More In-Hand and Comparisons Images - Transformers Generations Leader Class Thundercracker

i think he looks pretty damn cool

I like that sci-fi background in the comparison shots.

What a downgrade from MP Thundercracker which already exists.

Odd choice of comparison figures...it's like photographing a Chevy Malibu with luxury European sports cars. The one is just out of place with the others...

Also I have to add that looking at these particular pics makes me believe the MP line did nothing to improve the scale debates argued about the classics line. Its just another mismatched hybrid between cartoon and vintage toy scale combined with real world alt mode scale that doesnt look so good side by side. The only difference is now the mismatched scales take up more space on your shelf.

Rated X wrote:Also I have to add that looking at these particular pics makes me believe the MP line did nothing to improve the scale debates argued about the classics line. Its just another mismatched hybrid between cartoon and vintage toy scale combined with real world alt mode scale that doesnt look so good side by side. The only difference is now the mismatched scales take up more space on your shelf.

Transformers will always be out of scale g1 ultra Magnus side by side comaprison next to metroplex and bruticus, my Theroy on mp figures there not made to be in scale with transformers series maybe in scale with other mp figures but mp figures are more to adult oriented with higher price rage higher complex transformation more detail, while everything leader class and below is aimed at kids oriented which scale does not matter to kids transformers will never be in scale if that where true they cost more to make buy for fans Tamara gave fans mp series high in detail, price, transformation, but for average collector who plays don't care about scale that is what non mp series is for kids

I'm excited for Thundercracker. The coneheads could definitely use some more love, though.

Rated X wrote:Also I have to add that looking at these particular pics makes me believe the MP line did nothing to improve the scale debates argued about the classics line. Its just another mismatched hybrid between cartoon and vintage toy scale combined with real world alt mode scale that doesnt look so good side by side. The only difference is now the mismatched scales take up more space on your shelf.

Right. Because MP Starscream being a few heads taller than MP Prowl or MP Sideswipe is totally not an improvement over Classics Starscream being a couple heads shorter than Universe Prowl or Universe Sideswipe.

fenrir72 wrote:

That Bot wrote:How many times has White Optimus Prime with Armor as Magnus appeared in any G1 fiction? The only instance I know of is briefly in Dreamwave. Apparently in the Classics comics he's a white Prime with no armor, but that's a different issue altogether.

But still, he did exist in toyform. Not no hung up over it btw. Just an inference on why chuck waxed nostalgic. Me? Already have the MP version. Btw, also planning to get this sucker........only the Tomy version that is.

I understand wanting to emulate what the old toy did, and I think it would have been cool if the Masterpiece did this, but at the same time, they're going mostly off the cartoon, where Magnus transformed directly from truck to patriotic robot and there was never any indication of a smaller robot in armor. Most fiction has adopted this view, including the IDW comics which Leader Magnus is most heavily based on. Also, I think from an engineering standpoint, it's easier to design something that transforms fluidly from one mode to another without having to worry about separating and combining into armor and stuff, which is important for selling to kids.

This Thundercracker looks amazing.






On a different note, isn't the Leader class Megatron supposed to come with a sticker sheet? Mine came with a painted Decepticon symbol.

Kibble wrote:Odd choice of comparison figures...it's like photographing a Chevy Malibu with luxury European sports cars. The one is just out of place with the others...

My cars was Malibu...lasted me 15 years and put a lot of miles on it. and I'd rather take that than an overpriced euro car any day. So in other words, it was worth it to me.

There is an analogy in there somewhere.

My list of reasons to buy the MP Seekers grows ever smaller. 3x cheaper and IDW inspired? Bring it on, Hasbro. I just hope they at least make the original 3 Seekers...

Maxine Prime wrote:My list of reasons to buy the MP Seekers grows ever smaller. 3x cheaper and IDW inspired? Bring it on, Hasbro. I just hope they at least make the original 3 Seekers...

They'll make Starscream for sure, at the very least. The comics keep teasing that Starscream is in store for yet another body swap.

Thundercracker keeps looking better, Maybe we could get a Ramjet, Dirge or Thrust out of this mould or even all three but that’s being way to optimistic.

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:This Thundercracker looks amazing.






On a different note, isn't the Leader class Megatron supposed to come with a sticker sheet? Mine came with a painted Decepticon symbol.

I believe it's in with the collectors card.

why those looooong legs and short body?

He looks really nice with the MP seekers! I've always preferred my seekers to be different physically when displayed on the shelf, repaints get kinda boring (blasphemy, I know).

Maxine Prime wrote:My list of reasons to buy the MP Seekers grows ever smaller. 3x cheaper and IDW inspired? Bring it on, Hasbro. I just hope they at least make the original 3 Seekers...

This. I also prefer IDW Ultra Magnus to Masterpiece Ultra Magnus

Optimizzy wrote:My cars was Malibu...lasted me 15 years and put a lot of miles on it. and I'd rather take that than an overpriced euro car any day. So in other words, it was worth it to me.

There is an analogy in there somewhere.

You're also factoring in the cost of a $20k vs a $250k car...if someone was offering you one for free or the same price, you'd take the overpriced Euro car any day. In the case of these, the price difference isn't all that great. These leader figs are running like $50 now. MPs can be bought from $45 - $120 these days.

Kibble wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:My cars was Malibu...lasted me 15 years and put a lot of miles on it. and I'd rather take that than an overpriced euro car any day. So in other words, it was worth it to me.

There is an analogy in there somewhere.

You're also factoring in the cost of a $20k vs a $250k car...if someone was offering you one for free or the same price, you'd take the overpriced Euro car any day. In the case of these, the price difference isn't all that great. These leader figs are running like $50 now. MPs can be bought from $45 - $120 these days.

It's rather from 45$ to 200$. That's what MP Ultra Magnus, MP-Asia skywarp, MP Platinum Soundwave and Star Saber cost. And that's without counting shipping.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Kibble wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:My cars was Malibu...lasted me 15 years and put a lot of miles on it. and I'd rather take that than an overpriced euro car any day. So in other words, it was worth it to me.

There is an analogy in there somewhere.

You're also factoring in the cost of a $20k vs a $250k car...if someone was offering you one for free or the same price, you'd take the overpriced Euro car any day. In the case of these, the price difference isn't all that great. These leader figs are running like $50 now. MPs can be bought from $45 - $120 these days.

It's rather from 45$ to 200$. That's what MP Ultra Magnus, MP-Asia skywarp, MP Platinum Soundwave and Star Saber cost. And that's without counting shipping.

Also I paid $3k for my car. And yeah, MPs are ridiculous. I got the first MP 01 for $70 and I thought that was high back then. $180? No thanks. It's just not worth it to some of us. To those that it is worth it, that's fine. But some of us are after the toys. Not the expensive collectables.

megatronus wrote:I'm excited for Thundercracker. The coneheads could definitely use some more love, though.

Rated X wrote:Also I have to add that looking at these particular pics makes me believe the MP line did nothing to improve the scale debates argued about the classics line. Its just another mismatched hybrid between cartoon and vintage toy scale combined with real world alt mode scale that doesnt look so good side by side. The only difference is now the mismatched scales take up more space on your shelf.

Right. Because MP Starscream being a few heads taller than MP Prowl or MP Sideswipe is totally not an improvement over Classics Starscream being a couple heads shorter than Universe Prowl or Universe Sideswipe.

Some have their hung ups with sitting or leg spreading........so others have scale to bloviate against ..........

He is here.



Yet I find myself a little disappointed. In hand, the arm cannon just doesn't cut it. Feels like a horrendous fail. It's really eating at me.

Other than that, this figure is great. The overall body design is faithful to the comic tank Meg's, and the head sculpt is so spot on, it damn near makes up for the puny cannon.

Ironhidensh wrote:{snip}
Yet I find myself a little disappointed. In hand, the arm cannon just doesn't cut it. Feels like a horrendous fail. It's really eating at me.

Other than that, this figure is great. The overall body design is faithful to the comic tank Meg's, and the head sculpt is so spot on, it damn near makes up for the puny cannon.

I am with you here! I just opened mine, and while the head is near perfect, the body is not bad, and the alt mode is awesome, that arm cannon is all kinds of bad. Even turning it around does nothing for me. I'm thinking of coming up with a mod somehow where I can remove the inner barrel, at least while in bot mode...

I can bet a dollar that a 3rd party company will come up with a canon upgrade kit for Gen Leader Megs.

In the neantime, I hope I can buy the freggin' thing locally at the norml price instead of either having to overpai for it, or being stuck to buy Armada Megs as an extra in a 2 pack.

So true!

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:This Thundercracker looks amazing.






On a different note, isn't the Leader class Megatron supposed to come with a sticker sheet? Mine came with a painted Decepticon symbol.

That Jetfire mold should be repainted as Starscream and Skywarp.

That Jetfire mold should be repainted as Starscream and Skywarp.

Starscream is eyeing that body in the comics, so we're almost certainly getting one of him. Skywarp will probably follow in 2016.

Well, I wasn't to hip to Leader Thundercracker, but I like it the more I see it, it looks enough like the IDW art for my taste. Though, I really wanna know more about that Harley Quinn in the background of those shots.

That Jetfire mold should be repainted as Starscream and Skywarp.

Rated X wrote:Also I have to add that looking at these particular pics makes me believe the MP line did nothing to improve the scale debates argued about the classics line. Its just another mismatched hybrid between cartoon and vintage toy scale combined with real world alt mode scale that doesnt look so good side by side. The only difference is now the mismatched scales take up more space on your shelf.

Rated X wrote:What a downgrade from MP Thundercracker which already exists.

Why are you jumping in and out of all the bigger toys sizes Generations, Masterpiece and Third party threads. With over Fifty similar bashing hate comments a week, in over Twenty different threads a week?

Is their a reason, goal or motivation. That makes you waste so much of your time doing this?

Ironhidensh wrote:He is here.



Yet I find myself a little disappointed. In hand, the arm cannon just doesn't cut it. Feels like a horrendous fail. It's really eating at me.

Other than that, this figure is great. The overall body design is faithful to the comic tank Meg's, and the head sculpt is so spot on, it damn near makes up for the puny cannon.

The lower legs don't bother you? Those big gray pieces kill it for me, along with the cannon. That's why I passed on this.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:Also I have to add that looking at these particular pics makes me believe the MP line did nothing to improve the scale debates argued about the classics line. Its just another mismatched hybrid between cartoon and vintage toy scale combined with real world alt mode scale that doesnt look so good side by side. The only difference is now the mismatched scales take up more space on your shelf.

Rated X wrote:What a downgrade from MP Thundercracker which already exists.

Why are you jumping in and out of all the bigger toys sizes Generations, Masterpiece and Third party threads. With over Fifty similar bashing hate comments a week, in over Twenty different threads a week?

Is their a reason, goal or motivation. That makes you waste so much of your time doing this?

Throw him a bone tsu. This gives his microcosm of a collectors life some meaning. No MPs, only Voyagers and no crappy Hasbro releases.And anouncing to the world that he still exists.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:He is here.



Yet I find myself a little disappointed. In hand, the arm cannon just doesn't cut it. Feels like a horrendous fail. It's really eating at me.

Other than that, this figure is great. The overall body design is faithful to the comic tank Meg's, and the head sculpt is so spot on, it damn near makes up for the puny cannon.

The lower legs don't bother you? Those big gray pieces kill it for me, along with the cannon. That's why I passed on this.

RP. Don't be too harsh on Megs. Remember how you didn't like Jetfire? I recall you got him on sale. Iirc you now love the mold. Megs too.......really awesome1 I still don't own one but from what I saw of him in box from a local specialty shop.......looks really great. Holding out you the Tomy version (price of the import going just the same rate as the local specialty shops. You won't regret it.

Is that g1 Shockwave in that pic?

I was able to pick up CW Leader Megatron a few weeks ago at my local TRU and he has since replaced MP05 on my MP Decepticon shelf. I just like him there. He's too big for my CHUG shelf, which needs to be COMPLETELY "R&R'ed"

CW Megs has grooves on his arm which I was REALLY hoping lined up with Laserbeak's talon grooves. They do not. I'm gonna like him even better when I get the upgrade kit from DX9! (thanks to TSU for posting about that in the 3P forum)

fenrir72 wrote:RP. Don't be too harsh on Megs. Remember how you didn't like Jetfire? I recall you got him on sale. Iirc you now love the mold. Megs too.......really awesome1 I still don't own one but from what I saw of him in box from a local specialty shop.......looks really great. Holding out you the Tomy version (price of the import going just the same rate as the local specialty shops. You won't regret it.

Well, I didn't think Jetfire was worth $45, and I don't think Megatron is either. I did get Jetfire for $25, thanks to another member here. I like the mold, but more as Thundercracker. As Jetfire, it's acceptable. As for Megatron, I don't know what purpose those big gray pieces serve, but couldn't they be painted at least the same as the lower legs? The gray is just too out of place for me. The cannon I could deal with, but those gray pieces are just too distracting to me. I have yet to see this figure in person, so maybe once I get it in-hand, I might think about it some more. But as it is, it's a pass.

Wheeljack808 wrote:Is that g1 Shockwave in that pic?

No. It's the third party MP-esque Quakewave figure.

Sabrblade wrote:

Wheeljack808 wrote:Is that g1 Shockwave in that pic?

No. It's the third party MP-esque Quakewave figure.

.....which would be G1 Shockwave.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Wheeljack808 wrote:Is that g1 Shockwave in that pic?

No. It's the third party MP-esque Quakewave figure.

.....which would be G1 Shockwave.

Toy, not character, is what was being asked.

Sabrblade wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Wheeljack808 wrote:Is that g1 Shockwave in that pic?

No. It's the third party MP-esque Quakewave figure.

.....which would be G1 Shockwave.

Toy, not character, is what was being asked.

Exactly this, and I only asked because there really needs to be a Masterpiece Shockwave. That would be an insta-buy for me.

Wheeljack808 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Wheeljack808 wrote:Is that g1 Shockwave in that pic?

No. It's the third party MP-esque Quakewave figure.

.....which would be G1 Shockwave.

Toy, not character, is what was being asked.

Exactly this, and I only asked because there really needs to be a Masterpiece Shockwave. That would be an insta-buy for me.

But, Fans Toys Quakewave is a Masterpiece Transformers toy. Years ago it even sold for $130. Which was far less than Takara would have sold a Masterpiece Transformer toy like this.

Fans Toys even tried to match the Quakewave toy to the Sculpting Aesthetics of the HasTak Masterpiece Transformers toy line.

Think Quakewave is such a great Masterpiece update toy. That its going to be hard for Hastak to make a better Masterpiece toy version.

That's odd. I thought it was 200 at the time

That Bot wrote:Starscream is eyeing that body in the comics, so we're almost certainly getting one of him. Skywarp will probably follow in 2016.

I didn't think he'd get another redesign so soon.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:But, Fans Toys Quakewave is a Masterpiece Transformers toy.

No it isn't. It's no more any kind of Transformers toy than any other third party stuff is.

Sabrblade wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:But, Fans Toys Quakewave is a Masterpiece Transformers toy.

No it isn't. It's no more any kind of Transformers toy than any other third party stuff is.

That's debatable. From a legal trademark standpoint, sure. Any toy that transforms from one form to another, and faithfully represents a beloved character though, I would say Is a transformer.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:But, Fans Toys Quakewave is a Masterpiece Transformers toy.

No it isn't. It's no more any kind of Transformers toy than any other third party stuff is.

That's debatable. From a legal trademark standpoint, sure. Any toy that transforms from one form to another, and faithfully represents a beloved character though, I would say Is a transformer.

So, a Macross Veritech is a Transformers.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:But, Fans Toys Quakewave is a Masterpiece Transformers toy.

No it isn't. It's no more any kind of Transformers toy than any other third party stuff is.

That's debatable. From a legal trademark standpoint, sure. Any toy that transforms from one form to another, and faithfully represents a beloved character though, I would say Is a transformer.

So, a Macross Veritech is a Transformers.

*coughG1Jetfirecough*

Sorry, I think my allergies might be starting to manifest....

Looking at my G1 Megatron. what do y'all think? Is the entire figure painted silver, or cast in silver plastic?
The over all tone and texture is really nice.

Cobotron wrote:Looking at my G1 Megatron. what do y'all think? Is the entire figure painted silver, or cast in silver plastic?
The over all tone and texture is really nice.

Scrape it and find out.