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Re: MP-13B Soundblaster with Ratbat

Postby Cyberpath » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:51 am

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Hasui: "The chest expansion panel of MP-13B Sound Blaster is removable. The the inner chest panel is toy-accurate clear red."
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby El Duque » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:07 am

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Takara Tomy Masterpiece designer Shogo Hasui has tweeted an image demonstrating MP-14B Soundblaster's optional snap on purple chest piece. The figure comes with a base red chest window for toy accuracy, plus the aforementioned purple chest expansion piece for animation accuracy. The set also includes the brand new Masterpiece Ratbat figure. The figure should be out later this month.

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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:17 am

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Ah ha! So that's how it pulls off the two different colored chests.

And the attachment is reminiscent of both the MP Soundwave version that came with that attachable grid window, as well as being accurate to both the original toy and cartoon model that each had an extended chest window. 8)
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby Maquese » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:26 am

Can't believe it never occurred to me before that this is how they'd pull it off. A little disappointed that there's no Decepticon insignia if you go with the red chest... unless there's a sticker
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby AutoBorst » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:27 am

This is one time I'll hope for a KO production. I want Ratbat but I'm not going to spend another $130.00 for one.
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby zodconvoy » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:05 pm

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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby Stormrider » Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:02 pm

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Re: MP-13B Soundblaster with Ratbat

Postby Cyberpath » Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:03 am

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Hasui posted this comparison photo of MP13B and G1 Ratbat, and added that the former is more cartoon accurate and transforms without extra parts (like MP Laserbeak.)
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MP-13B Soundblaster Additional Images: Closer Look at Ratbat!

Postby Va'al » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:42 am

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Takara designer Shogo Hasui keeps trickling visual information about the upcoming Masterpiece repaint figure MP-13B Soundblaster - and it's time to take a proper look at the cassette Ratbat! Check out the image below, a comparison of the original G1 cassette and the one included in the release.

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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby RiddlerJ » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:10 am

Want that Ratbat soooo baaaad. :sad:
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby Rated X » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:39 am

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Ill never get the logic behind the MP scale. Soundwave doubles in size, but the cassettes stay the same and retain G1 toy scale ? Dumb as hell but it works for me since the cassettes scale perfect with classics. I really want that ratbat without having to buy another useless coffee table figure. KO guys please make it happen...
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby reluctantyouth » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:24 am

I 2nd the KO idea please :grin: ...not going to buy a repaint mold just for Ratbat :-x . I already have 4 Masterpiece Soundwave (1 open and keeping the other three in box) :-B .


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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby TimothyR » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:00 am

Rated X wrote:Ill never get the logic behind the MP scale. Soundwave doubles in size, but the cassettes stay the same and retain G1 toy scale ? Dumb as hell but it works for me since the cassettes scale perfect with classics. I really want that ratbat without having to buy another useless coffee table figure. KO guys please make it happen...


really?.. you don't understand the logic behind the MP scale.. what is it that you don't understand?.. is it that they didn't want to make MP soundwaves chest gigantic, but rather keep it relatively in scale to itself?.. or that they wanted MP soundwave to obtain the ability to house the cassettes in his chest.. which, leads me back to my first point..

so.. again, which don't you understand?

not sure how it's "dumb as hell".. but hey, you can continue to believe it.
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:10 am

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Rated X wrote:Ill never get the logic behind the MP scale. Soundwave doubles in size, but the cassettes stay the same and retain G1 toy scale ? Dumb as hell but it works for me since the cassettes scale perfect with classics. I really want that ratbat without having to buy another useless coffee table figure. KO guys please make it happen...
Isn't it obvious? It's for backtrack compatibility with the G1 Soundwave and Blaster toys. It's to give them an extra level of playability across both lines to let them each use each other's cassettes.

It's the same reason that the Ravage that came with Universe Hound was likewise scaled to fit inside G1 Soundwave's chest (though, specifically the remolded chest version, which Hasbro did release at TRU during Classics).

Not to mention that the G1 Soundwave chest was proportionately huge compared to the rest of his body. Guy looked liked billboard with limbs and a head. :P But keeping that chest door size scaled as it was and upscaling the rest of his body brings out a more reasonably proportioned bot, with proportions that not only look more natural but also match up with his cartoon model proportions. Otherwise, had G1 Soundwave been proportionally-correct from the beginning, either his G1 toy would have already been MP-sized (like G1 Blaster's toy was) or his chest door and cassettes would have been teeny-tiny. ;)
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:06 am

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I don't know how but there has to be a way to release rat bat without Soundblaster. Then again there might be more cassettes on the way so this might get a summertime us release.
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby megatronus » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:57 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I don't know how but there has to be a way to release rat bat without Soundblaster. Then again there might be more cassettes on the way so this might get a summertime us release.

I highly doubt there will be a release of Ratbat by himself or in a 2-pack. Wingthing, on the other hand...
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby Rated X » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:35 am

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Rated X wrote:Ill never get the logic behind the MP scale. Soundwave doubles in size, but the cassettes stay the same and retain G1 toy scale ? Dumb as hell but it works for me since the cassettes scale perfect with classics. I really want that ratbat without having to buy another useless coffee table figure. KO guys please make it happen...


really?.. you don't understand the logic behind the MP scale.. what is it that you don't understand?.. is it that they didn't want to make MP soundwaves chest gigantic, but rather keep it relatively in scale to itself?.. or that they wanted MP soundwave to obtain the ability to house the cassettes in his chest.. which, leads me back to my first point..

so.. again, which don't you understand?

not sure how it's "dumb as hell".. but hey, you can continue to believe it.


I didn't think it took a rocket scientist to realize that by not enlarging the cassettes, cartoon scale was sacrificed for "playability". in my honest opinion, playability was for kids toys (hence G1 toy scale) If Takara chose the toy scale over the cartoon scale, they dropped the ball. The MP line was supposed to be cartoon accurate. Am I the only adult on here who just displays $150 figures rather than "playing" with them ? Either way it works for me because now the casettes are really classics scale which is what I collect. MP Soundwave hangs out in the vintage cabinet next to his G1 counterpart still waiting to be transformed for the first time. One of these days...
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby mooncake623 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:07 am

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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby zodconvoy » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:34 am

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Rated X wrote:I didn't think it took a rocket scientist to realize that by not enlarging the cassettes, cartoon scale was sacrificed for "playability". in my honest opinion, playability was for kids toys (hence G1 toy scale) If Takara chose the toy scale over the cartoon scale, they dropped the ball. The MP line was supposed to be cartoon accurate. Am I the only adult on here who just displays $150 figures rather than "playing" with them ? Either way it works for me because now the casettes are really classics scale which is what I collect. MP Soundwave hangs out in the vintage cabinet next to his G1 counterpart still waiting to be transformed for the first time. One of these days...


Okay, in the cartoon Rumble (yes, the blue one) was about the same size as Spike, maybe a little taller. Scaling him to Spike would have made Rumble about an inch and a half tall. But at the same time, they show him as nearly as tall as Hound. And Bumblebee is a full sized car that ends up maybe 7' tall in robot mode.

Then there's this:
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But aside from all of the sliding scales and mass-shifting, there is a very practical reason for the cassettes to be that size:

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Laserbeak has to be the right size to interact with Soundwave (and eventually Megatron). Like 80% of Laserbeak's purpose in the series is to show who is in command of the Decepticons. He's been on my Soundwave's arm pretty much since I got them and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby megatronus » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:38 am

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zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.


MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad. :-(
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby zodconvoy » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:10 pm

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zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.


MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad. :-(


It was originally MP-50 but that made me too sad to post it! :-(
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Postby Samsonator » Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:51 pm

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Agreed, man... the scale of the cassettes never bothered me, as in the show there was never a consistent size to them in the first place, except Laserbeak's shoulder/arm perching. the MP Laserbeak fits that scale perfectly, and the other cassettes scale with him so they all have the same sized cassette mode. Makes completely logical sense to me.
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:44 pm

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I didn't realize the MP Cassettes were the same size as the G1 Cassettes. This changes things for me, at least. I actually like Soundblaster's colors better than Soundwave, so I was gonna buy him for Ratbat, and just use him as my Soundwave. But now that I know the cassettes are the same size, I might pass or just wait a while until he is cheaper. I'm contemplating picking up a complete G1 Ratbat instead, it would still be a lot cheaper than the MP, even if it doesn't look as good or it isn't as accurate.
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Re: MP-14B Soundblaster with Ratbat and MP-12G G2 Sideswipe Official Images!

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zodconvoy wrote:...and he's probably going to stay there until MP-30 Megatron comes out.


MP-30? Your realistic expectations makes me sad. :-(


It was originally MP-50 but that made me too sad to post it! :-(


Guys, guys, guys, we're getting a little hopeful, here.

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