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Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 21st, 2016 @ 2:30am CDT
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Posted by Autobot Roadburn on May 21st, 2016 @ 2:59am CDT
On the other hand, though, SO glad I got a preorder in for Blurr. The Takara version is beautiful.
Posted by Kurona on May 21st, 2016 @ 3:11am CDT
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Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2016 @ 7:05am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:I'll take that Cyclonus, Scourge, and Sweeps picture as a ringing endorsement from TFYuki and Takara Tomy for using Unite Warriors Cyclonus as G1 "Classics" Cyclonus. I can hardly wait until Legends Galvatron and Scourge (and Titans Return Scourge for some Sweeps army building) are released!
Does it also endorse that Cyclonus' armada is the sweeps?
Posted by Kurona on May 21st, 2016 @ 7:32am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:I'll take that Cyclonus, Scourge, and Sweeps picture as a ringing endorsement from TFYuki and Takara Tomy for using Unite Warriors Cyclonus as G1 "Classics" Cyclonus. I can hardly wait until Legends Galvatron and Scourge (and Titans Return Scourge for some Sweeps army building) are released!
Does it also endorse that Cyclonus' armada is the sweeps?
Cyclonus' Armada can be the...
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What's the team name for Grand Galvatron's components? The Grandicons? Galvicons? Haunticons?
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 21st, 2016 @ 7:48am CDT
Kurona wrote:william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:I'll take that Cyclonus, Scourge, and Sweeps picture as a ringing endorsement from TFYuki and Takara Tomy for using Unite Warriors Cyclonus as G1 "Classics" Cyclonus. I can hardly wait until Legends Galvatron and Scourge (and Titans Return Scourge for some Sweeps army building) are released!
Does it also endorse that Cyclonus' armada is the sweeps?
Cyclonus' Armada can be the...
...
What's the team name for Grand Galvatron's components? The Grandicons? Galvicons? Haunticons?
I think galvatron prefers the term minions.
Wonder how it would look with UW Cyclonus leading a pack of his universe incarnations?
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:08am CDT
(Ach, this is what happens when you don't proof read)
Posted by Kurona on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:21am CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:Can we all just sit for a minute and appreciate that there are a ton of good looking Transformers coming, (mostly) all with new molds? I mean, coming from Combined Wars(although that had it's moments), this is all like a breath of fresh air. You done did good, Has/Tak.
I've been doing that just about every minute just about every day. Titans Return/Legends is looking to be some of the most amazing shit the Transformers Toyline has ever put out
Posted by Evil Eye on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:32am CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:Can we all just sit for a minute and appreciate that there are a ton of good looking Transformers coming, (mostly) all with new molds? I mean, coming from Combined Wars(although that had it's moments), this is all like a breath of fresh air. You done did good, Has/Tak.
Assuming, of course, the plastic quality/QC/tolerances aren't total garbage. And given there's rumours the manufacturing got moved yet AGAIN, this time to India of all places...yeah. I await Titans Return with cautious optimism.
Posted by fenrir72 on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:49am CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:Bronzewolf wrote:Can we all just sit for a minute and appreciate that there are a ton of good looking Transformers coming, (mostly) all with new molds? I mean, coming from Combined Wars(although that had it's moments), this is all like a breath of fresh air. You done did good, Has/Tak.
Assuming, of course, the plastic quality/QC/tolerances aren't total garbage. And given there's rumours the manufacturing got moved yet AGAIN, this time to India of all places...yeah. I await Titans Return with cautious optimism.
Ain't capitalism grand?Now Hb is moving to India. Maybe to minimize KOing or lowering the price even more? I yearn for the days when stuff was made in the USA like the early G.I. Joe playset and vehicles. Same with the Fisher Price vehicles (their figures were made in HK but the plastics smelled good and were very tough back then).
Didn't one of the Hb people interviewed a few weeks back say something about improving the hollowness of their products? Hopefully that includes improving the plastic quality. And, is it possible to dilute the plastic content to save on cost but also affecting the stress tolerance/quality of the plastic? Being expensive and all, I share DM's concerns too.
Posted by Evil Eye on May 21st, 2016 @ 11:05am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:Bronzewolf wrote:Can we all just sit for a minute and appreciate that there are a ton of good looking Transformers coming, (mostly) all with new molds? I mean, coming from Combined Wars(although that had it's moments), this is all like a breath of fresh air. You done did good, Has/Tak.
Assuming, of course, the plastic quality/QC/tolerances aren't total garbage. And given there's rumours the manufacturing got moved yet AGAIN, this time to India of all places...yeah. I await Titans Return with cautious optimism.
Ain't capitalism grand?Now Hb is moving to India. Maybe to minimize KOing or lowering the price even more? I yearn for the days when stuff was made in the USA like the early G.I. Joe playset and vehicles. Same with the Fisher Price vehicles (their figures were made in HK but the plastics smelled good and were very tough back then).
Didn't one of the Hb people interviewed a few weeks back say something about improving the hollowness of their products? Hopefully that includes improving the plastic quality. And, is it possible to dilute the plastic content to save on cost but also affecting the stress tolerance/quality of the plastic? Being expensive and all, I share DM's concerns too.
It'll undoubtedly be to get even cheaper labour. Chinese workers demanded better conditions and better pay, so they moved to Vietnam. Now the same is probably happening over there, and thus the move to India. Given what India is like I can't imagine the QC (or, ahem, cleanliness) of the figures will improve much.
Lord know where they'll go when India starts demanding better pay. Probably Brazil. Although given the way the world's going, with the US Election probably being a contest between Shillary "Hides government secrets in a private email account and lets Americans die in foreign territory" Clinton and Donald "Daemon Prince of Khorne" Trump, Europe becoming a socialist hellhole and the Middle East basically drowning in blood, we'll be lucky if we haven't all been reduced to ash by atomic fire by 2020.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 21st, 2016 @ 11:16am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:I'll take that Cyclonus, Scourge, and Sweeps picture as a ringing endorsement from TFYuki and Takara Tomy for using Unite Warriors Cyclonus as G1 "Classics" Cyclonus. I can hardly wait until Legends Galvatron and Scourge (and Titans Return Scourge for some Sweeps army building) are released!
Does it also endorse that Cyclonus' armada is the sweeps?
Nope! But, you can see Cyclonus' real Armada in the pics I posted recently in the Unite Warriors thread!
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 21st, 2016 @ 11:51am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:Bronzewolf wrote:Can we all just sit for a minute and appreciate that there are a ton of good looking Transformers coming, (mostly) all with new molds? I mean, coming from Combined Wars(although that had it's moments), this is all like a breath of fresh air. You done did good, Has/Tak.
Assuming, of course, the plastic quality/QC/tolerances aren't total garbage. And given there's rumours the manufacturing got moved yet AGAIN, this time to India of all places...yeah. I await Titans Return with cautious optimism.
Ain't capitalism grand?Now Hb is moving to India. Maybe to minimize KOing or lowering the price even more? I yearn for the days when stuff was made in the USA like the early G.I. Joe playset and vehicles. Same with the Fisher Price vehicles (their figures were made in HK but the plastics smelled good and were very tough back then).
Didn't one of the Hb people interviewed a few weeks back say something about improving the hollowness of their products? Hopefully that includes improving the plastic quality. And, is it possible to dilute the plastic content to save on cost but also affecting the stress tolerance/quality of the plastic? Being expensive and all, I share DM's concerns too.
Yeah, manufacturing returning to the U.S. would be great, but it's a pipe dream. But Hasbro's (relatively) good at listening to fans, so I wouldn't doubt they're at least trying to work on hollowness and quality. I hope the quality of the Titan's Return figures matches the quality of their looks.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 21st, 2016 @ 2:48pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2016 @ 9:52pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:I'll take that Cyclonus, Scourge, and Sweeps picture as a ringing endorsement from TFYuki and Takara Tomy for using Unite Warriors Cyclonus as G1 "Classics" Cyclonus. I can hardly wait until Legends Galvatron and Scourge (and Titans Return Scourge for some Sweeps army building) are released!
Does it also endorse that Cyclonus' armada is the sweeps?
Nope! But, you can see Cyclonus' real Armada in the pics I posted recently in the Unite Warriors thread!
Just pulling your tail Your pics are awesome. And plus, Cyclonus clealy had an armada for at least a moment:
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on May 21st, 2016 @ 9:53pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:I'll take that Cyclonus, Scourge, and Sweeps picture as a ringing endorsement from TFYuki and Takara Tomy for using Unite Warriors Cyclonus as G1 "Classics" Cyclonus. I can hardly wait until Legends Galvatron and Scourge (and Titans Return Scourge for some Sweeps army building) are released!
Does it also endorse that Cyclonus' armada is the sweeps?
Nope! But, you can see Cyclonus' real Armada in the pics I posted recently in the Unite Warriors thread!
Just pulling your tail Your pics are awesome. And plus, Cyclonus clealy had an armada for at least a moment:
Watch Five Faces of Darkness. There's several Dirge colored Cyclonuses in there.
Posted by Bumblebee21 on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:49pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:52pm CDT
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on May 21st, 2016 @ 11:29pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on May 22nd, 2016 @ 1:26am CDT
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 22nd, 2016 @ 8:25pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 23rd, 2016 @ 3:05pm CDT
As promised, I've got some comparison pics with the previous Takara Tomy releases of these molds. Unfortunately, I sold off my Hasbro versions a while back, so I don't have any in-hand comparison pictures with those versions. Note that for all comparison pictures below, the figure on the left is the original Takara Tomy release, while the figure on the right is the LG-EX release. Without further ado, though, here they are, starting with...
Rattrap is definitely the least changed of the three. The most obvious difference is that the rat's eyes are now black, to better match Rattrap's on-screen beast mode. There are a few other subtle differences, though. The plastic color for the "fleshy" parts of rattrap, like his paws, is slightly more saturated with pink in the LG-EX version. Likewise, the tan painted parts are every so slightly more saturated with orange. This is easiest to see on Rattrap's robot face and thighs. Finally, the red paint used for Rattrap's robot mouth and eyes is exactly the same shade on the LG-EX version, whereas the previous Transformers Legends release used a darker red for the eyes than the mouth. The matching reds, unsurprisingly, are more screen accurate. There doesn't seem to be much of a difference with the gray plastic used for the rat body of each figure, nor the brown fur highlights on their rumps. For me, the LG-EX version's colors just pop that much better. I switched the rat heads on my two figures to give the LG-EX version screen accurate red rat eyes for robot mode, which is the more important mode to me in terms of accuracy.
Waspinator has really stepped it up quite a bit with the LG-EX release. The "paint mask" (e.g., the paint operations layout) between both versions is basically identical. The only difference are with the plastic and paint colors, each being lighter, more saturated, and more accurate to Waspinator's screen appearance. The LG-EX release is missing most of the shiny metallic plastic and paint apps, going for a more glossy look instead. The light green, yellow, and medium browns match up extremely well with the original cartoon. The wings are exactly the same, giving a wonderful iridescent effect, like actual insect wings. There is ONE change to the paint mask between the two. The LG-EX version, like the show counterpart, has yellow and black striping on his robot mode head antennae. They are simply left plain gold on the earlier release.
Last, but certainly not least, we have Rhinox! I think Waspinator gets the "most improved" award, but Rhinox is certainly a contender for that accolade. The LG-EX beast skin is no longer metallic and shiny, going instead for a glossy look that's a bit more natural for an organic rhinoceros. The beast mode eyes are white with black pupils now, instead of just black, again matching the show character model that much better. The rubbery "rump" part on the back matches the harder plastic parts of the body much better now with the LG-EX release. The rhino horn and toe nails are also a slightly lighter shade or bronze now. For the robot mode, there are a few subtle differences that look fantastic, like painting the rhino gums pink. It really is a spectacular little detail to include this time around. Gone are the dark green paint apps on the robot mode forearms. Those were, I believe, a detail of the original toy, but doing without them is more show accurate. The coloring on the robot mode chest bits that flank the lower rhino jaw are also different. The original release paints those robot bits in gold with black trim, while the LG-EX version paints them the same green to match his other robot mode parts. Since these parts are an embellishment on the original show character model, the green technically is more "accurate" simply because it better blends in with the rest of the robot bits and can be overlooked.
Here's a look at the boxes these guys came in:
These boxes are no-frills. Obviously, they are in black in white, which is a common trope for Takara Tomy exclusive figures. Inside, each figure is wrapped in a plastic baggy and secured in the box with a simple cardboard framework. It's basically a folded sheet or cardboard with holes in a few places where each figure is just kinda "crammed" in. Waspinator and Rhinox are boxed in robot mode, for the most part, while Rattrap is boxed in beast mode. Also, of note, apparently Rattrap, according to the box, is an Autobot! Rhinox is properly identified as a Maximal and Waspinator as a Predacon, however. Check the second pic with the "LG-EX" labels. Rattrap is also the victim of some bad Romanization, being named "Rattorp" on the front of his box. Oops! He's correctly named "Rattrap" in the instructions, however.
Thanks for taking a look. If anyone interested in these LG-EX Beast Wars figures has any questions for me, I'll be happy to answer them!
Posted by megatronus on May 23rd, 2016 @ 3:50pm CDT
Where did you order these guys from?
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on May 23rd, 2016 @ 3:57pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 23rd, 2016 @ 4:56pm CDT
megatronus wrote:Thanks for the awesome comparison!
Where did you order these guys from?
I found these on eBay. $40 a piece for Rattrap and Waspinator. $60 for Rhinox. Not bad at all for exclusives, honestly. Far better prices than you would find for equivalent figures at the TFCC, that's for sure. Robot Kingdom has these in stock now too, I believe. Their prices are about $5 cheaper, but you might pay a bit more in shipping.
Posted by shajaki on May 23rd, 2016 @ 5:00pm CDT
My LG-EX Beast Wars figures arrived this morning!
As promised, I've got some comparison pics with the previous Takara Tomy releases of these molds. Unfortunately, I sold off my Hasbro versions a while back, so I don't have any in-hand comparison pictures with those versions. Note that for all comparison pictures below, the figure on the left is the original Takara Tomy release, while the figure on the right is the LG-EX release. Without further ado, though, here they are, starting with...
Rattrap is definitely the least changed of the three. The most obvious difference is that the rat's eyes are now black, to better match Rattrap's on-screen beast mode. There are a few other subtle differences, though. The plastic color for the "fleshy" parts of rattrap, like his paws, is slightly more saturated with pink in the LG-EX version. Likewise, the tan painted parts are every so slightly more saturated with orange. This is easiest to see on Rattrap's robot face and thighs. Finally, the red paint used for Rattrap's robot mouth and eyes is exactly the same shade on the LG-EX version, whereas the previous Transformers Legends release used a darker red for the eyes than the mouth. The matching reds, unsurprisingly, are more screen accurate. There doesn't seem to be much of a difference with the gray plastic used for the rat body of each figure, nor the brown fur highlights on their rumps. For me, the LG-EX version's colors just pop that much better. I switched the rat heads on my two figures to give the LG-EX version screen accurate red rat eyes for robot mode, which is the more important mode to me in terms of accuracy.
Waspinator has really stepped it up quite a bit with the LG-EX release. The "paint mask" (e.g., the paint operations layout) between both versions is basically identical. The only difference are with the plastic and paint colors, each being lighter, more saturated, and more accurate to Waspinator's screen appearance. The LG-EX release is missing most of the shiny metallic plastic and paint apps, going for a more glossy look instead. The light green, yellow, and medium browns match up extremely well with the original cartoon. The wings are exactly the same, giving a wonderful iridescent effect, like actual insect wings. There is ONE change to the paint mask between the two. The LG-EX version, like the show counterpart, has yellow and black striping on his robot mode head antennae. They are simply left plain gold on the earlier release.
Last, but certainly not least, we have Rhinox! I think Waspinator gets the "most improved" award, but Rhinox is certainly a contender for that accolade. The LG-EX beast skin is no longer metallic and shiny, going instead for a glossy look that's a bit more natural for an organic rhinoceros. The beast mode eyes are white with black pupils now, instead of just black, again matching the show character model that much better. The rubbery "rump" part on the back matches the harder plastic parts of the body much better now with the LG-EX release. The rhino horn and toe nails are also a slightly lighter shade or bronze now. For the robot mode, there are a few subtle differences that look fantastic, like painting the rhino gums pink. It really is a spectacular little detail to include this time around. Gone are the dark green paint apps on the robot mode forearms. Those were, I believe, a detail of the original toy, but doing without them is more show accurate. The coloring on the robot mode chest bits that flank the lower rhino jaw are also different. The original release paints those robot bits in gold with black trim, while the LG-EX version paints them the same green to match his other robot mode parts. Since these parts are an embellishment on the original show character model, the green technically is more "accurate" simply because it better blends in with the rest of the robot bits and can be overlooked.
Here's a look at the boxes these guys came in:
These boxes are no-frills. Obviously, they are in black in white, which is a common trope for Takara Tomy exclusive figures. Inside, each figure is wrapped in a plastic baggy and secured in the box with a simple cardboard framework. It's basically a folded sheet or cardboard with holes in a few places where each figure is just kinda "crammed" in. Waspinator and Rhinox are boxed in robot mode, for the most part, while Rattrap is boxed in beast mode. Also, of note, apparently Rattrap, according to the box, is an Autobot! Rhinox is properly identified as a Maximal and Waspinator as a Predacon, however. Check the second pic with the "LG-EX" labels. Rattrap is also the victim of some bad Romanization, being named "Rattorp" on the front of his box. Oops! He's correctly named "Rattrap" in the instructions, however.
Thanks for taking a look. If anyone interested in these LG-EX Beast Wars figures has any questions for me, I'll be happy to answer them!
Posted by shajaki on May 23rd, 2016 @ 6:02pm CDT
There's so little changed with Rattrap that I can skip him completely, but the other two warrant purchase (I can replace Bronzenox). When I'll divert funds in this direction, who knows
Posted by StellaMiniCon on May 23rd, 2016 @ 6:55pm CDT
Any chance you could take some quick snaps of the comic?
Posted by Sabrblade on May 23rd, 2016 @ 7:50pm CDT
Oh, snap, yes please! Full pics of each's comic would be very much appreciated.StellaMiniCon wrote:Good pictures!
Any chance you could take some quick snaps of the comic?
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 23rd, 2016 @ 8:42pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Oh, snap, yes please! Full pics of each's comic would be very much appreciated.StellaMiniCon wrote:Good pictures!
Any chance you could take some quick snaps of the comic?
I'll try. I might not be able to get to that until tomorrow evening, though. My work schedule is weird this week. I'll be getting off at 12:30 AM and coming back in at 11:00 AM. That leaves little time for much else than sleep.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 23rd, 2016 @ 8:45pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 23rd, 2016 @ 9:01pm CDT
You'd be doing a great service to the fandom, but let your body have its rest.Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Oh, snap, yes please! Full pics of each's comic would be very much appreciated.StellaMiniCon wrote:Good pictures!
Any chance you could take some quick snaps of the comic?
I'll try. I might not be able to get to that until tomorrow evening, though. My work schedule is weird this week. I'll be getting off at 12:30 AM and coming back in at 11:00 AM. That leaves little time for much else than sleep.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 23rd, 2016 @ 10:12pm CDT
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on May 24th, 2016 @ 12:06am CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 24th, 2016 @ 12:15am CDT
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Missed out on these guys while they were still available in stores ... Looks like Takara is going to be the cheapest option.
I'd pounce on them sooner rather than later. LG-EX Rhinox and Waspinator are the best versions of those molds you can get, IMO. If you can find Transformers Legends LG-01 Rattrap for less than his LG-EX version, you could go that route, especially if you want the robot mode accurate red rat eyes.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 24th, 2016 @ 1:08am CDT
LG-EX Waspinator/Waspeeter
LG-EX Rhinox/...Rhinox!
Thanks are due to Sabrblade for suggesting I take some pics of these comic pages.
Would some kind soul be willing to translate these, or at least give us a synopsis of the goings on?
Posted by dragons on May 24th, 2016 @ 6:36am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on May 24th, 2016 @ 7:41am CDT
Posted by megatronus on May 24th, 2016 @ 9:23am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Yeah, is it just me, or these LGEX redecos are closer to the Hasbro decos?
They're closer to Hasbro just by virtue of being matte, but beyond that?
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2016 @ 10:13am CDT
You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. The Wiki will return your kindness with synopses in due time.Wolfman Jake wrote:Would some kind soul be willing to translate these, or at least give us a synopsis of the goings on?
Posted by Mr Skram on May 24th, 2016 @ 10:32am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on May 24th, 2016 @ 12:39pm CDT
megatronus wrote:william-james88 wrote:Yeah, is it just me, or these LGEX redecos are closer to the Hasbro decos?
They're closer to Hasbro just by virtue of being matte, but beyond that?
Well it is more. Because the whole deal with Rattrap was that the Takara version had red eyes. The rest was similar aside from the head (right?) so having the eyes be black makes it far closer to the Hasbro version.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2016 @ 12:53pm CDT
Hasbro Rattrap and Takara Rattrap have a number of differences between the two besides the rat eye color - http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-2356.htmlwilliam-james88 wrote:megatronus wrote:william-james88 wrote:Yeah, is it just me, or these LGEX redecos are closer to the Hasbro decos?
They're closer to Hasbro just by virtue of being matte, but beyond that?
Well it is more. Because the whole deal with Rattrap was that the Takara version had red eyes. The rest was similar aside from the head (right?) so having the eyes be black makes it far closer to the Hasbro version.
Posted by william-james88 on May 24th, 2016 @ 1:02pm CDT
Posted by Hero Alpha on May 24th, 2016 @ 5:33pm CDT
Mr Skram wrote:I got the 10 day notice from BBTS for Legends Skids! So pumped I'll get to ship out my pile of loot!
Same here, I'm pretty pumped to finally get the Legends Skids. Got my Hasbro one with Reprolabels on ebay.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 25th, 2016 @ 12:20pm CDT