Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision
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That fourth wave of deluxes from the Kingdom line is coming in hot. After being found at Chilean retail, these deluxes are now being shipped from Canadian retailer Toysnowman (the same guys who received Canada's shipment of the exclusive Earthrise Coneheads). Both Shadow Panther and Waspinator can be ordered for $34.99 CAD. This further confirms something that was becoming more and more apparent, the Kingdom wave 4 case assortment has changed from what we reported almost a year ago. Slammer and Pipes are not part of this wave and will come in a later wave. Of course, this does not necessarily mean an extension on the Kingdom line in the temporal sense and could simply be additional waves to ensure that there is enough product on the shelves in the holiday season, something Hasbro was very adamant about. This wave being available at this time also confirms that Hasbro has indeed secured a lot of shipping contracts since it was expected next month at the minimum (it is still not revealed and has no preorders). And if a collectible retailer in Canada is getting stock, it means these have reached North America and are being distributed all over (larger retailers take more time to bring a toy from the ports to the shelves).
The two deluxes accompanying Shadow Panther and Waspinator in this assortment are Tracks and Paleotrex. This is good news since while Tracks is in very high demand, even if the figure is not universally loved. These are also the very first online listings for these toys.
Waspinator: https://toysnowman.com/products/transfo ... waspinator
Shadow Panther: https://toysnowman.com/products/transfo ... ow-panther
The two deluxes accompanying Shadow Panther and Waspinator in this assortment are Tracks and Paleotrex. This is good news since while Tracks is in very high demand, even if the figure is not universally loved. These are also the very first online listings for these toys.
Waspinator: https://toysnowman.com/products/transfo ... waspinator
Shadow Panther: https://toysnowman.com/products/transfo ... ow-panther
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Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115537)
Posted by o.supreme on September 10th, 2021 @ 8:27pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on September 10th, 2021 @ 8:27pm CDT
Well I guess it's a safe bet my pre order for Slammer on amazon shipping October 5 isn't happening 
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115540)
Posted by Autobot_Benz on September 10th, 2021 @ 8:30pm CDT
Posted by Autobot_Benz on September 10th, 2021 @ 8:30pm CDT
Glad Kingdom Wave 4 is slowly coming in. I got money saved on Amazon for Tigatron. With all of hasbro's latest showings of Star Wars and Marvel I got worried it might be pushed to 2022 like the new star wars figures.
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115543)
Posted by sol magnus on September 10th, 2021 @ 8:34pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on September 10th, 2021 @ 8:34pm CDT
Tracks is cool, I don't care what anybody says.
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115544)
Posted by Lore Keeper on September 10th, 2021 @ 8:46pm CDT
Posted by Lore Keeper on September 10th, 2021 @ 8:46pm CDT
Um... you may want to correct the article to reflect that the prices are not CAD. They're USD. I just spent $73 on two deluxes... 
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115545)
Posted by sol magnus on September 10th, 2021 @ 8:46pm CDT
Whooof
Posted by sol magnus on September 10th, 2021 @ 8:46pm CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:Um... you may want to correct the article to reflect that the prices are not CAD. They're USD. I just spent $73 on two deluxes...
Whooof
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115547)
Posted by Lore Keeper on September 10th, 2021 @ 8:52pm CDT
I can't wait to explain this one to the Mrs.
Posted by Lore Keeper on September 10th, 2021 @ 8:52pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Um... you may want to correct the article to reflect that the prices are not CAD. They're USD. I just spent $73 on two deluxes...
Whooof
I can't wait to explain this one to the Mrs.
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115548)
Posted by william-james88 on September 10th, 2021 @ 9:19pm CDT
I just tried placing an order and could order them at 34$ CAD
Posted by william-james88 on September 10th, 2021 @ 9:19pm CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:Um... you may want to correct the article to reflect that the prices are not CAD. They're USD. I just spent $73 on two deluxes...
I just tried placing an order and could order them at 34$ CAD
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115549)
Posted by Lore Keeper on September 10th, 2021 @ 9:33pm CDT
Are you in Canada?
Posted by Lore Keeper on September 10th, 2021 @ 9:33pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Um... you may want to correct the article to reflect that the prices are not CAD. They're USD. I just spent $73 on two deluxes...
I just tried placing an order and could order them at 34$ CAD
Are you in Canada?
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115551)
Posted by william-james88 on September 10th, 2021 @ 9:43pm CDT
Yes
Posted by william-james88 on September 10th, 2021 @ 9:43pm CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Um... you may want to correct the article to reflect that the prices are not CAD. They're USD. I just spent $73 on two deluxes...
I just tried placing an order and could order them at 34$ CAD
Are you in Canada?
Yes
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115553)
Posted by Lore Keeper on September 10th, 2021 @ 9:51pm CDT
That must be it. They converted to USD because I'm in the US. Pretty screwed up that they kept the dollar amount the same. I will definitely not be giving them my business anymore with practices like that.
Posted by Lore Keeper on September 10th, 2021 @ 9:51pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Um... you may want to correct the article to reflect that the prices are not CAD. They're USD. I just spent $73 on two deluxes...
I just tried placing an order and could order them at 34$ CAD
Are you in Canada?
Yes
That must be it. They converted to USD because I'm in the US. Pretty screwed up that they kept the dollar amount the same. I will definitely not be giving them my business anymore with practices like that.
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115555)
Posted by william-james88 on September 10th, 2021 @ 10:02pm CDT
Just say it was misidentified and cancel your order. Write to them, they respond pretty quickly from what I heard.
Posted by william-james88 on September 10th, 2021 @ 10:02pm CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Um... you may want to correct the article to reflect that the prices are not CAD. They're USD. I just spent $73 on two deluxes...
I just tried placing an order and could order them at 34$ CAD
Are you in Canada?
Yes
That must be it. They converted to USD because I'm in the US. Pretty screwed up that they kept the dollar amount the same. I will definitely not be giving them my business anymore with practices like that.
Just say it was misidentified and cancel your order. Write to them, they respond pretty quickly from what I heard.
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115556)
Posted by Lore Keeper on September 10th, 2021 @ 10:03pm CDT
I'm going to opt to keep this order. It's hard to pass up a chance to get these guys so early. I'll just not repeat the mistake again.
Posted by Lore Keeper on September 10th, 2021 @ 10:03pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Um... you may want to correct the article to reflect that the prices are not CAD. They're USD. I just spent $73 on two deluxes...
I just tried placing an order and could order them at 34$ CAD
Are you in Canada?
Yes
That must be it. They converted to USD because I'm in the US. Pretty screwed up that they kept the dollar amount the same. I will definitely not be giving them my business anymore with practices like that.
Just say it was misidentified and cancel your order. Write to them, they respond pretty quickly from what I heard.
I'm going to opt to keep this order. It's hard to pass up a chance to get these guys so early. I'll just not repeat the mistake again.
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115560)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 11th, 2021 @ 12:57am CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on September 11th, 2021 @ 12:57am CDT
Like Draculus, I’ll just wing finding this one instead of preordering (like I have much choice anyway, sold out as of this writing). Thankfully it’s not a dire need, I only want her as a stand-in Shattered Glass Tracks, even though the head’s wrong.
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115566)
Posted by Munkky on September 11th, 2021 @ 3:30am CDT
Posted by Munkky on September 11th, 2021 @ 3:30am CDT
I'm getting more and more worried that wave 4 won't see a UK release until next year, or if it does it'll only be in very limited quantities and difficult to get hold of. Granted, Waspinator and Tigatron are the only two I'm really interested in from this wave, but we still have no word on pre-orders and it's getting close to the end of the year.
On the plus side, I got an e-mail through from Amazon today, Sideswipe and Skywarp are now coming at the end of this month instead of November, so that'll be a nice thing to look forward to. Of course they probably will get pushed back to the original delivery date again between now and then like my past Amazon pre-orders have, but it'll be great if they do come this month.
On the plus side, I got an e-mail through from Amazon today, Sideswipe and Skywarp are now coming at the end of this month instead of November, so that'll be a nice thing to look forward to. Of course they probably will get pushed back to the original delivery date again between now and then like my past Amazon pre-orders have, but it'll be great if they do come this month.
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Posted by Roadbuster on September 11th, 2021 @ 8:51am CDT
Posted by Roadbuster on September 11th, 2021 @ 8:51am CDT
Mine is due to arrive tomorrow. Munkky, you using Prime or just regular?
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115588)
Posted by Munkky on September 11th, 2021 @ 9:16am CDT
Just the regular. Like I say, it'll be great if the set actually does arrive on the new date, but I'm not getting excited until I get a shipping confirmation. I have Airazor and managed to get Red Alert a few weeks ago, so I know more or less what to expect from the set.
Posted by Munkky on September 11th, 2021 @ 9:16am CDT
Roadbuster wrote:Mine is due to arrive tomorrow. Munkky, you using Prime or just regular?
Just the regular. Like I say, it'll be great if the set actually does arrive on the new date, but I'm not getting excited until I get a shipping confirmation. I have Airazor and managed to get Red Alert a few weeks ago, so I know more or less what to expect from the set.
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115590)
Posted by Overcracker on September 11th, 2021 @ 10:38am CDT
Posted by Overcracker on September 11th, 2021 @ 10:38am CDT
Well..., Amazon just moved up my Sideswipe & Skywarp II from November to the end of this month now.
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115591)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 11th, 2021 @ 10:46am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 11th, 2021 @ 10:46am CDT
Now that I finally have Commander Rodimus Prime, I can truly say what I think of it.
First, is it a "true" Commander? Hell yeah. Because having the bot without the trailer and the cannon would make no sense and having everything together make it worth it.
The vehicle, the bot, and the base all look glorious. Plus everything is easy to transform without instructions.
HOWEVAH, there's some serious tolerance flaws. Even though I plug in the cannon on both tabs, the trailer cannot fully close. I'm sure it's not catching on the cannon at all, but on something. Also, the bot arms are difficult to tab evenly in the vehicle mode. Another thing that is a bit annoying is that all that inner storage space is not enough to store everything. So I ended up with a blue pinecone beside the space winnebago. Finally the bot's calves panels don't really tab in and just float.
Are these annoyances deal breakers? Not really. That Roddy is definitely a small MP and was pretty much enjoyable overall. I'm glad that I payed 95$can plus taxes instead of the regular 125$can. This makes the small flaws much more tolerable.
My recommendation for those on the fence to get this guy: wait for a sale.
Only things missing here are both MPs.... Or not.
First, is it a "true" Commander? Hell yeah. Because having the bot without the trailer and the cannon would make no sense and having everything together make it worth it.
The vehicle, the bot, and the base all look glorious. Plus everything is easy to transform without instructions.
HOWEVAH, there's some serious tolerance flaws. Even though I plug in the cannon on both tabs, the trailer cannot fully close. I'm sure it's not catching on the cannon at all, but on something. Also, the bot arms are difficult to tab evenly in the vehicle mode. Another thing that is a bit annoying is that all that inner storage space is not enough to store everything. So I ended up with a blue pinecone beside the space winnebago. Finally the bot's calves panels don't really tab in and just float.
Are these annoyances deal breakers? Not really. That Roddy is definitely a small MP and was pretty much enjoyable overall. I'm glad that I payed 95$can plus taxes instead of the regular 125$can. This makes the small flaws much more tolerable.
My recommendation for those on the fence to get this guy: wait for a sale.
Only things missing here are both MPs.... Or not.
Re: Kingdom Wave 4 Deluxes now Shipping from Canadian Retailer and Confirm Wave Revision (2115593)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 11th, 2021 @ 10:56am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 11th, 2021 @ 10:56am CDT
I just got an email saying mine bumped up so much that it shipped.Overcracker wrote:Well..., Amazon just moved up my Sideswipe & Skywarp II from November to the end of this month now.
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Posted by Overcracker on September 11th, 2021 @ 11:08am CDT
That's great!.
Mine just cleared customs so should be here next week hopefully. Can't wait. Though seeing the length of trailer, makes me realize my shelf is not deep enough for that. Will probably have to put the trailer side ways.
No love for Alternators Hot Rodimus?
I've Been trying to get him and the G1 figures for a decent price. not much luck when shipping ends up being more than the figure itself.
Posted by Overcracker on September 11th, 2021 @ 11:08am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I just got an email saying mine bumped up so much that it shipped.Overcracker wrote:Well..., Amazon just moved up my Sideswipe & Skywarp II from November to the end of this month now.
That's great!. -Kanrabat- wrote:Now that I finally have Commander Rodimus Prime, I can truly say what I think of it.
First, is it a "true" Commander? Hell yeah. Because having the bot without the trailer and the cannon would make no sense and having everything together make it worth it.
The vehicle, the bot, and the base all look glorious. Plus everything is easy to transform without instructions.
HOWEVAH, there's some serious tolerance flaws. Even though I plug in the cannon on both tabs, the trailer cannot fully close. I'm sure it's not catching on the cannon at all, but on something. Also, the bot arms are difficult to tab evenly in the vehicle mode. Another thing that is a bit annoying is that all that inner storage space is not enough to store everything. So I ended up with a blue pinecone beside the space winnebago. Finally the bot's calves panels don't really tab in and just float.
Are these annoyances deal breakers? Not really. That Roddy is definitely a small MP and was pretty much enjoyable overall. I'm glad that I payed 95$can plus taxes instead of the regular 125$can. This makes the small flaws much more tolerable.
My recommendation for those on the fence to get this guy: wait for a sale.
Mine just cleared customs so should be here next week hopefully. Can't wait. Though seeing the length of trailer, makes me realize my shelf is not deep enough for that. Will probably have to put the trailer side ways.
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Only things missing here are both MPs.... Or not.
No love for Alternators Hot Rodimus?
I've Been trying to get him and the G1 figures for a decent price. not much luck when shipping ends up being more than the figure itself.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 11th, 2021 @ 11:13am CDT
Oh, plenty of love! He's one of the better Alternators in my collection. But that display are for the "true" Hotrods/Rodimusses with similar altmodes. The huge yellow spoiler and blue windshield being key constants. So the realistic altmode of the Alternator and the lack of the spoiler wings in bot mode make him not being part of that display.
Only Hotrod missing may be a Cyberverse one. I'll have to get the best one if he's in the right colors.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 11th, 2021 @ 11:13am CDT
Overcracker wrote:No love for Alternators Hot Rodimus?
I've Been trying to get him and the G1 figures for a decent price. not much luck when shipping ends up being more than the figure itself.
Oh, plenty of love! He's one of the better Alternators in my collection. But that display are for the "true" Hotrods/Rodimusses with similar altmodes. The huge yellow spoiler and blue windshield being key constants. So the realistic altmode of the Alternator and the lack of the spoiler wings in bot mode make him not being part of that display.
Only Hotrod missing may be a Cyberverse one. I'll have to get the best one if he's in the right colors.
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Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 11th, 2021 @ 12:00pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 11th, 2021 @ 12:00pm CDT
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Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 11th, 2021 @ 12:10pm CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 11th, 2021 @ 12:10pm CDT
Are Puffer and Ranger supposed to come together? I can keep track of all the leaks these days
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Posted by Till-all-R1 on September 11th, 2021 @ 1:03pm CDT
My only thought was that Prime also came with his trailer yet at Leader Class price point, so this is the aspect that hangs me up over Rodimus being worth $90 versus Prime at $52.
I appreciate the insight into the bot's mechanics and the observations of said flaws, I don't expect perfection but at $90 I would have like a better final product. Unfortunately I'm not in a position to walk in on a sale for just about anything anymore, almost nothing hits retail around me. lol
Posted by Till-all-R1 on September 11th, 2021 @ 1:03pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Now that I finally have Commander Rodimus Prime, I can truly say what I think of it.
First, is it a "true" Commander? Hell yeah. Because having the bot without the trailer and the cannon would make no sense and having everything together make it worth it.
The vehicle, the bot, and the base all look glorious. Plus everything is easy to transform without instructions.
HOWEVAH, there's some serious tolerance flaws. Even though I plug in the cannon on both tabs, the trailer cannot fully close. I'm sure it's not catching on the cannon at all, but on something. Also, the bot arms are difficult to tab evenly in the vehicle mode. Another thing that is a bit annoying is that all that inner storage space is not enough to store everything. So I ended up with a blue pinecone beside the space winnebago. Finally the bot's calves panels don't really tab in and just float.
Are these annoyances deal breakers? Not really. That Roddy is definitely a small MP and was pretty much enjoyable overall. I'm glad that I payed 95$can plus taxes instead of the regular 125$can. This makes the small flaws much more tolerable.
My only thought was that Prime also came with his trailer yet at Leader Class price point, so this is the aspect that hangs me up over Rodimus being worth $90 versus Prime at $52.
I appreciate the insight into the bot's mechanics and the observations of said flaws, I don't expect perfection but at $90 I would have like a better final product. Unfortunately I'm not in a position to walk in on a sale for just about anything anymore, almost nothing hits retail around me. lol
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Posted by Sowndwave76 on September 11th, 2021 @ 1:21pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on September 11th, 2021 @ 1:21pm CDT
Yeah, my Sideswipe/Skywarp went from a delivery date of early November to 2 weeks from now.
I think I'm in for Puffer... Not sure about Ranger. Kinda funny to me that his colors have him looking more Decepticon-ish imo.
I think I'm in for Puffer... Not sure about Ranger. Kinda funny to me that his colors have him looking more Decepticon-ish imo.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 11th, 2021 @ 1:26pm CDT
You cannot compare Optimus Prime trailer with Rodimus Prime's trailer. Optimus's is barely a margarine container with nest to no parts. Rodimus's is huge, with hinges, big cannon, storage spaces, pistons, and whatnots.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 11th, 2021 @ 1:26pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:My only thought was that Prime also came with his trailer yet at Leader Class price point, so this is the aspect that hangs me up over Rodimus being worth $90 versus Prime at $52.
You cannot compare Optimus Prime trailer with Rodimus Prime's trailer. Optimus's is barely a margarine container with nest to no parts. Rodimus's is huge, with hinges, big cannon, storage spaces, pistons, and whatnots.
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Posted by Nemesis Primal on September 11th, 2021 @ 1:29pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Primal on September 11th, 2021 @ 1:29pm CDT
Yay Road Ranger! This set is a definite buy for me, although considering we now have to wait for Wave 4 AND 5 to get revealed before Hasbro will be willing to show a Pipes repaint/retool, I'm concerned we're gonna have to wait a while before this gets put up for order.Razorbeast88 wrote:
Puffer and Road Ranger were initially leaked/listed as a 2-pack, yes.Sentinel_Primal wrote:Are Puffer and Ranger supposed to come together? I can keep track of all the leaks these days
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Posted by blackeyedprime on September 11th, 2021 @ 1:29pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 11th, 2021 @ 1:29pm CDT
Interesting on Puffer and Ranger, might be tempted to skip pipes completely though the Ranger is making me sad that I dont have runabout yet.
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Posted by o.supreme on September 11th, 2021 @ 1:53pm CDT
Agreed. RP does come with a LOT of bells and whistles on the trailer. I understand why a lot of people enjoy it. For me though, is wasn't necessary. They could have done a simpler trailer at the Leader price point, and I would have been just as satisfied.
I forget... Kanrabat...are you the one with the scale? I'd like to compare the weight of all 3 CC so far. Everyone refers to the Rodimus portion as "beefy", "solid" etc... While it certainly does hold together well, and the engineering is impressive, I don't think it has any more heft than most other comparable Transformers.
Posted by o.supreme on September 11th, 2021 @ 1:53pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Till-all-R1 wrote:My only thought was that Prime also came with his trailer yet at Leader Class price point, so this is the aspect that hangs me up over Rodimus being worth $90 versus Prime at $52.
You cannot compare Optimus Prime trailer with Rodimus Prime's trailer. Optimus's is barely a margarine container with nest to no parts. Rodimus's is huge, with hinges, big cannon, storage spaces, pistons, and whatnots.
Agreed. RP does come with a LOT of bells and whistles on the trailer. I understand why a lot of people enjoy it. For me though, is wasn't necessary. They could have done a simpler trailer at the Leader price point, and I would have been just as satisfied.
I forget... Kanrabat...are you the one with the scale? I'd like to compare the weight of all 3 CC so far. Everyone refers to the Rodimus portion as "beefy", "solid" etc... While it certainly does hold together well, and the engineering is impressive, I don't think it has any more heft than most other comparable Transformers.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 11th, 2021 @ 2:26pm CDT
I'm sure I'm not the only one with a food scale out there, but it might be fun.
So, all toys with ALL their accessories amount to:
Siege Commander Jetfire is a beefy boy at 0.773kg:
Earthrise Commander Skylinx is a bit more massive at 0.811kg:
Kingdom Commander Rodimus Prime is a lightweight at 0.618kg:
So in the end, it's all down to parts count, not just weight. A "proof" would be to compare Omega Supreme VS SS Devastator. Both are "Titans". SS69 Devastator cost double of what Omega Supreme cost. But when comparing the weight:
Omega Supreme, 2.514kg:
SS Devastator WITH the DNA Design upgrade kit, 1.871kg:
So yeah, mass alone is not the only factor in what the toy cost for sure.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 11th, 2021 @ 2:26pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I forget... Kanrabat...are you the one with the scale? I'd like to compare the weight of all 3 CC so far. Everyone refers to the Rodimus portion as "beefy", "solid" etc... While it certainly does hold together well, and the engineering is impressive, I don't think it has any more heft than most other comparable Transformers.
I'm sure I'm not the only one with a food scale out there, but it might be fun.
So, all toys with ALL their accessories amount to:
Siege Commander Jetfire is a beefy boy at 0.773kg:
Earthrise Commander Skylinx is a bit more massive at 0.811kg:
Kingdom Commander Rodimus Prime is a lightweight at 0.618kg:
So in the end, it's all down to parts count, not just weight. A "proof" would be to compare Omega Supreme VS SS Devastator. Both are "Titans". SS69 Devastator cost double of what Omega Supreme cost. But when comparing the weight:
Omega Supreme, 2.514kg:
SS Devastator WITH the DNA Design upgrade kit, 1.871kg:
So yeah, mass alone is not the only factor in what the toy cost for sure.
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Posted by Sabrblade on September 11th, 2021 @ 2:34pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 11th, 2021 @ 2:34pm CDT
Devastator's more of a Supreme than a Titan. Armada Unicron's taller than him, even.
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Posted by Munkky on September 11th, 2021 @ 2:47pm CDT
Why in the 25 years I've been a Transformers collector have I never thought of doing this?
Posted by Munkky on September 11th, 2021 @ 2:47pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:o.supreme wrote:I forget... Kanrabat...are you the one with the scale? I'd like to compare the weight of all 3 CC so far. Everyone refers to the Rodimus portion as "beefy", "solid" etc... While it certainly does hold together well, and the engineering is impressive, I don't think it has any more heft than most other comparable Transformers.
I'm sure I'm not the only one with a food scale out there, but it might be fun.
So, all toys with ALL their accessories amount to:
Siege Commander Jetfire is a beefy boy at 0.773kg:
Earthrise Commander Skylinx is a bit more massive at 0.811kg:
Kingdom Commander Rodimus Prime is a lightweight at 0.618kg:
So in the end, it's all down to parts count, not just weight. A "proof" would be to compare Omega Supreme VS SS Devastator. Both are "Titans". SS69 Devastator cost double of what Omega Supreme cost. But when comparing the weight:
Omega Supreme, 2.514kg:
SS Devastator WITH the DNA Design upgrade kit, 1.871kg:
So yeah, mass alone is not the only factor in what the toy cost for sure.
Why in the 25 years I've been a Transformers collector have I never thought of doing this?
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Posted by o.supreme on September 11th, 2021 @ 3:47pm CDT
Thank you so much. Agreed in all accounts. I feel like it is a weird win for everyone however.
I think CC Rodimus is especially well done despite my own personal feeling that it's not worth $80, and I can feel justified in my opinion. However, for those who believe the CC label and price point is valid, that point stands as well.
About SS69. A premium is being paid for the slightly different deco and packaging. This is rare case because all the individual SS constructions combined only costs about 60% more than Siege OS.
Normally the purpose of packaging a set of toys together is to get a better value. It was that way with the original combiners giftsets, even with the ones in CW and TR. The box sets were slightly less than purchasing all of the same size class toys separately, unless you imported the TT versions of course would be more expensive.
When I first saw the price of SS69, it boggled my mind. Who in their right mind would by it, when the deco isn't that great, and the individuals are noticably less expensive.
Posted by o.supreme on September 11th, 2021 @ 3:47pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
I'm sure I'm not the only one with a food scale out there, but it might be fun...
So yeah, mass alone is not the only factor in what the toy cost for sure.
Thank you so much. Agreed in all accounts. I feel like it is a weird win for everyone however.
I think CC Rodimus is especially well done despite my own personal feeling that it's not worth $80, and I can feel justified in my opinion. However, for those who believe the CC label and price point is valid, that point stands as well.
About SS69. A premium is being paid for the slightly different deco and packaging. This is rare case because all the individual SS constructions combined only costs about 60% more than Siege OS.
Normally the purpose of packaging a set of toys together is to get a better value. It was that way with the original combiners giftsets, even with the ones in CW and TR. The box sets were slightly less than purchasing all of the same size class toys separately, unless you imported the TT versions of course would be more expensive.
When I first saw the price of SS69, it boggled my mind. Who in their right mind would by it, when the deco isn't that great, and the individuals are noticably less expensive.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on September 11th, 2021 @ 6:11pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 11th, 2021 @ 6:11pm CDT
The point for ss69 I believe was to make it easier for those to attain devy who (for what ever reason), missed out on his components. Also several people were probably just waiting on a boxset to come along for ease of hunting.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 11th, 2021 @ 6:56pm CDT
That point is wasn't the point being discussed. The topic was basically how many grams of Transformers you get for the price paid.
A pointless point, but a fun point for sure.
Speaking of your point, that was my logic behind getting SS69. Me not trusting local distribution at all.
Now I see why Zero responded with this.
Well, I dunno about the American side, but on the Canadian side, it was a much better value than getting the individual figures. Even when importing from BBTS! Especially if you miss out on one or two and you have no choices but to get them on Ebay and such.
The only way to truly make the individual figures cheaper was to be lucky on distribution and sales hunting locally. A feat hard to achieve especially over 2 or 3 years.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 11th, 2021 @ 6:56pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:The point for ss69 I believe was to make it easier for those to attain devy who (for what ever reason), missed out on his components. Also several people were probably just waiting on a boxset to come along for ease of hunting.
That point is wasn't the point being discussed. The topic was basically how many grams of Transformers you get for the price paid.
A pointless point, but a fun point for sure.
Speaking of your point, that was my logic behind getting SS69. Me not trusting local distribution at all.
o.supreme wrote:When I first saw the price of SS69, it boggled my mind. Who in their right mind would by it, when the deco isn't that great, and the individuals are noticably less expensive.
Now I see why Zero responded with this.
Well, I dunno about the American side, but on the Canadian side, it was a much better value than getting the individual figures. Even when importing from BBTS! Especially if you miss out on one or two and you have no choices but to get them on Ebay and such.
The only way to truly make the individual figures cheaper was to be lucky on distribution and sales hunting locally. A feat hard to achieve especially over 2 or 3 years.
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Posted by Till-all-R1 on September 12th, 2021 @ 11:31am CDT
I guess it really boils down to what a person is after, as someone who's only looking for display purposes and not immersive interaction or shall we say "play feature" in the trailer, that aspect really doesn't go far with me. So I guess maybe I should have just waited for a Voyager version that's just him or Leader release with a more basic trailer.
Don't get me wrong it's certainly a cool figure and great that they went that far for those who enjoy that type of thing.
Posted by Till-all-R1 on September 12th, 2021 @ 11:31am CDT
o.supreme wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Till-all-R1 wrote:My only thought was that Prime also came with his trailer yet at Leader Class price point, so this is the aspect that hangs me up over Rodimus being worth $90 versus Prime at $52.
You cannot compare Optimus Prime trailer with Rodimus Prime's trailer. Optimus's is barely a margarine container with nest to no parts. Rodimus's is huge, with hinges, big cannon, storage spaces, pistons, and whatnots.
Agreed. RP does come with a LOT of bells and whistles on the trailer. I understand why a lot of people enjoy it. For me though, is wasn't necessary. They could have done a simpler trailer at the Leader price point, and I would have been just as satisfied.
I forget... Kanrabat...are you the one with the scale? I'd like to compare the weight of all 3 CC so far. Everyone refers to the Rodimus portion as "beefy", "solid" etc... While it certainly does hold together well, and the engineering is impressive, I don't think it has any more heft than most other comparable Transformers.
I guess it really boils down to what a person is after, as someone who's only looking for display purposes and not immersive interaction or shall we say "play feature" in the trailer, that aspect really doesn't go far with me. So I guess maybe I should have just waited for a Voyager version that's just him or Leader release with a more basic trailer.
Don't get me wrong it's certainly a cool figure and great that they went that far for those who enjoy that type of thing.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 12th, 2021 @ 11:41am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 12th, 2021 @ 11:41am CDT
A more "Basic" trailer would have never worked for Rodimus Prime. Especially that Hotrod is already a voyager, just adding a cheap trailer to SS86 Hot Rod would have been so cheap and useless.
Personally, I don't think Commander Rodimus Prime is worth the full Commander price, but he's worth more than leader price. So if you can get him on sale (like I did) it's the "correct" price.
Speaking of the trailer, all these 5mm ports are just overkill and it make the inside of the trailer look like it's textured for some... other purpose.
Personally, I don't think Commander Rodimus Prime is worth the full Commander price, but he's worth more than leader price. So if you can get him on sale (like I did) it's the "correct" price.
Speaking of the trailer, all these 5mm ports are just overkill and it make the inside of the trailer look like it's textured for some... other purpose.
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Posted by Roadbuster on September 12th, 2021 @ 3:20pm CDT
Posted by Roadbuster on September 12th, 2021 @ 3:20pm CDT
My Kingdom sideswipe and Maximal Skywarp just arrived via Amazon a short while ago.
On Packaging: I know people have had issues with them just sending the box straight through with last years exclusives. I can confirm that more care was taken this time. The package was an Amazon box with bubble filler and a Hasbro box inside. Inside the Hasbro box is the main box containing the two figures.
The figures: long story short, if you have Siege Sideswipe and Kingdom Airrazor, you know what to expect. Sideswipe is identical save parts to make the Lamborghini alt mode and comes with the cartoon-accurate missile launcher for the right shoulder. Otherwise, it's a cleaner bot mode.
Skywarp: different color scheme and different head.
On Packaging: I know people have had issues with them just sending the box straight through with last years exclusives. I can confirm that more care was taken this time. The package was an Amazon box with bubble filler and a Hasbro box inside. Inside the Hasbro box is the main box containing the two figures.
The figures: long story short, if you have Siege Sideswipe and Kingdom Airrazor, you know what to expect. Sideswipe is identical save parts to make the Lamborghini alt mode and comes with the cartoon-accurate missile launcher for the right shoulder. Otherwise, it's a cleaner bot mode.
Skywarp: different color scheme and different head.
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Posted by Dr. Caelus on September 12th, 2021 @ 4:27pm CDT
Posted by Dr. Caelus on September 12th, 2021 @ 4:27pm CDT
So, Pulse finally sent me Galvatron yezterday, which is good, since I've never seen him in a store, but...
(1) His shoulders are still misassembled!
(2) Folding his head in during transformation feels like it's going to break the figure, and produces a loud pop. Oddly, the problem only goes one direction. Transformation to bot mode is perfectly smooth.
(1) His shoulders are still misassembled!
(2) Folding his head in during transformation feels like it's going to break the figure, and produces a loud pop. Oddly, the problem only goes one direction. Transformation to bot mode is perfectly smooth.
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Posted by Nemesis Destron on September 12th, 2021 @ 4:50pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Destron on September 12th, 2021 @ 4:50pm CDT
I was very surprised to see many eBay seller's parting ways with their trailers for Rodimus. 
I got it in me now to keep any piece I don't care for from any figure I get and just put it away for the simple reason of "what if" and not just chuck it out like I use to.
I guess those selling the trailer parts are happy with the core figure and have zero intent for use/display with the trailer.
I got it in me now to keep any piece I don't care for from any figure I get and just put it away for the simple reason of "what if" and not just chuck it out like I use to.
I guess those selling the trailer parts are happy with the core figure and have zero intent for use/display with the trailer.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on September 12th, 2021 @ 4:52pm CDT
A better question would be, who's buying all those trailers...
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 12th, 2021 @ 4:52pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:I was very surprised to see many eBay seller's parting ways with their trailers for Rodimus.
I got it in me now to keep any piece I don't care for from any figure I get and just put it away for the simple reason of "what if" and not just chuck it out like I use to.
I guess those selling the trailer parts are happy with the core figure and have zero intent for use/display with the trailer.
A better question would be, who's buying all those trailers...
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 12th, 2021 @ 5:09pm CDT
What for what use?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 12th, 2021 @ 5:09pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:I was very surprised to see many eBay seller's parting ways with their trailers for Rodimus.
I got it in me now to keep any piece I don't care for from any figure I get and just put it away for the simple reason of "what if" and not just chuck it out like I use to.
I guess those selling the trailer parts are happy with the core figure and have zero intent for use/display with the trailer.
A better question would be, who's buying all those trailers...
What for what use?
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Posted by Till-all-R1 on September 12th, 2021 @ 7:38pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on September 12th, 2021 @ 7:38pm CDT
I don't really see much use in just a trailer unless you simply want a cannon for some other figure display.
Got all excited just now getting home and seeing an Amazon box on my doorstep, only to find out that it wasn't Sideswipe but Rescue Armor Potts 2pk! lol
Roadbuster wrote:My Kingdom sideswipe and Maximal Skywarp just arrived via Amazon a short while ago.
Got all excited just now getting home and seeing an Amazon box on my doorstep, only to find out that it wasn't Sideswipe but Rescue Armor Potts 2pk! lol
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Posted by Spider5800 on September 13th, 2021 @ 9:00am CDT
Posted by Spider5800 on September 13th, 2021 @ 9:00am CDT
My preorder for Kingdom Scorponok arrived today. Was really excited for it, but I have to admit, this was the first big whiff for me of the Beast Wars characters in the Kingdom line.
Good stuff out of the way first: It looks very good. The bot mode is very accurate to his show appearance, although a little stocky, and the scorpion mode is going for a more realistic (and creepy) look, par for the course for this line so far. The transformation is actually very unique (love the way the legs both become part of the tail), and the included weapons look good in the claws.
But a couple of issues popped up pretty early on mine. First off, its a little small. Scorponok wasn't the biggest character on BW, so not a huge issue, but he's shorter than Kingdom Blackarachnia, so its somewhat noticeable.
The bigger issue though, is all the red parts are absurdly loose. These are the ball jointed legs and the stinger on the tail, and they pop off CONSTANTLY. The legs can barely be twisted before falling off, and the stinger...that thing just fell off in the box. I posed it in robot mode with my other Predacons and am worried it's just going fall off the shelf and get lost somewhere. I'm not even sure floor polish will help, it's WAY too loose.
As I mentioned, this was the first BW character from this line that has disappointed me, the rest have been anywhere from good to great, so not sure what happened with this guy.
Good stuff out of the way first: It looks very good. The bot mode is very accurate to his show appearance, although a little stocky, and the scorpion mode is going for a more realistic (and creepy) look, par for the course for this line so far. The transformation is actually very unique (love the way the legs both become part of the tail), and the included weapons look good in the claws.
But a couple of issues popped up pretty early on mine. First off, its a little small. Scorponok wasn't the biggest character on BW, so not a huge issue, but he's shorter than Kingdom Blackarachnia, so its somewhat noticeable.
The bigger issue though, is all the red parts are absurdly loose. These are the ball jointed legs and the stinger on the tail, and they pop off CONSTANTLY. The legs can barely be twisted before falling off, and the stinger...that thing just fell off in the box. I posed it in robot mode with my other Predacons and am worried it's just going fall off the shelf and get lost somewhere. I'm not even sure floor polish will help, it's WAY too loose.
As I mentioned, this was the first BW character from this line that has disappointed me, the rest have been anywhere from good to great, so not sure what happened with this guy.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 13th, 2021 @ 8:55pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 13th, 2021 @ 8:55pm CDT
Got my Kingdom Ark so here's my TlDr review:
The ship is nice but it need side-panels.
Transformation is clickity-clackity with satisfying ratchets but those two panels at the bottom of the ship are annoying for popping off all the time.
The bot is huge and impressive despite some hollow spaces.
Teletran-1 is pretty nice in computer mode but the bot is meh.
The fire effects and the microtimus will stay in the box. I can't use them anywhere and the spaceship will stand on it's rear-end when I display it so no fire.
Overall, not worth the normal 250$CAN plus taxes, but well worth the 188$CAN total I paid after the sale and promo gift card.
The ship is nice but it need side-panels.
Transformation is clickity-clackity with satisfying ratchets but those two panels at the bottom of the ship are annoying for popping off all the time.
The bot is huge and impressive despite some hollow spaces.
Teletran-1 is pretty nice in computer mode but the bot is meh.
The fire effects and the microtimus will stay in the box. I can't use them anywhere and the spaceship will stand on it's rear-end when I display it so no fire.
Overall, not worth the normal 250$CAN plus taxes, but well worth the 188$CAN total I paid after the sale and promo gift card.
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Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 14th, 2021 @ 10:01am CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 14th, 2021 @ 10:01am CDT
Chefatron put up reviews for Puffer and Road Ranger
yEw mEaN tHiEfATrOn? yeW meAn chEFatHiEF?
sToLeN iTs sToLeN I kAnT bEliEvE wE'rE prOmOtiNG tHieVeRY
Anyways here are the links
https://youtu.be/u6v0p8dCnUA
https://youtu.be/6loq7vWxLJE
yEw mEaN tHiEfATrOn? yeW meAn chEFatHiEF?
sToLeN iTs sToLeN I kAnT bEliEvE wE'rE prOmOtiNG tHieVeRY
Anyways here are the links
https://youtu.be/u6v0p8dCnUA
https://youtu.be/6loq7vWxLJE
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Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 14th, 2021 @ 10:07am CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 14th, 2021 @ 10:07am CDT
So since we have Huffer and Puffer, when are we gonna get a BlowYourHouseDowner?
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Posted by AcademyofDrX on September 14th, 2021 @ 10:24am CDT
Posted by AcademyofDrX on September 14th, 2021 @ 10:24am CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:So since we have Huffer and Puffer, when are we gonna get a BlowYourHouseDowner?
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Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 14th, 2021 @ 10:32am CDT
In a 2 pack with NotByTheHairOfMyChinnyChinChinner
Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 14th, 2021 @ 10:32am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:So since we have Huffer and Puffer, when are we gonna get a BlowYourHouseDowner?
In a 2 pack with NotByTheHairOfMyChinnyChinChinner
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