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News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:30 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I'd be interested if he were a generic deluxe from Hasbro, but I'm not paying that kind of money for completion's sake. Just owning MP Prowl's good enough for me.
He's too big to be a Deluxe. He's more of a short Voyager.

Actually, I prefer a bit of size difference for characters who share similar alt modes and designs, to further differentiate them from the original. I decided to use Classics Red Alert to go with MP Sideswipe, so they won't looks like the same toy simply repainted in different colors.

Personally, I think the size difference between deluxes and MP cars isn't so obvious that they can't be displayed side-by-side.

by **Son of Carl** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:25 pm

I just can't wait to see what Takara has to reveal this weekend at the Tokyo Toy Show. I think that they said that all three of the Nissans would be on display, plus something new.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:14 am

Thanks to site sponsor Kapow! Toys we have a look at the third use of the MP-17 mold, in the guise of MP-19 Smokescreen. The images, mirrored below for those of you without Facebook access, show the figure by itself and next to other MP figures for comparison, including MP-10, 17 and 18.

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:31 am

Man, they're not messing around when it comes to cartoon accuracy! The head may be a little too accurate but overall, this a great looking remold/repaint of the mold. Keeping my preorder for sure.

by **hinomars19** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:51 am

Man this guy is mean! :shock:

Yes, please and thank you!

News Credits: 1 · by **SKYWARPED_128** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:12 am

I'd long forgotten how Smokescreen looked like in the G1 cartoons, and now that I've got a good look at the Masterpiece toy, I don't think I like his design at all. The shoulder cannons are dinky, and his head looks weird.

I absolutely love his alt mode, though.

by **AutoBorst** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:23 am

Wow, that looks really great. But I'm still sticking to Prowl, I'm not going to get sucked into buying multiple repaints like I did with their Seekers mold.

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:48 am

A few days ago I posted that I wasn't buying multiples of the same mold. I am now a liar. Prowl and Smokescreen will now both be mine.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:11 am

Yes! This looks great. And my MP-10 will finally have some Autobot cars.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:34 am

ZOMG!!! getting 2. and they're both already paid for!

by **Eagleblaster** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:48 am

Man this is becoming a hard choice whether to get Smokescreen or Prowl. Leaning towards Smoke cause I already got a cop car being Human Alliance Baricade. I have no Smokescreen at all but this Mp-19 robot mode looks kind of funny and that front air duct thing in car mode takes away from the overall realness of the Nissan vehicle.

by **Rated X** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:24 am

He looks great but the figure scales horrible with MP Prime. He almost looks like a mini-bot standing face to face with Prime’s groin area. MP scale has become a joke, as they seem to be focus more on the vehicles scale with each other rather than the robots. Seems stupid if you’re shooting for cartoon accuracy. Ill stick with classics.

by **Eagleblaster** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:24 am

Ok, here is the scoop. Smokescreen and Prowl both look good. They look like to different toys in car mode. I could just picture displaying mp Lambo, mp Prowl and mp Smokescreen in car modes side by side to each other in that order* Awesome *. Smokescreen's robot mode is lacking a little but as a transformers fan or collector you Have to Have that vintage race car cause its truely one of a kind and might even stay one of a kind forever.

Congrads to Takara for making me have to make this decision to avoid any toy stress, lol. So its official. This will be the first time I'm buying two figures from the same mold. Mp Smokescreen and mp Prowl... :APPLAUSE:

Only the best of the best over here.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:15 am

Yeah!

by **jamarmiller** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:18 am

when will amazon japan get their pre-order up !!! the wait is killing me LOL

by **TimothyR** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:10 pm

Man, I don't know how some of you guys can just get one of these, they look incredible together.

Not getting prowl because you have barricade is probably the strangest reason I've ever heard.

I don't quite understand the "I'm only going to buy one of this mold" mentality. G1 was built on repaints.

Anyways. Smokescreen looks perfect, I love the head. Each head give each character it's own personality, it's fantastic.

by **DetoxRetox** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:11 pm

I think he's wonderful! He may be my favorite of the three!

by **MGrotusque** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:01 pm

Rated X wrote:He looks great but the figure scales horrible with MP Prime. He almost looks like a mini-bot standing face to face with Prime’s groin area. MP scale has become a joke, as they seem to be focus more on the vehicles scale with each other rather than the robots. Seems stupid if you’re shooting for cartoon accuracy. Ill stick with classics.

I believe "horrible" is a little strong of a word. Your exaggerating.

News Credits: 441 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:51 pm

MGrotusque wrote:
Rated X wrote:He looks great but the figure scales horrible with MP Prime. He almost looks like a mini-bot standing face to face with Prime’s groin area. MP scale has become a joke, as they seem to be focus more on the vehicles scale with each other rather than the robots. Seems stupid if you’re shooting for cartoon accuracy. Ill stick with classics.

I believe "horrible" is a little strong of a word. Your exaggerating.

It's X, what'd ya expect?

Anyway, this is why Smokescreen's that tall with Prime:

Second-to-bottom row, third character from the left is Smokescreen.

If anything, the MP toy is even taller than how Smokescreen's official scale in the cartoon was, since the cartoon model's head and guns came up to Prime's waist, while the toy's head and guns go above Prime's waist.

by **Skullcrunchberries** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:14 pm

...well crap, I think I need to get Smokescreen now. Time to update that preorder.

by **Son of Carl** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:30 pm

TimothyR wrote:Man, I don't know how some of you guys can just get one of these, they look incredible together.

Not getting prowl because you have barricade is probably the strangest reason I've ever heard.

I don't quite understand the "I'm only going to buy one of this mold" mentality. G1 was built on repaints.

Anyways. Smokescreen looks perfect, I love the head. Each head give each character it's own personality, it's fantastic.

I can understand financial reasons, but beyond that, I agree with you. I think all these figures look great together, and different enough from each other that the fact that they share a base mold isn't overwhelmingly obvious. I will be buying every pre-movie MP that they release, especially if it's Reflector. I have my vintage collection, but this is the only new Transformers line that I collect(though I do have a few TFP figures). Masterpiece is actually the line that got me back into collecting Transformers, and now after so many years of waiting, it's finally becoming the line that I was hoping it would be way back then.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:20 pm

Rated X wrote:He looks great but the figure scales horrible with MP Prime. He almost looks like a mini-bot standing face to face with Prime’s groin area. MP scale has become a joke, as they seem to be focus more on the vehicles scale with each other rather than the robots. Seems stupid if you’re shooting for cartoon accuracy. Ill stick with classics.

I hear what you are saying Rated X, it does seem that way, but the designers did say that they were trying very hard to make both the robot and alt modes in scale with the cartoons.

At first, I did not like the results. But now, I have gotten used it and appreciate the size difference more and more. Let's face it, Prime's a truck, his bot mode should tower over his fellow Autobots who transform into cars. I like the fact that Prime is much bigger than Sideswipe.

I have been getting into the IDW comics, so maybe my perspective has gotten skewed, but I think Cyberpath's comparison below is spot on.

Cyberpath wrote:

Yeah!

by **Wh33l Jck** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:52 pm

I'm trying to limit myself to MTMTE pilot characters, this is going to be tough.

He looks so cartoon accurate in robot mode!

News Credits: 4 · by **padfoo** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:33 pm

They all look great, very G1 accurate and different enough to be worth picking up.

by **Rated X** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:02 am

Rather than being slavish to “chosen” pictures from google, lets pull out the camera and see what we find…

Sure Optimus was portrayed as being huge a lot. But there were plenty of times the vehicle scale was ignored and the Autobots were given a more human like scale instead of midgets and giants.

The Decepticons always seemed to be more or less around the same height. And when they fought the Autobot cars head on in robot mode, the seekers and Soundwave were usually just a little taller. And isn’t Prime supposed to be the same height as Megatron ?

For all of you who think Hasbro’s MP scale based on car sizes is perfect, don’t ever expect to see MP Mini-bots. In real life a VW Beetle isn’t that much bigger than a Porsche or a Datsun. And would a truck like Huffer the same size as a VW Beetle even be possible? I think not. The MP scale isn’t so great. Classics scales are a lot more fun to display in groups. MP Scale looks better alone on a coffee table for your all time favorite character. And that’s my opinion, I’m not trying to push it as a fact.