In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Wave 4: Optimus Maximus

Looks good, need to parts swap some from red Prime and forgo Roddy to get comic accurate.

I still haven't decided on whether or not I'll be getting wave four.

The molds just dont work for those characters. Prowl looks ok but the other 3 are hideous. The fact that these repaints even appear in a comic to justify their existance is Hasbro really scraping the crud off the bottom of the barrel. I think they should have just stuck to Victorion and the G2 repaints. These lazy repaints are more of an insult to the characters rather than a homage. If they wanted to reissue the characters they should have dusted off the original classics molds and given the US more cartoon accurate decos than the first time around. They could just slap the "Combiner Wars" monkier on the packages like they did with Armada Megatron, Huffer, and other figures shoehorned into the line. That would have been so much better than giving the characters a downgrade.

Looking good! Out of all five, the one I like the least is Prowl, but that's only because I've never been a huge fan of the Dead End mold's "feet".

After looking at the pix the only ones I may pick up are Prowl and Mirage.. It will be determined when I see them in person.

Poor rodimus, to be comic accurate you don't need to bother with him, and if that's not what you want...well he doesn't seem to add much to the combined mode

I'm pretty excited for these limb bots.

I wonder why Mirage has 62 instead of 26 as his number? Bucking any copy right infringement?

If I were to get that Prime, I'd count him as Nova instead of Optimus.

Noideaforaname wrote:If I were to get that Prime, I'd count him as Nova instead of Optimus.

That's my plan.

think he'll look much better with blackjack than rodimus. iron hide looks way too much like the other uses of his mold. prowl looks way too much like streetwise. sunstreaker could be better but is ok because we never see a sunstreaker. mirage looks good, especially because we never see a mirage. the unofficial transformation with car front on his chest will look even better. prime looks nice in robot mode and better than red prime in torso mode. still not great but better at least. i like the robot mode head a lot better than the combined mode head. love the gold eye brows. maybe i'll use robot mode head for combined mode. love the silver weapons and hands. all in all this blows victorion and betatron out of the water.

Sorry, but I really don't see why this exists, and using the Optimus/Motormaster mold with those floppy hips for the third time is beyond me. No matter what fixes I've found to try on Menasor, the only leg pose I can get out of him without collapsing is standing up straight. I fully expect this offering will be the same way.

The only one I want is Prowl. He looks great. The rest look cool enough, but I just don't have the space or cash for another combiner.

I don't get why they made two Combiner Wars Optimus Prime figures. I'm sure people will say $, but it just seems odd to me. I do like this redeco, though. Pretty cool looking.

morphobots wrote:Sorry, but I really don't see why this exists, and using the Optimus/Motormaster mold with those floppy hips for the third time is beyond me. No matter what fixes I've found to try on Menasor, the only leg pose I can get out of him without collapsing is standing up straight. I fully expect this offering will be the same way.

Pretty much this. Menasor looks great, but he's structurally flawed. And that's a big, floppy shame. I see no reason to get this mold a third time. Not even his sweet headcrest can persuade me.

I like that Mirage, and it's based on a quality mold, so I'll snag him. The rest are an easy pass. I already have three Dead Ends molds and two Offroads, and I hate the Breakdown mold.

peaces wrote:unofficial transformation with car front on his chest

Got a link? I'd like to see that. I haven't been able to find anything via the googles.

ZeroWolf wrote:Poor rodimus, to be comic accurate you don't need to bother with him, and if that's not what you want...well he doesn't seem to add much to the combined mode

He's pretty damn cool by himself. He has sharp colors, the vehicle mode is really nice, and there aren't many (if any) small Rodimus figures out there. The only problem is the ax can't be attached to his back in robot mode, unless you mod the figure. A great addition to a Rodimus collection. Then again, I may be a bit biased.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Poor rodimus, to be comic accurate you don't need to bother with him, and if that's not what you want...well he doesn't seem to add much to the combined mode

He's pretty damn cool by himself. He has sharp colors, the vehicle mode is really nice, and there aren't many (if any) small Rodimus figures out there. The only problem is the ax can't be attached to his back in robot mode, unless you mod the figure. A great addition to a Rodimus collection. Then again, I may be a bit biased.

Not being able to attach that axe/spoiler thing is just stupid on Hasbro/Takara's behalf. They had all the ingredients and yet they made no apple pie.

you can also use the transparent rubber band he comes with to hold it on his back

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:The only problem is the ax can't be attached to his back in robot mode, unless you mod the figure.

Mod you say?


Modimus Prime

peaces wrote:http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/meanhonkey1980/20150321_063252_zpsxdeepmh1.jpg

Ahhh... cool. I thought you meant Breakdown. I couldn't wrap may head around that to save my life.

peaces wrote:

Looks like Machine Wars Mirage.

I'm happy I was finally able to get my hands on a red Prime this last week. Sticking with him and then making my team out of Mirage, Prowl, the forthcoming Hound and Trailbreaker and using the red Legends Prime as the chest piece instead of Huffer. May have to get Powerglide as the weapon just for the fun of it. It's a lot of red for one combiner, which is why I'm not using Ironhide even though I'll still pick one up, but I like that potential team better than I do one based around this white Optimus. Since I look at Generations voyager class Magnus each day displayed above my computer desk, I just can't see a white Prime mold as anything BUT Ultra Magnus so that kills the purchase of this white CW Optimus for me.

MrBlack wrote:

peaces wrote:*snip*

Looks like Machine Wars Mirage.

*snip*

Also looks a little like this:

Proud Papa Dragstrip

Picking up Prowl, skip on the others, only because I don't really want those characters.

peaces wrote:http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/meanhonkey1980/20150321_063252_zpsxdeepmh1.jpg

I don't have the Generations Mirage, so I'm thinking about picking up this one. What are your thoughts?

Rated X wrote:The molds just dont work for those characters. Prowl looks ok but the other 3 are hideous. The fact that these repaints even appear in a comic to justify their existance is Hasbro really scraping the crud off the bottom of the barrel. I think they should have just stuck to Victorion and the G2 repaints. These lazy repaints are more of an insult to the characters rather than a homage. If they wanted to reissue the characters they should have dusted off the original classics molds and given the US more cartoon accurate decos than the first time around. They could just slap the "Combiner Wars" monkier on the packages like they did with Armada Megatron, Huffer, and other figures shoehorned into the line. That would have been so much better than giving the characters a downgrade.

I only don't like Ironhide. They are only doing these repaints for us older fans. Since these are already made, might as well get more use out of them right?

Thanks peaces. That formula 1 fan mode is pretty nice. It will definitely make Mirage look, well, like Mirage.

I said it once before and I'll say it again - the fact they have they same weapons as the old molds is just ridiculous and lazy. Come on really - Ironhide is toting an Axe around, give me a break! Utterly unacceptable

Puhonix wrote:

peaces wrote:http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/meanhonkey1980/20150321_063252_zpsxdeepmh1.jpg

I don't have the Generations Mirage, so I'm thinking about picking up this one. What are your thoughts?

I'm definitely getting Mirage. I think he looks good, I like the mold and I don't have a Mirage in my collection. Thinking about Sunstreaker, but I'm not a fan of the Breakdown mold. I'm on the fence about Prowl. I already have three of this mold and I like my Prowl to have been drinking red bull.

Mirage = repaint of Dragstrip. Cool in a reverse 'Masquerade' sense.

Sunstreak = repaint of Breakdown. The best. The foot piece as an engine is a really clever bit.

BC Optimus = Shame they couldn't work in Ultra Magnus as this one. Since we have Ultra Prime, Ultra Magnus would have worked.

this mirage is great. dragstrip is a great mold but dragstrip's colors could be better. that is fixed with mirage. i dont like classics mirage.

carytheone wrote:

MrBlack wrote:

peaces wrote:*snip*

Looks like Machine Wars Mirage.

*snip*

Also looks a little like this:

Proud Papa Dragstrip

MrBlack wrote:I like that Mirage, and it's based on a quality mold, so I'll snag him. The rest are an easy pass. I already have three Dead Ends molds and two Offroads, and I hate the Breakdown mold.

I hate it too. Those hips and feet are terrible.

Puhonix wrote:
I don't have the Generations Mirage, so I'm thinking about picking up this one. What are your thoughts?

You mean Universe Mirage right? The first classics mold to come out? I highly suggest you get that mold instead of this one just to have some variety in your collection, giving Dragstrip and Mirage two distinctive molds as opposed to them just being redecos. Universe Mirage is also an amazing mold by the way.

RhA wrote:

morphobots wrote:Sorry, but I really don't see why this exists, and using the Optimus/Motormaster mold with those floppy hips for the third time is beyond me. No matter what fixes I've found to try on Menasor, the only leg pose I can get out of him without collapsing is standing up straight. I fully expect this offering will be the same way.

Pretty much this. Menasor looks great, but he's structurally flawed. And that's a big, floppy shame. I see no reason to get this mold a third time. Not even his sweet headcrest can persuade me.

I agree with the both of you and I thought this toy was a huge missed opportunity on Hasbro's part. Do we really need yet another version of an Optimus Prime toy in this line? It could have easily been an Ultra Magnus toy. I also thought the choices for the limbs were poor. Ironhide could have easily been given First Aid's mold to make it closer to his incarnation from the classics or, better still, he could had been remolded to look like the Bayverse Ironhide with the two cannons - I would have bought that in a heartbeat.

The choice of Sunstreaker is also WTF. I would rather have the deluxe Groove figure from Takara's United Warriors as part of the limb. Heck, it would had been great if we get Groove recolored or redecoed as Wreck-Gar or Highwire - that way, at least North American fans can get their hands on this mold instead of yet another remold of the Dead End/Breakdown buck.

With Breakdown, Dead End, Streetwise, Dustup, Jumpstream, Sunstreaker, and Brake-Neck, sharing more or less the same mold, there was no reason not to use Rook's mold and give it to Ironhide, either, and give the police SUV to Prowl instead of the car buck for the eighth time. Heck, why even make it G1 Prowl? Could have been nice if this was RID Prowl or even Steeljaw.

Mirage is probably the only one that made sense in that group because they haven't reused the Drag Strip mold, so it makes financial sense for Hasbro to have this fig. Personally, I would like to see another new mold (besides Groove), but it's a nice repaint nonetheless.

Having a combiner made from components from across Transformers' history in the past 30 years would had been better than this - I know it's supposed to follow IDW continuity, but it would have been great if they did something different to make this figure less bleh. A RID (2001) combiner consists of Optimus (Hot Spot), Skidz (Mirage), X-Brawn (First Aid), Prowl (Streetwise), and Sideburn (Dead End) would have been awesome as well.

william-james88 wrote:You mean Universe Mirage right? The first classics mold to come out?

Sorry buddy, just splitting hairs with you.
Mirage was released in the Classics line...and is indeed a magnificent toy.

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:You mean Universe Mirage right? The first classics mold to come out?

Sorry buddy, just splitting hairs with you.
Mirage was released in the Classics line...and is indeed a magnificent toy.

Aha, yes! I own the Dragstrip version of the mold which came out in the universe line, hence my mistake.

william-james88 wrote:Those hips and feet are terrible.

You know what they say...

I have the hardest time with the hips getting him back into alt mode. I also find that he doesn't make a very good arm.

Cobotron wrote:Mirage was released in the Classics line...and is indeed a magnificent toy.

That one is pretty high on my wish list.

My apologies for abusing another one of Seibertron's pics for a bad joke

I think Prowl has now been part of more combiner teams than any other character: Magnaboss, Devastator, and now Optimus Maximus. Isn't that weird?

JazZeke wrote:I think Prowl has now been part of more combiner teams than any other character: Magnaboss, Devastator, and now Optimus Maximus. Isn't that weird?

Interesting observation. The iconic "loner" turning out to be a crucial "team player." Good eye.

JazZeke wrote:I think Prowl has now been part of more combiner teams than any other character: Magnaboss, Devastator, and now Optimus Maximus. Isn't that weird?

Ironhide was right there with him on Magnaboss. Maybe they just make a good team that way.

carytheone wrote:I have the hardest time with the hips getting him back into alt mode. I also find that he doesn't make a very good arm.

I use him as an arm simply because I hate him even more as a leg. I do not like those front flaps being inside out on the leg right there front and center. It doesnt look good. And I must say getting his hips back in alt mode can be very easy. I hate that it can be done since it shows how loose the tabs are, but you just tab his robot legs to eachother (like arm mode) and then lift the outer leg shells to connect them to the car body. They are so loose that you dont have to worry about the legs disconnecting. It's fun to do and works well but it is totally indicative of how loose those outer leg panels are.

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:I have the hardest time with the hips getting him back into alt mode. I also find that he doesn't make a very good arm.

I use him as an arm simply because I hate him even more as a leg. I do not like those front flaps being inside out on the leg right there front and center. It doesnt look good. And I must say getting his hips back in alt mode can be very easy. I hate that it can be done since it shows how loose the tabs are, but you just tab his robot legs to eachother (like arm mode) and then lift the outer leg shells to connect them to the car body. They are so loose that you dont have to worry about the legs disconnecting. It's fun to do and works well but it is totally indicative of how loose those outer leg panels are.

The Breakdown/Sunstreaker mold is definitely the worst of the Menasor/Optimus Maximus set.

william-james88 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:I think Prowl has now been part of more combiner teams than any other character: Magnaboss, Devastator, and now Optimus Maximus. Isn't that weird?

Ironhide was right there with him on Magnaboss. Maybe they just make a good team that way.

You really could make a Magnaboss now if you use the Silverbolt torso couldn't you?

Railbomb wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:I think Prowl has now been part of more combiner teams than any other character: Magnaboss, Devastator, and now Optimus Maximus. Isn't that weird?

Ironhide was right there with him on Magnaboss. Maybe they just make a good team that way.

You really could make a Magnaboss now if you use the Silverbolt torso couldn't you?

Hells yeah!

william-james88 wrote:

Railbomb wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:I think Prowl has now been part of more combiner teams than any other character: Magnaboss, Devastator, and now Optimus Maximus. Isn't that weird?

Ironhide was right there with him on Magnaboss. Maybe they just make a good team that way.

You really could make a Magnaboss now if you use the Silverbolt torso couldn't you?

Hells yeah!

Nah, use Scattershot, they're almost alike anyway. Who'd be the other two limbs anyway?

Without silverbolt being an eagle though, that would be dead to me. Though it still irks me that there was multiple prowls and silverbolts running around in beast wars. Imagine if they met up? No wonder Japan changed their names.

MR Optimus Prime wrote:

Rated X wrote:The molds just dont work for those characters. Prowl looks ok but the other 3 are hideous. The fact that these repaints even appear in a comic to justify their existance is Hasbro really scraping the crud off the bottom of the barrel. I think they should have just stuck to Victorion and the G2 repaints. These lazy repaints are more of an insult to the characters rather than a homage. If they wanted to reissue the characters they should have dusted off the original classics molds and given the US more cartoon accurate decos than the first time around. They could just slap the "Combiner Wars" monkier on the packages like they did with Armada Megatron, Huffer, and other figures shoehorned into the line. That would have been so much better than giving the characters a downgrade.

I only don't like Ironhide. They are only doing these repaints for us older fans. Since these are already made, might as well get more use out of them right?

That's just it, isn't it? They didn't have too; they could have come up with inventive re-uses of micromaster figures that have never seen an update, or other semi-obscure characters, there's hundreds of them, I'm sure. This isn't even a proper throwback because the masquerade team isn't even correct; and please another worthless reuse of the crappy o/p torso

This entire team just screams lazy to me. Now maybe these characters haven't been re-released for a while, and maybe buying them online now is an expensive pain, but these figures really don't do them any justice, and it took away 6 slots from cooler more interesting figures; I bet Sabrblade or Jelze could pound out a team roster based on micromasters in about 10 seconds, and I know it would be more appealing than this team. I will get them, but only because I like the molds, and I need a set of limbs for skyreign; but I will never love them like any of the other teams

Challenge Accepted!

Ironhide: Tote

Transformers G1 1989 Tote (Flak) Gallery

Sunstreaker: Free-Wheeler or Neo-Wheel

Transformers G1 1989 Free Wheeler (Wheelrun) Gallery


Transformers Universe Hot Spot Gallery

Prowl: Stakeout or Road Police

Transformers G1 1989 Stakeout (Hôrî) Gallery


Transformers Universe Prowl Gallery

Mirage: Tailspin or Circuit

Transformers G1 1989 Tailspin (Spinchange) Gallery


Transformers Universe Streetwise Gallery

Combiner Wars Sixturbo!

Hot Spot -- Discharge
Legends Groove -- Glide
Steetwise -- Road Police
Drag Strip -- Circuit
Breakdown -- Neo-Wheel
First Aid -- Sireen

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Challenge Accepted!

Ironhide: Tote

Transformers G1 1989 Tote (Flak) Gallery

Sunstreaker: Free-Wheeler or Neo-Wheel

Transformers G1 1989 Free Wheeler (Wheelrun) Gallery


Transformers Universe Hot Spot Gallery

Prowl: Stakeout or Road Police

Transformers G1 1989 Stakeout (Hôrî) Gallery


Transformers Universe Prowl Gallery

Mirage: Tailspin or Circuit

Transformers G1 1989 Tailspin (Spinchange) Gallery


Transformers Universe Streetwise Gallery

Epic I already care more for this set than the '84 teams combined; I particularly like Stakeout's color scheme, blue not seen enough in these combiners, one of the many reasons that I like Offroad so much - that teal

Now, how about some ?