Masterpiece MP-19 Smokescreen In-Hand Images

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Thanks to site sponsor Kapow! Toys we have a look at the third use of the MP-17 mold, in the guise of MP-19 Smokescreen. The images, mirrored below for those of you without Facebook access, show the figure by itself and next to other MP figures for comparison, including MP-10, 17 and 18.

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Re: Masterpiece MP-19 Smokescreen In-Hand Images (1494582)
Posted by DevastaTTor on June 12th, 2013 @ 6:31am CDT

Man, they're not messing around when it comes to cartoon accuracy! The head may be a little too accurate but overall, this a great looking remold/repaint of the mold. Keeping my preorder for sure.

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Posted by hinomars19 on June 12th, 2013 @ 6:51am CDT

Man this guy is mean! :shock:

Yes, please and thank you!

Re: Masterpiece MP-19 Smokescreen In-Hand Images (1494589)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on June 12th, 2013 @ 7:12am CDT

I'd long forgotten how Smokescreen looked like in the G1 cartoons, and now that I've got a good look at the Masterpiece toy, I don't think I like his design at all. The shoulder cannons are dinky, and his head looks weird.

I absolutely love his alt mode, though.

Re: Masterpiece MP-19 Smokescreen In-Hand Images (1494591)
Posted by AutoBorst on June 12th, 2013 @ 7:23am CDT

Wow, that looks really great. But I'm still sticking to Prowl, I'm not going to get sucked into buying multiple repaints like I did with their Seekers mold.

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Posted by Ravage XK on June 12th, 2013 @ 7:48am CDT

A few days ago I posted that I wasn't buying multiples of the same mold. I am now a liar. Prowl and Smokescreen will now both be mine.

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Posted by Cyberpath on June 12th, 2013 @ 8:11am CDT

Yes! This looks great. And my MP-10 will finally have some Autobot cars.

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Posted by mooncake623 on June 12th, 2013 @ 8:34am CDT

ZOMG!!! getting 2. and they're both already paid for!

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Posted by Eagleblaster on June 12th, 2013 @ 8:48am CDT

Man this is becoming a hard choice whether to get Smokescreen or Prowl. Leaning towards Smoke cause I already got a cop car being Human Alliance Baricade. I have no Smokescreen at all but this Mp-19 robot mode looks kind of funny and that front air duct thing in car mode takes away from the overall realness of the Nissan vehicle.

Re: Masterpiece MP-19 Smokescreen In-Hand Images (1494624)
Posted by Rated X on June 12th, 2013 @ 9:24am CDT

He looks great but the figure scales horrible with MP Prime. He almost looks like a mini-bot standing face to face with Prime’s groin area. MP scale has become a joke, as they seem to be focus more on the vehicles scale with each other rather than the robots. Seems stupid if you’re shooting for cartoon accuracy. Ill stick with classics.

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Posted by Eagleblaster on June 12th, 2013 @ 10:24am CDT

Ok, here is the scoop. Smokescreen and Prowl both look good. They look like to different toys in car mode. I could just picture displaying mp Lambo, mp Prowl and mp Smokescreen in car modes side by side to each other in that order* Awesome *. Smokescreen's robot mode is lacking a little but as a transformers fan or collector you Have to Have that vintage race car cause its truely one of a kind and might even stay one of a kind forever.

Congrads to Takara for making me have to make this decision to avoid any toy stress, lol. So its official. This will be the first time I'm buying two figures from the same mold. Mp Smokescreen and mp Prowl... :APPLAUSE:

Only the best of the best over here.

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Posted by Cyberpath on June 12th, 2013 @ 12:15pm CDT

Yeah!

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Posted by jamarmiller on June 12th, 2013 @ 12:18pm CDT

when will amazon japan get their pre-order up !!! the wait is killing me LOL

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Posted by TimothyR on June 12th, 2013 @ 1:10pm CDT

Man, I don't know how some of you guys can just get one of these, they look incredible together.

Not getting prowl because you have barricade is probably the strangest reason I've ever heard.

I don't quite understand the "I'm only going to buy one of this mold" mentality. G1 was built on repaints.

Anyways. Smokescreen looks perfect, I love the head. Each head give each character it's own personality, it's fantastic.

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Posted by DetoxRetox on June 12th, 2013 @ 2:11pm CDT

I think he's wonderful! He may be my favorite of the three!

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Posted by MGrotusque on June 12th, 2013 @ 3:01pm CDT

Rated X wrote:He looks great but the figure scales horrible with MP Prime. He almost looks like a mini-bot standing face to face with Prime’s groin area. MP scale has become a joke, as they seem to be focus more on the vehicles scale with each other rather than the robots. Seems stupid if you’re shooting for cartoon accuracy. Ill stick with classics.

I believe "horrible" is a little strong of a word. Your exaggerating.

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Posted by Sabrblade on June 12th, 2013 @ 4:51pm CDT

MGrotusque wrote:
Rated X wrote:He looks great but the figure scales horrible with MP Prime. He almost looks like a mini-bot standing face to face with Prime’s groin area. MP scale has become a joke, as they seem to be focus more on the vehicles scale with each other rather than the robots. Seems stupid if you’re shooting for cartoon accuracy. Ill stick with classics.

I believe "horrible" is a little strong of a word. Your exaggerating.

It's X, what'd ya expect?

Anyway, this is why Smokescreen's that tall with Prime:

Second-to-bottom row, third character from the left is Smokescreen.

If anything, the MP toy is even taller than how Smokescreen's official scale in the cartoon was, since the cartoon model's head and guns came up to Prime's waist, while the toy's head and guns go above Prime's waist.

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Posted by Skullcrunchberries on June 12th, 2013 @ 5:14pm CDT

...well crap, I think I need to get Smokescreen now. Time to update that preorder.

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Posted by Son of Carl on June 12th, 2013 @ 5:30pm CDT

TimothyR wrote:Man, I don't know how some of you guys can just get one of these, they look incredible together.

Not getting prowl because you have barricade is probably the strangest reason I've ever heard.

I don't quite understand the "I'm only going to buy one of this mold" mentality. G1 was built on repaints.

Anyways. Smokescreen looks perfect, I love the head. Each head give each character it's own personality, it's fantastic.

I can understand financial reasons, but beyond that, I agree with you. I think all these figures look great together, and different enough from each other that the fact that they share a base mold isn't overwhelmingly obvious. I will be buying every pre-movie MP that they release, especially if it's Reflector. I have my vintage collection, but this is the only new Transformers line that I collect(though I do have a few TFP figures). Masterpiece is actually the line that got me back into collecting Transformers, and now after so many years of waiting, it's finally becoming the line that I was hoping it would be way back then.

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Posted by Stormrider on June 12th, 2013 @ 6:20pm CDT

Rated X wrote:He looks great but the figure scales horrible with MP Prime. He almost looks like a mini-bot standing face to face with Prime’s groin area. MP scale has become a joke, as they seem to be focus more on the vehicles scale with each other rather than the robots. Seems stupid if you’re shooting for cartoon accuracy. Ill stick with classics.

I hear what you are saying Rated X, it does seem that way, but the designers did say that they were trying very hard to make both the robot and alt modes in scale with the cartoons.

At first, I did not like the results. But now, I have gotten used it and appreciate the size difference more and more. Let's face it, Prime's a truck, his bot mode should tower over his fellow Autobots who transform into cars. I like the fact that Prime is much bigger than Sideswipe.

I have been getting into the IDW comics, so maybe my perspective has gotten skewed, but I think Cyberpath's comparison below is spot on.

Cyberpath wrote:

Yeah!

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Posted by Wh33l Jck on June 12th, 2013 @ 7:52pm CDT

I'm trying to limit myself to MTMTE pilot characters, this is going to be tough.

He looks so cartoon accurate in robot mode!

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Posted by padfoo on June 12th, 2013 @ 8:33pm CDT

They all look great, very G1 accurate and different enough to be worth picking up.

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Posted by Rated X on June 13th, 2013 @ 1:02am CDT

Rather than being slavish to “chosen” pictures from google, lets pull out the camera and see what we find…

Sure Optimus was portrayed as being huge a lot. But there were plenty of times the vehicle scale was ignored and the Autobots were given a more human like scale instead of midgets and giants.

The Decepticons always seemed to be more or less around the same height. And when they fought the Autobot cars head on in robot mode, the seekers and Soundwave were usually just a little taller. And isn’t Prime supposed to be the same height as Megatron ?

For all of you who think Hasbro’s MP scale based on car sizes is perfect, don’t ever expect to see MP Mini-bots. In real life a VW Beetle isn’t that much bigger than a Porsche or a Datsun. And would a truck like Huffer the same size as a VW Beetle even be possible? I think not. The MP scale isn’t so great. Classics scales are a lot more fun to display in groups. MP Scale looks better alone on a coffee table for your all time favorite character. And that’s my opinion, I’m not trying to push it as a fact.

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Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on June 13th, 2013 @ 2:13am CDT

Rated X wrote:For all of you who think Hasbro’s MP scale based on car sizes is perfect, don’t ever expect to see MP Mini-bots. In real life a VW Beetle isn’t that much bigger than a Porsche or a Datsun. And would a truck like Huffer the same size as a VW Beetle even be possible? I think not.

You make an interesting point. Furthermore, the G1 cartoon's scale-accuracy to real life vehicles were also hampered by the fact that toys from which the cartoon was based on, came from different toylines that had nothing to do with each other.

IIRC, the Microman line was supposed to consist of robots that transformed into 1:1 scale objects like guns and micro-cassette players, and had its own unique storyline.

Huffer, Bee, Brawn, Gears, Windcharger and Cliffjumper were from the Choro-Q line of super-deformed cars. These weren't even meant to scale in with each other.

In short, they used the sizes of the toys in relation to each other as reference points for the cartoon...toys from completely different lines back when they were released as Takara products.

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Posted by TimothyR on June 13th, 2013 @ 2:16am CDT

Son of Carl wrote:
TimothyR wrote:Man, I don't know how some of you guys can just get one of these, they look incredible together.

Not getting prowl because you have barricade is probably the strangest reason I've ever heard.

I don't quite understand the "I'm only going to buy one of this mold" mentality. G1 was built on repaints.

Anyways. Smokescreen looks perfect, I love the head. Each head give each character it's own personality, it's fantastic.

I can understand financial reasons, but beyond that, I agree with you. I think all these figures look great together, and different enough from each other that the fact that they share a base mold isn't overwhelmingly obvious. I will be buying every pre-movie MP that they release, especially if it's Reflector. I have my vintage collection, but this is the only new Transformers line that I collect(though I do have a few TFP figures). Masterpiece is actually the line that got me back into collecting Transformers, and now after so many years of waiting, it's finally becoming the line that I was hoping it would be way back then.

I totally forgot to mention that I understand financial reasons. My bad.

I collect other lines.. But the masterpiece line is my absolute favorite.. Ever since MP10, takara has really been doing an incredible job. I enjoy all of the MP releases, but lately, they've all been perfect.

I hope that someday I'll be able to own all of the G1 characters in masterpiece form. (At least the ones that were on the show)

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Posted by Eagleblaster on June 13th, 2013 @ 11:00am CDT

That Smokescreen is looking worse and worse. I admit that I'm a flip flopper. One day or moment I might say a figure is great then the next minute I might say its bad. I'm only getting Mp-17. Mp-19 looks like it belongs with the alternators line where most of them robot modes where chunky and blocky. Those extra parts on Smokes take away his superhero V shape and some other stuff I mentioned in previous post about him.

Mp Prowl is the best of the trio cause he just looks and seems like the better Hero toy. I'm saving my money for realistic transformers from now on mainly pertaining to movie figures. The only figures that got on my collection this year was: Mp-17, Beast Hunters voyager Predaking, legion tp Smokescreen and Dotm HA Skids.

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Posted by Cyberpath on June 13th, 2013 @ 2:55pm CDT

I actually like that they made Smokescreen somewhat "clunkier," because it's consistent with the show. And helps individualise him more.

Floro Dery designed the second season Autobots closer to the toys. Perhaps to make the cast appear more diverse. And I think it worked -- I didn't know that Smokescreen and Prowl (or for that matter, Trailbreaker & Hoist; Sideswipe & Red Alert) shared the same toy mold until years later.

Regarding scale. AKOM, in their three episodes, seemed to follow the size chart that Sabrblade posted earlier more closely.

(As a kid, I did notice that they looked fairly smaller in those episodes.)

The exact height difference between Optimus Prime and the rest of the Autobots wasn't always consistent throughout the series; but, what usually was, was that Prime (and I suppose, Blaster) were the tallest; followed by other truck/van characters like Inferno/Grapple/Ironhide/Ratchet/Trailbreaker; then the sports cars with the misc characters like Preceptor/Warpath/Powerglide; then lastly, the "mini" bots.

(Of course when I say Prime was the tallest Autobot, I mean after unusual characters like Omega Supreme, Skyfire, the Dinobots etc.)

I pulled a couple of grabs from memory from my DVDs for illustration.

I think Takara balanced between the alt & root modes rather nicely with the Masterpiece Autobots so far. Initially, when I saw photos of MP-12 next to MP-10, Sideswipe looked a little small to me. I will have a better feel after I get the Nissanbots. They look fantastic!

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Posted by Stormrider on June 13th, 2013 @ 3:53pm CDT

Rated X wrote:For all of you who think Hasbro’s MP scale based on car sizes is perfect, don’t ever expect to see MP Mini-bots. In real life a VW Beetle isn’t that much bigger than a Porsche or a Datsun. And would a truck like Huffer the same size as a VW Beetle even be possible? I think not. The MP scale isn’t so great. Classics scales are a lot more fun to display in groups. MP Scale looks better alone on a coffee table for your all time favorite character. And that’s my opinion, I’m not trying to push it as a fact.

I would be very interested in seeing Takara do the Minibots in MP style. They talked about plans for MP Huffer but scrapped it b/c of costs. I don't see why they couldn't engineer a figure so the robot mode would be smaller than it's alt mode. I would expect that Huffer's alt mode would not be the same size Prime's alt mode. Huffer's alt mode was much smaller in the show, as were most Minibots.

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Posted by REMINATOR on June 14th, 2013 @ 3:17pm CDT

Cyberpath wrote:

That is good scaling, what episode is this from Cyberpath?

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Posted by Cyberpath on June 14th, 2013 @ 3:26pm CDT

REMINATOR wrote:That is good scaling, what episode is this from Cyberpath?

The Autobot Run.

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Posted by REMINATOR on June 14th, 2013 @ 3:28pm CDT

Cyberpath wrote:
REMINATOR wrote:That is good scaling, what episode is this from Cyberpath?
The Autobot Run.

thanks man,

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Posted by Sabrblade on June 14th, 2013 @ 3:31pm CDT

REMINATOR wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:

That is good scaling,

Yeah, look at how tall Sunstreaker (Sideswipe's twin, btw) is compared to Prime. This is pretty much how the Masterpiece toys reflect the cartoon scale.

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Posted by Eagleblaster on June 14th, 2013 @ 3:37pm CDT

I flip flopped again and preordered Mp Smokescreen again after cancelling the the initial preorder I made. I'm getting mp Prowl but if I can successfully get Smokes for 60$ then I'm going with that. Smokescreen is the weakest if the bunch but his car mode looks not bad and it seems rite now its the "Hot Toy". And plus i don't want everyone to get one and be so happy with it and leave me felling left out.

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Posted by Cyberpath on June 14th, 2013 @ 4:02pm CDT

REMINATOR wrote:thanks man,

No problem!

Eagleblaster wrote:I flip flopped again and preordered Mp Smokescreen again after cancelling the the initial preorder I made. I'm getting mp Prowl but if I can successfully get Smokes for 60$ then I'm going with that. Smokescreen is the weakest if the bunch but his car mode looks not bad and it seems rite now its the "Hot Toy". And plus i don't want everyone to get one and be so happy with it and leave me felling left out.

This is just my impression, but pre-ordering a Masterpiece toy strikes me as a win-win situation for the buyer.

If you end up liking the toy, good, you won't have to pay through the nose for it later on eBay (or "window shop." oh, Sideswipe, why do you taunt me?)

And if you end up not liking it, you could always auction it on eBay a few weeks or months later; likely earning enough to pre-order the next 2-3 Masterpieces.
(I've never auctioned anything myself, but I see what goes on there with the MP line. Wild.)

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Posted by Eagleblaster on June 14th, 2013 @ 5:09pm CDT

Cyberpath wrote:
REMINATOR wrote:thanks man,
No problem!

Eagleblaster wrote:I flip flopped again and preordered Mp Smokescreen again after cancelling the the initial preorder I made. I'm getting mp Prowl but if I can successfully get Smokes for 60$ then I'm going with that. Smokescreen is the weakest if the bunch but his car mode looks not bad and it seems rite now its the "Hot Toy". And plus i don't want everyone to get one and be so happy with it and leave me felling left out.
This is just my impression, but pre-ordering a Masterpiece toy strikes me as a win-win situation for the buyer.

If you end up liking the toy, good, you won't have to pay through the nose for it later on eBay (or "window shop." oh, Sideswipe, why do you taunt me?)

And if you end up not liking it, you could always auction it on eBay a few weeks or months later; likely earning enough to pre-order the next 2-3 Masterpieces.
(I've never auctioned anything myself, but I see what goes on there with the MP line. Wild.)

Yeah you are rite about that. Im still kindof regretting not buying mp-10 when I saw it on toysrus.com for retail price. Now they he having these smaller masterpieces looking good and scaled nicely next to mp-10.