Masterpiece MP12's Identity Revealed... Sideswipe!

WTF?
Now that's a huge surprise, especially since I thought the next one was Soundwave.

That will be awesome, and a nice change of pace.

feels like a curveball for sure. I hope doing an autobot means the next one is a decepticon.

Ohhh, Sideswipe, that's pretty cool. So, what scale will he be? I'm guesing around Alternators size, But he'll need to be even smaller (Classics / RtS / Generations car scale or Alternity scale), if he's going to be in scale with MP-10, right? I wonder if they are letting comparable scales go again?

It's not entirely unwelcome, but kind of wtf. A little annoying because we already have Binaltech Lambor. I would've liked to see a character we haven't had on a large scale yet, like Soundwave or Galvatron. Still, I'm interested. Surprised Lamborghini will let them do it.

kirbenvost wrote:Still, I'm interested. Surprised Lamborghini will let them do it.

My thoughts exactly. Then again, what does the (Japanese) law say about car models that have been taken out of production, like the Countach?

Wow, for real? This is crazy. Sideswipe is my favorite Transformer but I never thought I would see the day they made him a figure for the Masterpiece line. I feel like this awesome news is somehow the universe making it up to me in karma for the disaster of an ending that Mass Effect 3 was.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Still, I'm interested. Surprised Lamborghini will let them do it.

My thoughts exactly. Then again, what does the (Japanese) law say about car models that have been taken out of production, like the Countach?

I don't know, it would be interesting to know. I imagine a company like that would be very aggressive in protecting their property though.

I was expecting Soundwave too.
But now that I see it's an Autobot, I'd have preferred one of the Jazz mould Autobots, I think Prowl would've been nicer.

Unexpected, but cool nonetheless! Five bucks says he'll have his piledriver hands, or the one he had in Fire on the Mountain.

Yes please Hasbro!!!!!!

Also, according to Robotkingdom on facebook, they're looking into making MP Soundwave and to release Fortress Maximus on the 30th Aniversary:

Possible upcoming takara items
Takara crew that they will look into masterpiece Soundwave!
Also, possible encore Fortress Maximus during 30th anniversary !!!!!!!!!!!! Even tough they can't ganrantee, but still deeply looking forward to those 2 items !

source: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Robotking ... 7899870600

I'm cool with this if the scale is right with MP-10. If in the right scale, hopefully he'll be a little smaller and cheaper, making it less painful to buy 2-3 of this mold.

However I fear he'll be expensive to cover Lamborghini's licensing fees.

Oooo, yes please.

SIDESWIPE!!!! How the heck is Sideswipe worthy of a Masterpiece toy ahead of Galvatron? What about the Masterpiece Huffer that was shown in the Generations 2011 book, was that rejected over Sideswipe and Sunstorm? Well, at least it the next one isn't Megatron 2.0 I suppose.



Edit: On second thought, if made cheaper since it will be a smaller product they may be able to fund more Masterpiece toys but doing characters such as Sideswipe and Huffer. I wouldn't but them if they were over $100 though. $60 maybe but any more and I would think twice.

double post, please delete

Think about it guys - its the repaint value that counts here. The just released Rodimus that has maybe 1? repaint in him, so they need a generic to make more capital before we can have a specialist such as Soundwave/Shockwave/Galvatron. Besides, we are a bit short on Autobot MP's after all the bloody seekers they have released.

Assuming this will be re-tooled for Sunstreaker later on (as well as Wildrider/Dead End/Battlechargers/limited black repaints/generic Autobot soldier #4) if they do a Punch/Counterpunch version of this ill be selling my house and buying four.


edit: And of course Red Alert

I would imagine TT&H will have to pay a pretty hefty royalty fee just the the Lamborghini logo alone.

Now, onto the matter at hand. Sideswipe was my FAVORITE when I was young, and still might be to this day. I remember how absolutely jacked I got when they first teased us at Botcon 07 that we would get Sideswipe & Sunstreaker... then sadly I was super let down when he was released because he wasn't as perfect as they concept art (Octane knows that feeling too, I'm sure) so I can't help but feel that a MP Lambor/Sideswipe will have everything I want in a, well, MP Lambor/Sideswipe.

Won't lie though, I was really hoping for a MP Galvatron.

Oh well, with this announcement and the fact that so many WFC/FOC characters will be making it into the Generations line I'm 100% sure we'll get our WFC Sideswipe now!

I'm am so happy that this is coming out and I'm hoping he drops in September. With this release now it seems anyone is masterpiecire worthy like wheeljack or ironhide.

I just can't get past the WTF factor. If he's small enough to fit in with MP-10 then he'd better be a damned site cheaper. Like half price. If he's scaled with MP-01 then he'll replace the Bin/Alt version and that will annoy me and he'd still better be a damned site cheaper than recent releases. Why aren't they giving us Galvatron and Soundwave?

I won't buy the traditional look, but if they do a G2 repaint? I am allllll over that.

I wouldn't have put money on Sideswipe being the next MP in a million years, but it's not an unpleasant surprise.

I hope he is in scale with the MP Seekers.

And I'll definitely buy the Sunstreaker repaint, but I may give Red Alert a miss this time 'round.

Wasn't really expecting this guy to be next one, but then again it's not that bad choice. Hope they use that old lambo chassis for this one. I think it would look better.

I wonder how they'll implement a Sunstreaker version? Red Alert, Clamp down and Tiger Track in the pipe line next?

Let the mold squeezing begin ala the Seekers

THANK THE LORD GOD IN HEAVEN!!!! At least now we don't have to endure countless repaints...or version 2.0 of whoever before getting a TRUE new Masterpiece. As far as the Lambo liscencing....as long as they don't use the badge, and change some small details about the car they should be able to escape having to pay them sums of money that would reflect in the pricing. Come on wordlwide release!!!!!!!!

Oh C'MON. Where's the masterpiece Ironhide? At least Sideswipes G1 toy looked like the character model. UNLIKE Ironhide (and possible remold ratchet)

I'm very curious about scale.

Will he be the size of a BT/Alt? Alternity? Or larger to match up with the seekers more like they did in the show?
Obviously, it will all affect price.

Kinda hoping it'll be the size of an Alternity, but BT/Alt scale would be OK too.
If they go larger, I'm not sure if I'll be interested.

Curiouser and curiouser.

I am really uninterested in this Sideswipe.

It's such a strange choice and if it's anywhere in line with the cost of MP-10, you can forget it.

As was brought up already, scale is going to be an issue. In line with MP-01 (unlikely), MP-10 (probably), or out of scale with all of the above? (Even more likely)

Don't Get me wrong LOVE Sideswipe, but from a marketing stand point a $$$ standpoint- HE"S THE AUTOBOT"s SEEKER...

Let the repaints begin:
G1
G2
Deepcover
Tigertracks
Shattered Glass
G2 "Go-bot" Sideswipe

Slight retool:
Red Alert
Clampdown
RID Prowl

Stretches?
Stunticon Breakdown?
Micromaster Free Wheeler?
Mcro Deadwheeler
Micro Neo-Wheeler

Damn I hate working in Marketing...

Trikeboy wrote:SIDESWIPE!!!! How the heck is Sideswipe worthy of a Masterpiece toy ahead of Galvatron? What about the Masterpiece Huffer that was shown in the Generations 2011 book, was that rejected over Sideswipe and Sunstorm? Well, at least it the next one isn't Megatron 2.0 I suppose.

That huffer was meant to be with MP-10, dropped due to budget cuts.

Yeah, I'm afraid the logic behind this one eludes me slightly. Maybe they've just started pulling names from a hat.

On the plus side, if Sideswipe is eligible for MP treatment then I guess there are a lot more characters that are fair game. *cough*Dinobots!*cough*

Sodan-1 wrote:Yeah, I'm afraid the logic behind this one eludes me slightly. Maybe they've just started pulling names from a hat.

On the plus side, if Sideswipe is eligible for MP treatment then I guess there are a lot more characters that are fair game. *cough*Dinobots!*cough*

Good point.

Fricken Dinobots.

arg

Lame. Sorry Sideswipe fans, I just don't think he's MP worthy. Alternity worthy? Certainly. But MP worthy? I'd rather they stuck with the G1 leaders. You'd think Megatron or Galvatron would be next on their hit list. Or even Star Saber and Deathsaurus; I don't know much about them as characters, but they're G1 leaders with kick ass designs.

He's supposedly coming out this fall (see video below).
If its to scale with MP-10, it would be out of scale with MP-11...

Scale issues ...
Oh well, if its around the $120 mark like ghost starscream i'll be getting it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcd-BB4n ... e=youtu.be

I am surprised with this choice as the next MP.

If he is in scale with the Seekers and Rodimus, I am all over it. If he is in scale with the smaller OP, I will skip it.

Bear in mind that Rodimus changes into an oversized super sports car and Winnebago. And movie MP BB is also oversized as a car. I think Sideswipe will be similarly massive as well.

It would be nice if this signaled the start of slightly smaller, more affordable MPs, but probably not.

Not MP worthy? Rubbish. Everyone in G1 seasons 1-4 is MP worthy!!!!!

Sideswipe. Yes! Yes! Yes! My very first transformer when I was little. Lovin it.

Everyone thought Galvatron for sure or Soundwave - surprise!!! BAM!!! U just got hit with the white missle!! Don't get me wrong, i'd love to see the 2 aforementioned guys too.

This opens up a can of worms for me. My modern tf collection is Masterpiece/Binaltech/3rd parties in that approx. scale. But my only problem with the Binaltech series is that they are not quite G1 accurate enough for my tastes. Now that Masterpiece is dipping into the Autobot cars, I may have to sell of my BT collection to follow the Masterpiece line completely. Yikes, and I<m alreay broke! I do hope they follow this up with Red Alert, though I think Sunstreaker would need a unique mold to be a Masterpiece. The whole point of Masterpiece to me is G1 'toon accuracy, and Sunstreaker was not a Sideswipe clone, despite the similar car mode.

^ Unless they can somehow engineer it really well like they did with the Universe mold. Considering how different their transformations really are, probably not, but it would be a feat of engineering if they could.

At the very least we'll see a Red Alert and a couple others out of this.

The next MP I'll be buying is either a new Megatron or Galvatron.

I just have no interest in these guys.

This may or may not have been stated previously but anyway here goes.

I'm not entirely sure this was a good/bad decision on Tak's part but none-the-less a pleasant surprise. Now if we look at the choices in MP figures to date with the exception of Megatron and Grimlock every mold used has had repaint/re-release marketability. Rodimus maybe the one that has you think twice about this but not really. With one mold you in essence have at least 2 figures sold in the fact those who want to display both modes will purchase at least 2.

As previously stated Sideswipe gives us the "autobot seeker effect" in the fact that with one mold it is almost assured we will be getting at least a Red Alert repaint. Other possible releases could be Sunstreaker, Breakdown, G2 Sideswipe and RiD Prowl/Car Robots Mach Alert.

I don't foresee Sunstreaker being released with this mold simply because he was in fact a Diablo, not a Countach and if TT needs the licensing agreement they most definitely will get the 2 for 1 deal instead of having to go back at a later date and secure the second license/pay further royalties.

I also don't see Breakdown being released simply because it would admit to no gestalts being released under the MP line. Not that any are being planned but for continuity purposes TT seems careful with this concept unlike Hasbro. So that leaves us with The G2 Sideswipe repaint and Car Robots Mach Alert/RiD Prowl. I believe G2 sideswipe will be an ehobby release and RiD Prowl/Car Robots Mach Alert being something on the back burner.

Just my thoughts and sorry for being long winded.

OMG

*faints*

If this is true put me down for one.

Shadowsyn wrote:I don't foresee Sunstreaker being released with this mold simply because he was in fact a Diablo, not a Countach and if TT needs the licensing agreement they most definitely will get the 2 for 1 deal instead of having to go back at a later date and secure the second license/pay further royalties.

Forget licensing, how would you turn this:


into this:


By the by, G1 Sunstreaker was still a Countach, a Countach LP500S to be exact, while Sideswipe was a New Countach LP500S. There were Diablos in the TF lines, and they include:

- G2 Firecracker/G2 Gobot Sideswipe/G2 Gobot Optimus Prime/RiD R.E.V.
- RiD Prowl

So for repaint ideas, we're limited to:

- Red Alert
- Clamp Down
- Deep Cover
- Tigertrack

And I find the latter three highly unlikely

I'm surprised. Honest to spaghettimonster! Bring it, Takaratomy.

Pass. Let me know when the G2 version shows up. If I even care by then.

So I got the TRU Hot Rod, couldn't afford MP-10 Optimus, don't need the MP-11 Starscream because I have the Walmart one and the Coronation set for it, and I'm passing on this. The next MP I'll be getting is a 3rd Party Soundwave. What happened to the Masterpiece line?

zodconvoy wrote:Pass. Let me know when the G2 version shows up. If I even care by then.

So I got the TRU Hot Rod, couldn't afford MP-10 Optimus, don't need the MP-11 Starscream because I have the Walmart one and the Coronation set for it, and I'm passing on this. The next MP I'll be getting is a 3rd Party Soundwave. What happened to the Masterpiece line?

Crap plastic and a huge pricetag?

surprised because it doesn't scream "repaint potential" nor, more importantly, "classic iconic character". If the Autobots were to get "Seeker'd Up" I'd have thought there'd be a Prowl/Smokescreen/Bluestreak(and maybe Jazz if they were really clever) engineered and use that to bolster the average Bots side of things. Even Bumblebee and Cliffjumper (and various repaints) would seem more likely to me, since even before the films BB was far more memorable than Sideswipe.

Still, I do quite like the character, and the idea of what he could look like. It's something I'm not super excited by, but does have potential. I'd fancy a G2 repaint, and Red Alert at least.

mmmm

guess i'd have to see the toy to get excited... mp's have becme a bit tedious since the rodimus offering, which i skipped, and the 2nd prime was a bit too much. They've become too expensive and perhaps a bit uninteresting. I have the original prime, megs, grimlock and starscream... soundwave or shockwave would make a nice entry.

perhaps the repaint potential was a reason for going with sideswipe but I am very happy with the generations.

now if they rereleased the 2nd optimus prime with a certain trailer.. i'd be willing to go to the 150 tag they've been asking for of late...

I actually like this, but I'm worried about the size. Also, WE NEED A SUNSTREAKER!