"Leaked from Cybertron" Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Snarl Prototype

I actually had a chance to purchase a starscream at even lower than that i Canada a few weeks back. But I didnt. Its then that I realized that no matter how good a deal is, if I dont like a toy then no price will make me get it.

You’ll save 100% of the price by not buying at all

the only thing good(not great) about that starscream is the combiner torso mode, now if we only had some seeker limbs

DeathReviews wrote:It's probably the only thing they could do to move the Voyager PotP Starscreams. Those are the only ones I ever see on the shelves. All the other ones are ones that people want to BUY

I've only seen Starscream twice in stores and that was back in early March, maybe even February. I got mine for $16 on Amazon which I think is fine, but I'm glad I wasn't enticed into paying full price. Now Grimlock, I sure would like to find him at retail price or less. I'm thinking I might just pass on Sludge and Snarl if I'm going to have to pay out the nose for Grimlock.

All Leaders are pretty much non-existent around me too.

Emerje

Hb must have over estimated 'screamer's worth/popularity. He's like PotP Bayfomrer's Bumblebee. The fig is like cluttering all the TRU stores I've been too!
It's either :

There are bands of scalpers gobbling up all the "we want figs" or Hb did another clusterfrack in distribution!

fenrir72 wrote:Hb must have over estimated 'screamer's worth/popularity. He's like PotP Bayfomrer's Bumblebee. The fig is like cluttering all the TRU stores I've been too!
It's either :

There are bands of scalpers gobbling up all the "we want figs" or Hb did another clusterfrack in distribution!

Or he's just another figure that's not selling as well as his wavemates - those happen all the time (Twinferno is probably a good recent example). I don't think there's really any way Hasbro could've reasonably packed less of him per case than they were already doing, and still actually distributed the toy.

Now as for whether it was a good call putting him in Wave 1 - the wave that almost certainly every store will get in large amounts - that's definitely up for debate, but I don't think this is exactly a distribution disaster on par with TLK or anything like that.

Come to think of it I did see a Broadside for 20 bucks on clearance at Walmart but I didn't think to take a pic.

Lol the emptiness of Kmart shelves, although the Kmart Narellan near where I live has quite a bit In stock

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

worldsgreatest wrote:Clearance isn't a sale, right? It's clearance. As in they won't be carrying POtP Voyagers anymore.

That's not how it works, as far as I know. Clearance has always seemed like the Walmart word for sale

Actually, they very well might stop carrying that assortment, at that particular store. Clearances are done at the store's discretion, meaning it's not across the whole chain. Rollbacks or sales tend to be more coordinated, but some can be store-specific.

Remind me to ask my father-in-law who works there.

even on sale they aren't worth it.....

Clearance can mean many different things in retail. If anything is being discontinued (food clothes, toys, whatever...) it may be clearanced to get rid of what they have. Walmart has sales and clearance, though it can be odd at times. Some tings are chain wide, others are very selective. There are literally 10 Walmarts I can drive to at any given time. One of them had wave 1 PM's on clearance for $3.00, but then after those were gone, they got in more wave 1 PM's and kept them at regular price $4.98. Wave 2 PM's have yet to appear at any store (Target or Walmart) near me.

I wonder if some Walmart stores are confusing the Power of the Primes assortments with the recently released Studio Series assortments. They are both labeled as "Transformers Generations" products and come in boxes with similar visual style and graphic design. With the Bumblebee movie not coming out for another half a year, maybe some stores don't realize that Studio Series is a movie line and not a replacement for the perennial "Generations" lines we've been enjoying for the past 8 years.

Wolfman Jake wrote:They are both labeled as "Transformers Generations" products and come in boxes with similar visual style and graphic design.

I assume you are referring to how the toys ship from the warehouse, not the packaging of the toys themselves?? -It could be, I don't know, but I do know that while some fans said there was nothing to be worried about with the Studio series taking up shelf space that could otherwise be used for PotP, I can say, this is NOW a legitimate concern of mine. I know this is supposed to be a *Best of the Best* from all 5 movies but...lets be honest, while I never collected any Movie based toys, the lines for the first 3 films seemingly sold fairly well, the last 2 however (AoE & TLK), were way overproduced and shelf warmed to near disgusting levels. Heck there are still some TLK toys clogging shelves of Targets, the only reason walmart got them out is because they clearance them out at up to 70% off. Hasbro should have taken a break with the movie line, I mean BB toys will probably start showing up around October. We could have enjoyed PotP until then. Of course I expect to see RiD15 toys on clearance next because those fugly Cyberverse toys I know are coming .

Studio series arrived way quicker, and in much greater quantities than I expected, and funny enough, they aren't moving.

o.supreme wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:They are both labeled as "Transformers Generations" products and come in boxes with similar visual style and graphic design.

I assume you are referring to how the toys ship from the warehouse, not the packaging of the toys themselves?? -It could be, I don't know, but I do know that while some fans said there was nothing to be worried about with the Studio series taking up shelf space that could otherwise be used for PotP, I can say, this is NOW a legitimate concern of mine. I know this is supposed to be a *Best of the Best* from all 5 movies but...lets be honest, while I never collected any Movie based toys, the lines for the first 3 films seemingly sold fairly well, the last 2 however (AoE & TLK), were way overproduced and shelf warmed to near disgusting levels. Heck there are still some TLK toys clogging shelves of Targets, the only reason walmart got them out is because they clearance them out at up to 70% off. Hasbro should have taken a break with the movie line, I mean BB toys will probably start showing up around October. We could have enjoyed PotP until then. Of course I expect to see RiD15 toys on clearance next because those fugly Cyberverse toys I know are coming .

Studio series arrived way quicker, and in much greater quantities than I expected, and funny enough, they aren't moving.

No, I mean the actual windowed boxes that the individual figures come in. They all have a white band to the side with red "Transformers" lettering.

Well I could see that perhaps with the Voyagers. But the Deluxes for SS are boxed while for PotP they are carded, its a pretty big difference. Also the Price Points are different, as is the SKU (even though they are both labeled as Generations). I would hope most retailers would know the difference.

To continue our series of 'Leaked from Cybertron' images we now have some of Deluxe Class Swoop. This short slideshow of pictures comes to us from Hasbro's Facebook and Instagram pages. We have imbedded it below so that you can have a look for yourself. Swoop is sporting some nice metallic plastic to match the other Dinobots and carries a red sword. If you are a Dinobot fan you may also want to check out Snarl's 'Leaked from Cybertron' images too.

o.supreme wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:They are both labeled as "Transformers Generations" products and come in boxes with similar visual style and graphic design.

I assume you are referring to how the toys ship from the warehouse, not the packaging of the toys themselves?? -It could be, I don't know, but I do know that while some fans said there was nothing to be worried about with the Studio series taking up shelf space that could otherwise be used for PotP, I can say, this is NOW a legitimate concern of mine. I know this is supposed to be a *Best of the Best* from all 5 movies but...lets be honest, while I never collected any Movie based toys, the lines for the first 3 films seemingly sold fairly well, the last 2 however (AoE & TLK), were way overproduced and shelf warmed to near disgusting levels. Heck there are still some TLK toys clogging shelves of Targets, the only reason walmart got them out is because they clearance them out at up to 70% off. Hasbro should have taken a break with the movie line, I mean BB toys will probably start showing up around October. We could have enjoyed PotP until then. Of course I expect to see RiD15 toys on clearance next because those fugly Cyberverse toys I know are coming .

Studio series arrived way quicker, and in much greater quantities than I expected, and funny enough, they aren't moving.

The previous films also sold terribly. They are notorious for still having stck from a previous movie line when the new movie rolls out, which did not happen with AOE and TLK.

Here are a few shelfwarmers for you





Also, FYI,the Bumblebee movie toys deluxes/voyagers/leaders will be part of the studio series line so there wont be an issue for shelfspace (if there is one).

william-james88 wrote:Also, FYI,the Bumblebee movie toys deluxes/voyagers/leaders will be part of the studio series line so there wont be an issue for shelfspace (if there is one).

Good to know the BB toys wont be another separate line. Also, we both agree Movie toys sold terribly, and were overproduced. The only difference is that there were 3 years between AoE and TLK, and there were only 2 years between the previous films, so obviously there was more spillover. Also I think more affirmative clearance was done by the last 2 movie lines to try to get them out of the stores, but like I said, TLK toys are still around. Also the other movie lines had additional assortments even after the movie was long gone, not so for AoE & TLK, those toys were bad enough, didn't need more of them.

I noticed that too. Most Studio series figures I saw at one time was 4 and wasn't even the full set. Of course I bought one though

WreckerJack wrote:I noticed that too. Most Studio series figures I saw at one time was 4 and wasn't even the full set. Of course I bought one though

2 weeks ago I walked into a walmart where I do my grocery shopping. They had a case fresh set of deluxes (8) Studio series. Yesterday I walked into the same walmart, after 2 weeks, the only difference was that some of the packaging had been beat up (especially one of the Bumblebees), but none of the 8 deluxes had been purchased. Oh and they got in SS Voyagers, that was new.

The price point they sell them for is irrelevant if they don't have any of them on the shelves. Around here, there's little to nothing of PotP's except those stores that got another wave 1 shipment. It's like the line has been abandoned in favor of those ugly-@ss Baybots that no one buys.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Thanks to a heads up from Seibertronian Reluctantyouth, we have news that the Power of the Primes voyagers have apparently gone on sale!

Upon first seeing this news, I thought I'd buy Starscream and skip Grimlock, but watching a couple of review videos last night made me flip-flop- Starscream looks not-bad in bot mode, but jet mode is just weak. Grimlock looks good in dino mode, and great in bot mode. Going to grab him, and if it's at $10, better.

Funny thing is, I haven't seen a single wave 1 voyager in a Walmart in over 3 months. I saw Elita and Hun Gurr once each back in February, but they are the last PotP voyagers I have seen in store.

And I've only seen a single SS Crowbar too. A lot of the stores around me have surplus Dreadwinds, legends, and Prime masters, but the voyagers have gone quickly and the leaders are nonexistent, for either line.

Dear Lord, someone's unpopular



Also Holy Shit, this means my TRU stocked that first wave to kingdom come. We always knew the dinobots would sell regardless, but who knew Jazz was that popular

That is Dreadwind. I don't see a single Jazz in that pic. (Unless you have yet to post it.)

WreckerJack wrote:That is Dreadwind. I don't see a single Jazz in that pic. (Unless you have yet to post it.)

By "popular", he means that Jazz and the Dinobots were all bought but not Dreadwind.


And, yeah, Dreadwind wasn't a cartoon character, Will, so it makes sense that he gets left behind.

william-james88 wrote:Dear Lord, someone's unpopular



Also Holy ****, this means my TRU stocked that first wave to kingdom come. We always knew the dinobots would sell regardless, but who knew Jazz was that popular

Yeah I kind of had the same experience with Dreadwind. I saw a whole 4 of him at one store one time! (The most I've ever seen). He's definitely a shelf warmer (not saying you are wrong wj, just again pointing out the disparity between in stock PotP in Canada vs U.S. For me, seeing 4 of anything (other than Prime Masters) is almost unheard of thus far.

WreckerJack wrote:That is Dreadwind. I don't see a single Jazz in that pic. (Unless you have yet to post it.)

Yeah, thats wht I mean, he isnt there proving that he must be popular. And assuming some Dreadwinds sols (I know i bought one from that place), then it must mean there were a ton of cases and all those Jazzes sold super well.

And Sabre, this brings about a good point. I always supported the idea that Hasbro made toys primarily for kids and that the older fans were but a subset of the market. If the reason for Dreadwind not selling is because he was not in a 30 year old show, then that means that this show is a determining factor and not just the toys themselves, and yet I am assuming little kids havent watched G1 enough to know who Jazz is. So these toys must be bought mainly by fans. Is that wrong to assume? Or maybe its just because cars are cooler than planes or the MAGA thing made him more collectable (like the time suddenly everybody ws walking into a comic shop because there was a cover of Obama and Spider-man).

o.supreme wrote:Well I could see that perhaps with the Voyagers. But the Deluxes for SS are boxed while for PotP they are carded, its a pretty big difference. Also the Price Points are different, as is the SKU (even though they are both labeled as Generations). I would hope most retailers would know the difference.

And yet, I went to a Target a few days ago to find them completely out of PotP deluxes, but the pegs for the PotP deluxes were filled with SS deluxes. If they are filling an empty peg, it doesn't even matter if they look similar or not, the general name would be enough to confuse an employee that is not a TF expert like most of us collectors are.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Well I could see that perhaps with the Voyagers. But the Deluxes for SS are boxed while for PotP they are carded, its a pretty big difference. Also the Price Points are different, as is the SKU (even though they are both labeled as Generations). I would hope most retailers would know the difference.

And yet, I went to a Target a few days ago to find them completely out of PotP deluxes, but the pegs for the PotP deluxes were filled with SS deluxes. If they are filling an empty peg, it doesn't even matter if they look similar or not, the general name would be enough to confuse an employee that is not a TF expert like most of us collectors are.

ok I'm confused now. Do the Studio Series deluxe Boxes even have plastic peg holders (like TLK packaging?), every Walmart I've been to, they just put the box on a shelf, not hanging them on pegs....I guess I didn't pay enough attention to the packaging since they really don't interest me. If they do that's even worse. Stores are going to be clogged with these things and PotP will get choked out.

o.supreme wrote:ok I'm confused now. Do the Studio Series deluxe Boxes even have plastic peg holders (like TLK packaging?), every Walmart I've been to, they just put the box on a shelf, not hanging them on pegs....I guess I didn't pay enough attention to the packaging since they really don't interest me. If they do that's even worse. Stores are going to be clogged with these things and PotP will get choked out.

Yes, the Studio Series deluxe class figures have plastic peg holders.

^ Thanks. So...I guess this is a case of which is worse...Putting them on the wrong (PotP) pegs, or not using pegs at all and just placing them on a shelf....

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Dear Lord, someone's unpopular



Also Holy ****, this means my TRU stocked that first wave to kingdom come. We always knew the dinobots would sell regardless, but who knew Jazz was that popular

Yeah I kind of had the same experience with Dreadwind. I saw a whole 4 of him at one store one time! (The most I've ever seen). He's definitely a shelf warmer (not saying you are wrong wj, just again pointing out the disparity between in stock PotP in Canada vs U.S. For me, seeing 4 of anything (other than Prime Masters) is almost unheard of thus far.

After work I checked my local Wal-Mart and TRU: nothing but Wave 1 restock and Studio Series.

Don't forget, Jazz is a movie character, was in WFC/FOC, and was in RiD, so his name has gotten plenty of exposure over the past few years, unlike Dreadwind, with Prime Dreadwing being the closest he's gotten since his Universe toy I believe (or was that Darkwing?)

It's a shame Dreadwind isn't popular because his toy is pretty great in spite of him being a cousin of the CW Aerialbots.

They should have included him in a comic or something at the very least.

WreckerJack wrote:They should have included him in a comic or something at the very least.

He's been in the Marvel G1 comics, the BotCon Classics comics, Regeneration One, parts of IDW G1, and a few minor things.

In fact, he was the longest-running host of the Marvel UK letters pages, from issues 184 to 299, a whopping 116 issues, with Grimlock being second only to him, having hosted the letters pages from 75 to 182 (108 issues). During his tenure of "Dread Tidings", Dreadwind would refer to humans as "humes", made the first indirect reference in the West to Super-God Masterforce airing in Malaysia, and even starred in his own Christmas text story that was a parody of A Christmas Carol.

Sabrblade wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:They should have included him in a comic or something at the very least.

He's been in the Marvel G1 comics, the BotCon Classics comics, Regeneration One, parts of IDW G1, and a few minor things.

In fact, he was the longest-running host of the Marvel UK letters pages, from issues 184 to 299, a whopping 116 issues, with Grimlock being second only to him, having hosted the letters pages from 75 to 182 (108 issues). During his tenure of "Dread Tidings", Dreadwind would refer to humans as "humes", made the first indirect reference in the West to Super-God Masterforce airing in Malaysia, and even starred in his own Christmas text story that was a parody of A Christmas Carol.

they were fun to watch on masterforce

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:They should have included him in a comic or something at the very least.

He's been in the Marvel G1 comics, the BotCon Classics comics, Regeneration One, parts of IDW G1, and a few minor things.

In fact, he was the longest-running host of the Marvel UK letters pages, from issues 184 to 299, a whopping 116 issues, with Grimlock being second only to him, having hosted the letters pages from 75 to 182 (108 issues). During his tenure of "Dread Tidings", Dreadwind would refer to humans as "humes", made the first indirect reference in the West to Super-God Masterforce airing in Malaysia, and even starred in his own Christmas text story that was a parody of A Christmas Carol.

they were fun to watch on masterforce

That was Buster, not Dreadwind.

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:They should have included him in a comic or something at the very least.

He's been in the Marvel G1 comics, the BotCon Classics comics, Regeneration One, parts of IDW G1, and a few minor things.

In fact, he was the longest-running host of the Marvel UK letters pages, from issues 184 to 299, a whopping 116 issues, with Grimlock being second only to him, having hosted the letters pages from 75 to 182 (108 issues). During his tenure of "Dread Tidings", Dreadwind would refer to humans as "humes", made the first indirect reference in the West to Super-God Masterforce airing in Malaysia, and even starred in his own Christmas text story that was a parody of A Christmas Carol.

they were fun to watch on masterforce

That was Buster, not Dreadwind.

I know I'm just saying that it was fun watching them as those other guys

Got Skullgrin/Liege Maximo today.

As an update to Skullgrin he's kinda lame. As a representation of Liege Maximo he's also pretty weak. But as a little sentient "Matrix of Corruption" entombed within a sarcophagus that can also form a "Hand of Command" he's damn cool. Especially for £6.

Black Hat wrote:Got Skullgrin/Liege Maximo today.

As an update to Skullgrin he's kinda lame. As a representation of Liege Maximo he's also pretty weak. But as a little sentient "Matrix of Corruption" entombed within a sarcophagus that can also form a "Hand of Command" he's damn cool. Especially for £6.

He'd be a much better Liege Maximo if his 'Matrix' was green, obviously, but that's the issue with most Prime Masters: they are closer to the Pretender character than the Prime they represent. For some it works (see: the upcoming Solus) but for most it doesn't.

We've already seen a number of the 'Leaked from Cybertron' mini clips, showing a quick carousel of images for figures from the line - usually schematics, prototypes and the final stock image of the toy - including the whole collection of Dinobots from the first waves: Swoop, Snarl, Sludge, Slash (plus Studio Series Blackout and Grimlock).

But today we bring you the core element of new Dinobot combiner Volcanicus, and the figure doing the crunches: Power of the Primes voyager Grimlock! Check out the three rotating images below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub - have you formed the new gestalt yet? Is there anything else you'd like to see from the line?

Va'al wrote:We've already seen a number of the 'Leaked from Cybertron' mini clips, showing a quick carousel of images for figures from the line - usually schematics, prototypes and the final stock image of the toy - including the whole collection of Dinobots from the first waves: Swoop, Snarl, Sludge, Slash (plus Studio Series Blackout and Grimlock).

But today we bring you the core element of new Dinobot combiner Volcanicus, and the figure doing the crunches: Power of the Primes voyager Grimlock! Check out the three rotating images below, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub - have you formed the new gestalt yet? Is there anything else you'd like to see from the line?

Looking at the concept sketches, and the final version, my first thought is, 'What went wrong?' The forelegs and the toe claws looked SO much better in concept. The final version has those dinky little stubs on the toes, and them gargantuan thighs. I know sacrifices had to be made for a gestalt mode, but it still feels like they phoned it in.

will the retailer stores skip waves like they did last year in favor of bayformer toys? because I have never seen wave 2 of the deluxes of transformers power of the prime toys. last year never saw twin twist, overlord, misfire, etc. I barely saw sixshot and trypticon. distribution shouldn't be this bad but unfortunately it is. i'm wondering if i'll ever see either sludge and snarl on the shelves?

If it hasn't already been discussed, Amazon US has a listing up for Counterpunch: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZBCPDV?tag=seibertron07-20&
While Amazon Canada has a listing for Repugnus: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0785P78QD?tag=seibertron0b-20&

Found a Hun-Gurr and Elita-1 at the local Wal-Mart. Didn't buy either for now but it's good to see they have indeed appeared at retail.

Munkky wrote:If it hasn't already been discussed, Amazon US has a listing up for Counterpunch: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZBCPDV?tag=seibertron07-20&
While Amazon Canada has a listing for Repugnus: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0785P78QD?tag=seibertron0b-20&

Yeah, we've debated just what these figures will actually be earlier this year when they were listed on other stores. They're expected to be part of May Mayhem, but Hasbro is being ridiculously silent on that. I'm still hoping Repugnus is a Titan Return mold to go with the other two Monsterbots, but not everyone is convinced.

Emerje

When does the Mayhem usually start? Been refreshing the listings every day just to see when they go live. I've missed the last couple years and want a jump for this year...