MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Eh, Ratbat is the only one I want out of these. I don't see myself getting Soundblaster just for Ratbat: he just looks too similar to Soundwave, deco-wise. Perhaps if they did a separate pack that had more cassettes (like Slugfest or Overkill), then maybe I'd buy.

I like that it gives us the option between toy and comic G2 Sideswipe... if they go all comic, though, it "has" to come with G2's excessive amount of bullets as an accessory! lol

Disappointed, but expected, that Ratbat would be exclusive to Soundblaster. I think many of us want to add Ratbat (and many other tapes!) to our collection, but really don't care to have Soundblaster when we already have struggled so hard to get Soundwave.

that Ratbat looks sweet. apparently Soundwave is making appearances in TRU UK (got an email saying it was in stock), but I can't afford it just now.. hope it's still there when I can.. and yeah hoping more cassettes come out and there's a nice pack including Ratbat in the future

Woohoo!

Lambor G2 Version =

Soundblaster w/ Ratbat =

I knew it! I freakin' knew it!

You want Masterpiece Ratbat? You gotta buy Soundwave again.

Please Hasbro, release him stateside in just a two pack with Masterpiece Enemy instead of this.

RiddlerJ wrote:I knew it! I freakin' knew it!

You want Masterpiece Ratbat? You gotta buy Soundwave again.

A gorgeous-looking Soundwave.

If I had the budget for Masterpieces, I would get this. It's a great mold, and it looks BAD-ASS in black and silver. I would love to have him and SW displayed side-by-side. Ratbat's just the icing on the cake.

As much as I would like MP Ratbat I am not getting SB just to get him.. Here is hoping for a US release of just RB.
Hoping is a strong word.. LOL

Mindmaster wrote:Eh, Ratbat is the only one I want out of these. I don't see myself getting Soundblaster just for Ratbat: he just looks too similar to Soundwave, deco-wise. Perhaps if they did a separate pack that had more cassettes (like Slugfest or Overkill), then maybe I'd buy.

And Beastbox & Squawktalk as well. If SW got 5 cassettes, so should SB.

Arctorro wrote:As much as I want a MP Ratbat, there is no way I'm buying Soundblaster to get him

RIGHT??

Andddd preordered.

joevill wrote:

Arctorro wrote:As much as I want a MP Ratbat, there is no way I'm buying Soundblaster to get him

RIGHT??

Indeed!

Preordered from BBTS .

Ratbat looks awesome and I'm glad to see they used purple on SoundBlaster rather than red. I always preferred the purple just like the Music Label version.

Joetx wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:Eh, Ratbat is the only one I want out of these. I don't see myself getting Soundblaster just for Ratbat: he just looks too similar to Soundwave, deco-wise. Perhaps if they did a separate pack that had more cassettes (like Slugfest or Overkill), then maybe I'd buy.

And Beastbox & Squawktalk as well. If SW got 5 cassettes, so should SB.

As awesome as that would be, I'd settle for the Stateside release with JUST Ratbat, Slugfest, and Overkill if it meant it would be a bit cheaper than the tag Soundwave was sporting.

I'm probably being too optimistic here, but maybe TRU will look at the popularity of MP Soundwave (surely SOMEONE at corporate has noticed that this $125 item is flying off the shelves faster than they can stock it), and say "Hey, let's talk to Hasbro about doing the other cassettes. If everyone who bought SW buys the cassettes, it's more easy money for us!"

I'll come right out and say, when Takara f@#&ed up MP Lambor's face, I deliberately bought the more accurate KO for just over $50, got him in the mail 2 days ago, and couldn't be happier. But for an official MP G2 firestormin' 'Swipe with spikey shoulders, machete, and EXTREME '90s machine guns, I will pay any official price! Could it be that the evil-squinting face on regular MP-12 was actually intended for this version?

As for a hypothetical Hasbro MP Ratbat, the character is iconic entirely because of his Marvel U.S. appearances (well, fans who haven't hit the books still like him too, so maybe it's 95%), so I think we all know what color Soundwave repaint he should come packaged with: PURPLE! Glorious Decepticon purple, all over! The color that allowed him to survive an Underblast from Starscream when even Omega Supreme was felled!

But will I buy Soundblaster to get him if that doesn't happen? Well, Soundwave's cartoon persona was my favorite at age 5, so I do want an MP with with red optics, so the fact that it looks too similar to the first Soundwave that I haven't been able to afford just yet is actually a plus in my book.

Bumblevivisector wrote:
As for a hypothetical Hasbro MP Ratbat, the character is iconic entirely because of his Marvel U.S. appearances (well, fans who haven't hit the books still like him too, so maybe it's 95%), so I think we all know what color Soundwave repaint he should come packaged with: PURPLE! Glorious Decepticon purple, all over! The color that allowed him to survive an Underblast from Starscream when even Omega Supreme was felled!

That's a pretty good idea. I would actually prefer the Marvel purple to the Soundblaster black which is just too close to his normal dark blue.

An ideal situation would be to remold his face so that he has a mouth instead of the mouthplate like he was seen sporting in various issues of Marvel.

Nice nice nice, that g2 sideswipe looks nice. The red on the front in car mood is nice. I just preordered him. And I'm thinking about getting him instead of mp-Bluestreak. They are both black and red figures but g2 is out shinning plain looking bluestreak rite now. Plus sideswipe is a lamb, you can never have to many lambs and I rather have three lambs over having three nissans.

Hopefully Ratbat gets a high quality KO...

CHMS are you listening ???

GuyIncognito wrote:I'm probably being too optimistic here, but maybe TRU will look at the popularity of MP Soundwave (surely SOMEONE at corporate has noticed that this $125 item is flying off the shelves faster than they can stock it), and say "Hey, let's talk to Hasbro about doing the other cassettes. If everyone who bought SW buys the cassettes, it's more easy money for us!"

This would be so gravy if they did this.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:I'm probably being too optimistic here, but maybe TRU will look at the popularity of MP Soundwave (surely SOMEONE at corporate has noticed that this $125 item is flying off the shelves faster than they can stock it), and say "Hey, let's talk to Hasbro about doing the other cassettes. If everyone who bought SW buys the cassettes, it's more easy money for us!"

This would be so gravy if they did this.

Do stores actually know what items they stock? Or rather, what other related items could possibly be made before Hasbro comes out with the news?

GuyIncognito wrote:I'm probably being too optimistic here, but maybe TRU will look at the popularity of MP Soundwave (surely SOMEONE at corporate has noticed that this $125 item is flying off the shelves faster than they can stock it), and say "Hey, let's talk to Hasbro about doing the other cassettes. If everyone who bought SW buys the cassettes, it's more easy money for us!"

You're better off wishing on a falling star.
A) TRU communicates inventory/sales with Hasbro???
B) Hasbro is paying attention and NOT asleep at the switch?
C) Hasbro cares about what you want to buy?
D) Hasbro has ever responded to a mass-sell-out of a popular item with a restock of said popular item?

Ehhh, I guess I don't get your optimism or out-loud dreaming. Seems like wasted energy, when realistically, none of what you said is ever going to come true (unless a magic star granted your wish, as previously stated above).

It would have been better to do more 2 packs

Slugfest and Overkill
Beastbox and Squaktalk
Ratbat and AutoScout
Wingthing and Enemy

leokearon wrote:It would have been better to do more 2 packs

Slugfest and Overkill
Beastbox and Squaktalk
Ratbat and AutoScout
Wingthing and Enemy

Look, you guys are horribly ungrateful. Think about how Hasbro feels: those disc 2-packs aren't moving at all, and THEY GAVE YOU WHAT YOU WANTED!!!!

So from Hasbro's point of view, I think they are flipping you off for making such an obnoxious request.

Metrosuplex wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:I'm probably being too optimistic here, but maybe TRU will look at the popularity of MP Soundwave (surely SOMEONE at corporate has noticed that this $125 item is flying off the shelves faster than they can stock it), and say "Hey, let's talk to Hasbro about doing the other cassettes. If everyone who bought SW buys the cassettes, it's more easy money for us!"

You're better off wishing on a falling star.
A) TRU communicates inventory/sales with Hasbro???
B) Hasbro is paying attention and NOT asleep at the switch?
C) Hasbro cares about what you want to buy?
D) Hasbro has ever responded to a mass-sell-out of a popular item with a restock of said popular item?

Ehhh, I guess I don't get your optimism or out-loud dreaming. Seems like wasted energy, when realistically, none of what you said is ever going to come true (unless a magic star granted your wish, as previously stated above).

A) Yes, TRU communicates with Hasbro. These TRU exclusives don't appear out of thin air. They're part of a collaboration between TRU and Hasbro.
B) Yes, they gave us an awesome Soundwave set that includes cassettes not included with the Takara version. If they were "asleep at the switch", we wouldn't have MP SW.
C) Yes, I think Hasbro cares about SALES.
D) I never said anything about restocking SW, so I'm not sure what you're even arguing there.

I'm psyched for both of these guys! G2 Sideswipe and Soundblaster look fabulous - and that Ratbat!

I think the complaining about Ratbat being packaged with Soundblaster is unwarranted. What else were they going to package Soundblaster with? If it were any other cassette, I have a feeling people would be complaining fairly hard about the continued absence of Ratbat. I highly, highly doubt Ratbat will see a stateside release.

Also, I wouldn't get my hopes up about the other cassette pairs. They've been doing mold repaints and retools where possible to get additional characters out, but they've probably already moved on to other 1984 lineup molds. We'll see.

SoundBlaster preordered! Although tempting I'm passing on G2 Sideswipe

I passed on MP-12, because I said "I love Sideswipe, he's my favorite regular Autobot by a good stretch, but I want G2 Sides."

Then they announced it, and I said "I sincerely hope they get the deco right."

And then they did.

I'm going to say something, and I'm going to say it and MEAN it like I have NEVER meant these words before, because something like MP G2 Sideswipe is, quite literally, my grail.

SHUT
UP
AND
TAKE
MY
MONEY.

Ratbat looks spot-on from what I can tell, but I don't care for Soundblaster (don't even have Soundwave yet!)

Hard to see the details for Ratbat but looks like his weapons are incorporated in the cassette (gold edges on the cassette).

Metrosuplex wrote:

leokearon wrote:It would have been better to do more 2 packs

Slugfest and Overkill
Beastbox and Squaktalk
Ratbat and AutoScout
Wingthing and Enemy

Look, you guys are horribly ungrateful. Think about how Hasbro feels: those disc 2-packs aren't moving at all, and THEY GAVE YOU WHAT YOU WANTED!!!!

So from Hasbro's point of view, I think they are flipping you off for making such an obnoxious request.

Well, the disc 2-packs are (1) poorly detailed & (2) kinda pricey, especially considering (1).

If anyone just wants Soundblaster, I just want the Ratbat. Mayhaps we can work something out?

(unlikely, I know, but it's worth a shot)

Mkall wrote:If anyone just wants Soundblaster, I just want the Ratbat. Mayhaps we can work something out?

(unlikely, I know, but it's worth a shot)

I feel like a lot of people are in your boat

Hasbro should take MP Ratbat and Generations (Senator) Ratbat, and put them in a sort of "Ratbat: Then and Now" 2-pack with a boxback bio written to depict him as IDW Ratbat to go along with the current IDW G1 theme of the Generations line.

Perhaps Hasbro will release their own SoundBlaster/Ratbat set. I know that a MP is a far cry from a $20 voyager, but the Generations SoundBlaster shows their willingness to do the character. I think the $75-$80 range would be good for the combo. Hasbro is going to have a shortage of MP's to release in the future considering all the licensed cars coming out and their unwillingness or inability to attain the licenses. I suppose they could release another seeker of some kind next summer.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:Perhaps Hasbro will release their own SoundBlaster/Ratbat set. I know that a MP is a far cry from a $20 voyager, but the Generations SoundBlaster shows their willingness to do the character. I think the $75-$80 range would be good for the combo. Hasbro is going to have a shortage of MP's to release in the future considering all the licensed cars coming out and their unwillingness or inability to attain the licenses. I suppose they could release another seeker of some kind next summer.

For good reason, Hasbro tends to shy away from:
(1) high price points
(2) Japanese characters

There are obviously notable exceptions to either rule (e.g. FOC Soundblaster), but an MP Soundblaster would be both of these things. I would love to see him stateside, but I continue to be pessimistic about this possibility.

Well there is an easily pass - well, there was an easy pass until they announced it with Ratbat. Damn my plastic crack addiction to Masterpieces.

I am feeling the same way as many others - I want Ratbat, but it's hard to reason buying Soundblaster after just buying Soundwave. If Soundblaster can come with some different accessories then it would be easier to swallow.

I have a feeling this is not the last time we will see MP Ratbat.

I knew a MP Soundblaster repaint was on the cards, thankfully is now a reality. I'm super excited for MP Soundblaster, and Ratbat is the cherry on the top

I pre-ordered and paid for mine as soon as it was listed this morning, can't wait.

Ok they both look good, I had to preorder both just to add them to my mp collection, but I'm tired of seeing the same old remakes different colors, I have six different optimus's, now they have soundblaster coming out duh black Soundwave, why not autobot blaster, instead of g2 sideswipe why not rachet or ironhide, or better yet a mp devastater, or more dinobots, got both grimlocks, maybe some of the little guys like huffer or cosmos , seaspray, powerglide , or even a jazz mp

How about coming out with blaster or jazz or some of the other g1 characters

Mkall wrote:If anyone just wants Soundblaster, I just want the Ratbat. Mayhaps we can work something out?

(unlikely, I know, but it's worth a shot)

Do what most assholes are doing with TRU Soundwave: buy Soundblaster, take out Ratbat and then sell Soundblaster on ebay for twice of what he costs new.

is it me or do the feet on soundblaster look like keds or cheap tennis shoes to you all?


oh and bring on rat bat

VioMeTriX wrote:is it me or do the feet on soundblaster look like keds or cheap tennis shoes to you all?


oh and bring on rat bat

Yes, they do. Ugh.

Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro should take MP Ratbat and Generations (Senator) Ratbat, and put them in a sort of "Ratbat: Then and Now" 2-pack with a boxback bio written to depict him as IDW Ratbat to go along with the current IDW G1 theme of the Generations line.

Great idea, from a collector's viewpoint.

But it occurs to me that no matter how much we want just the cassettes without paying big bucks for another MP Soundwave repaint, if they're packaged with anything that doesn't require enormous, hard-to-open-inconspicuously Masterpiece packaging, they will be shoplifted worse than any TF in history. Toys'R'Us policy is that items costing $100 or more require spider-wrap security devices to go out on the shelves, though the sheer number of high-price TFs lately has bent the rules just a tad; at my local TRU, Platinum Grimlock vs. Bruticus consistently has them, along with Acid Storm despite his lower cost, while Metroplex doesn't get them because he's usually kept behind a counter as they don't want to devote that much shelf space to anything selling out so regularly, and there aren't many little bits one would see any point in swiping from his box anyway, right? But spider-wraps are a necessary deterrent wherever MP cassettes are concerned, and they only fit on big boxes.

Actually, you know what extras would get fans to jump at an MP Soundwave repaint? A dozen extra fingertips, half of them color-matched to MP2! Complain to Hasbro's customer service about your MP Soundwave being dis-indexed and maybe it'll happen! Of course then TRU'd REALLY need to spider-wrap each box...

Bumblevivisector wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro should take MP Ratbat and Generations (Senator) Ratbat, and put them in a sort of "Ratbat: Then and Now" 2-pack with a boxback bio written to depict him as IDW Ratbat to go along with the current IDW G1 theme of the Generations line.

Great idea, from a collector's viewpoint.

Well, yeah, I imagined it being like a collector-oriented store exclusive, since I figure it'd be adult collectors who'd want either of those Ratbat toys more than the kids would.

Sabrblade wrote:

Bumblevivisector wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro should take MP Ratbat and Generations (Senator) Ratbat, and put them in a sort of "Ratbat: Then and Now" 2-pack with a boxback bio written to depict him as IDW Ratbat to go along with the current IDW G1 theme of the Generations line.

Great idea, from a collector's viewpoint.

Well, yeah, I imagined it being like a collector-oriented store exclusive, since I figure it'd be adult collectors who'd want either of those Ratbat toys more than the kids would.

Granted, they're anything but mutually exclusive, so I guess I should've said "paying collector's perspective" to contrast what an AWESOME idea small-package cassette releases would be to adult shoplifters.

Are you assuming they'd have to be an online exclusive? Despite the price tag, MP Soundwave is still technically an impulse buy for some fans casual enough to spot him in store without prior knowledge of him, but still vulnerable to being run over by $130.00 nostalgia-trains. If it were just known to us collectors who frequent news-sites, I doubt MP Soundwave would get quite enough sales to make Hasbro a profit, in which case the same logic applies to any cassettes Hasbro releases: they need to get to the shelves, in theft-resistant boxes.

If someone has better math on that, please correct me.

Autobot032 wrote:

VioMeTriX wrote:is it me or do the feet on soundblaster look like keds or cheap tennis shoes to you all?


oh and bring on rat bat

Yes, they do. Ugh.

To be fair though, they needed to do that for the sake of accuracy in both tape and Robot modes as the feet form a completely different part of the tape deck now.

kw-primus-112 wrote:Ok they both look good, I had to preorder both just to add them to my mp collection, but I'm tired of seeing the same old remakes different colors, I have six different optimus's, now they have soundblaster coming out duh black Soundwave, why not autobot blaster, instead of g2 sideswipe why not rachet or ironhide, or better yet a mp devastater, or more dinobots, got both grimlocks, maybe some of the little guys like huffer or cosmos , seaspray, powerglide , or even a jazz mp

Simple. Because if you want new molds, new LICENSED molds, Takara needs to have money to buy said licenses and make said molds (and remolds). Need I go on?

RAcast wrote:

kw-primus-112 wrote:Ok they both look good, I had to preorder both just to add them to my mp collection, but I'm tired of seeing the same old remakes different colors, I have six different optimus's, now they have soundblaster coming out duh black Soundwave, why not autobot blaster, instead of g2 sideswipe why not rachet or ironhide, or better yet a mp devastater, or more dinobots, got both grimlocks, maybe some of the little guys like huffer or cosmos , seaspray, powerglide , or even a jazz mp

Simple. Because if you want new molds, new LICENSED molds, Takara needs to have money to buy said licenses and make said molds (and remolds). Need I go on?

I'm have a day to think about things and I can live with it. Technically we can't complain too much- how many of us were half-jokingly looking at Soundwave as an accessory for Laserbeak.

Also let's not forget that Hasbro and Takara were worse with FOC when we wound up getting Buzz Saw with Soundblaster AND he was shortpacked. At least they're giving us a new cassette mould this time around.