MP-13B Soundblaster Additional Images: Closer Look at Ratbat!

Want that Ratbat soooo baaaad.

Ill never get the logic behind the MP scale. Soundwave doubles in size, but the cassettes stay the same and retain G1 toy scale ? Dumb as hell but it works for me since the cassettes scale perfect with classics. I really want that ratbat without having to buy another useless coffee table figure. KO guys please make it happen...

I 2nd the KO idea please ...not going to buy a repaint mold just for Ratbat . I already have 4 Masterpiece Soundwave (1 open and keeping the other three in box) .


~reluctantyouth~

Rated X wrote:Ill never get the logic behind the MP scale. Soundwave doubles in size, but the cassettes stay the same and retain G1 toy scale ? Dumb as hell but it works for me since the cassettes scale perfect with classics. I really want that ratbat without having to buy another useless coffee table figure. KO guys please make it happen...

really?.. you don't understand the logic behind the MP scale.. what is it that you don't understand?.. is it that they didn't want to make MP soundwaves chest gigantic, but rather keep it relatively in scale to itself?.. or that they wanted MP soundwave to obtain the ability to house the cassettes in his chest.. which, leads me back to my first point..

so.. again, which don't you understand?

not sure how it's "dumb as hell".. but hey, you can continue to believe it.

Rated X wrote:Ill never get the logic behind the MP scale. Soundwave doubles in size, but the cassettes stay the same and retain G1 toy scale ? Dumb as hell but it works for me since the cassettes scale perfect with classics. I really want that ratbat without having to buy another useless coffee table figure. KO guys please make it happen...

Isn't it obvious? It's for backtrack compatibility with the G1 Soundwave and Blaster toys. It's to give them an extra level of playability across both lines to let them each use each other's cassettes.

It's the same reason that the Ravage that came with Universe Hound was likewise scaled to fit inside G1 Soundwave's chest (though, specifically the remolded chest version, which Hasbro did release at TRU during Classics).

Not to mention that the G1 Soundwave chest was proportionately huge compared to the rest of his body. Guy looked liked billboard with limbs and a head. But keeping that chest door size scaled as it was and upscaling the rest of his body brings out a more reasonably proportioned bot, with proportions that not only look more natural but also match up with his cartoon model proportions. Otherwise, had G1 Soundwave been proportionally-correct from the beginning, either his G1 toy would have already been MP-sized (like G1 Blaster's toy was) or his chest door and cassettes would have been teeny-tiny.

I don't know how but there has to be a way to release rat bat without Soundblaster. Then again there might be more cassettes on the way so this might get a summertime us release.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't know how but there has to be a way to release rat bat without Soundblaster. Then again there might be more cassettes on the way so this might get a summertime us release.

I highly doubt there will be a release of Ratbat by himself or in a 2-pack. Wingthing, on the other hand...

TimothyR wrote:

Rated X wrote:Ill never get the logic behind the MP scale. Soundwave doubles in size, but the cassettes stay the same and retain G1 toy scale ? Dumb as hell but it works for me since the cassettes scale perfect with classics. I really want that ratbat without having to buy another useless coffee table figure. KO guys please make it happen...

really?.. you don't understand the logic behind the MP scale.. what is it that you don't understand?.. is it that they didn't want to make MP soundwaves chest gigantic, but rather keep it relatively in scale to itself?.. or that they wanted MP soundwave to obtain the ability to house the cassettes in his chest.. which, leads me back to my first point..

so.. again, which don't you understand?

not sure how it's "dumb as hell".. but hey, you can continue to believe it.

I didn't think it took a rocket scientist to realize that by not enlarging the cassettes, cartoon scale was sacrificed for "playability". in my honest opinion, playability was for kids toys (hence G1 toy scale) If Takara chose the toy scale over the cartoon scale, they dropped the ball. The MP line was supposed to be cartoon accurate. Am I the only adult on here who just displays $150 figures rather than "playing" with them ? Either way it works for me because now the casettes are really classics scale which is what I collect. MP Soundwave hangs out in the vintage cabinet next to his G1 counterpart still waiting to be transformed for the first time. One of these days...

I don't know why people are against owning a Soundblaster. He displays nicely with Rodimus.
I'm going to display Rodimus fighting against Soundblaster and Sixshot(MMC's Hexatron) in a detolf.

Rated X wrote:I didn't think it took a rocket scientist to realize that by not enlarging the cassettes, cartoon scale was sacrificed for "playability". in my honest opinion, playability was for kids toys (hence G1 toy scale) If Takara chose the toy scale over the cartoon scale, they dropped the ball. The MP line was supposed to be cartoon accurate. Am I the only adult on here who just displays $150 figures rather than "playing" with them ? Either way it works for me because now the casettes are really classics scale which is what I collect. MP Soundwave hangs out in the vintage cabinet next to his G1 counterpart still waiting to be transformed for the first time. One of these days...

Okay, in the cartoon Rumble (yes, the blue one) was about the same size as Spike, maybe a little taller. Scaling him to Spike would have made Rumble about an inch and a half tall. But at the same time, they show him as nearly as tall as Hound. And Bumblebee is a full sized car that ends up maybe 7' tall in robot mode.

Then there's this:


And this:


And this:


But aside from all of the sliding scales and mass-shifting, there is a very practical reason for the cassettes to be that size:



Laserbeak has to be the right size to interact with Soundwave (and eventually Megatron). Like 80% of Laserbeak's purpose in the series is to show who is in command of the Decepticons. He's been on my Soundwave's arm pretty much since I got them and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.

zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.

MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad.

megatronus wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.

MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad.

It was originally MP-50 but that made me too sad to post it!

zodconvoy wrote:A whole buncha truth about the cartoon's "scale"

Agreed, man... the scale of the cassettes never bothered me, as in the show there was never a consistent size to them in the first place, except Laserbeak's shoulder/arm perching. the MP Laserbeak fits that scale perfectly, and the other cassettes scale with him so they all have the same sized cassette mode. Makes completely logical sense to me.

I didn't realize the MP Cassettes were the same size as the G1 Cassettes. This changes things for me, at least. I actually like Soundblaster's colors better than Soundwave, so I was gonna buy him for Ratbat, and just use him as my Soundwave. But now that I know the cassettes are the same size, I might pass or just wait a while until he is cheaper. I'm contemplating picking up a complete G1 Ratbat instead, it would still be a lot cheaper than the MP, even if it doesn't look as good or it isn't as accurate.

gona get it!

zodconvoy wrote:

megatronus wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.

MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad.

It was originally MP-50 but that made me too sad to post it!

Guys, guys, guys, we're getting a little hopeful, here.

It's totally MP-100.

Mindmaster wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:

megatronus wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.

MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad.

It was originally MP-50 but that made me too sad to post it!

Guys, guys, guys, we're getting a little hopeful, here.

It's totally MP-100.

I'll be really happy if this line makes it to MP-100. think about that's 100 MPs!!!

Mindmaster wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:

megatronus wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.

MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad.

It was originally MP-50 but that made me too sad to post it!

Guys, guys, guys, we're getting a little hopeful, here.

It's totally MP-100.

And Unicron will be MP-666

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:

megatronus wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.

MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad.

It was originally MP-50 but that made me too sad to post it!

Guys, guys, guys, we're getting a little hopeful, here.

It's totally MP-100.

And Unicron will be MP-666

That was pretty clever. Ten internetz to you!

megatronus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't know how but there has to be a way to release rat bat without Soundblaster. Then again there might be more cassettes on the way so this might get a summertime us release.

I highly doubt there will be a release of Ratbat by himself or in a 2-pack. Wingthing, on the other hand...

i think if theres another (takara) two pack MP cassette set released, itll be overkill and slugfest.

i dont see what the gripe over this set is. they are clearly trying to get as much as they can out of every MP mold they design. and soundwave only has two uses. and it makes sense that they would add some incentive to rebuy the mold (ratbat). id say the purple window is just too similar to soundwave, but with the red window he look awesome!

so:
-sweet looking repaint
-awesome mold to begin with
-new tape

that equals a buy to me!

I got the MP-13B now!!

http://www.hk-tf.com/discuz/upload/view ... a=page%3D1

New Seibertron.com member and user of the HK-TF boards hinesika was able to purchase a Takara Transformers Masterpiece MP-13B Soundblaster with Ratbat, and took some photos for everyone to see! Check out the in-hand images of the black repaint of MP-13 Soundwave below with its purple cassetticon bat, view more here, and leave your thoughts in the Energon Pub.

SoundBlaster is going to be a pass unless the price comes down. Just too much money for me to justify.

shajaki wrote:i dont see what the gripe over this set is. they are clearly trying to get as much as they can out of every MP mold they design. and soundwave only has two uses. and it makes sense that they would add some incentive to rebuy the mold (ratbat). id say the purple window is just too similar to soundwave, but with the red window he look awesome!

making most of the ratbat mold would mean catering to 3 categories of clients. Those that don't got soundwave, they can buy sb and ratbat and get the cassettes seperately. Those that got soundwave and won't be spending on sb, but most importantly once these 2 categories have been covered, ratbat mold has a much greater potential than SB. Namely that while SB is a niche toy at a very high price, ratbat can be sold with another cassette for $25. There are few MP's at that price and that makes them more appealing to a wider demographics. I don't think anycompany would miss out on that.

Tracking says mine is cruising around Raleigh somewhere. Today or tomorrow it'll be on my shelf, woot!

I really hope to get MP Soundblaster and Soundwave for my Bithday, I might find some hasbro cassettes online. So excited for these releases!!!!!

*flip flops*

y'know... the more i look at it... i get more and more upset that:
-the red window has no insignia
-the red window has no gold trim
-there isnt a second window topper thats red
what if you wanted the "raised" look with the red window? youre SOL.

with no insignia or gold trim on the red window (which is how i planned to display him) he looks quite... empty. and the red is the best way to distinguish him from soundwave. sure i could reprolabel him an insignia, but this is a masterpiece figure... i shouldnt have to.

I need someone's opinion, who should I get mp soundwave or soundblaster or hasbro mp soundwave?
Are the ko cassettes pretty much spot on in quality?

Redneck Grimlock wrote:I need someone's opinion, who should I get mp soundwave or soundblaster or hasbro mp soundwave?
Are the ko cassettes pretty much spot on in quality?

Hasbro MP Soundwave all the way. Even at $200 it's still a better deal than getting the Takara one and buying the cassettes separate.

Redneck Grimlock wrote:I need someone's opinion, who should I get mp soundwave or soundblaster or hasbro mp soundwave?
Are the ko cassettes pretty much spot on in quality?

It really depends on what you you prefer...

The Takara version is completely faithful to the original American cartoon but comes with just Laserbeak (in addition to the other accessories.) However you can get the other four cassettes from eBay if you don't mind KOs.

The Hasbro version is packed with the same accessories and all five cassettes but has yellow eyes like the old toy.

Soundblaster is redecoed after the character from the Japanese Headmasters series and comes with accessories + just Ratbat (and as of writing this, it's the only way to get Ratbat.)

I'm a fan of the original American cartoon so I went with Takara.

Redneck Grimlock wrote:I need someone's opinion, who should I get mp soundwave or soundblaster or hasbro mp soundwave?
Are the ko cassettes pretty much spot on in quality?

If you don't have any and have to choose, get the Hasbro Soundwave. Easily the most bang for your buck and if you really want a red visor, just grab some paint.

Cyberpath wrote:

Redneck Grimlock wrote:I need someone's opinion, who should I get mp soundwave or soundblaster or hasbro mp soundwave?
Are the ko cassettes pretty much spot on in quality?

It really depends on what you you prefer...

The Takara version is completely faithful to the original American cartoon but comes with just Laserbeak (in addition to the other accessories.) However you can get the other four cassettes from eBay if you don't mind KOs.

1st of all, you can get the official cassettes separate from soundwave in packs of 2 at around 25$ (check the pic from my previous post on this thread). plenty on ebay, not sure why they should be Ko's...

2ndly The Hasbro version comes with all cassettes but ratbat.

3rdly but most importantly u can find the hasbro version at toys r us for some $150.

4 OR... you could buy soundblaster, sell ratbat (before they make him available like other cassettes) for a ridiculous amount of $ and buy the cassettes separately

Susha wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:The Takara version is completely faithful to the original American cartoon but comes with just Laserbeak (in addition to the other accessories.) However you can get the other four cassettes from eBay if you don't mind KOs.

1st of all, you can get the official cassettes separate from soundwave in packs of 2 at around 25$ (check the pic from my previous post on this thread). plenty on ebay, not sure why they should be Ko's...

That's a KO.

Cyberpath wrote:

Susha wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:The Takara version is completely faithful to the original American cartoon but comes with just Laserbeak (in addition to the other accessories.) However you can get the other four cassettes from eBay if you don't mind KOs.

1st of all, you can get the official cassettes separate from soundwave in packs of 2 at around 25$ (check the pic from my previous post on this thread). plenty on ebay, not sure why they should be Ko's...

That's a KO.

http://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-16-frenzy-buzzsaw/

TFsourcecode: MP16FREN/48C
MP-16 - Masterpiece Frenzy & Buzzsaw
by Takara/Tomy

from tf source at some $50. sure out of stock. but looks plenty official...

Susha wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Susha wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:The Takara version is completely faithful to the original American cartoon but comes with just Laserbeak (in addition to the other accessories.) However you can get the other four cassettes from eBay if you don't mind KOs.

1st of all, you can get the official cassettes separate from soundwave in packs of 2 at around 25$ (check the pic from my previous post on this thread). plenty on ebay, not sure why they should be Ko's...

That's a KO.

http://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-16-frenzy-buzzsaw/

TFsourcecode: MP16FREN/48C
MP-16 - Masterpiece Frenzy & Buzzsaw
by Takara/Tomy

from tf source at some $50. sure out of stock. but looks plenty official...

No; I referred to the eBay photo that you linked to in a previous post; the packs of 2 at around $25 that you mentioned; these are KOs.



The knock-off cassettes look the same as the originals. I suspect that perhaps the factory produced extras to sell on eBay as "KOs." It seems that the only difference is that the hand-guns are kind of loose on the punks' backs.

There are some comparison photos in the KO/3rdPaty forum: viewtopic.php?f=215&t=97180

Ok guys, I think I've made my decision, I think if it's fine with my parents I'm getting takara soundwave and maybe the ko sets and or soundblaster! Thanks all!! I might snag prowl and smokescreen if I get the chance. I really want soundwave because he will be my first non seler mold mp
I have hasbro grimlock, acid storm, thundercracker, and skywarp, and Takara Bluestreak.
Thanks again and wish me luck, I fear this might be the near the end of my TF collection since I'm trying to invest in repairing my dads truck for me to drive. It's good and bad but I'll miss all of this! I hope to return to the fandom again! I'll stay around for maybe another year if everything works out!

Stormrider wrote:SoundBlaster is going to be a pass unless the price comes down. Just too much money for me to justify.

I gotta agree with SR. Ratbat should have been a solo release.

Cyberpath wrote:

Susha wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Susha wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:The Takara version is completely faithful to the original American cartoon but comes with just Laserbeak (in addition to the other accessories.) However you can get the other four cassettes from eBay if you don't mind KOs.

1st of all, you can get the official cassettes separate from soundwave in packs of 2 at around 25$ (check the pic from my previous post on this thread). plenty on ebay, not sure why they should be Ko's...

That's a KO.

http://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-16-frenzy-buzzsaw/

TFsourcecode: MP16FREN/48C
MP-16 - Masterpiece Frenzy & Buzzsaw
by Takara/Tomy

from tf source at some $50. sure out of stock. but looks plenty official...

No; I referred to the eBay photo that you linked to in a previous post; the packs of 2 at around $25 that you mentioned; these are KOs.

oneofmanykos.jpg

The knock-off cassettes look the same as the originals. I suspect that perhaps the factory produced extras to sell on eBay as "KOs." It seems that the only difference is that the hand-guns are kind of loose on the punks' backs.

There are some comparison photos in the KO/3rdPaty forum: viewtopic.php?f=215&t=97180

well the way u initially put it made it seem there were no offcial versions of the cassettes which is not the case.

also the way u said it, sort of implied that ALL MP cassettes are KO because you didn't mention KO of soundwave for example
(http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ipe/27775/),
so you didn't warn against KOs in general but just and specifically the cassettes.. dunno kind of confusing

Susha wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Redneck Grimlock wrote:I need someone's opinion, who should I get mp soundwave or soundblaster or hasbro mp soundwave?
Are the ko cassettes pretty much spot on in quality?

It really depends on what you you prefer...

The Takara version is completely faithful to the original American cartoon but comes with just Laserbeak (in addition to the other accessories.) However you can get the other four cassettes from eBay if you don't mind KOs.

1st of all, you can get the official cassettes separate from soundwave in packs of 2 at around 25$ (check the pic from my previous post on this thread). plenty on ebay, not sure why they should be Ko's...

2ndly The Hasbro version comes with all cassettes but ratbat.

3rdly but most importantly u can find the hasbro version at toys r us for some $150.

4 OR... you could buy soundblaster, sell ratbat (before they make him available like other cassettes) for a ridiculous amount of $ and buy the cassettes separately

you show me 1 toysrus that still has one since last year, and ill give you my entire collection. that figure was impossible to find.

VioMeTriX wrote:

Susha wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Redneck Grimlock wrote:I need someone's opinion, who should I get mp soundwave or soundblaster or hasbro mp soundwave?
Are the ko cassettes pretty much spot on in quality?

It really depends on what you you prefer...

The Takara version is completely faithful to the original American cartoon but comes with just Laserbeak (in addition to the other accessories.) However you can get the other four cassettes from eBay if you don't mind KOs.

1st of all, you can get the official cassettes separate from soundwave in packs of 2 at around 25$ (check the pic from my previous post on this thread). plenty on ebay, not sure why they should be Ko's...

2ndly The Hasbro version comes with all cassettes but ratbat.

3rdly but most importantly u can find the hasbro version at toys r us for some $150.

4 OR... you could buy soundblaster, sell ratbat (before they make him available like other cassettes) for a ridiculous amount of $ and buy the cassettes separately

you show me 1 toysrus that still has one since last year, and ill give you my entire collection. that figure was impossible to find.

Completely agree. Anyone expecting to actually find one in a TRU (or spent anything close to retail price) is delusional.

VioMeTriX wrote:

Susha wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Redneck Grimlock wrote:I need someone's opinion, who should I get mp soundwave or soundblaster or hasbro mp soundwave?
Are the ko cassettes pretty much spot on in quality?

It really depends on what you you prefer...

The Takara version is completely faithful to the original American cartoon but comes with just Laserbeak (in addition to the other accessories.) However you can get the other four cassettes from eBay if you don't mind KOs.

1st of all, you can get the official cassettes separate from soundwave in packs of 2 at around 25$ (check the pic from my previous post on this thread). plenty on ebay, not sure why they should be Ko's...

2ndly The Hasbro version comes with all cassettes but ratbat.

3rdly but most importantly u can find the hasbro version at toys r us for some $150.

4 OR... you could buy soundblaster, sell ratbat (before they make him available like other cassettes) for a ridiculous amount of $ and buy the cassettes separately

you show me 1 toysrus that still has one since last year, and ill give you my entire collection. that figure was impossible to find.

Seriously! I've never saw one In stores! All I see are thunder crackers and acid storms, I need to check out my local toys r us I haven't been in a month or two

zodconvoy wrote:

VioMeTriX wrote:

Susha wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

Redneck Grimlock wrote:I need someone's opinion, who should I get mp soundwave or soundblaster or hasbro mp soundwave?
Are the ko cassettes pretty much spot on in quality?

It really depends on what you you prefer...

The Takara version is completely faithful to the original American cartoon but comes with just Laserbeak (in addition to the other accessories.) However you can get the other four cassettes from eBay if you don't mind KOs.

1st of all, you can get the official cassettes separate from soundwave in packs of 2 at around 25$ (check the pic from my previous post on this thread). plenty on ebay, not sure why they should be Ko's...

2ndly The Hasbro version comes with all cassettes but ratbat.

3rdly but most importantly u can find the hasbro version at toys r us for some $150.

4 OR... you could buy soundblaster, sell ratbat (before they make him available like other cassettes) for a ridiculous amount of $ and buy the cassettes separately

you show me 1 toysrus that still has one since last year, and ill give you my entire collection. that figure was impossible to find.

Completely agree. Anyone expecting to actually find one in a TRU (or spent anything close to retail price) is delusional.

Yeah it's not really worth the trouble for a hasbro MP. I think I'll just get takara soundwave and maybe the "ko" sets I'm not paying 70-90 dollars for two cassettes that's outrageous

Crazy maybe but it is the nature of the beast

VioMeTriX wrote:Crazy maybe but it is the nature of the beast

True indeed! It's the only probable solution!

I found my Hasbro MP Soundwave at a TRU store!

No joke.

The box was beat up with an ugly crease going down the front side of it, but it was factory sealed and all the contents inside were A-OK, much to my relief. Never saw another one again, after that, so glad I grabbed it when I did.

Sabrblade wrote:I found my Hasbro MP Spoundwave at a TRU store!

No joke.

The box was beat up with an ugly crease going down the front side of it, but it was factory sealed and all the contents inside were A-OK, much to my relief. Never saw another one again, after that, so glad I grabbed it when I did.

My friend found and picked up mine for me but the box was just beaten to hell. The one corner was just absolutely crushed. Everything inside was fine but it was obvious why it was still there. Still, it was the only one anyone I know ever even found at retail.

zodconvoy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I found my Hasbro MP Spoundwave at a TRU store!

No joke.

The box was beat up with an ugly crease going down the front side of it, but it was factory sealed and all the contents inside were A-OK, much to my relief. Never saw another one again, after that, so glad I grabbed it when I did.

My friend found and picked up mine for me but the box was just beaten to hell. The one corner was just absolutely crushed. Everything inside was fine but it was obvious why it was still there. Still, it was the only one anyone I know ever even found at retail.

i got mine from toys r us (UK)
and in the uk it was listed until a couple of months ago

Susha wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I found my Hasbro MP Spoundwave at a TRU store!

No joke.

The box was beat up with an ugly crease going down the front side of it, but it was factory sealed and all the contents inside were A-OK, much to my relief. Never saw another one again, after that, so glad I grabbed it when I did.

My friend found and picked up mine for me but the box was just beaten to hell. The one corner was just absolutely crushed. Everything inside was fine but it was obvious why it was still there. Still, it was the only one anyone I know ever even found at retail.

i got mine from toys r us (UK)
and in the uk it was listed until a couple of months ago

They were only out for a few weeks at the end of the summer here in the States. It was basically TF collector Darwinism over here.

I'm not sure of the exact reasons, (less demand/customers?) but I remember being told when i was buying mine that not all toys r us stores in uk had him, because they wouldn't even shelf toys above a certain price.
Anyways the end result was that i kept seeing soundvace mp on the TRU uk website for atleast a year after it first appeared. On a side note, currently metroplex is still available but i have no idea if they started putting it on shelfs due to its huge success as they did in us (atleast i read so on seibertron news?).

Susha wrote:I'm not sure of the exact reasons, (less demand/customers?) but I remember being told when i was buying mine that not all toys r us stores in uk had him, because they wouldn't even shelf toys above a certain price.
Anyways the end result was that i kept seeing soundvace mp on the TRU uk website for atleast a year after it first appeared. On a side note, currently metroplex is still available but i have no idea if they started putting it on shelfs due to its huge success as they did in us (atleast i read so on seibertron news?).

I have yet to see hasbro mp soundwave or generations metroplex in person