More Leaks of Transformers: The Last Knight Toys: Bumblebee, Berserker, Barricade Box

I hope berserker is a prototype or a gimmick figure...if not, holy scrap the toyline looks like slag
Doesnt look like he can move the neck at all,
Bumblebee looks like his deluxe right down to transformation and i am not convinced he isnt that mold.

So the barricade means that is the best we will get on that mold outside of japan

Berserker looks great, that's the last movie Bee mold.

Once I get this new Barricade in hand I'll probably toss the old DOTM DLX into the trash! Actually, I'll probably keep the old toy in its gorgeous alt-mode.

About the back kibble, I can probably modify it into a riot shield.

Va'al wrote:A fellow Transformers fan has notified us that, in the comments on the Planet Iacon Facebook page, there are some further potential reveals from the The Last Knight toyline, in terms of deluxe and probably Legend class figures. Thanks to Vietnamese photographers, we have a shot of the box for Barricade from earlier today, also a Premier Edition, and very similar to Voyagers; we have a new Bumblebee, very close to his Age of Extinction design and possibly a Legend or VERY simplified deluxe; we also have - supposedly - Berserker, a new mold that borrows heavily from Dread Crankcase from Dark of the Moon. Check them out below, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!

Wha. . . That's just a crummy repaint of the AOE Deluxe Bumblebee! This better not be the mainline deluxe. . .

I can now say with absolute certainty that if I get any of these figures they'll be the Takara versions. The "premiere" Barricade barely looks like it should be any more than a normal release and Bumblebee and the dread lack so many paint apps.

Was there confirmation on the size of the new Crankcase?

Thats AoE deluxe bumblebee with less paint and a brighter yellow plasti. But damn if these are the premiere figures i dread to see what the main lines going to be. Sad part is people are going to buy this crap because they are blinded by their obsession, its only going to get worse i guarantee it.

Whats weird is that Bumblebee doesnt even look like that in this movie, something is really off here.

Ok, done catching up, my observation:

- Bumblebee is a redeco of his AoE Deluxe figure. I took the time to compare the molds and they match to a tee. Can't say I'm surprised, really, but that would mean we'll be getting yet another Bumblebee toy to match the current Camaro model used in the movie.
- Barricade may look Voyager Class because of the box, but the clear hook on top indicates he'll be put on pegs, like Deluxes! When was the last time Deluxes were put in boxes instead of on cards? His art shows something interesting: his knuckle busters have reversed letters on them. Looks to be an 8 letter word ending in "ERVE".
- I keep wanting to call the Dread "Crankcase" for some reason. Judging from the size of the rivets I'd say he's a Deluxe like the rest.

I think the berserker would've looked better as a crankcase repaint, but Barricade is still ok. Bumblebee just infuriates me. Optimus doesn't change designs and gets a new voyager, but Bumblebee has a great new design and gets a crappy repaint. They didn't even base it off the right body, his new TF5 mode is his DOTM look with a new chest. I actually would've liked a remold of the DOTM figure, but I guess I'm going to wait and see if he gets a proper figure.

At least there's that MPM-3 Bumblebee coming out that looks beautiful.

Every time I see cool spiky bits on a transformer figure now, I have to shake my head and remind myself: 'soft rubber'.

I do love when Transformers toys come out that I don't need to get. IT saves my wallet a lot of pain.

Bumblebee looks like absolute cack. Pass.

Berserker though...hmm. The lack of paint kinda sucks, but at least we'll most likely get the mold done justice by Takara. He looks pretty good- he's obviously mistransformed/badly posed (those look like digitigrade/"raptor" legs) and the actual sculpt looks good. I might get the best version of him and a DOTM Crankcase- I love the concept of the Dreads, even if they did frak all in the movies, and seeing as Crankcase and Crowbar looked mostly the same anyway, this will be a good way of having them.

Beserker's Dreadlocks look rubbery, which might mean his head could move. I still want that Barricade though.

Bumblebee is definitely the exact same mold as the Deluxe Concept Camaro one from AoE.

GalvatronG1 wrote:I hope berserker is a prototype or a gimmick figure...if not, holy scrap the toyline looks like slag
Doesnt look like he can move the neck at all,
Bumblebee looks like his deluxe right down to transformation and i am not convinced he isnt that mold.

So the barricade means that is the best we will get on that mold outside of japan

Bumblebee figure is skinny in waist section another repaint of same Figure from age of extinction movie movie figure we get but will never see in movie I like those characters in age of extinction would have like to see them last longer in movie toy figures are ok I don't see any one buying more of figures if they have original figures from previous movie

Yeah that Bee looks like a DotM knock off. A bad KO (I have a great oversized KO vastly superior to the real hasbro deluxe which I also own).

I like Berzerker a lot! The action pose pic looks better than the stiff standing up one cos it shows how his legs bend. He's cool and looks like a predator.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Yeah that Bee looks like a DotM knock off. A bad KO (I have a great oversized KO vastly superior to the real hasbro deluxe which I also own).

You sure you dont mean AOE? since thats the AOE mold.

On the comments section of this link....
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/01/14/tran ... 017-331028

someone(Scorpio) does speculate that we might see Planet Cybertron set revealed at Nuremberg! anyone else thinking that we might?(yes yes...i know the toy reveals don't ususally happen until the NY toy fair).

So these are the 'Premier Edition' figures, guess tf's are officially trash now, looks like I got a job just in time to start buying stuff from TT, thanks hasblow

Have the TT movie toys actually been better in the past? I am talking about the ones that mirror the mainline. Looking at AOE, can anyone really tell me if one is better than the other for snarl below?


Transformers Age of Extinction: Generations Snarl Gallery

We have an update to the previous two Transformers: The Last Knight toy news stories, featuring Barricade, Berserker, and Bumblebee, thanks to the same Italian fan and via Vietnamese Facebook user Danh Le - the original source of all the images seen so far, at last! - a whole new load of photos, showing off the figures next to each other out of package, confirming their sizes. Check them out mirrored below.

william-james88 wrote:Have the TT movie toys actually been better in the past? I am talking about the ones that mirror the mainline. Looking at AOE, can anyone really tell me if one is better than the other for snarl below?


Transformers Age of Extinction: Generations Snarl Gallery

In Snarl's case, not really. Only one minor part tree has been switched from green to black, but it does make him resembled his stock image more.

william-james88 wrote:Have the TT movie toys actually been better in the past? I am talking about the ones that mirror the mainline. Looking at AOE, can anyone really tell me if one is better than the other for snarl below?


Transformers Age of Extinction: Generations Snarl Gallery

The added grey does help, but it's not dealbreaker.

So the backpack DOES fold up...or is this a different toy?

Black Hat wrote:So the backpack DOES fold up...or is this a different toy?

Given how the backpack looks in the other pictures and the style of his other accessories, I assume it's detachable as a riot shield.

DeathReviews wrote:Every time I see cool spiky bits on a transformer figure now, I have to shake my head and remind myself: 'soft rubber'.

Way back during Cybertron, I broke the spikes on both the Ultra and Legends version of Scourge somehow. I can live with the rubber.

Yikes. Hopefully we get something better than these. They do not inspire confidence.

I like Barry's Speedstars/RPM Toy car dark blue deco as a novelty - I expect the normal version or a later boxed set will be basic black though.

Head looks zip like Barry though.

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The 3rd dread is unexpected but makes a crazy kind of sense.

The shoulder spines seem to suggest he's the short haired one that isn't the doggie like Hatchet or the long hair Crankcase.

But going backwards like this is a very favourable sign to me as it might me toys of the loads of characters who never got them done at all or if they did they were something like a PVC or a static figure.

So yeah a Thumbs up for Berzerker. I wonder if they plan to do a Doggie Hatchet - with a SUV vehicle mode too ?



Fingers crossed for a new mould 1970's Bee. Though I'd have liked that in the brand hayday of 2010 not now when Hasbro make cheap tat a lot of the time than I'd like.

But this isn't a million miles away from DOTM deluxe quality so I'm not going to scream the house down over the averageness of them.

Besides they may not even come out in the UK at all. But aside from the lazy Bee repaint - I'm pleased to see ANY Decepticons.

Hellscream9999 wrote:So these are the 'Premier Edition' figures, guess tf's are officially trash now, looks like I got a job just in time to start buying stuff from TT, thanks hasblow

Hellscream9999 wrote: thanks hasblow

Are we still at the stage where the fandom is praising the oh so perfect Takara master race?

Might as well as close Hasbro and just let Japan handle everything because everyone hates everything the movies suck the tv shows suck the hasbro toys suck why are Hasbro making plastic toys for kids still eh I'm sure they can ignore the budget their allowed to have magically to give premium hand painted masterpiece quality figures for $10.00 don't see how that could fail or bankrupt them.


When it comes to movie toys Takara hardly makes a bigger difference with their paint.

Ok, so.

Dangit Barricade, why did you need to be one of those special edition figures? I really like you.

Bee: What the hell is up with the colors. that looks bad.

Beserker: looks like a new mold dread. Doesn't look overly good with the colors, but the molding itself looks really cool. Now will he be in the movie?

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:So these are the 'Premier Edition' figures, guess tf's are officially trash now, looks like I got a job just in time to start buying stuff from TT, thanks hasblow

Hellscream9999 wrote: thanks hasblow

Are we still at the stage where the fandom is praising the oh so perfect Takara master race?

Considering that most of their output is categorically superior, yes. Look at TR Blurr vs Legends Blurr.

Might as well as close Hasbro and just let Japan handle everything because everyone hates everything the movies suck the tv shows suck the hasbro toys suck

That might be the only sensible thing you've ever said.

why are Hasbro making plastic toys for kids still eh

The real question is "Why are they making plastic toys for kids that are so much worse than they used to be".

I'm sure they can ignore the budget their allowed to have magically to give premium hand painted masterpiece quality figures for $10.00 don't see how that could fail or bankrupt them.

Yes, we get it, Hasbro shill. You think we should all just suck up whatever gets thrown at us, no matter how terrible. But thank you for #CorrectingTheRecord either way!

When it comes to movie toys Takara hardly makes a bigger difference with their paint.

Get your eyes checked, mate.

Seriously though. You've said before you don't buy the toys. Why do you even still post here?

Black Hat wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:So these are the 'Premier Edition' figures, guess tf's are officially trash now, looks like I got a job just in time to start buying stuff from TT, thanks hasblow

Hellscream9999 wrote: thanks hasblow

Are we still at the stage where the fandom is praising the oh so perfect Takara master race?

Considering that most of their output is categorically superior, yes. Look at TR Blurr vs Legends Blurr.

To be entirely transparent I didn't mean this explicitly towards movie toys, more along the lines of 'the straw that broke the camels back', I've had enough of crappy hasbro figures with crappy non-deco's. My second silverbolt's cockpit has already split from the strain of holding a screw in place, and now whole 'premier' lines without paint apps, and the advent of these crappy new stickers in lieu of paint apps , yeah, eff tf's

Black Hat wrote:Considering that most of their output is categorically superior, yes. Look at TR Blurr vs Legends Blurr.

Hasbro Blurr is fine if your not looking for Cartoon accurate colors.

Black Hat wrote:That might be the only sensible thing you've ever said.

I'm being sarcastic dude I like the movies and shows why would I defend them otherwise think about eh?

Black Hat wrote:The real question is "Why are they making plastic toys for kids that are so much worse than they used to be".

Do you know how much less plastic and materiel's they have compared to years ago right?

Do you even get how they make toys?

Do you realize that we are not supposed to even be buying them?

Black Hat wrote:
Yes, we get it, Hasbro shill. You think we should all just suck up whatever gets thrown at us, no matter how terrible. But thank you for #CorrectingTheRecord either way!

Did you just call me a goddamn shill for being sick of the fanatics whining about stupid paint on plastic figures?

You don't have to like it your opinions are your own but calling something Has-Blow is immature and the consent whining that all Hasbro figures suck because it aint their golden child hood days anymore is annoying.

Black Hat wrote:Get your eyes checked, mate.

Seriously though. You've said before you don't buy the toys. Why do you even still post here?

Ignoring your insults this time

For most movie toys they don't Will showed an example of that a few posts ago.

And when did I say I don't buy the toys eh? I buy them when I get money which in the past wasn't often but now I've been buying a whole lot figures in the last few months then I have the rest of my life.

Normal legs? Recognizable hands? limbs that are in proper proportion? I must be sitting in a beam of light, this is a miracle. Bumblebee looks the same as the AOE figure, but I'd like to get my hands on Barricade.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Normal legs? Recognizable hands? limbs that are in proper proportion?

Not so for the Dread, he may be digitigrade judging from how the foot is positioned:




Cluck, cluck

Bumblebee looks the same as the AOE figure, but I'd like to get my hands on Barricade.

Bumblebee is a straight redeco, just warning you. And they're all Deluxes.

The dread looks pretty cool, be nice to see TT's version, or a hasbro one with a coherent deco.

Barricade just looks weird without his pointy face, and those brass knuckles are just laughably weird.

Hellscream9999 wrote:The dread looks pretty cool, be nice to see TT's version, or a hasbro one with a coherent deco.

Barricade just looks weird without his pointy face, and those brass knuckles are just laughably weird.

I thought we hated the bug faces because it wasn't anything like the old stuff but now that it is we suddenly want it the other way again.


Funny how that works.

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:The dread looks pretty cool, be nice to see TT's version, or a hasbro one with a coherent deco.

Barricade just looks weird without his pointy face, and those brass knuckles are just laughably weird.

I thought we hated the bug faces because it wasn't anything like the old stuff but now that it is we suddenly want it the other way again.


Funny how that works.

Clearly you don't know anything about me, but, if it was a joke/sarcasm, I appreciate the attempt. I actually love the movie designs (1-3) bug faces and everything, even the weirdest rotf designs

Hellscream9999 wrote:Clearly you don't know anything about me, but, if it was a joke/sarcasm, I appreciate the attempt. I actually love the movie designs (1-3) bug faces and everything, even the weirdest rotf designs

Don't worry it's a cynical joke based on irony that some people wanted something one way but now different people want it the other way.

I guess I should use more emotes eh?


I personally love the movie designs that try to be something new and inventive for Transformers did any G1 character have wheel feet and wrist blades and be something besides a blocky metal human?

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Clearly you don't know anything about me, but, if it was a joke/sarcasm, I appreciate the attempt. I actually love the movie designs (1-3) bug faces and everything, even the weirdest rotf designs

Don't worry it's a cynical joke based on irony that some people wanted something one way but now different people want it the other way.

I guess I should use more emotes eh?


I personally love the movie designs that try to be something new and inventive for Transformers did any G1 character have wheel feet and wrist blades and be something besides a blocky metal human?

Yeah, rotf demolisher is one of my favorite designs, just wish his figure was way more poseable

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:His art shows something interesting: his knuckle busters have reversed letters on them. Looks to be an 8 letter word ending in "ERVE".

Going from the new images they say "PROTECT" and "SERVE" which is a really strange thing for a Decepticon to have on his knuckles. Wold make more sense to say "PUNISH" and "ENSLAVE" right?

Anyway, I like the new molds so far. Paint could be a lot better, but the sculpting is really nice. Calling the new Dread "Berserker" does make sense as it does fit the knight theme of the movie.

Emerje

I liked Barricade's old face as it was a nice take on the Decepticon logo design - like Soundwave or The Fallen and a few others had it was also one of the least beastial looking Decepticons too - when many of the others had the look of some monster or animal to them (as did and do some Autobots).

Barricade looked like someone who could have been either and decided on Decepticon. since in the Movie Universe Autobots came 1st and Decepticons are an rebellious off shoot from that - then Barricade looks like someone physically who was an Autobot and you can also likely see that in that he was actually going to be called "Prowl" for a while before the Don Murphy Board Members put the point across that it would be a really bad idea to make Prowl a Decepticon (at that time and with no explanation).

I can see more of the original design in the art than in the new toy they have basically slimmed him down removed a lot of car kibble and made him look more humanoid and less covered in obvious car bits - though not to quite the same extent as they have with Optimus and Bumblebee who have lost nearly all of it. - heck even Hot Rod and Lockdown have very little left of the car kibble either.

I wonder why the Movie team objects to being able to tell what they turn into or why so many of they are black or Grey - it still makes it really hard to tell them apart.

I know many people literally were unable to tell Starscream from Megatron as they were to similar looking and in ROTF it was further exacerbated by Grindor also being grey too.

Emerje wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:His art shows something interesting: his knuckle busters have reversed letters on them. Looks to be an 8 letter word ending in "ERVE".

Going from the new images they say "PROTECT" and "SERVE" which is a really strange thing for a Decepticon to have on his knuckles. Wold make more sense to say "PUNISH" and "ENSLAVE" right?

Anyway, I like the new molds so far. Paint could be a lot better, but the sculpting is really nice. Calling the new Dread "Berserker" does make sense as it does fit the knight theme of the movie.

Emerje

It's an irony thing their on his fists because he is literately beating you up with the words protect and serve.


He does have Punish and Enslave on his elbows though look at the picture on the right.

RAR wrote:
I wonder why the Movie team objects to being able to tell what they turn into or why so many of they are black or Grey - it still makes it really hard to tell them apart.

I know many people literally were unable to tell Starscream from Megatron as they were to similar looking and in ROTF it was further exacerbated by Grindor also being grey too.

It's so casual movie watchers can tell the good guys from the bad guys and it works but this movie is a bit different so far with colors.

Megatron is still silver but it's Megatron he is always that color ever since G1 so who cares.

Barricade is black and white.

New Decepticon Onslaght is a big bright Green and white Towtruck who is seen with Barricade a lot so he is probably the third most important con in the movie.

Another new con seen with the two above during filming is this rusty blue VW van who if rumors are correct is named Hooligan and who we thought was originally the Dread-type con that we now know is Berserker.




There is a bright silver motorbike Decepticon who is rumored to be named Mohawk who seems to be a minor con since he was only seen during the beginning of filming with the other three cons above and we haven't seen him on filming site since.





And there are two more Decepticons that were seen in the trailer on the right is Megatron and Onslaght on the right there are two Decepticons one of them is a dread type con who is probably Berserker and there is a Shockwave looking character.

Black Hat wrote:

When it comes to movie toys Takara hardly makes a bigger difference with their paint.

Get your eyes checked, mate.

Seriously though. You've said before you don't buy the toys. Why do you even still post here?

I like both of you guys so I hope you both keep posting here and share your thoughts. This is a fun debate and it tells me how selective we are in the west of the Takara releases. Since the movies themselves are a product of the US (mostly), we tend to see mainly the us products of movie toys and the Takara ones that we do take notice of are the ones we dont get or the ones that are drastically different. But those are always special editions, not the direct versions of the products we get.

For instance, take these examples, let me know which are Takara and which are Hasbro, can you tell the difference?

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote:

When it comes to movie toys Takara hardly makes a bigger difference with their paint.

Get your eyes checked, mate.

Seriously though. You've said before you don't buy the toys. Why do you even still post here?

I like both of you guys so I hope you both keep posting here and share your thoughts. This is a fun debate and it tells me how selective we are in the west of the Takara releases. Since the movies themselves are a product of the US (mostly), we tend to see mainly the us products of movie toys and the Takara ones that we do take notice of are the ones we dont get or the ones that are drastically different. But those are always special editions, not the direct versions of the products we get.

For instance, take these examples, let me know which are Takara and which are Hasbro, can you tell the difference?

To be fair, Hasbro and Takara's stock photography differs greatly; so you'd probably be able to tell which company each of these comes from even if the toy was 100% the same in both markets.

Regardless it's just dependent on the toy. I can't say anything much about the movie toys; but for more recent examples (which hence is probably relevant), outside of a few obvious outliers like Blurr; Takara's offerings for the Titans Return molds haven't exactly been categorically better than Hasbro's. Not counting the actual Titan Masters which are clearly different, a lot of the time you either can't tell the difference between the two figures or they're going for different things so you can't say one's better than the other. Titans Return Chromedome isn't better or worse than Takara Legends Chromedome; they're both very good figures with very good facesculpts and paint - they're just going for two clearly different things.

I think it's important to judge things by a case by case scenario rather than judging one company as 100% better 100% of the time. That just leaves you with a heavy bias in the favour of one supplier, rather than choosing which of the two toys you feel is actually better. The case of Hasbro's toys vs. Takara's - especially recently - is such an interesting and complex case that a lot of collections look their best with a mix of both. I'd happily go for Hasbro's Hardhead, Wolfwire and Astrotrain alongside Takara's Blurr, Scourge and Galvatron with no real regrets.

Just go for the toy you think looks best. Debates about which company is 'better' just doesn't lead to anything productive and leaves you with a heavy bias that distracts from what would actually be best for your aesthetic (or fiction-representative) tastes.

*pops in and looks around*

Damn, another line of Transformers I will be completely skipping. Guess it's money saved, right?

Have fun, y'all.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Have the TT movie toys actually been better in the past? I am talking about the ones that mirror the mainline. Looking at AOE, can anyone really tell me if one is better than the other for snarl below?


Transformers Age of Extinction: Generations Snarl Gallery

In Snarl's case, not really. Only one minor part tree has been switched from green to black, but it does make him resembled his stock image more.

That's not totally true. They swapped the shoulders and the club to black and the dull green plastic is metallic on the TT version.

Ironhidensh wrote:*pops in and looks around*

Damn, another line of Transformers I will be completely skipping. Guess it's money saved, right?

Have fun, y'all.

Most of the live action movie toys are not worth getting, but a few are. A very select few.