bad boy loner who had issues and just wanted to be loved.

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:After reading this I’m thouroughly convinced that Hasbro does not listen to fans. It’s absolutely hilarious how they try and push The Prime Wars cartoons as something fans are rejoicing over, when the criticism has been almost universally scathing.

Except on Facebook, YouTube, and other social media outlets (which Hasbro probably does check), as the majority voice about the CW and TR was almost universally blind praise for how GEEWUN they were and how they were SO much better better than all the non-G1 shows and movies we get on TV and in theaters, along with people begging for Hasbro to make more shows like those and at full length and with more G1 voice actors back and with more G1 characters voiced by their G1 actors and G1 G1 G1 G1 G1...

I asked on facebook what people's thoughts were and I did get the reply of "at least it aint Bayformers"

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:After reading this I’m thouroughly convinced that Hasbro does not listen to fans. It’s absolutely hilarious how they try and push The Prime Wars cartoons as something fans are rejoicing over, when the criticism has been almost universally scathing.

Except on Facebook, YouTube, and other social media outlets (which Hasbro probably does check), as the majority voice about the CW and TR was almost universally blind praise for how GEEWUN they were and how they were SO much better better than all the non-G1 shows and movies we get on TV and in theaters, along with people begging for Hasbro to make more shows like those and at full length and with more G1 voice actors back and with more G1 characters voiced by their G1 actors and G1 G1 G1 G1 G1...

Absolute Zero wrote:Funny, I remember Starscream being far more popular with women and girls back in the Armada time.

That's cuz Starscream was emo in Armada. Girls dug the brooding bad boy loner who had issues and just wanted to be loved.

Well that’s the thing, it’s fan demanding these things and are disappointed, cause there’s no way you can exactly recapture that 80s “vibe,” as much as Hasbro wants.

Transformers is iconic and strong when they branch out a little, it’s how we got Beast Wars and Armada. Transformers will always somehow relate to G1, Hasbro just seems stuck in this vicious cycle.

I also think the Prime Wars cartoons were made by people being rushed who aren’t too familiar with the overall TF “multiverse”.

Another thread full of whining and crying about Hasbro and bumblebee. Shocking.

hausjam wrote:Another thread full of whining and crying about Hasbro and bumblebee. Shocking.

Or... another thread full of (at least mostly) valid complaints about Bumblebee's omnipresence and how it's kind of getting stale. You have to admit, he is everywhere right now, and variety is the spice of life after all!

Qwan wrote:

hausjam wrote:Another thread full of whining and crying about Hasbro and bumblebee. Shocking.

Or... another thread full of (at least mostly) valid complaints about Bumblebee's omnipresence and how it's kind of getting stale. You have to admit, he is everywhere right now, and variety is the spice of life after all!

Have to agree. It’s not bad to get mad about something like this, especially when there’s so many other characters in the franchise that are as good as dead because Hasbro’s singlemindedness. Why not make appeal to audiences with fan fave characters like Elita-One, Arcee, etc?

WreckerJack wrote:Please Hasbro, don't turn Bumblebee into Roman Reigns.

In other words we like him when he is not shoved into the spotlight so much that other characters get ignored. One of the best things about Transformers is there are so many characters - please feature more than just Bee. I know that the fact that Bee, Optimus and Megatron are on most of the merch for branding and recognition but we want to keep fans instead of just draw their attention.

It's not that we don't like Bee. I like him a lot, he is a fun and awesome character but too much is too much. Similar to how wrestling fans are bored of Roman Reings, TF fans are tiring on Bee. Its not that people actually dislike Roman (or Bee) its that we want to see balance. We don't like the way the character is being overused when others deserve to be featured.

Bumblebee was the main character in RiD15, he's getting his own live action film and has always been one of the bots to be featured in pretty much every Transformers media ever. Let's give some of the other characters a chance please!

Are you me? Because these are my exact feelings.

In social psychology there is a phenomenon known as the mere-exposure effect: the more you see something, the more familiar you are with it, and thusly the more you like it. Apparently in my studies they didn't record a phenomenon where the more you see something the less you like it. The more they push Bee the less I like him, and that sucks because he's not a bad character. He's so overexposed that it's annoying.

Also, I got really peeved when they said that they wanted to move away from the ensemble-based stories. Transformers is an ensemble based story, and giving it a main character (whether human or not) defeats and takes away so much from the plot.

I can't say I'm surprised but nor can I say I blame hasbro, if bee sells to kids (the dreaded target audience) then it would be daft of them not to exploit it. Hasbro is a business, their goal is to make as much money as possible (which they aid by minimising their costs in toy production, hence hollowness on figures etc), of their studies tell them that kids love show that feature one main character then it's logical to take that route as it involves fewer risks. We as fans get frustrated with these plans of course, but what can we do? Yes it would be a good idea dear i think, if they did put out a animated feature every year, drawing on different branches of the franchise but how much would that cost hasbro? Would they get a return on that investment? Like it or not but this is capitalism, Hasbro's goal is money (despite what they may claim). Maybe if we could all become shareholders we could stand a chance to change things.

ZeroWolf wrote: Like it or not but this is capitalism, Hasbro's goal is money (despite what they may claim).

That is very true. But like all franchises they need to listen to the fans constructive criticism or wind up defunct. Of course we do not want this to happen. We want Transformers to be the very best that it can be.

I'll admit that I am skeptical of this new show but I am willing to give it a try. I was let down by RID because of it's lather rinse repeat formula. Prime had set my expectations high because it had a lot of the things that in my opinion make a story great, like character development, high stakes and character backstories. RID15 felt more like a colorful kid show like say Pokemon or Scooby Doo.


I hope Cyberverse has better storytelling, adventure and at the very least humor. I think it can accomplish the fun side of RID that I did enjoy. I mean animated was kind of silly looking to me at first yet it was an amazing show. Only time will tell if this show is going to be good or not. I am going to keep an open mind before judging because I can't judge something that hasn't aired.

Exactly, time will tell if this new show will be any good, if not, we'll just wait till the next time round.

william-james88 wrote: I asked on facebook what people's thoughts were and I did get the reply of "at least it aint Bayformers"

Hear, hear.

If rumors about Ron Perlman and Mark Hamill are true, I'm ready to try it just for them.

TurboMMaster wrote:If rumors about Ron Perlman and Mark Hamill are true, I'm ready to try it just for them.

Wrong show.

There is still a chance that they will find a room for them in Cyberverse, adter all you can't just have acces to iconic voice actors (And a Star Wars star) from the 90's and without using them, it's a perfect way to keep older audience interested.

*SIIIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH*

So long any sort of edgy Transformers cartoons. Hello even more tiny kid appeal shows with cartoon violence and "jailing" of bad guys instead of actual warfare. Seriously, fuck this franchise at this point.

...btw, I like Bumblebee if done right. But not as this "Oh I'm the next Rodimus Prime who also never will get a Prime mode to ditch the cute name".

DeathReviews wrote:

william-james88 wrote: I asked on facebook what people's thoughts were and I did get the reply of "at least it aint Bayformers"

Hear, hear.

I liked Dark of the Moon.

TurboMMaster wrote:There is still a chance that they will find a room for them in Cyberverse, adter all you can't just have acces to iconic voice actors (And a Star Wars star) from the 90's and without using them, it's a perfect way to keep older audience interested.

We do not know the voice cast for cyber verse, so there is no info to share at the moment. Stay tuned on the site and we will news it when we know. As of right now, there is no reason or indication that there would be any cross pollination in voice talent from the different shows.

"while “Prime Wars,” which debuted on Verizon’s streaming service VerizonGo90, was conceived as a way to reach older, devoted fans who have grown up with the franchise. "

LOL, reach older devoted fans?

You pander to them with garbage.

TF Prime was a way to reach older devoted fans, not this Prime Wars S H I T

Galactic Prime wrote:S H I T

FYI, I consider this a bypass of the swear filter. Do it again and you get a warning.

SillyMcGilly wrote:*SIIIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH*

So long any sort of edgy Transformers cartoons. Hello even more tiny kid appeal shows with cartoon violence and "jailing" of bad guys instead of actual warfare. Seriously, **** this franchise at this point.

...btw, I like Bumblebee if done right. But not as this "Oh I'm the next Rodimus Prime who also never will get a Prime mode to ditch the cute name".

DeathReviews wrote:

william-james88 wrote: I asked on facebook what people's thoughts were and I did get the reply of "at least it aint Bayformers"

Hear, hear.

I liked Dark of the Moon.

As much as I'm an advocate of the animated features idea ala DC do we need edgy cartoons? The way you've worded that gIves the impression you'd want one that's just edgy for edginess sake. We don't need one with an edge, we just need quality storytelling (which you can get with any rating).

TurboMMaster wrote:There is still a chance that they will find a room for them in Cyberverse, adter all you can't just have acces to iconic voice actors (And a Star Wars star) from the 90's and without using them, it's a perfect way to keep older audience interested.

Dude, Cyberverse is being made by a completely different company and different people. What happens in the Machinima shows has no bearing on Cyberverse. Power of the Primes is already done and made and will finish airing in seven weeks' time while Cyberverse is still an enigma at this point. There is zero legitimate reason for you to assume that Ron Perlman and/or Mark Hamill have anything to do with Cyberverse, especially since the Machinima shows were done in California (which is where both Perlman and Hamill reside) while Cyberverse is being handled in New York. Hamill was even in Rescue Bots beforehand and that had no affect on his being cast for Titans Return and Power of the Primes.

Burn wrote:

Galactic Prime wrote:S H I T

FYI, I consider this a bypass of the swear filter. Do it again and you get a warning.

But #$$^$%#$ doesn't get my point across

Thanks to a plethora of you fans for having contacted us with the news that Hasbro has updated their website to now have character sheets for the Cyberverse TV show cast. We get to see the characters that will be on the show and many are new reveals, like Acid Storm, Thundercracker and Prowl. While the designs are based on Emiliano Santalucia's Evergreen designs, these are stylized more and have several differences. Wheeljack for instance has some facial hair, looking quite reminescent of what we could see hidden underneath his Masterpiece toy's faceplate.

Clicking on each character art on the site reveals a bio. Below is the full roster revealed along with the images of the characters.

Which character are you excited to see most?

Autobots: Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Windblade, Wheeljack, Ratchet, Grimlock, Hot Rod, Prowl, Blurr.

Decepticons: Megatron, Starscream, Thundercracker, Shadow Striker, Shockwave, Slipstream, Soundwave, Acid Storm.

Ratchet got buff and Wheeljack grew a mustache. Manly science pals!

I love all of these designs!!! Very happy that Acid Storm gets a role. Now if only they had beter toys, these designs deserve a proper rendition in plastic.

What's this, seekers who aren't entirely direct repaints? MADNESS! RUINED FOREVER!

Shadow Striker? Could that possibly mean Roulette may end up being in the show, too? Or, at the very least, a cheap repaint made by Hasbro to make more money? Either way would be nice.

Starscream and Hot Rod are lookin' a little feminine, there.

Meanwhile, Blurr's looking less inspired by his 1980s G1 design and more his IDW G1 design (his head, especially).


As for the bios...

Bumblebee is sure taking his amnesia well. He seems all too chipper and optimistic about getting his memories back, and has some inkling about some kind of "epic powers" he might possess and unlock.

Optimus Prime is Optimus Prime. That is all.

Windblade seems to draw most from her RID 2015 personality, being described as "super cool", able to take on the Seekers by herself, and full of determination.

Whoa, Grimlock's a whole new take, entirely! While being all typically strong and smashy in T-Rex mode, robot mode for him is a whole different case. He's described as "one of the smartest, smoothest talking bots around", and Bee considers him a very reliable pal who "always looks out for his friends". I could kinda dig a "cool guy" Grimlock.

Wheeljack's pretty much just his traditional inventor self.

Ratchet's kind of a popular dude in this version. He's so good at being a doctor that "every bot in the galaxy wants him as their medical officer." No signs of his traditional grumpiness either.

Hot Rod's now all about danger and showing off. Always up for a race, but a bit of a sore loser if he doesn't win. But he's also one of Bee's favorite people.

Prowl's a stick-in-the-mud who's all into rules and regulations and needs Bee to teach him how to have fun. Whatever.

Blurr is fast and talks fast. And Bee had to take a deep breath when imitating his way of speaking. Because robots breathe, I guess.


Megatron is a no good evil bad guy who used to be friends with Optimus.

Thundercracker is Animated Thundercracker. Vainglorious and all muscle.

This version of Starscream is a little Swindle-ish this time. He'd sell each of his teammates out if given the opportunity, but for power instead of profit.

Shadow Striker is mean and spitefully insulting to everyone and wants to destroy for Earth for some reason.

Shockwave continues the tradition established by Dreamwave of his being a scientist, but now with the creep factor upped a bit.

Slipstream's got some good qualities to her, being a capable strategist and showing leadership potential. Nothing's said if she has any actual leadership ambitions, though. Her only mentioned intent is, like Shadow Striker, to destroy planet Earth.

Soundwave's a master spy who listens in on the Autobots by "messing with [their] electrical impulses, or something along this evil lines."

Acid Storm's bio claims that Starscream is the Seeker leader in contrast to the previous news we were told about Slipstream being their leader. As for Acid Storm himself, he can control the weather to produce "toxic rain" and is kind of a stalker to Bee and his friends, always chasing them around.

Sabrblade wrote:Thundercracker is Animated Thundercracker. Vainglorious and all muscle.

I thought it seemed more G1-Bio-Inspired. With him being a basic Seeker warrior and arrogant because he can fly.

Who's that bot left of Soundwave? looks like a fembot. Same with the one between TT and Acidstorm. The one with a monocle......Blitzwing? Looks like a fembot too.
Starscream and Hotrod also look gurly.

The rest look awesome! (Shockwave especially)

fenrir72 wrote:Who's that bot left of Soundwave? looks like a fembot. Same with the one between TT and Acidstorm. The one with a monocle......Blitzwing? Looks like a fembot too.

Slipstream and Shadow Striker.

I want to see this art style in motion.

WreckerJack wrote:Ratchet got buff and Wheeljack grew a mustache. Manly science pals!

Not the first time he busted myths had one:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Not the first time he busted myths had one:

Looks like some kinda weird mutton chops to me!

Sabrblade wrote:Ratchet's kind of a popular dude in this version. He's so good at being a doctor that "every bot in the galaxy wants him as their medical officer." No signs of his traditional grumpiness either.

He was grumpy in prime, less grumpy in RiD 15 so maybe this is the evolution of his character? I can't remember if this was going to be a sequel or not (It doesn't look like it) but I for one am kinda glad to see Ratchet as a friendly character. It's good to see a fav character more happy - especially one that has had to deal with some rough stuff. Of course we won't know until the show airs for sure. He could be his grumpy ol' self and that would be fine with me. Just please please please be voiced by Jeffery Combs!

Hm not keen on these. Should have left mouthplates on Wheeljack (that 'facial hair' looks as bad as that Unicrone Rodimus from the PotP) and Grimlock. And everyone's lost a finger off each hand for simplicity i guess. And Blurr's got that really crappy overly spikey IDW head style (and obnoxious facial expression). Prowl looks the most 'normal'. I kinda wanna push those windows down on Ratchet's shoulders cos they look odd sticking up like that just likely to get broken.

Anyways yeah this show probably ain't for me (but then none of the tv shows ever have been, not even the original). Enjoy.

Man, these brand-new designs for these characters for Cyberverse are fabulous! Though, i'm extremely anxious enough to see what the alt-mode for all of these characters would look like. Should any of you guys find a images of the alt-modes of all of these character, who are just recently being posted on the Hasbro website, pleas feel free to post them up for all of us to see. Thanks.

WreckerJack wrote:Ratchet got buff and Wheeljack grew a mustache. Manly science pals!

Take a look again. That's a beard Wheeljack is sporting.

Wheeljack actually sort of reminds me of me: beard, science, engineer, and a smile

I am digging the designs and bios. I'm really glad Thundercracker made the cut, but poor Skywarp!

I wish we did get some better toys of these designs, they are quite cool. I'm drawn to Jackie with all the tech detailing and seeming body mods, Hot Rod is pretty sweet, Shockwave and Soundwave both look angry and awesome, and Grimlock is my Grimlock!