More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys
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We have an update to the previous two Transformers: The Last Knight toy news stories, featuring Barricade, Berserker, and Bumblebee, thanks to the same Italian fan and via Vietnamese Facebook user Danh Le - the original source of all the images seen so far, at last! - a whole new load of photos, showing off the figures next to each other out of package, confirming their sizes. Check them out mirrored below.
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Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854657)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:02pm CST
In Snarl's case, not really. Only one minor part tree has been switched from green to black, but it does make him resembled his stock image more.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:02pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Have the TT movie toys actually been better in the past? I am talking about the ones that mirror the mainline. Looking at AOE, can anyone really tell me if one is better than the other for snarl below?
Transformers Age of Extinction: Generations Snarl Gallery
In Snarl's case, not really. Only one minor part tree has been switched from green to black, but it does make him resembled his stock image more.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854661)
Posted by Kurona on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:08pm CST
The added grey does help, but it's not dealbreaker.
Posted by Kurona on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:08pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Have the TT movie toys actually been better in the past? I am talking about the ones that mirror the mainline. Looking at AOE, can anyone really tell me if one is better than the other for snarl below?
Transformers Age of Extinction: Generations Snarl Gallery
The added grey does help, but it's not dealbreaker.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854664)
Posted by Evil Eye on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:13pm CST
Posted by Evil Eye on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:13pm CST
So the backpack DOES fold up...or is this a different toy?
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854666)
Posted by Spazonator17 on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:22pm CST
Given how the backpack looks in the other pictures and the style of his other accessories, I assume it's detachable as a riot shield.
Posted by Spazonator17 on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:22pm CST
Black Hat wrote:So the backpack DOES fold up...or is this a different toy?
Given how the backpack looks in the other pictures and the style of his other accessories, I assume it's detachable as a riot shield.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854669)
Posted by Zeedust on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:28pm CST
Way back during Cybertron, I broke the spikes on both the Ultra and Legends version of Scourge somehow. I can live with the rubber.
Posted by Zeedust on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:28pm CST
DeathReviews wrote:Every time I see cool spiky bits on a transformer figure now, I have to shake my head and remind myself: 'soft rubber'.
Way back during Cybertron, I broke the spikes on both the Ultra and Legends version of Scourge somehow. I can live with the rubber.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854671)
Posted by It Is Him on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:29pm CST
Posted by It Is Him on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:29pm CST
Yikes. Hopefully we get something better than these. They do not inspire confidence.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854681)
Posted by RAR on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:40pm CST
Posted by RAR on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:40pm CST
I like Barry's Speedstars/RPM Toy car dark blue deco as a novelty - I expect the normal version or a later boxed set will be basic black though.
Head looks zip like Barry though.
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The 3rd dread is unexpected but makes a crazy kind of sense.
The shoulder spines seem to suggest he's the short haired one that isn't the doggie like Hatchet or the long hair Crankcase.
But going backwards like this is a very favourable sign to me as it might me toys of the loads of characters who never got them done at all or if they did they were something like a PVC or a static figure.
So yeah a Thumbs up for Berzerker. I wonder if they plan to do a Doggie Hatchet - with a SUV vehicle mode too ?
Fingers crossed for a new mould 1970's Bee. Though I'd have liked that in the brand hayday of 2010 not now when Hasbro make cheap tat a lot of the time than I'd like.
But this isn't a million miles away from DOTM deluxe quality so I'm not going to scream the house down over the averageness of them.
Besides they may not even come out in the UK at all. But aside from the lazy Bee repaint - I'm pleased to see ANY Decepticons.
Head looks zip like Barry though.
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The 3rd dread is unexpected but makes a crazy kind of sense.
The shoulder spines seem to suggest he's the short haired one that isn't the doggie like Hatchet or the long hair Crankcase.
But going backwards like this is a very favourable sign to me as it might me toys of the loads of characters who never got them done at all or if they did they were something like a PVC or a static figure.
So yeah a Thumbs up for Berzerker. I wonder if they plan to do a Doggie Hatchet - with a SUV vehicle mode too ?
Fingers crossed for a new mould 1970's Bee. Though I'd have liked that in the brand hayday of 2010 not now when Hasbro make cheap tat a lot of the time than I'd like.
But this isn't a million miles away from DOTM deluxe quality so I'm not going to scream the house down over the averageness of them.
Besides they may not even come out in the UK at all. But aside from the lazy Bee repaint - I'm pleased to see ANY Decepticons.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854685)
Posted by Deadput on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:46pm CST
Are we still at the stage where the fandom is praising the oh so perfect Takara master race?
Might as well as close Hasbro and just let Japan handle everything because everyone hates everything the movies suck the tv shows suck the hasbro toys suck why are Hasbro making plastic toys for kids still eh I'm sure they can ignore the budget their allowed to have magically to give premium hand painted masterpiece quality figures for $10.00 don't see how that could fail or bankrupt them.
When it comes to movie toys Takara hardly makes a bigger difference with their paint.
Posted by Deadput on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:46pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:So these are the 'Premier Edition' figures, guess tf's are officially trash now, looks like I got a job just in time to start buying stuff from TT, thanks hasblow
Hellscream9999 wrote: thanks hasblow
Are we still at the stage where the fandom is praising the oh so perfect Takara master race?
Might as well as close Hasbro and just let Japan handle everything because everyone hates everything the movies suck the tv shows suck the hasbro toys suck why are Hasbro making plastic toys for kids still eh I'm sure they can ignore the budget their allowed to have magically to give premium hand painted masterpiece quality figures for $10.00 don't see how that could fail or bankrupt them.
When it comes to movie toys Takara hardly makes a bigger difference with their paint.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854686)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:47pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:47pm CST
Ok, so.
Dangit Barricade, why did you need to be one of those special edition figures? I really like you.
Bee: What the hell is up with the colors. that looks bad.
Beserker: looks like a new mold dread. Doesn't look overly good with the colors, but the molding itself looks really cool. Now will he be in the movie?
Dangit Barricade, why did you need to be one of those special edition figures? I really like you.
Bee: What the hell is up with the colors. that looks bad.
Beserker: looks like a new mold dread. Doesn't look overly good with the colors, but the molding itself looks really cool. Now will he be in the movie?
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854690)
Posted by Evil Eye on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:59pm CST
Considering that most of their output is categorically superior, yes. Look at TR Blurr vs Legends Blurr.
That might be the only sensible thing you've ever said.
The real question is "Why are they making plastic toys for kids that are so much worse than they used to be".
Yes, we get it, Hasbro shill. You think we should all just suck up whatever gets thrown at us, no matter how terrible. But thank you for #CorrectingTheRecord either way!
Get your eyes checked, mate.
Seriously though. You've said before you don't buy the toys. Why do you even still post here?
Posted by Evil Eye on January 25th, 2017 @ 5:59pm CST
Deadput wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:So these are the 'Premier Edition' figures, guess tf's are officially trash now, looks like I got a job just in time to start buying stuff from TT, thanks hasblowHellscream9999 wrote: thanks hasblow
Are we still at the stage where the fandom is praising the oh so perfect Takara master race?
Considering that most of their output is categorically superior, yes. Look at TR Blurr vs Legends Blurr.
Might as well as close Hasbro and just let Japan handle everything because everyone hates everything the movies suck the tv shows suck the hasbro toys suck
That might be the only sensible thing you've ever said.
why are Hasbro making plastic toys for kids still eh
The real question is "Why are they making plastic toys for kids that are so much worse than they used to be".
I'm sure they can ignore the budget their allowed to have magically to give premium hand painted masterpiece quality figures for $10.00 don't see how that could fail or bankrupt them.
Yes, we get it, Hasbro shill. You think we should all just suck up whatever gets thrown at us, no matter how terrible. But thank you for #CorrectingTheRecord either way!
When it comes to movie toys Takara hardly makes a bigger difference with their paint.
Get your eyes checked, mate.
Seriously though. You've said before you don't buy the toys. Why do you even still post here?
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854691)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2017 @ 6:11pm CST
To be entirely transparent I didn't mean this explicitly towards movie toys, more along the lines of 'the straw that broke the camels back', I've had enough of crappy hasbro figures with crappy non-deco's. My second silverbolt's cockpit has already split from the strain of holding a screw in place, and now whole 'premier' lines without paint apps, and the advent of these crappy new stickers in lieu of paint apps , yeah, eff tf's
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2017 @ 6:11pm CST
Black Hat wrote:Deadput wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:So these are the 'Premier Edition' figures, guess tf's are officially trash now, looks like I got a job just in time to start buying stuff from TT, thanks hasblowHellscream9999 wrote: thanks hasblow
Are we still at the stage where the fandom is praising the oh so perfect Takara master race?
Considering that most of their output is categorically superior, yes. Look at TR Blurr vs Legends Blurr.
To be entirely transparent I didn't mean this explicitly towards movie toys, more along the lines of 'the straw that broke the camels back', I've had enough of crappy hasbro figures with crappy non-deco's. My second silverbolt's cockpit has already split from the strain of holding a screw in place, and now whole 'premier' lines without paint apps, and the advent of these crappy new stickers in lieu of paint apps , yeah, eff tf's
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854699)
Posted by Deadput on January 25th, 2017 @ 6:38pm CST
Ignoring your insults this time
For most movie toys they don't Will showed an example of that a few posts ago.
And when did I say I don't buy the toys eh? I buy them when I get money which in the past wasn't often but now I've been buying a whole lot figures in the last few months then I have the rest of my life.
Posted by Deadput on January 25th, 2017 @ 6:38pm CST
Black Hat wrote:Considering that most of their output is categorically superior, yes. Look at TR Blurr vs Legends Blurr.
Hasbro Blurr is fine if your not looking for Cartoon accurate colors.Black Hat wrote:That might be the only sensible thing you've ever said.
I'm being sarcastic dude I like the movies and shows why would I defend them otherwise think about eh?Black Hat wrote:The real question is "Why are they making plastic toys for kids that are so much worse than they used to be".Do you know how much less plastic and materiel's they have compared to years ago right?
Do you even get how they make toys?
Do you realize that we are not supposed to even be buying them?Black Hat wrote:
Yes, we get it, Hasbro shill. You think we should all just suck up whatever gets thrown at us, no matter how terrible. But thank you for #CorrectingTheRecord either way!
Did you just call me a goddamn shill for being sick of the fanatics whining about stupid paint on plastic figures?
You don't have to like it your opinions are your own but calling something Has-Blow is immature and the consent whining that all Hasbro figures suck because it aint their golden child hood days anymore is annoying.Black Hat wrote:Get your eyes checked, mate.
Seriously though. You've said before you don't buy the toys. Why do you even still post here?
Ignoring your insults this time
For most movie toys they don't Will showed an example of that a few posts ago.
And when did I say I don't buy the toys eh? I buy them when I get money which in the past wasn't often but now I've been buying a whole lot figures in the last few months then I have the rest of my life.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854703)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 25th, 2017 @ 6:47pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 25th, 2017 @ 6:47pm CST
Normal legs? Recognizable hands? limbs that are in proper proportion? I must be sitting in a beam of light, this is a miracle. Bumblebee looks the same as the AOE figure, but I'd like to get my hands on Barricade.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854706)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 25th, 2017 @ 6:59pm CST
Not so for the Dread, he may be digitigrade judging from how the foot is positioned:
Cluck, cluck
Bumblebee is a straight redeco, just warning you. And they're all Deluxes.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 25th, 2017 @ 6:59pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Normal legs? Recognizable hands? limbs that are in proper proportion?
Not so for the Dread, he may be digitigrade judging from how the foot is positioned:
Cluck, cluck
Bumblebee looks the same as the AOE figure, but I'd like to get my hands on Barricade.
Bumblebee is a straight redeco, just warning you. And they're all Deluxes.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854708)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2017 @ 7:01pm CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2017 @ 7:01pm CST
The dread looks pretty cool, be nice to see TT's version, or a hasbro one with a coherent deco.
Barricade just looks weird without his pointy face, and those brass knuckles are just laughably weird.
Barricade just looks weird without his pointy face, and those brass knuckles are just laughably weird.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854709)
Posted by Deadput on January 25th, 2017 @ 7:03pm CST
I thought we hated the bug faces because it wasn't anything like the old stuff but now that it is we suddenly want it the other way again.
Funny how that works.
Posted by Deadput on January 25th, 2017 @ 7:03pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:The dread looks pretty cool, be nice to see TT's version, or a hasbro one with a coherent deco.
Barricade just looks weird without his pointy face, and those brass knuckles are just laughably weird.
I thought we hated the bug faces because it wasn't anything like the old stuff but now that it is we suddenly want it the other way again.
Funny how that works.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854710)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2017 @ 7:05pm CST
Clearly you don't know anything about me, but, if it was a joke/sarcasm, I appreciate the attempt. I actually love the movie designs (1-3) bug faces and everything, even the weirdest rotf designs
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2017 @ 7:05pm CST
Deadput wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:The dread looks pretty cool, be nice to see TT's version, or a hasbro one with a coherent deco.
Barricade just looks weird without his pointy face, and those brass knuckles are just laughably weird.
I thought we hated the bug faces because it wasn't anything like the old stuff but now that it is we suddenly want it the other way again.
Funny how that works.
Clearly you don't know anything about me, but, if it was a joke/sarcasm, I appreciate the attempt. I actually love the movie designs (1-3) bug faces and everything, even the weirdest rotf designs
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Posted by Deadput on January 25th, 2017 @ 7:11pm CST
Don't worry it's a cynical joke based on irony that some people wanted something one way but now different people want it the other way.
I guess I should use more emotes eh?
I personally love the movie designs that try to be something new and inventive for Transformers did any G1 character have wheel feet and wrist blades and be something besides a blocky metal human?
Posted by Deadput on January 25th, 2017 @ 7:11pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Clearly you don't know anything about me, but, if it was a joke/sarcasm, I appreciate the attempt. I actually love the movie designs (1-3) bug faces and everything, even the weirdest rotf designs
Don't worry it's a cynical joke based on irony that some people wanted something one way but now different people want it the other way.
I guess I should use more emotes eh?
I personally love the movie designs that try to be something new and inventive for Transformers did any G1 character have wheel feet and wrist blades and be something besides a blocky metal human?
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2017 @ 7:19pm CST
Yeah, rotf demolisher is one of my favorite designs, just wish his figure was way more poseable
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 25th, 2017 @ 7:19pm CST
Deadput wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Clearly you don't know anything about me, but, if it was a joke/sarcasm, I appreciate the attempt. I actually love the movie designs (1-3) bug faces and everything, even the weirdest rotf designs
Don't worry it's a cynical joke based on irony that some people wanted something one way but now different people want it the other way.
I guess I should use more emotes eh?
I personally love the movie designs that try to be something new and inventive for Transformers did any G1 character have wheel feet and wrist blades and be something besides a blocky metal human?
Yeah, rotf demolisher is one of my favorite designs, just wish his figure was way more poseable
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854724)
Posted by Emerje on January 25th, 2017 @ 8:25pm CST
Going from the new images they say "PROTECT" and "SERVE" which is a really strange thing for a Decepticon to have on his knuckles. Wold make more sense to say "PUNISH" and "ENSLAVE" right?
Anyway, I like the new molds so far. Paint could be a lot better, but the sculpting is really nice. Calling the new Dread "Berserker" does make sense as it does fit the knight theme of the movie.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 25th, 2017 @ 8:25pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:His art shows something interesting: his knuckle busters have reversed letters on them. Looks to be an 8 letter word ending in "ERVE".
Going from the new images they say "PROTECT" and "SERVE" which is a really strange thing for a Decepticon to have on his knuckles. Wold make more sense to say "PUNISH" and "ENSLAVE" right?
Anyway, I like the new molds so far. Paint could be a lot better, but the sculpting is really nice. Calling the new Dread "Berserker" does make sense as it does fit the knight theme of the movie.
Emerje
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854736)
Posted by RAR on January 25th, 2017 @ 8:48pm CST
Posted by RAR on January 25th, 2017 @ 8:48pm CST
I liked Barricade's old face as it was a nice take on the Decepticon logo design - like Soundwave or The Fallen and a few others had it was also one of the least beastial looking Decepticons too - when many of the others had the look of some monster or animal to them (as did and do some Autobots).
Barricade looked like someone who could have been either and decided on Decepticon. since in the Movie Universe Autobots came 1st and Decepticons are an rebellious off shoot from that - then Barricade looks like someone physically who was an Autobot and you can also likely see that in that he was actually going to be called "Prowl" for a while before the Don Murphy Board Members put the point across that it would be a really bad idea to make Prowl a Decepticon (at that time and with no explanation).
I can see more of the original design in the art than in the new toy they have basically slimmed him down removed a lot of car kibble and made him look more humanoid and less covered in obvious car bits - though not to quite the same extent as they have with Optimus and Bumblebee who have lost nearly all of it. - heck even Hot Rod and Lockdown have very little left of the car kibble either.
I wonder why the Movie team objects to being able to tell what they turn into or why so many of they are black or Grey - it still makes it really hard to tell them apart.
I know many people literally were unable to tell Starscream from Megatron as they were to similar looking and in ROTF it was further exacerbated by Grindor also being grey too.
Barricade looked like someone who could have been either and decided on Decepticon. since in the Movie Universe Autobots came 1st and Decepticons are an rebellious off shoot from that - then Barricade looks like someone physically who was an Autobot and you can also likely see that in that he was actually going to be called "Prowl" for a while before the Don Murphy Board Members put the point across that it would be a really bad idea to make Prowl a Decepticon (at that time and with no explanation).
I can see more of the original design in the art than in the new toy they have basically slimmed him down removed a lot of car kibble and made him look more humanoid and less covered in obvious car bits - though not to quite the same extent as they have with Optimus and Bumblebee who have lost nearly all of it. - heck even Hot Rod and Lockdown have very little left of the car kibble either.
I wonder why the Movie team objects to being able to tell what they turn into or why so many of they are black or Grey - it still makes it really hard to tell them apart.
I know many people literally were unable to tell Starscream from Megatron as they were to similar looking and in ROTF it was further exacerbated by Grindor also being grey too.
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Posted by Deadput on January 25th, 2017 @ 9:14pm CST
It's an irony thing their on his fists because he is literately beating you up with the words protect and serve.
He does have Punish and Enslave on his elbows though look at the picture on the right.
Posted by Deadput on January 25th, 2017 @ 9:14pm CST
Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:His art shows something interesting: his knuckle busters have reversed letters on them. Looks to be an 8 letter word ending in "ERVE".
Going from the new images they say "PROTECT" and "SERVE" which is a really strange thing for a Decepticon to have on his knuckles. Wold make more sense to say "PUNISH" and "ENSLAVE" right?
Anyway, I like the new molds so far. Paint could be a lot better, but the sculpting is really nice. Calling the new Dread "Berserker" does make sense as it does fit the knight theme of the movie.
Emerje
It's an irony thing their on his fists because he is literately beating you up with the words protect and serve.
He does have Punish and Enslave on his elbows though look at the picture on the right.
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Posted by Deadput on January 25th, 2017 @ 9:55pm CST
It's so casual movie watchers can tell the good guys from the bad guys and it works but this movie is a bit different so far with colors.
Megatron is still silver but it's Megatron he is always that color ever since G1 so who cares.
Barricade is black and white.
New Decepticon Onslaght is a big bright Green and white Towtruck who is seen with Barricade a lot so he is probably the third most important con in the movie.
Another new con seen with the two above during filming is this rusty blue VW van who if rumors are correct is named Hooligan and who we thought was originally the Dread-type con that we now know is Berserker.
There is a bright silver motorbike Decepticon who is rumored to be named Mohawk who seems to be a minor con since he was only seen during the beginning of filming with the other three cons above and we haven't seen him on filming site since.
And there are two more Decepticons that were seen in the trailer on the right is Megatron and Onslaght on the right there are two Decepticons one of them is a dread type con who is probably Berserker and there is a Shockwave looking character.
Posted by Deadput on January 25th, 2017 @ 9:55pm CST
RAR wrote:
I wonder why the Movie team objects to being able to tell what they turn into or why so many of they are black or Grey - it still makes it really hard to tell them apart.
I know many people literally were unable to tell Starscream from Megatron as they were to similar looking and in ROTF it was further exacerbated by Grindor also being grey too.
It's so casual movie watchers can tell the good guys from the bad guys and it works but this movie is a bit different so far with colors.
Megatron is still silver but it's Megatron he is always that color ever since G1 so who cares.
Barricade is black and white.
New Decepticon Onslaght is a big bright Green and white Towtruck who is seen with Barricade a lot so he is probably the third most important con in the movie.
Another new con seen with the two above during filming is this rusty blue VW van who if rumors are correct is named Hooligan and who we thought was originally the Dread-type con that we now know is Berserker.
There is a bright silver motorbike Decepticon who is rumored to be named Mohawk who seems to be a minor con since he was only seen during the beginning of filming with the other three cons above and we haven't seen him on filming site since.
And there are two more Decepticons that were seen in the trailer on the right is Megatron and Onslaght on the right there are two Decepticons one of them is a dread type con who is probably Berserker and there is a Shockwave looking character.
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Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2017 @ 10:20pm CST
I like both of you guys so I hope you both keep posting here and share your thoughts. This is a fun debate and it tells me how selective we are in the west of the Takara releases. Since the movies themselves are a product of the US (mostly), we tend to see mainly the us products of movie toys and the Takara ones that we do take notice of are the ones we dont get or the ones that are drastically different. But those are always special editions, not the direct versions of the products we get.
For instance, take these examples, let me know which are Takara and which are Hasbro, can you tell the difference?
Posted by william-james88 on January 25th, 2017 @ 10:20pm CST
Black Hat wrote:When it comes to movie toys Takara hardly makes a bigger difference with their paint.
Get your eyes checked, mate.
Seriously though. You've said before you don't buy the toys. Why do you even still post here?
I like both of you guys so I hope you both keep posting here and share your thoughts. This is a fun debate and it tells me how selective we are in the west of the Takara releases. Since the movies themselves are a product of the US (mostly), we tend to see mainly the us products of movie toys and the Takara ones that we do take notice of are the ones we dont get or the ones that are drastically different. But those are always special editions, not the direct versions of the products we get.
For instance, take these examples, let me know which are Takara and which are Hasbro, can you tell the difference?
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854772)
Posted by Kurona on January 25th, 2017 @ 11:07pm CST
To be fair, Hasbro and Takara's stock photography differs greatly; so you'd probably be able to tell which company each of these comes from even if the toy was 100% the same in both markets.
Regardless it's just dependent on the toy. I can't say anything much about the movie toys; but for more recent examples (which hence is probably relevant), outside of a few obvious outliers like Blurr; Takara's offerings for the Titans Return molds haven't exactly been categorically better than Hasbro's. Not counting the actual Titan Masters which are clearly different, a lot of the time you either can't tell the difference between the two figures or they're going for different things so you can't say one's better than the other. Titans Return Chromedome isn't better or worse than Takara Legends Chromedome; they're both very good figures with very good facesculpts and paint - they're just going for two clearly different things.
I think it's important to judge things by a case by case scenario rather than judging one company as 100% better 100% of the time. That just leaves you with a heavy bias in the favour of one supplier, rather than choosing which of the two toys you feel is actually better. The case of Hasbro's toys vs. Takara's - especially recently - is such an interesting and complex case that a lot of collections look their best with a mix of both. I'd happily go for Hasbro's Hardhead, Wolfwire and Astrotrain alongside Takara's Blurr, Scourge and Galvatron with no real regrets.
Just go for the toy you think looks best. Debates about which company is 'better' just doesn't lead to anything productive and leaves you with a heavy bias that distracts from what would actually be best for your aesthetic (or fiction-representative) tastes.
Posted by Kurona on January 25th, 2017 @ 11:07pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Black Hat wrote:When it comes to movie toys Takara hardly makes a bigger difference with their paint.
Get your eyes checked, mate.
Seriously though. You've said before you don't buy the toys. Why do you even still post here?
I like both of you guys so I hope you both keep posting here and share your thoughts. This is a fun debate and it tells me how selective we are in the west of the Takara releases. Since the movies themselves are a product of the US (mostly), we tend to see mainly the us products of movie toys and the Takara ones that we do take notice of are the ones we dont get or the ones that are drastically different. But those are always special editions, not the direct versions of the products we get.
For instance, take these examples, let me know which are Takara and which are Hasbro, can you tell the difference?
To be fair, Hasbro and Takara's stock photography differs greatly; so you'd probably be able to tell which company each of these comes from even if the toy was 100% the same in both markets.
Regardless it's just dependent on the toy. I can't say anything much about the movie toys; but for more recent examples (which hence is probably relevant), outside of a few obvious outliers like Blurr; Takara's offerings for the Titans Return molds haven't exactly been categorically better than Hasbro's. Not counting the actual Titan Masters which are clearly different, a lot of the time you either can't tell the difference between the two figures or they're going for different things so you can't say one's better than the other. Titans Return Chromedome isn't better or worse than Takara Legends Chromedome; they're both very good figures with very good facesculpts and paint - they're just going for two clearly different things.
I think it's important to judge things by a case by case scenario rather than judging one company as 100% better 100% of the time. That just leaves you with a heavy bias in the favour of one supplier, rather than choosing which of the two toys you feel is actually better. The case of Hasbro's toys vs. Takara's - especially recently - is such an interesting and complex case that a lot of collections look their best with a mix of both. I'd happily go for Hasbro's Hardhead, Wolfwire and Astrotrain alongside Takara's Blurr, Scourge and Galvatron with no real regrets.
Just go for the toy you think looks best. Debates about which company is 'better' just doesn't lead to anything productive and leaves you with a heavy bias that distracts from what would actually be best for your aesthetic (or fiction-representative) tastes.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854806)
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 26th, 2017 @ 6:22am CST
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 26th, 2017 @ 6:22am CST
*pops in and looks around*
Damn, another line of Transformers I will be completely skipping. Guess it's money saved, right?
Have fun, y'all.
Damn, another line of Transformers I will be completely skipping. Guess it's money saved, right?
Have fun, y'all.
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Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:00am CST
That's not totally true. They swapped the shoulders and the club to black and the dull green plastic is metallic on the TT version.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:00am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Have the TT movie toys actually been better in the past? I am talking about the ones that mirror the mainline. Looking at AOE, can anyone really tell me if one is better than the other for snarl below?
Transformers Age of Extinction: Generations Snarl Gallery
In Snarl's case, not really. Only one minor part tree has been switched from green to black, but it does make him resembled his stock image more.
That's not totally true. They swapped the shoulders and the club to black and the dull green plastic is metallic on the TT version.
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Posted by Kyleor on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:04am CST
Most of the live action movie toys are not worth getting, but a few are. A very select few.
Posted by Kyleor on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:04am CST
Ironhidensh wrote:*pops in and looks around*
Damn, another line of Transformers I will be completely skipping. Guess it's money saved, right?
Have fun, y'all.
Most of the live action movie toys are not worth getting, but a few are. A very select few.
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Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:08am CST
Totally depends on what you like. I enjoy the movie lines as much as I enjoy the Generations and so on. Every line has its good and bad parts. And I will definitely get Barricade and I'm looking forward to see the new Megatron and Warpath (if that's the old tank's name).
Posted by Lunatic Prime on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:08am CST
Kyleor wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:*pops in and looks around*
Damn, another line of Transformers I will be completely skipping. Guess it's money saved, right?
Have fun, y'all.
Most of the live action movie toys are not worth getting, but a few are. A very select few.
Totally depends on what you like. I enjoy the movie lines as much as I enjoy the Generations and so on. Every line has its good and bad parts. And I will definitely get Barricade and I'm looking forward to see the new Megatron and Warpath (if that's the old tank's name).
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854837)
Posted by Kurona on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:14am CST
Posted by Kurona on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:14am CST
I think personally I'd be a bit more interested in TLK's line if they done the same thing as ROTF where they had a metric ton of original characters not seen on-screen like Payload and Stratosphere and Seaspray and all that. Not to mention a couple repaints of some Unicron Trilogy toys thrown in there - that was where some really interesting stuff was.
But I'm betting they'll just do on-screen characters and nothing else
But I'm betting they'll just do on-screen characters and nothing else
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Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:24am CST
Like Evasion Mode Optimus Prime
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:24am CST
Kyleor wrote:Most of the live action movie toys are not worth getting, but a few are. A very select few.
Like Evasion Mode Optimus Prime
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:31am CST
But look at how Dark of the Moon worked out. They threw in some characters that were not in the movie were original movie characters, and as a result we never got deluxe Leadfoot, Soundwave, or Que, and they had the molds ready. I'd prefer to get on-screen characters before we start throwing in some extra guys just for fun. Makes sure you don't miss out on one you may have really wanted (I really wanted those 3 deluxes and only got Que....)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:31am CST
Kurona wrote:I think personally I'd be a bit more interested in TLK's line if they done the same thing as ROTF where they had a metric ton of original characters not seen on-screen like Payload and Stratosphere and Seaspray and all that. Not to mention a couple repaints of some Unicron Trilogy toys thrown in there - that was where some really interesting stuff was.
But I'm betting they'll just do on-screen characters and nothing else
But look at how Dark of the Moon worked out. They threw in some characters that were not in the movie were original movie characters, and as a result we never got deluxe Leadfoot, Soundwave, or Que, and they had the molds ready. I'd prefer to get on-screen characters before we start throwing in some extra guys just for fun. Makes sure you don't miss out on one you may have really wanted (I really wanted those 3 deluxes and only got Que....)
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Posted by Ironhidensh on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:32am CST
The one and only AOE figure worth actual money.
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:32am CST
william-james88 wrote:Kyleor wrote:Most of the live action movie toys are not worth getting, but a few are. A very select few.
Like Evasion Mode Optimus Prime
The one and only AOE figure worth actual money.
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Posted by Kurona on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:33am CST
Oh true, those should always be given priority; it's just a shame to me that that is all it is.
Posted by Kurona on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:33am CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Kurona wrote:I think personally I'd be a bit more interested in TLK's line if they done the same thing as ROTF where they had a metric ton of original characters not seen on-screen like Payload and Stratosphere and Seaspray and all that. Not to mention a couple repaints of some Unicron Trilogy toys thrown in there - that was where some really interesting stuff was.
But I'm betting they'll just do on-screen characters and nothing else
But look at how Dark of the Moon worked out. They threw in some characters that were not in the movie were original movie characters, and as a result we never got deluxe Leadfoot, Soundwave, or Que, and they had the molds ready. I'd prefer to get on-screen characters before we start throwing in some extra guys just for fun. Makes sure you don't miss out on one you may have really wanted (I really wanted those 3 deluxes and only got Que....)
Oh true, those should always be given priority; it's just a shame to me that that is all it is.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854851)
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:54am CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 9:54am CST
Ready for another day of Transformers: The Last Knight Reveals? We have more images of Beserker, showing how his back looks like. If only we had images like this for that voyager Prime figure. We also have a look at a one step Barricade toy which seems to have the same engineering as the most recent RID one step toys.
We also have an image showing what the first wave of deluxes is made of: Bumblebee, Barricade, Beserker and Slash. Slash and Bumblebee are rereleases of Age of Extinction molds.
Now, for those who want to have some fun with this, we can then line up this wave with the preliminary names we already have for this wave:
Generations Deluxe Class:
Wave 1:
“Shooting Star”
“Gamma Ray”
“Mars”
“Gas Giant”
And now we can line that up with the MPM wave:
TF5 Movie Masterpiece Mars (Bumblebee) – $79.99
TF5 Movie Masterpiece Jupiter (Optimus Prime) – $99.99
TF5 Movie Masterpiece “Saturn” – $79.99
Mars is Bumblebee since he is in both the waves, but this means that Saturn is not Barricade and thus the third Masterpiece Movie figure will not be Barricade but someone else at the Bumblebee price point.
Fun note, this design is based on the character model of the Decepticon Enforcer in the Dark of the Moon video game:
We also have an image showing what the first wave of deluxes is made of: Bumblebee, Barricade, Beserker and Slash. Slash and Bumblebee are rereleases of Age of Extinction molds.
Now, for those who want to have some fun with this, we can then line up this wave with the preliminary names we already have for this wave:
Generations Deluxe Class:
Wave 1:
“Shooting Star”
“Gamma Ray”
“Mars”
“Gas Giant”
And now we can line that up with the MPM wave:
TF5 Movie Masterpiece Mars (Bumblebee) – $79.99
TF5 Movie Masterpiece Jupiter (Optimus Prime) – $99.99
TF5 Movie Masterpiece “Saturn” – $79.99
Mars is Bumblebee since he is in both the waves, but this means that Saturn is not Barricade and thus the third Masterpiece Movie figure will not be Barricade but someone else at the Bumblebee price point.
Fun note, this design is based on the character model of the Decepticon Enforcer in the Dark of the Moon video game:
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854863)
Posted by Insurgent on January 26th, 2017 @ 10:28am CST
Posted by Insurgent on January 26th, 2017 @ 10:28am CST
Shame they gave Beserker Crankcase's head. Ideal chance to release one of the other dreads in deluxe scale. The non Hatchet guy would have been perfect here. I bet more people would have got it then. I know I would. But alas, don't need another Crankcase.
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Posted by Microraptor on January 26th, 2017 @ 10:54am CST
Posted by Microraptor on January 26th, 2017 @ 10:54am CST
I like how they gave him those weird spike-things the Dreads used in 3.
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Posted by Evil Eye on January 26th, 2017 @ 11:47am CST
Posted by Evil Eye on January 26th, 2017 @ 11:47am CST
He looks really cool, and the spike grenades are awesome, but he needs a gun. Thank Primus for Fakebusker's spike-gun.
I'll definitely wait to see if Takara does a better deco first though, this one's paintjob is underwhelming, especially given the decent sculptwork.
I'll definitely wait to see if Takara does a better deco first though, this one's paintjob is underwhelming, especially given the decent sculptwork.
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Posted by thedistinctroom on January 26th, 2017 @ 11:47am CST
Posted by thedistinctroom on January 26th, 2017 @ 11:47am CST
Oh wow! Bumblebee has so many paint apps. I'm spellbound. In 5 years time from now, I'll bet that there will be absolutely no paint apps at all! Yay! Way to go, 
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Posted by Heckfire on January 26th, 2017 @ 11:58am CST
Posted by Heckfire on January 26th, 2017 @ 11:58am CST
...Barricade has "brass knuckles" on his fists that say "Serve" and "Protect."
DAMMIT, WHY DIDN'T I EVER THINK OF THAT?!
DAMMIT, WHY DIDN'T I EVER THINK OF THAT?!
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854880)
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 12:24pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 12:24pm CST
Thanks to doctor prime and the snakas blog we have some leaked deco sheets of 2 upcoming Last Knight figures. These are two one steps, called Turbo Change this time around and one is Barricade (whos finished toy we already saw in these images) and the other is Hound sporting a new alt mode. These deco sheets reveal flames on the hood, which can be seen with UV light, with large faction symbols in the center.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854882)
Posted by Microraptor on January 26th, 2017 @ 12:37pm CST
The problem is that Bee has many parts made of translucent plastic, on several parts of his body. Note how Berserker, who doesn't have translucent plastic, and Barricade, who has it all on a couple of pieces, have substantially more paint apps and color variance. Not to mention the detail-swallowing nature of that yellow plastic.
Posted by Microraptor on January 26th, 2017 @ 12:37pm CST
thedistinctroom wrote:Oh wow! Bumblebee has so many paint apps. I'm spellbound. In 5 years time from now, I'll bet that there will be absolutely no paint apps at all! Yay! Way to go,
The problem is that Bee has many parts made of translucent plastic, on several parts of his body. Note how Berserker, who doesn't have translucent plastic, and Barricade, who has it all on a couple of pieces, have substantially more paint apps and color variance. Not to mention the detail-swallowing nature of that yellow plastic.
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Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 12:45pm CST
Speaking of which, I have no problem with the paint apps found on Beserker.
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 12:45pm CST
Microraptor wrote:thedistinctroom wrote:Oh wow! Bumblebee has so many paint apps. I'm spellbound. In 5 years time from now, I'll bet that there will be absolutely no paint apps at all! Yay! Way to go,
The problem is that Bee has many parts made of translucent plastic, on several parts of his body. Note how Berserker, who doesn't have translucent plastic, and Barricade, who has it all on a couple of pieces, have substantially more paint apps and color variance. Not to mention the detail-swallowing nature of that yellow plastic.
Speaking of which, I have no problem with the paint apps found on Beserker.
Re: More Images of Transformers: The Last Knight Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Toys (1854892)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:26pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:26pm CST
Wow, Ok then.
Hound looks eeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Beserker looks much better to me now actually and I really like him. Him and Barricade will be my 2 pickups for this way.
I have a Slash so this one means nothing.
that Bee is bad. His AoE version of that mold just devours it.
No MP Barricade? Maybe MP Drift?
Hound looks eeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Beserker looks much better to me now actually and I really like him. Him and Barricade will be my 2 pickups for this way.
I have a Slash so this one means nothing.
that Bee is bad. His AoE version of that mold just devours it.
No MP Barricade? Maybe MP Drift?
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Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:29pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:29pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:No MP Barricade? Maybe MP Drift?
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:31pm CST
Actually, considering Bee is based on his Movie 1 design, maybe we'll finally get a really good version of the only other movie character that is Bee sized: Jazz. I would love an MP movie Jazz. Drift would be cool too, but Jazz baby
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:31pm CST
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:No MP Barricade? Maybe MP Drift?
Actually, considering Bee is based on his Movie 1 design, maybe we'll finally get a really good version of the only other movie character that is Bee sized: Jazz. I would love an MP movie Jazz. Drift would be cool too, but Jazz baby
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Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:50pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:50pm CST
Could he really be superior to the HA toy? That toy is sublime and to me he is as MP as Jazz can get.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:52pm CST
I never saw or got that toy, and I don't like the "human alliance" part of it, so I think they could do it better
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:52pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Could he really be superior to the HA toy? That toy is sublime and to me he is as MP as Jazz can get.
I never saw or got that toy, and I don't like the "human alliance" part of it, so I think they could do it better
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Posted by Sabrblade on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:55pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:55pm CST
I dunno, man. That toy not only nailed Movie Jazz's CG model look down to a tee, it even worked in a completely non-intrusive full car interior, which is something most of the MPs rarely ever execute well (but which the Alternators pulled off).D-Maximus_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Could he really be superior to the HA toy? That toy is sublime and to me he is as MP as Jazz can get.
I never saw or got that toy, and I don't like the "human alliance" part of it, so I think they could do it better
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Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 2:03pm CST
I dont know what you mean by the human alliance part of it. Its just that he has a detailed cockpit that can seat a figure, wouldnt you want that in the MP to have as much realism in car mode as possible.
To be dead honest, that Jazz is one of the figures that could easily be released in the MPM line. The scale is perfect with the MPs too and he has the gimicks you would expect from an MP. Instead of dreaming until the day it is made 9which might be never), you could own him right now
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 2:03pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Could he really be superior to the HA toy? That toy is sublime and to me he is as MP as Jazz can get.
I never saw or got that toy, and I don't like the "human alliance" part of it, so I think they could do it better
I dont know what you mean by the human alliance part of it. Its just that he has a detailed cockpit that can seat a figure, wouldnt you want that in the MP to have as much realism in car mode as possible.
To be dead honest, that Jazz is one of the figures that could easily be released in the MPM line. The scale is perfect with the MPs too and he has the gimicks you would expect from an MP. Instead of dreaming until the day it is made 9which might be never), you could own him right now
