New Gallery: SDCC 2015 Fan Built Combiner Victorion Display

agreed the colour scheme is seriously naff, first combiner I have no interest in...

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Mkall wrote:I'm sorry, but that colourscheme looks plain bad.

Can't blame Hasbro, we(the fans) created her. Her name, gender, modes, and color scheme were chosen by us.

And what's you get.

Nobody asked for 2 exact same alpha bravo redecos. We said we would like to of the limbs to be jets or helicopters, it was either that or cars and trucks.

Well it's what your getting. Treat them like the old school g1 clones or twins or like cassettes or even the prime vehicons. USE YOUR IMAGINATION

The twins have asymmetrical paint schemes. They also seem to be mirrors of each other as well. So for those of you who don't like them, maybe you can take them apart and reassemble them so that the asymmetrical, mirrored pieces are all uniformed on the two of them. That way there's a chance they'd look less similar to each other with the reds and teals being in different spots on the two of them instead of being half and half on those areas.

It might be what you're getting, but I sure as hell won't be getting her. Aside from the (honestly kinda neat) torso bot, they look pretty dreadful. Not to mention that this makes, what, 5 uses of the Alpha Bravo mold with bare-bones retooling? And those colours...That horrible mouthwash teal and fresh-period-blood red...

Between Wave 2 getting skipped in the EU and the sheer amount of laziness with mold-recycling (seriously Hasbro, enough with the pointless '84 Autobot limbs and save the budget for more molds or better retooling for the actual combiner teams) I am fast going off Combiner Wars.

Something is not right about Victorion's colour mapping.
Overall though, she looks good. The molds and the new heads work well, and the colours-in theory-have their charm, but it's not working as is.

Biggest gripe-a retool of Bravo with new arms exists and it WASN'T used for Vortex??!!

hinomars19 wrote:Biggest gripe-a retool of Bravo with new arms exists and it WASN'T used for Vortex??!!

Kind of like how the Wheeljack chest wasn't used for Sunstreaker.

Is she wearing lipstick? (the heli-fembot I mean)

It's not just that the helicopters have the same color scheme... or that Alpha Bravo never gets anything more than a head swap across 5 different toys now... it's that they don't look remotely feminine. The torso figure isn't much better, really boxy. At least they managed a little something by adding to the Dead End & Breakdown chests.

This is just what I was afraid of. Maybe they should have overridden the poll results and chosen molds that were easier to feminize.

The head of the Dead End retool looks an awful lot like Nightbird.



Kunoichi Autobot!

And aparently, Hasbro can make a dedicated hands and feet if they want to. This should have been the case at the very start of CW line, dedicated hands and feet and combining weapons.

arnie001 wrote:And aparently, Hasbro can make a dedicated hands and feet if they want to. This should have been the case at the very start of CW line, dedicated hands and feet and combining weapons.

This is a special set given special treatment. All the other CW toys (sans Devastator) don't warrant as much attention given their ordinariness.

well i knew i would be disappoined but i had no idea i would be THIS disappointed. man thats bad. and i voted for none of this (so people cant say "hurr its what us fans voted for! ) no. i voted for a decepticon male combiner teamed slammoth.

It's pretty neat one has a visor and another has a faceplate, as lady bots for some reason don't typically get little things like that. But overall this set does absolutely nothing for me.

Randomhero wrote:Can't blame Hasbro, we(the fans) created her. Her name, gender, modes, and color scheme were chosen by us.

And what's you get.

Well no. Hasbro provided us with a tiny handful of options to choose from, and without any clue on how it'd fit together. Did people vote for two helicopters, or did Helicopter coincidentally win twice? We don't know.


Plus the color option seriously underplayed how prominent that red would be:

Oh god, it looks......hideous! I mean, the groove redeco looks alright, I guess, so there's that. But who asked for fruit punch mixed with blue raspberry slurpee colour? Who? I can cross this one off the list. So far, the only things I'm looking forward to are Smokescreen, Trailbreaker, Sky Lynx and Bruticus.

While all fans didn't agree on the options, she is still decided by the fans via majority vote. Like it or not that's how it is.

I wonder when her release windows is and if she's a gift set or individual releases (I can't see it being individual myself mind, maybe that's why she's shown here next to Go Superion).

Only reason I ask is that here in the eu never saw Windblade at retail

Genericon #378 wrote:But who asked for fruit punch mixed with blue raspberry slurpee colour? Who?

Hey, I always mix those two flavors together! They make the best-tasting slurpee.

"Blood-flavored toothpaste" is a pretty bold color scheme.

Looking on the bright side, this will save me some bucks for Bruticus and Sky-reign wave. Not really interested in Victorion.

Also, don't even tell me that that is a Sea of Rust colour scheme. No! Sea of Rust should be something not hideous. Fuck! This is bullshit. This is why fans shouldn't be allowed to choose colour schemes. They choose the worst option. And it's really evident here.

Sabrblade wrote:

Genericon #378 wrote:But who asked for fruit punch mixed with blue raspberry slurpee colour? Who?

Hey, I always mix those two flavors together! They make the best-tasting slurpee.

It does make a tasty slurpee. But mixing those two together on a Transformer is not ok.

THEY GAVE THIS HIDEOUS PIECE OF JUNK ANKLE TILTS

WHY COULDN'T THE OTHER COMBINERS HAVE THESE

Well, I'm going off the paint shine to say this is "Hand Painted Protoype" and hope there's a slide show with a more better picture.

I like Nightbird's head, but I am glad that it isn't Nightbird (or G1 Nightbird) the mold's too blocky for an animatronic robot not meant to transform.

Funny, the torso has the right general colors for Fire Chief (should be more blue than green) but when I wanted a Red remold of that it was for Fire Convoy. Oh well, I can still hold out for a yellow repaint, cause I don't trust myself to paint something of that scale.

New arms for AB is cool, kinda wish we got them erlier. Blades maybe. Not Vortex, he actually IS an attack helo. But I wouldn't be surprised if these arms didn't exist until Victorion.

And the combining weapons are AWESOME.

ZeroWolf wrote:While all fans didn't agree on the options, she is still decided by the fans via majority vote. Like it or not that's how it is.

Fans voted on a set of 3 colours. They didn't decide how they would be mapped onto each figure. That's all Hasbro. People who picked this colour choice have every right to complain, imo, since their choice was used less than wisely.

I like the way Victorion looks, but I agree about her colors: needs improvement.

Never in my life would I ever think about buying a box set solely for weapons... I NEED THOSE THINGS SO F***ING BADLY ARGHHHSDGBSLFHFHFUIFLOHFSFIUHFUIIE

Huh, well, not too shabby, I do kind of wish they'd throw in some more colors for variety. Heads and chests look good, all of them overall look nice. The new hands and feet are a nice touch. Although, looking at the Dead-End repaint, I betcha dollars to donuts that it'll be repainted into Nightbird in the US. The weapons are incredible!

Looks like a bunch of cross-dressers. Hasbro has released several feminine bots lately Arcee, Windblade, and Chromia and I was expecting the same concept and level of feminine touch and not just some bot slapped with a lipstick.

I doubt this is the final color scheme.

Close to final, maybe, but these are clearly hand-painted, and I can see this being toned down a bit.

megatronus wrote:I doubt this is the final color scheme.

Close to final, maybe, but these are clearly hand-painted, and I can see this being toned down a bit.

I sure hope so. The words that sprung to mind when I saw the prototype were "Watermelon Abomination".

ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder when her release windows is and if she's a gift set or individual releases (I can't see it being individual myself mind, maybe that's why she's shown here next to Go Superion).

According to TFW2005, Victorion and G2 Superion will be box-sets, not exclusive to any particular store, but they'll mostly be sold through online retailers.

That's a huge eyesore. Those colours just don't work together at all especially in this messy way. They should have gone with option A colour scheme if any of them but yeah.

LOL...what a joke. Of course I did not expect any less. This right here proves that these sexist morons at Hasbro are doing this because they think that random females will flock to the fandom because there is a "female" transformer. And in that, they cannot even create new molds for the release! And, to top that all off, it just repaints of the same molds from he supposed "male" transformers. This is so insulting to women! I mean, look, they put lipstick on one of them!

HAHAHAHA! They must be the Bruce Jenners of Cybertron, eh Hasbro? Oh well, saves my cash. And I need a break anyhow with all of these releases.

I will have none of that type of talk in this thread, shockblast2. None of it.

In one post you have insulted Hasbro staff, Caitlyn Jenner and probably a number of users and fans. I'd almost be impressed if it weren't so sad.

You are clearly incapable of expressing your negative opinions without resorting to insult - have a warning. It's on me.

arnie001 wrote:Looks like a bunch of cross-dressers. Hasbro has released several feminine bots lately Arcee, Windblade, and Chromia and I was expecting the same concept and level of feminine touch and not just some bot slapped with a lipstick.

I have to agree. Masterpiece Tracks looks more feminine than these. Repaints still can't make these molds look more feminine. I'm all for fem-bots but this is a hell of a fail. I was looking forward to acquiring this set but it's going to be a "no".

Toys designed by "fan" votes (really just a very small subset of fans stuffing the ballot box) are a bad idea. That... thing is beyond hideous.

To be fair, those "fembots" are OUTRAGEOUSLY butch. Seriously, those were some absolutely zero-effort retools. The Dead End retool with the Nightbird headsculpt could easily pass off as a guy (and honestly looks like a hench "gangsta"/Somali pirate with a facemask). After Road Rage, who only had a few parts here and there rounded off and generally made more feminine, and yet still looked like a proper fembot, there is absolutely no excuse for the feeble effort they made here.

I'm not saying they needed to look like Drossel Von Flugel, but they could have done better than the goddamn botched-tranny look they've given them. Seriously, there's plenty of TFs that are meant to be male that make better fembots than these disasters.

I don't have a problem with them not looking 'feminine' After all, G1 Hot-Rod looked less than masculine, and the same can now be said for Nick Roche's Springer. I'm not overly fond of the character, but RiD Strongarm is a good female design without being traditionally feminine

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hinomars19 wrote:I don't have a problem with them not looking 'feminine' After all, G1 Hot-Rod looked less than masculine, and the same can now be said for Nick Roche's Springer. I'm not overly fond of the character, but RiD Strongarm is a good female design without being traditionally feminine

Yeah, Strongarm is great, and still at least looks vaguely female. These though? Even the headsculpts suck ball bearings. The Breakdown retool looks like a blow-up doll, the Dead End retool looks like a South African gangster, the Alpha Bravo retools are just generic in the extreme (the mouthplated head is OK, the visored head...yeah...)...they all look just awful.

I'll be waiting for a 3P Victorion that actually has some effort put into it.

Va'al wrote:I will have none of that type of talk in this thread, shockblast2. None of it.

In one post you have insulted Hasbro staff, Caitlyn Jenner and probably a number of users and fans. I'd almost be impressed if it weren't so sad.

You are clearly incapable of expressing your negative opinions without resorting to insult - have a warning. It's on me.

Ok, I call out the hypocrisy and obvious sexism of this whole concept and I am the bad guy? Furthermore, I am not the only one calling these things cross dressers, so unless you are going to warn everyone else that makes you a hypocrite and a bully.

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Ok, hypocrite. You gave me no warning. You also gave no one else a warning and acted like I am the first person to say it.

I will tell you this Va'Al. You keep treating people unfairly like this and don't be surprised when they jump ship and head off to TFW2005, or some other site for their news. I personally am getting sick and tired of the selective rule enforcement on this site. That makes you and your team nothing more than a bunch of bullies.

shockblast2 wrote:

Va'al wrote:I will have none of that type of talk in this thread, shockblast2. None of it.

In one post you have insulted Hasbro staff, Caitlyn Jenner and probably a number of users and fans. I'd almost be impressed if it weren't so sad.

You are clearly incapable of expressing your negative opinions without resorting to insult - have a warning. It's on me.

Ok, I call out the hypocrisy and obvious sexism of this whole concept and I am the bad guy? Furthermore, I am not the only one calling these things cross dressers, so unless you are going to warn everyone else that makes you a hypocrite and a bully.

I have issued a general thread warning. I expect everyone to adhere to the rules.
Users who have used language inappropriate without directly breaching the rules do not get an immediate warning.

You directly insulted Hasbro staff, by calling them 'morons'.

I will not hear any more from you here on this matter, but feel free to PM me.

Well, Victorion looks like shit. Those colors are horrible.

Just my opinion. I'm happy for people who like it, but .

Va'al wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Va'al wrote:I will have none of that type of talk in this thread, shockblast2. None of it.

In one post you have insulted Hasbro staff, Caitlyn Jenner and probably a number of users and fans. I'd almost be impressed if it weren't so sad.

You are clearly incapable of expressing your negative opinions without resorting to insult - have a warning. It's on me.

Ok, I call out the hypocrisy and obvious sexism of this whole concept and I am the bad guy? Furthermore, I am not the only one calling these things cross dressers, so unless you are going to warn everyone else that makes you a hypocrite and a bully.

I have issued a general thread warning. I expect everyone to adhere to the rules.
Users who have used language inappropriate without directly breaching the rules do not get an immediate warning.

You directly insulted Hasbro staff, by calling them 'morons'.

I will not hear any more from you here on this matter, but feel free to PM me.

No, I am sick of this bullshit. I was not the first, nor will I be the last to say this kind of thing. You people have a website with an open forum and you must respect others opinions or they will leave. It is that simple. But yet, you jump me every time for my comments when others say worst things and nothing is said.

I have seen people insult my personal beliefs on this site, mods included, and I have never cried about it, because it is your OP, not mine.

I have been sent PMs by other members accusing you people of the same thing. I am not going to name names, but you can guarantee that I am not the only one who thinks you, Burn, and other mods have a set of rules you selective enforce when you see fit. Mainly when it agrees with your personal OP. Its not fair, especially to the people who pay the bills indirectly to keep this site getting paid for its service.

Furthermore, if I want to insult Hasbro staff I will do so. Its called freedom of speech. You cannot just treat someone unfairly and then try to get them to discuss it with them privately, when this kind of thing effects all who visit this site. And anyone who is not a mod is going to see this and think they will be the next person harassed for their opinion. Do you think that is best for the site? If people want to say something about someone else personally on the site, then they should PM them. But, if I want to slander Hasbro, then what is it to you? What is this, Nazi Germany?

Delta Magnus wrote:
I'll be waiting for a 3P Victorion that actually has some effort put into it.

You like Victorion that much to hope for a 400-500$ Combiner of her? Not that it would happen. And plus her appearance is based on these mold choices, so I dont see how someone else can improve on a design that was basically based on the exact toy they were producing.

Pretty much, this is as good as it will get. BUT remember guys, we are getting ankle tilts out of this. Those new legs and hands have that feature now.

shockblast2 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Va'al wrote:I will have none of that type of talk in this thread, shockblast2. None of it.

In one post you have insulted Hasbro staff, Caitlyn Jenner and probably a number of users and fans. I'd almost be impressed if it weren't so sad.

You are clearly incapable of expressing your negative opinions without resorting to insult - have a warning. It's on me.

Ok, I call out the hypocrisy and obvious sexism of this whole concept and I am the bad guy? Furthermore, I am not the only one calling these things cross dressers, so unless you are going to warn everyone else that makes you a hypocrite and a bully.

I have issued a general thread warning. I expect everyone to adhere to the rules.
Users who have used language inappropriate without directly breaching the rules do not get an immediate warning.

You directly insulted Hasbro staff, by calling them 'morons'.

I will not hear any more from you here on this matter, but feel free to PM me.

No, I am sick of this ****. I was not the first, nor will I be the last to say this kind of thing. You people have a website with an open forum and you must respect others opinions or they will leave. It is that simple. But yet, you jump me every time for my comments when others say worst things and nothing is said.

I have seen people insult my personal beliefs on this site, mods included, and I have never cried about it, because it is your OP, not mine.

I have been sent PMs by other members accusing you people of the same thing. I am not going to name names, but you can guarantee that I am not the only one who thinks you, Burn, and other mods have a set of rules you selective enforce when you see fit. Mainly when it agrees with your personal OP. Its not fair, especially to the people who pay the bills indirectly to keep this site getting paid for its service.

Furthermore, if I want to insult Hasbro staff I will do so. Its called freedom of speech.

It's called breaking the rules.



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Looks neato. Not blown away but certainly didn't expect to be based on the options while voting. The weapons are super cool and the new combiner parts are a welcome addition. Glad to see more red in the color scheme, the head shot from last night's artwork looked a lot like Quickswitch!

Va'al wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Va'al wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Va'al wrote:I will have none of that type of talk in this thread, shockblast2. None of it.

In one post you have insulted Hasbro staff, Caitlyn Jenner and probably a number of users and fans. I'd almost be impressed if it weren't so sad.

You are clearly incapable of expressing your negative opinions without resorting to insult - have a warning. It's on me.

Ok, I call out the hypocrisy and obvious sexism of this whole concept and I am the bad guy? Furthermore, I am not the only one calling these things cross dressers, so unless you are going to warn everyone else that makes you a hypocrite and a bully.

I have issued a general thread warning. I expect everyone to adhere to the rules.
Users who have used language inappropriate without directly breaching the rules do not get an immediate warning.

You directly insulted Hasbro staff, by calling them 'morons'.

I will not hear any more from you here on this matter, but feel free to PM me.

No, I am sick of this ****. I was not the first, nor will I be the last to say this kind of thing. You people have a website with an open forum and you must respect others opinions or they will leave. It is that simple. But yet, you jump me every time for my comments when others say worst things and nothing is said.

I have seen people insult my personal beliefs on this site, mods included, and I have never cried about it, because it is your OP, not mine.

I have been sent PMs by other members accusing you people of the same thing. I am not going to name names, but you can guarantee that I am not the only one who thinks you, Burn, and other mods have a set of rules you selective enforce when you see fit. Mainly when it agrees with your personal OP. Its not fair, especially to the people who pay the bills indirectly to keep this site getting paid for its service.

Furthermore, if I want to insult Hasbro staff I will do so. Its called freedom of speech.

It's called breaking the rules.



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No, its called selectively enforcing rules Va'Al. If I got on here and slandered Hitler, then you would not say anything, would you?

Do this. Create a anon poll and ask the members of this site if they think the rules are selectively enforced here.

Lets see who is in the right and who is wrong.

Va'al wrote:


You directly insulted Hasbro staff, by calling them 'morons'.

I know that I'm picking out a real specific thing here, but this cannot possibly be a real issue, can it? I am all for sensitivity and playing nice, but we as a board cannot have gotten to the level where something like the about is construed as being an actual injury, can we?

Cococoolio! The Hotspot mold works way better for a fembot than I anticipated!

Damn, am I the only one that likes the combiner? The colors could be better, but they don't bother me. also, they look feminine enough to me.