First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus

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Australian Transformers fan Nathan sent us some amazing pictures of the Titans Return Fortress Maximus toy he picked up locally. He also offered us a written review. Enjoy:

TF Fan Nathan wrote:I'll be real metroplex is the better toy, there's too much of him in Fort Max's design and it hurts the quality, playability and makes you feel like your transforming him wrong a lot of the time.

I really thought fort max was gonna have more guns, he doesn't even have the wrist gun that metroplex has. The back of the hand guns I can kinda forgive but when metroplex already had the gun? Weird choice hasbro.
Also I would gladly sacrifice the sounds in base mode to be able to have those hip guns. He just looks and feels a lot smaller than metroplex. For a guy called Fortress Maximus, I'm not getting that from his toy. The original had way more features in base mode than his updated counterpart.

Cerebros's shoulders are held in by two small tabs that pop out constantly due the rest of the joints being too tight I'm already starting to get some stress marks in the plastic and I got him yesterday.

I love this toy because I love the character and the line that he's going to be a part of and I was always a headmasters fan, it's just to me this whole figure screams missed opportunity. He's a great toy but when compared to metroplex comes up short in all three modes.

Credit(s): Transformers Fan Nathan

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Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791331)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 20th, 2016 @ 11:14pm CDT

'Missed opportunity' seems to pretty much summarize this guy quite succinctly - shame, the character deserved so much more >:oP

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791333)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 20th, 2016 @ 11:25pm CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:'Missed opportunity' seems to pretty much summarize this guy quite succinctly - shame, the character deserved so much more

Let's all just hope that Takara has something great up its sleeve for their release of Fort Max in September. We still haven't seen the Master Sword, that we KNOW is coming, so perhaps there are a few more nice little touches we have yet to see from them?

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791335)
Posted by Mindmaster on May 21st, 2016 @ 12:03am CDT

Going to wait and see what the SDCC version has up its figurative sleeve before making a concrete decision. If he doesn't seem to have any other improvements, I'll stick with the standard release. Not that interested in Takara's release for some reason.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791337)
Posted by Mr Skram on May 21st, 2016 @ 12:55am CDT

Kinda sounds like a bummer, but would anyone think it might be worth it for someone who doesn't have Metroplex yet?

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791340)
Posted by Black Bumblebee on May 21st, 2016 @ 1:18am CDT

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. For the price, it just doesn't have what the original G1 Fort Max had. If you're willing to pay the money for this, just put a bit extra in, and buy the reissue of the G1 Fort Max. That figure had so much play factor built into it.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791341)
Posted by Rainmaker on May 21st, 2016 @ 1:27am CDT

This still won't kill my joy for getting Fortress Maximus.

:MAXIMAL:

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791344)
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on May 21st, 2016 @ 2:08am CDT

Mr Skram wrote:Kinda sounds like a bummer, but would anyone think it might be worth it for someone who doesn't have Metroplex yet?

I skipped Metroplex because the only thing it had going for it was how big it was. The city mode just looks like a splayed out robot, and the land cruiser thing just looks like he's doing light yoga. Fort Max looks like the better figure to me, the city mode actually looks like buildings and roads instead of just a splayed out robot, and the cruiser hides the robot features a lot better. That review wasn't really any good to be honest. The only information I got was he wanted more guns on it, which is totally subjective.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791345)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 21st, 2016 @ 2:29am CDT

In this day and age, having more guns to be truer to the original but it would of shot the price up, by how much is unknown. The question is, would people pay the extra price? And would parents pay the extra?

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791357)
Posted by Kurona on May 21st, 2016 @ 3:08am CDT

So... he's not taller than Metroplex?

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791363)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 21st, 2016 @ 5:11am CDT

As a owner of Gen Metroplex and G1 Encore Fortmax, I don't feel the need at all to own the TR version. I mean, Fortmax 2.0 transform even less than Metroplex! While Metroplex sat down and made an effort, TR Fortmax just pass out drunk on the ground. Pathetic. Especially compared to the G1 original. The original toy will NEVER be beaten unless Takara decide to make a 1000$ MP.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791364)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 21st, 2016 @ 5:16am CDT

Mr Skram wrote:Kinda sounds like a bummer, but would anyone think it might be worth it for someone who doesn't have Metroplex yet?

If you have neither or Gen Metroplex nor G1 Fortmax, I say it would be better to double the money you are prepared to pay and go for Encore G1 Formax. They made way too many of him and he's been in clearance since about a year. He would cost around 300$US shipped for Canadians and Americans. If you can only afford or just want to pay 150$ max, got for the TR version. Either way, having a huge bot in a TF collection is always a good thing.

However, your money will defenitely be better spendt on the long run with Encore-23 Fortress Maximus.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791365)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 21st, 2016 @ 5:53am CDT

Ehhhhhh no. Honestly, I may very well just save up and try and track down the reissue + PE Warden. G1 Max may be a brick but he's so loaded with play features it doesn't really matter. Also, the G1 figure's city mode knocks the TR figure into a cocked hat. That thing looked like a fortress.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791372)
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2016 @ 7:13am CDT

Mr Skram wrote:Kinda sounds like a bummer, but would anyone think it might be worth it for someone who doesn't have Metroplex yet?

I say yes, but wait for the eventual price reduction (like 20%). He sadly doesnt have the same functionality as Metroplex even though they use the same mold. Here is what Nathan wrote to me about how his legs still open:

they do open up but from underneath so its that back half that opens out not the gun half, means they don't really work in vehicle or base mode. hes really just lacking from not enough guns, i forgot to say the shin guns dettach and can go on his shoulder or have a fold out handle but they dont show that feature in the instructions. still dont know what that lil leg bit is meant to do though, its hollow and weird.

Black Bumblebee wrote:I've said it before, and I'll say it again. For the price, it just doesn't have what the original G1 Fort Max had. If you're willing to pay the money for this, just put a bit extra in, and buy the reissue of the G1 Fort Max. That figure had so much play factor built into it.

Yup. I just got CW Skylynx yesterday and thats another figure who's original version has a totally different kind of playability that makes it still as relevant to own as ever. What you wrote is something I totally stand by and something I did when I saw this new fort max. For 100$ more, you get one of the greatest TF toys of all time.

Kurona wrote:So... he's not taller than Metroplex?

Thats a major bummer, he also seems much smaller in width.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791374)
Posted by Roninx35 on May 21st, 2016 @ 7:40am CDT

I guess they left the arm gun out due to parts count. The remolded the panel also.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791378)
Posted by SureShot18 on May 21st, 2016 @ 7:58am CDT

I think I'll hold out and wait until Trypticon is released and they get around to Omega Supreme. I have higher hopes for those two, they can be my big robits

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791379)
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2016 @ 8:17am CDT

SureShot18 wrote:I think I'll hold out and wait until Trypticon is released and they get around to Omega Supreme. I have higher hopes for those two, they can be my big robits

Or you can do what I plan on doing and just wait and see how low this goes down in price. Would you say no to this toy for 75$? You would be surprised how good a deal you can get if you dont get things right away: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ale/35409/

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791383)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 21st, 2016 @ 8:52am CDT

Wait for the TT version. New head for Fortress. Anime paint apps. Master sword/swords(?). Japanese voice clips and uhhhhhhhh working elevator (nope, that was in G1). 360 degree rotating radar dish (nope, that was in G1). Cog (Gasket and Grommet), nope (that was in G1). Twin Tower photon rifles,nope (again in G1). Tech spec meter built in (so is there a tech spec meter here?) Tilt/gravity position vehicle/inertia powered vehicle launchers! Nope, again in G1 figure.

OKAY! G1 version despite being a brick still knocks the new version by lightyears :lol:

Blunt force trauma object!.................I think the G1 version still wins in that criteria 8-}

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791396)
Posted by Starsaber468 on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:51am CDT

So.... I guess we can confirm that the sound gimmick for fort max being able to play the headmaster op (fort takara verison and it seems theres one in the hasbro verison too) is placed in celebros chest cause it seems that theres a sound gimmick in his chest.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791399)
Posted by Sharkticon Soup on May 21st, 2016 @ 11:14am CDT

Anyone know if the knee joints are any better/stronger on Fort Max than they were on Metroplex?

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791415)
Posted by dragons on May 21st, 2016 @ 12:29pm CDT

Expected video review first not pictures video reviews don't have to be fancy and funny we all know what articulation is like thanks for pictures but I would have waited few more days to see video first compared to pictures

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791418)
Posted by Microraptor on May 21st, 2016 @ 12:41pm CDT

I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791421)
Posted by Kurona on May 21st, 2016 @ 12:54pm CDT

Microraptor wrote:I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Well, I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark here... but I think the use he'd have for a sword would be killing things.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791441)
Posted by SureShot18 on May 21st, 2016 @ 2:20pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
SureShot18 wrote:I think I'll hold out and wait until Trypticon is released and they get around to Omega Supreme. I have higher hopes for those two, they can be my big robits

Or you can do what I plan on doing and just wait and see how low this goes down in price. Would you say no to this toy for 75$? You would be surprised how good a deal you can get if you dont get things right away: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ale/35409/

When you're a teenager 9 times out of 10 you have no money when those epic sales come around.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791457)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 21st, 2016 @ 3:05pm CDT

SureShot18 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
SureShot18 wrote:I think I'll hold out and wait until Trypticon is released and they get around to Omega Supreme. I have higher hopes for those two, they can be my big robits

Or you can do what I plan on doing and just wait and see how low this goes down in price. Would you say no to this toy for 75$? You would be surprised how good a deal you can get if you dont get things right away: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ale/35409/

When you're a teenager 9 times out of 10 you have no money when those epic sales come around.

As an adult, it's not nessessarily better. Real life is pretty costly and very often, money must go elsewhere than into toys.

At least as a teen who (normally) live with his parents, you can get any Mc jobs to just pay for fun things without having to worry about food, rent, and other bullcrap life throw your way.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791465)
Posted by King Kuuga on May 21st, 2016 @ 3:43pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:So... he's not taller than Metroplex?

Thats a major bummer, he also seems much smaller in width.

Did you guys even look at the pictures? He's clearly taller than Metroplex.

He's not taller than Metroplex's shoulder guns but if you expected that he would be, I don't know what to tell you. They were always going to be the same height from toe to neck, it was the size of the head that would make the difference, and Plex gets to cheat on his height by having some long guns sticking straight up out of his shoulders.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791470)
Posted by Kurona on May 21st, 2016 @ 4:15pm CDT

That Bot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:So... he's not taller than Metroplex?

Thats a major bummer, he also seems much smaller in width.

Did you guys even look at the pictures? He's clearly taller than Metroplex.

He's not taller than Metroplex's shoulder guns but if you expected that he would be, I don't know what to tell you. They were always going to be the same height from toe to neck, it was the size of the head that would make the difference, and Plex gets to cheat on his height by having some long guns sticking straight up out of his shoulders.

It's a pretty hard call either way - the only thing that would make one taller than the other is the head and they're really close. Depending on how you look at it one can look like it has that slight edge over the other.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791471)
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2016 @ 4:23pm CDT

SureShot18 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
SureShot18 wrote:I think I'll hold out and wait until Trypticon is released and they get around to Omega Supreme. I have higher hopes for those two, they can be my big robits

Or you can do what I plan on doing and just wait and see how low this goes down in price. Would you say no to this toy for 75$? You would be surprised how good a deal you can get if you dont get things right away: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ale/35409/

When you're a teenager 9 times out of 10 you have no money when those epic sales come around.

Thats why toi put thé Monet s'est for qu'en Rudy come. Be or christmas or tout birthday, just take 75$ Abd put it aside

Edit: :lol:

My phone was on french autocorrect. Here is what I said:

Thats why its best to just put what little money you have aside. Be it christmas (or any other holiday celebration) or your birthday, just put 75$ aside. Like instead of buying the latest call of duty, just put that money aside. And then within a year wait for one of these sales. If it never happens, thats fine you still have 75$ and you dont feel like you missed out on anything.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791475)
Posted by Microraptor on May 21st, 2016 @ 4:30pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
Microraptor wrote:I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Well, I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark here... but I think the use he'd have for a sword would be killing things.

Killing what? Mountains? Giving a city-sized robot an edged weapon to use is only efficient if you want half of your own troops obliterated.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791476)
Posted by Autobot N on May 21st, 2016 @ 4:32pm CDT

dragons wrote:Expected video review first not pictures video reviews don't have to be fancy and funny we all know what articulation is like thanks for pictures but I would have waited few more days to see video first compared to pictures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791479)
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2016 @ 4:50pm CDT

Autobot N wrote:
dragons wrote:Expected video review first not pictures video reviews don't have to be fancy and funny we all know what articulation is like thanks for pictures but I would have waited few more days to see video first compared to pictures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

He<s not typing, he is using a voice recognition software.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791480)
Posted by Burn on May 21st, 2016 @ 4:51pm CDT

Autobot N wrote:
dragons wrote:Expected video review first not pictures video reviews don't have to be fancy and funny we all know what articulation is like thanks for pictures but I would have waited few more days to see video first compared to pictures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

Thank you for this incredibly substantial post that truly contributed to the discussion.
Please do not criticise others for their use of the English language, not everyone can be an obvious literary scholar like yourself.
Oh, and please keep to the topic at hand.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791487)
Posted by Kurona on May 21st, 2016 @ 5:12pm CDT

Microraptor wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Microraptor wrote:I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Well, I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark here... but I think the use he'd have for a sword would be killing things.

Killing what? Mountains? Giving a city-sized robot an edged weapon to use is only efficient if you want half of your own troops obliterated.

Well, there's this guy called Scorponok.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791491)
Posted by Collector Canine on May 21st, 2016 @ 5:26pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
Microraptor wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Microraptor wrote:I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Well, I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark here... but I think the use he'd have for a sword would be killing things.

Killing what? Mountains? Giving a city-sized robot an edged weapon to use is only efficient if you want half of your own troops obliterated.

Well, there's this guy called Scorponok.

Speaking of that guy called Scorponok, I think they should be making a Titan Class figure of him before Trypticon. I'm more of a Fort Max and Scorponok fan than a Metroplex and Trypticon fan. I'm still kinda bitter that Trypticon won the fan vote over Scorponok. (I'm not sure if that was on-topic or not....)

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791493)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 21st, 2016 @ 5:31pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
Microraptor wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Microraptor wrote:I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Well, I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark here... but I think the use he'd have for a sword would be killing things.

Killing what? Mountains? Giving a city-sized robot an edged weapon to use is only efficient if you want half of your own troops obliterated.

Well, there's this guy called Scorponok.

Yup. Used on Megazarak aka Scorponok (the JP name in G1). The Master sword was used as a last resort in the JP universe as it causes a massive energy drain on Fortress (even his assumption of his "maximus" mode was such a drain on Fortress)

My other post btw on what the G1 had over the latest wasn't an indictment of the current version. Just a 8-}

comparison. Will still get this (or should we say, the JP version)

I hope fans will support this else Hb might abandon future Cityformer projects if the sales don't add up.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791494)
Posted by SureShot18 on May 21st, 2016 @ 5:35pm CDT

@Kanrabat Yeah I realize that it just seems that some adults are able to splurge more. Believe me I dread the day when I need to worry about all of the adult responsibilities. At least the money is there, maybe not for buying luxuries like Transformers but at least it's there.

@williamjames88 I wondered what was going on with the French. :lol:

That's a great plan. However my collecting is split between Transformers, Marvel Legends, Lego, and Star Wars, so there's usually new product available at all times that I want, not including backtracking. And frankly I'm not the biggest fan of Max so he probably wouldn't take priority.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791498)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 21st, 2016 @ 5:43pm CDT

SureShot18 wrote:@Kanrabat Yeah I realize that it just seems that some adults are able to splurge more. Believe me I dread the day when I need to worry about all of the adult responsibilities. At least the money is there, maybe not for buying luxuries like Transformers but at least it's there.

@williamjames88 I wondered what was going on with the French. That's a great plan. However my collecting is split between Transformers, Marvel Legends, Lego, and Star Wars, so there's usually new product available at all times that I want, not including backtracking. And frankly I'm not the biggest fan of Max so he probably wouldn't take priority.

Not even the G1 original? Because it's a GREAT thing to have in any TF collection. Try to save/beg as much as you can to get one at clearance price while it's still available. It will be worth every hard earned cents.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791499)
Posted by Microraptor on May 21st, 2016 @ 5:54pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
Microraptor wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Microraptor wrote:I don't understand the gun complaints. One, he's so massive he shouldn't need guns because he stomps entire armies with a single mighty stomp. Two, there probably wasn't enough room for the budget on account of the deluxe-scaled Cerebro. I mean let's face it, Cerebros is a bit more important to Fort Max than a bunch of superfluous guns.

And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

Well, I'm gonna take a wild shot in the dark here... but I think the use he'd have for a sword would be killing things.

Killing what? Mountains? Giving a city-sized robot an edged weapon to use is only efficient if you want half of your own troops obliterated.

Well, there's this guy called Scorponok.

Who has a gun. And what would be smarter: using roughly 10k tons of metal to make a skyscraper-sized sword to be used on ONE thing by ONE guy, or using it to outfit every single troop in your army a kick-aft laser rifle?

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791503)
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2016 @ 6:09pm CDT

SureShot18 wrote:@williamjames88 I wondered what was going on with the French. That's a great plan. However my collecting is split between Transformers, Marvel Legends, Lego, and Star Wars, so there's usually new product available at all times that I want, not including backtracking. And frankly I'm not the biggest fan of Max so he probably wouldn't take priority.

I see. I only collect TFs so my budget can be entirely spent on... my wife and daughter. And the scraps are for TFs. So what I do is make sure that every cent counts. I never buy stuff as soon as it is out unless it is on sale. I always wait for a sale and save up (unless its Takara, in that case its best to preorder). And I price match. And if I buy something, I keep my bill because with TRU (in canada) I am able to get my missed savings back if a toy I bought goes on sale within 45 days of a purchase.
The states has cool options too. Amazon often has amazing deals and you can use that to price match at other places if I am not mistaken. Plus, you can get the latest toys at Hasbro Toy Shop with free shipping and discounted with their monthly offer codes.

So there are lots of options to save money, you just have to be vigilant.

But yes, I do fully agree that this Fort Max doesnt seem to trigger the same necessity Devastator did. That is a nice chunk of change I am sure you could spend on some nice Marvel Legends

I am just waiting for him to be 50$ at Costco. So far, it never failed for the titan class.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791516)
Posted by EagleBot13 on May 21st, 2016 @ 9:08pm CDT

Just noticed that the ramps hanging off the back of the arms on Fort Max are the exact same ramps that fold out of the legs on Metroplex. This really bugs me for some reason.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791520)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 21st, 2016 @ 9:33pm CDT

EagleBot13 wrote:Just noticed that the ramps hanging off the back of the arms on Fort Max are the exact same ramps that fold out of the legs on Metroplex. This really bugs me for some reason.

Why? They share some of the base mold designs.

In the long run......to all FANS

Please continue supporting the Cityformer class line of Titans Returns/Legends

If you drop your support, this disincentivizes Hasbro and TT from releasing more lines of this class.

Don't let one input scare you from getting this.

Though each one of us want to get a bargain but if you wait for the product to fall in price first instead of getting it at it's original price.......same reason from my bold post............no more Cityformers.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791524)
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2016 @ 9:47pm CDT

fenrir72 wrote:Though each one of us want to get a bargain but if you wait for the product to fall in price first instead of getting it at it's original price.......same reason from my bold post............no more Cityformers.

I dont agree with this at all. We are not all made of money. We will not buy anything because we have to. If companies want to survive they have to evolve to produce what people will buy. If we vote with our wallets and all decide not to buy this giant retool, then they will find more innovative ways to give us products we would buy. Thats how it works. Blindly buying only encourages more mediocrity. Look at the Michael Bay live action movies for proof of this. They dont care what we think about them, they only care if we buy the ticket and so far, everyone still does, so they dont have to change anything.

And plus Hasbro already planned the budget for the next 2-3 years of titan class figures, so if this one doesnt work out, they can hope the next one is recieved better.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791537)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:36pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Though each one of us want to get a bargain but if you wait for the product to fall in price first instead of getting it at it's original price.......same reason from my bold post............no more Cityformers.

I dont agree with this at all. We are not all made of money. We will not buy anything because we have to. If companies want to survive they have to evolve to produce what people will buy. If we vote with our wallets and all decide not to buy this giant retool, then they will find more innovative ways to give us products we would buy. Thats how it works. Blindly buying only encourages more mediocrity. Look at the Michael Bay live action movies for proof of this. They dont care what we think about them, they only care if we buy the ticket and so far, everyone still does, so they dont have to change anything.

And plus Hasbro already planned the budget for the next 2-3 years of titan class figures, so if this one doesnt work out, they can hope the next one is recieved better.

And if the line isn't successful, the next stockholder meeting can pull the plug on the Cityformer class.

This is reality. Multinational conglomerates depends on the "brand loyalty". Sometimes it may be blind but it's the number of "blind"suckers......consumers that makes or breaks a product. The so called planned budget you mentioned for the next 2 to 3 years is fickle. Depends on how the "critical mass" was reached. If it reached good (sale target reached), then the budget stands if not, companies will "ax us".

Then we hear complaints like why was TFA Omega Supreme wasn't released? Then we hear complaints why 3rd party companies are raeping Hb's IP. Why doesn't Hb take risks with lines like Cityformers etc etc?

Plain and simple.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791545)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:48pm CDT

fenrir72 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Though each one of us want to get a bargain but if you wait for the product to fall in price first instead of getting it at it's original price.......same reason from my bold post............no more Cityformers.

I dont agree with this at all. We are not all made of money. We will not buy anything because we have to. If companies want to survive they have to evolve to produce what people will buy. If we vote with our wallets and all decide not to buy this giant retool, then they will find more innovative ways to give us products we would buy. Thats how it works. Blindly buying only encourages more mediocrity. Look at the Michael Bay live action movies for proof of this. They dont care what we think about them, they only care if we buy the ticket and so far, everyone still does, so they dont have to change anything.

And plus Hasbro already planned the budget for the next 2-3 years of titan class figures, so if this one doesnt work out, they can hope the next one is recieved better.

And if the line isn't successful, the next stockholder meeting can pull the plug on the Cityformer class.

This is reality. Multinational conglomerates depends on the "brand loyalty". Sometimes it may be blind but it's the number of "blind"suckers......consumers that makes or breaks a product. The so called planned budget you mentioned for the next 2 to 3 years is fickle. Depends on how the "critical mass" was reached. If it reached good (sale target reached), then the budget stands if not, companies will "ax us".

Then we hear complaints like why was TFA Omega Supreme wasn't released? Then we hear complaints why 3rd party companies are raeping Hb's IP. Why doesn't Hb take risks with lines like Cityformers etc etc?

Plain and simple.

That's cool and all, and if you're happy with it, then more power to you, but I don't think that I'm alone in thinking that hasbro could do more than this. They've gotten noticeably stingy on both paint apps and quality plastic of late, and I don't think that I'm alone in thinking that we deserve at least a little better for how much more we're paying for figures nowadays. Now, maybe you don't agree with me on this sentiment, but there's absolutely nothing that you can say to change my experiences that have led me here. Either way, enjoy your Fort Max.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791548)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:51pm CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Though each one of us want to get a bargain but if you wait for the product to fall in price first instead of getting it at it's original price.......same reason from my bold post............no more Cityformers.

I dont agree with this at all. We are not all made of money. We will not buy anything because we have to. If companies want to survive they have to evolve to produce what people will buy. If we vote with our wallets and all decide not to buy this giant retool, then they will find more innovative ways to give us products we would buy. Thats how it works. Blindly buying only encourages more mediocrity. Look at the Michael Bay live action movies for proof of this. They dont care what we think about them, they only care if we buy the ticket and so far, everyone still does, so they dont have to change anything.

And plus Hasbro already planned the budget for the next 2-3 years of titan class figures, so if this one doesnt work out, they can hope the next one is recieved better.

And if the line isn't successful, the next stockholder meeting can pull the plug on the Cityformer class.

This is reality. Multinational conglomerates depends on the "brand loyalty". Sometimes it may be blind but it's the number of "blind"suckers......consumers that makes or breaks a product. The so called planned budget you mentioned for the next 2 to 3 years is fickle. Depends on how the "critical mass" was reached. If it reached good (sale target reached), then the budget stands if not, companies will "ax us".

Then we hear complaints like why was TFA Omega Supreme wasn't released? Then we hear complaints why 3rd party companies are raeping Hb's IP. Why doesn't Hb take risks with lines like Cityformers etc etc?

Plain and simple.

That's cool and all, and if you're happy with it, then more power to you, but I don't think that I'm alone in thinking that hasbro could do more than this. They've gotten noticeably stingy on both paint apps and quality plastic of late, and I don't think that I'm alone in thinking that we deserve at least a little better for how much more we're paying for figures nowadays. Now, maybe you don't agree with me on this sentiment, but there's absolutely nothing that you can say to change my experiences that have led me here. Either way, enjoy your Fort Max.

Then that's minus one fan. One less sale for Hb. So hopefully ten more will take your place (or else Hb will "ax us"). And I'm getting the TT version btw. Plenty of time to save. More time to enjoy him.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791549)
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:52pm CDT

fenrir72 wrote:Then we hear complaints like why was TFA Omega Supreme wasn't released? Then we hear complaints why 3rd party companies are raeping Hb's IP. Why doesn't Hb take risks with lines like Cityformers etc etc?

Plain and simple.

Here is the deal, fans just have to decide if they would rather have city formers they dislike or have no city formers at all. Me, if my options were to either spend 150$ on a city former I did not feel was worth it or not get a city former, I would rather just not get one.

Then high quality TFs could be just a Takara thing. Oh wait, thats th case right now. Yeah, not worried >:oP

I am voting with my wallet and encourage everyone else to do so. If you dont like something you dont need to buy it. Or simply not at full price >:oP

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791554)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:55pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:Then high quality TFs could be just a Takara thing. Oh wait, thats the case right now.

This. This is the whole point, habsro doesn't give us (many) figures that could be considered 'high quality' anymore, and that's my whole problem with all of this (though TT is far from perfect in my eyes despite this) Why should I pay, and encourage them giving us substandard figures, when I could pay the same amount for a far better figure?

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791557)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 21st, 2016 @ 10:59pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Then we hear complaints like why was TFA Omega Supreme wasn't released? Then we hear complaints why 3rd party companies are raeping Hb's IP. Why doesn't Hb take risks with lines like Cityformers etc etc?

Plain and simple.

Here is the deal, fans just have to decide if they would rather have city formers they dislike or have no city formers at all. Me, if my options were to either spend 150$ on a city former I did not feel was worth it or not get a city former, I would rather just not get one.

Then high quality TFs could be just a Takara thing. Oh wait, thats th case right now. Yeah, not worried I am voting with my wallet and encourage everyone else to do so. If you dont like something you dont need to buy it. Or simply not at full price

Same answer. Hopefully, with minus two lost potential customers, 10 more will take the place. To ensure the survival of the line.For those unable to get the Encore, can get and enjoy this Fortmax

No critical mass sale, no more line. I also raised a similar point with "naked" Metroplex and Legends Metroflex. Were the sales good enough to reach critical mass that we now have this next batch of Cityformers?

Just looking into the bigger picture in the future. I hope and pray the Cityformer release will be encouraging enough for Hb to really release Trypticon.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791561)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 21st, 2016 @ 11:03pm CDT

fenrir72 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Then we hear complaints like why was TFA Omega Supreme wasn't released? Then we hear complaints why 3rd party companies are raeping Hb's IP. Why doesn't Hb take risks with lines like Cityformers etc etc?

Plain and simple.

Here is the deal, fans just have to decide if they would rather have city formers they dislike or have no city formers at all. Me, if my options were to either spend 150$ on a city former I did not feel was worth it or not get a city former, I would rather just not get one.

Then high quality TFs could be just a Takara thing. Oh wait, thats th case right now. Yeah, not worried I am voting with my wallet and encourage everyone else to do so. If you dont like something you dont need to buy it. Or simply not at full price

Same answer. Hopefully, with minus two lost potential customers, 10 more will take the place. To ensure the survival of the line.For those unable to get the Encore, can get and enjoy this Fortmax

No critical mass sale, no more line. I also raised a similar point with "naked" Metroplex and Legends Metroflex. Were the sales good enough to reach critical mass that we now have this next batch of Cityformers?

Just looking into the bigger picture in the future. I hope and pray the Cityformer release will be encouraging enough for Hb to really release Trypticon.

Myabe if Hasbro really wanted this line to flourish, they wouldn't give us a repainted metroplex with a crap 'city mode' and missing most of the things that makes me think of Fort Max. Maybe, if they hadn't designed the head around the electronics, they could've use that part of the budget to give him an actual city mode. Sorry, I won't pay $150+ for a substandard crap mold. Trypticon is already being made, the other 2 theoretically have some work done on them, and they are all likely to get unique molds, maybe we'll vote with our wallets and get them, but I won't pay msrp for Fort Max, sorry >:oP

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791562)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 21st, 2016 @ 11:07pm CDT

Microraptor wrote:And I really don't care about him not having a sword. What would he even use it for?

In Japanese continuity, the sword is the very thing that even allows him to become Fortress Maximus. Without it, Fortress can't activate the Big Mode transformation of his battleship Maximus and combine with it.

Re: First Written and Pictorial Review of Transformers Titans Return Fortress Maxmus (1791563)
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2016 @ 11:07pm CDT

fenrir72 wrote:Just looking into the bigger picture in the future. I hope and pray the Cityformer release will be encouraging enough for Hb to really release Trypticon.

Your arguments are the same people are using to say why we should be dependent on fossil fuels. No, the world moves on. You can make money by being innovative. Takara isnt bankrupt. And no reason to worry for trypticon, they pumped enough resources into it that you can be sure they will release it. Its already part of their release schedule. Please stop pulling a chicken little on us. The world wont be ending anytime soon. To be fully optimistic here, the states will have another huge stock crash within the next 5 years so the odds are far more in your favour of american fans not getting new TFs because they cant afford them rather than because they arent being produced. yay

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