In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull

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Another day ending in Y, another selection of images from TFYuki over on Twitter, as fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath reports, featuring the Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (Skullsmasher) in both robot and beast mode! You can check out the two photos below, and let us know what you think so far of the Takara take on the Titans Return line in the Energon Pub.

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Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786728)
Posted by Emerje on May 4th, 2016 @ 4:40am CDT

Ok, I'm actually rather impressed by how articulated the croc neck is. I guess I never noticed and assumed it was in a fixed position like the original figure.

Emerje

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786732)
Posted by Cyberpath on May 4th, 2016 @ 5:05am CDT

Hardhead

Skullcruncher

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786747)
Posted by Microraptor on May 4th, 2016 @ 7:48am CDT

Cyberpath wrote:
Hardhead

Skullcruncher

Hasbro's Hardhead is actually pretty accurate!

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786752)
Posted by MGrotusque on May 4th, 2016 @ 8:06am CDT

These side by side comparisons pics that are being posted are absolutely fantastic. Thanx for taking the time and doing this. It's extremely helpful in my decision making process.

Takara Skullcruncher all the way. The headmaster face is 100% better plus they painted the croc teeth. Nice touch.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786754)
Posted by MGrotusque on May 4th, 2016 @ 8:10am CDT

What's the stand that is being used for these pics. Anybody have an idea?

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786769)
Posted by StarFireMk4 on May 4th, 2016 @ 9:19am CDT

MGrotusque wrote:What's the stand that is being used for these pics. Anybody have an idea?

I thought it was Takara's own flight stand?

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786770)
Posted by Kurona on May 4th, 2016 @ 9:26am CDT

Every picture I see of Skullcruncher just makes me want him more and more. I fucking need that crocodile.

Also... starting to not like the Takara Hardhead as much. I was thinking of it at first because mouth, but the colours are waaaaaay too saturated; they need to be a bit darker than they are to fit.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786778)
Posted by william-james88 on May 4th, 2016 @ 10:06am CDT

Kurona wrote:Every picture I see of Skullcruncher just makes me want him more and more. I **** need that crocodile.

Also... starting to not like the Takara Hardhead as much. I was thinking of it at first because mouth, but the colours are waaaaaay too saturated; they need to be a bit darker than they are to fit.

Agreed, though I find it so damn cool that for once we can look at both versions and see where both are coming from and what the merrits for each are. Its not clear cut that Takara is the winner here, its really up to our own preferences and that is awesome.

Interestingly, while I know Takara's Skullcruncher is going for show accuracy, the bright colours make it seem more like a toy than Hasbro's more muted colours.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786786)
Posted by Cyberpath on May 4th, 2016 @ 11:03am CDT

MGrotusque wrote:These side by side comparisons pics that are being posted are absolutely fantastic. Thanx for taking the time and doing this. It's extremely helpful in my decision making process.

Takara Skullcruncher all the way. The headmaster face is 100% better plus they painted the croc teeth. Nice touch.

Thanks!

I think the Hasbro version also has metal-coloured teeth.

Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

titans__guns.jpg

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786794)
Posted by DeceptiCobra on May 4th, 2016 @ 11:31am CDT

Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786796)
Posted by Insurgent on May 4th, 2016 @ 11:59am CDT

Takara = an extra 'transforming' weapon and the heads are remoulded to look like they do in the Japanese show The Headmasters.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786801)
Posted by Kurona on May 4th, 2016 @ 12:45pm CDT

DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786803)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 4th, 2016 @ 1:05pm CDT

Cyberpath wrote:Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

titans__guns.jpg

I think it has to do with safety concerns. The guns have to be big enough to not be considered choking hazards small enough for children to swallow.

The gaps are the unfortunate result of making the guns large enough while economically using as minimal an amount of plastic as budget-ly possible.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786815)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 4th, 2016 @ 1:41pm CDT

I also didn't know that Croc neck was so articulated. Nice posing potential! :MAXIMAL:

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786821)
Posted by DeceptiCobra on May 4th, 2016 @ 1:50pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

So we're getting them, we just have to pay for them separately?

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786822)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 4th, 2016 @ 1:55pm CDT

DeceptiCobra wrote:
Kurona wrote:
DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

So we're getting them, we just have to pay for them separately?

Hasbro made the vehicles to go with the Titan Master class heads, but Takara is splitting the heads and vehicles apart from each other for the Japanese releases, giving the vehicles to the Deluxe class figures and the heads to the Legends class figures.

The little tank/jet/gun that comes with Takara Hardhead is from Hasbro's Titan Master Terri-Bull (Horri-Bull), while the little bird/dinosaur/gun that comes with Takara Skull is from Hasbro's Titan Master Crashbash (Squeezeplay).

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786834)
Posted by Counterpunch on May 4th, 2016 @ 2:38pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

titans__guns.jpg
I think it has to do with safety concerns. The guns have to be big enough to not be considered choking hazards small enough for children to swallow.

I don't think this is the case from my discussions on safety issues with the design staff.

I asked about the safety of the small titan masters. They really seemed like choking hazards in person, because I could see my own kid swallowing or trying to swallow one. (They're really small)

It was clarified to me, that they have some kind of choking hazard test that is limited to objects thinner than a straw (like a missile) where the object projects from something. Basically, if it's small, thin, and moves; it has to be this and that long (like 3 inches).

Otherwise, it's just not an issue. I mean, look at legos. Lots of small parts, no worries about choking hazards.

irc, the infamous "drop test" was clarified to pertain only to toys that fly or are for "simulated flight", in short, Fort Max is a base, not a ship and the drop test has nothing to do with him...

Sabrblade wrote:The gaps are the unfortunate result of making the guns large enough while economically using as minimal an amount of plastic as budget-ly possible.

I think this is a far more likely answer.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786840)
Posted by DeceptiCobra on May 4th, 2016 @ 2:51pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
DeceptiCobra wrote:
Kurona wrote:
DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

So we're getting them, we just have to pay for them separately?
Hasbro made the vehicles to go with the Titan Master class heads, but Takara is splitting the heads and vehicles apart from each other for the Japanese releases, giving the vehicles to the Deluxe class figures and the heads to the Legends class figures.

The little tank/jet/gun that comes with Takara Hardhead is from Hasbro's Titan Master Nightbeat, while the little bird/dinosaur/gun that comes with Takara Skull is from Hasbro's Titan Master Crashbash (Squeezeplay).

Thanks for the breakdown

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786843)
Posted by Cyberpath on May 4th, 2016 @ 2:55pm CDT

Counterpunch wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

I think it has to do with safety concerns. The guns have to be big enough to not be considered choking hazards small enough for children to swallow.

I don't think this is the case from my discussions on safety issues with the design staff.

I asked about the safety of the small titan masters. They really seemed like choking hazards in person, because I could see my own kid swallowing or trying to swallow one. (They're really small)

It was clarified to me, that they have some kind of choking hazard test that is limited to objects thinner than a straw (like a missile) where the object projects from something. Basically, if it's small, thin, and moves; it has to be this and that long (like 3 inches).

Otherwise, it's just not an issue. I mean, look at legos. Lots of small parts, no worries about choking hazards.

irc, the infamous "drop test" was clarified to pertain only to toys that fly or are for "simulated flight", in short, Fort Max is a base, not a ship and the drop test has nothing to do with him...

Sabrblade wrote:The gaps are the unfortunate result of making the guns large enough while economically using as minimal an amount of plastic as budget-ly possible.

I think this is a far more likely answer.

Yeah, but if they make them smaller, like Arcee's guns, they could use the same amount of plastic without those gaps? The guns seem too big and clunky to me.

Maybe I should try to pick up some basic 3D modeling. :)

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786844)
Posted by Agamemnon on May 4th, 2016 @ 2:58pm CDT

Cyberpath wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

I think it has to do with safety concerns. The guns have to be big enough to not be considered choking hazards small enough for children to swallow.

I don't think this is the case from my discussions on safety issues with the design staff.

I asked about the safety of the small titan masters. They really seemed like choking hazards in person, because I could see my own kid swallowing or trying to swallow one. (They're really small)

It was clarified to me, that they have some kind of choking hazard test that is limited to objects thinner than a straw (like a missile) where the object projects from something. Basically, if it's small, thin, and moves; it has to be this and that long (like 3 inches).

Otherwise, it's just not an issue. I mean, look at legos. Lots of small parts, no worries about choking hazards.

irc, the infamous "drop test" was clarified to pertain only to toys that fly or are for "simulated flight", in short, Fort Max is a base, not a ship and the drop test has nothing to do with him...

Sabrblade wrote:The gaps are the unfortunate result of making the guns large enough while economically using as minimal an amount of plastic as budget-ly possible.

I think this is a far more likely answer.

Yeah, but if they make them smaller, like Arcee's guns, they could use the same amount of plastic without those gaps? The guns seem too big and clunky to me.

Maybe I should try to pick up some basic 3D modeling.

I think it might have to do with little boys and the "B" in "BFG"

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786850)
Posted by william-james88 on May 4th, 2016 @ 4:41pm CDT

DeceptiCobra wrote:
Kurona wrote:
DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

So we're getting them, we just have to pay for them separately?

Yeah. But the price for the takara pack that comes with them is higher so it comes out to the same thing, plus Hasbro gives you a bonus head

Like that you also get to pick and choose. If you dont want any then you dont have to buy any and you can choose to only spend money on the deluxe toy when it comes to Hasbro. I personally like this better.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786855)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 4th, 2016 @ 5:03pm CDT

DeceptiCobra wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
DeceptiCobra wrote:
Kurona wrote:
DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

So we're getting them, we just have to pay for them separately?
Hasbro made the vehicles to go with the Titan Master class heads, but Takara is splitting the heads and vehicles apart from each other for the Japanese releases, giving the vehicles to the Deluxe class figures and the heads to the Legends class figures.

The little tank/jet/gun that comes with Takara Hardhead is from Hasbro's Titan Master Nightbeat, while the little bird/dinosaur/gun that comes with Takara Skull is from Hasbro's Titan Master Crashbash (Squeezeplay).

Thanks for the breakdown

I thought that Hardhead vehicle was Terri-Bull's. Nightbeat's is that drill tank.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786857)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 4th, 2016 @ 5:09pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
DeceptiCobra wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
DeceptiCobra wrote:
Kurona wrote:
DeceptiCobra wrote:Ok, so maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but besides the paint jobs, what are the differences between Takara and Hasbro? It looks like they come with extra weapons.

Also, those 'extra weapons' are recoloured from the vehicles released under Hasbro's Titan Master class in Titans Return. Which are like, half the price of a legends.

So we're getting them, we just have to pay for them separately?
Hasbro made the vehicles to go with the Titan Master class heads, but Takara is splitting the heads and vehicles apart from each other for the Japanese releases, giving the vehicles to the Deluxe class figures and the heads to the Legends class figures.

The little tank/jet/gun that comes with Takara Hardhead is from Hasbro's Titan Master Nightbeat, while the little bird/dinosaur/gun that comes with Takara Skull is from Hasbro's Titan Master Crashbash (Squeezeplay).

Thanks for the breakdown

I thought that Hardhead vehicle was Terri-Bull's. Nightbeat's is that drill tank.

You are correct. It is Terri-Bull's, not Nightbeat's. I keep getting that one mixed up. :oops:

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786958)
Posted by Cyberpath on May 5th, 2016 @ 3:06am CDT

きっとゴーストになってしまったスタースクリームには、ガルバトロンの砲台モードはトラウマなんだろうなぁ。

「これは良い物を手に入れたぞ、流石ゴーストスタースクリームだ。」「コラー！返せー、ワシの物だぞー!!」運命の出会いが今ここに♪

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1786962)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 5th, 2016 @ 4:06am CDT

Agamemnon wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

I think it has to do with safety concerns. The guns have to be big enough to not be considered choking hazards small enough for children to swallow.

I don't think this is the case from my discussions on safety issues with the design staff.

I asked about the safety of the small titan masters. They really seemed like choking hazards in person, because I could see my own kid swallowing or trying to swallow one. (They're really small)

It was clarified to me, that they have some kind of choking hazard test that is limited to objects thinner than a straw (like a missile) where the object projects from something. Basically, if it's small, thin, and moves; it has to be this and that long (like 3 inches).

Otherwise, it's just not an issue. I mean, look at legos. Lots of small parts, no worries about choking hazards.

irc, the infamous "drop test" was clarified to pertain only to toys that fly or are for "simulated flight", in short, Fort Max is a base, not a ship and the drop test has nothing to do with him...

Sabrblade wrote:The gaps are the unfortunate result of making the guns large enough while economically using as minimal an amount of plastic as budget-ly possible.

I think this is a far more likely answer.

Yeah, but if they make them smaller, like Arcee's guns, they could use the same amount of plastic without those gaps? The guns seem too big and clunky to me.

Maybe I should try to pick up some basic 3D modeling.

Same with the original g1 guns. Also hollow.

I think it might have to do with little boys and the "B" in "BFG"

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1787018)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 5th, 2016 @ 2:10pm CDT

Cyberpath wrote:

きっとゴーストになってしまったスタースクリームには、ガルバトロンの砲台モードはトラウマなんだろうなぁ。

「これは良い物を手に入れたぞ、流石ゴーストスタースクリームだ。」「コラー！返せー、ワシの物だぞー!!」運命の出会いが今ここに♪

Grand Galvatron looks awesome with the larger cannon though poor legends galvy looks short changed :-P

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1787097)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 5th, 2016 @ 8:02pm CDT

fenrir72 wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Too bad Takara didn't redo the guns, too. I don't know why Hasbro made them so big and gappy. Wouldn't making them smoother and smaller use the same amount of plastic..?

I think it has to do with safety concerns. The guns have to be big enough to not be considered choking hazards small enough for children to swallow.

I don't think this is the case from my discussions on safety issues with the design staff.

I asked about the safety of the small titan masters. They really seemed like choking hazards in person, because I could see my own kid swallowing or trying to swallow one. (They're really small)

It was clarified to me, that they have some kind of choking hazard test that is limited to objects thinner than a straw (like a missile) where the object projects from something. Basically, if it's small, thin, and moves; it has to be this and that long (like 3 inches).

Otherwise, it's just not an issue. I mean, look at legos. Lots of small parts, no worries about choking hazards.

irc, the infamous "drop test" was clarified to pertain only to toys that fly or are for "simulated flight", in short, Fort Max is a base, not a ship and the drop test has nothing to do with him...

Sabrblade wrote:The gaps are the unfortunate result of making the guns large enough while economically using as minimal an amount of plastic as budget-ly possible.

I think this is a far more likely answer.

Yeah, but if they make them smaller, like Arcee's guns, they could use the same amount of plastic without those gaps? The guns seem too big and clunky to me.

Maybe I should try to pick up some basic 3D modeling.

I think it might have to do with little boys and the "B" in "BFG"

Same with the original g1 guns. Also hollow.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1787479)
Posted by shajaki on May 7th, 2016 @ 12:11pm CDT

Twitter user くろさび@chromless has become quite famous as of late, next bringing us more Transfest2016 shots this time of display pics of TakaraTomy's Transformers Legends EX line featuring Beast Wars reissues! So far this line features more show accurate deco's of Rhinox, Rattrap, and Waspinator previously featured in lines like Generations and Legends. See the in and out of box pics below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1787481)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 7th, 2016 @ 12:17pm CDT

Can't wait until we finally have a release date and price on these guys.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1787483)
Posted by Kurona on May 7th, 2016 @ 12:19pm CDT

I think this might be one of if not the only time I go for a Takara version over the Hasbro version in a case where the Hasbro version doesn't look bad (like TR Blurr)
Probably because I care a lot more about the Beast Wars guys. I imagine it'd be pretty expensive importing all three tho...

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1787493)
Posted by shajaki on May 7th, 2016 @ 12:45pm CDT

Even more Transfest2016 images coming at you from Twitter'er くろさび@chromless and 輸送兵@BW復活祭参加@portarmy, this time of TakaraTomy Transformers Legends LG-21 Hardhead, LG-22 Skullcruncher, and LG-23 Galvatron! These pics largely feature close ups of Galvatron and his Titanmaster head, giving us a much better idea of his inner workings. See the in depth images below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1787495)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on May 7th, 2016 @ 12:50pm CDT

Huh. They look much better in natural lighting. Hell, even Galvatron doesn't look so bad.

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Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 7th, 2016 @ 12:53pm CDT

The Periwinkle color of Galvatron is really starting to grow on me.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1787498)
Posted by william-james88 on May 7th, 2016 @ 12:56pm CDT

Kurona wrote:I think this might be one of if not the only time I go for a Takara version over the Hasbro version in a case where the Hasbro version doesn't look bad (like TR Blurr)
Probably because I care a lot more about the Beast Wars guys. I imagine it'd be pretty expensive importing all three tho...

With the beast wars guys, its not really about importing, these are convention exclusives. So its the equivalent of someone in japan wanting to buy Botcon/SDCC exclusives. The only way an american will be able to get him is through BBTS, like the link I put below.

And Wolfman Jake, it should be same price as the LGEX toys of last year for deluxes:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

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Posted by Kurona on May 7th, 2016 @ 12:58pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:I think this might be one of if not the only time I go for a Takara version over the Hasbro version in a case where the Hasbro version doesn't look bad (like TR Blurr)
Probably because I care a lot more about the Beast Wars guys. I imagine it'd be pretty expensive importing all three tho...

With the beast wars guys, its not really about importing, these are convention exclusives. So its the equivalent of someone in japan wanting to buy Botcon/SDCC exclusives. The only way an american will be able to get him is through BBTS, like the link I put below.

And Wolfman Jake, it should be same price as the LGEX toys of last year for deluxes:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

WELP NEVER MIND THEN LMAO

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1787503)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 7th, 2016 @ 1:01pm CDT

So, maybe $40 Rattrap and Waspinator and $60-65 for Rhinox? Not bad, all told. Better than you would do buying directly from the TFCC for BotCon exclusives of equivalent size, that's for sure.

By the way, can anyone tell if there's really ANY appreciable difference in the decos between Legends Rattrap and LG-EX Rattrap? They look identical for me except for the Beast Mode eyes being black on the EX version, which is more accurate for the Beast Mode, but the red eyes for the standard Legends release are much more accurate to the Robot Mode, which is the mode I would have him displayed in more often than not. I'm trying to figure out if there is really any reason otherwise to get the EX version of Rattrap. LG-EX Rhinox is a must for his less shiny metallic "skin." Same goes for Waspinator versus his previous Takara Generations version. The lack of the shiny paint looks a lot more on model in terms of coloring, though the deep green and gold did look nice too.

The space between Galvatron's "Headmaster" unit and the "Transtector" mask is still problematic. It looks like it should fit a lot more snuggly together. For instance, the chin on the Headmaster looks like it should plug into the back of the chin strap on the helmet façade. In the pics above, Galvatron's got a weird "double chin" deal going on.

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Posted by Nemesis Destron on May 7th, 2016 @ 5:14pm CDT

Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?

It's just so damn weird that I really really hope a 3rd Party comes forward with a much better looking head piece! :PRAY:

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1787565)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 7th, 2016 @ 5:18pm CDT

I think it it was a way to have the traditional galvatron crown as well as the headmaster gimmick.

Re: In-Hand Images - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG22 Skull (1787586)
Posted by william-james88 on May 7th, 2016 @ 6:14pm CDT

Nemesis Destron wrote:Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?

It's just so damn weird that I really really hope a 3rd Party comes forward with a much better looking head piece!

Its not that complex. You just insert the titanmaster as his small head and then a mask flips from his chest and goes over it. And you can then rotate it all.

It works pretty much like the old beetlejuice toys but this time the bigger face stays attached to the body and stored there.

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Posted by fenrir72 on May 7th, 2016 @ 6:27pm CDT

NERDGASM! el Pollo locco Galvatron looks BOSS!

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 7th, 2016 @ 6:31pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?

Its not that complex. You just insert the titanmaster as his small head and then a mask flips from his chest and goes over it. And you can then rotate it all.

Soundwave and Blaster have those helmets as well. It's a bit of a necessary evil as all the Titan Masters have to remain the same size for overall compatibility, and the larger the body (like the Leaders and some Voyagers) the smaller the head would look proportionally. Like the Beetlejuice above. :lol:

It's either find a way to bulk them out, or design bigger Titan Masters.
The helmet trick has been done before, mind you, mostly with combiners. Two that come to mind are Energon Optimus Prime and PCC Skyhammer, and G1 Scorponok uses the very same cheat.

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Posted by King Kuuga on May 8th, 2016 @ 1:26am CDT

Nemesis Destron wrote:Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?

It's just so damn weird that I really really hope a 3rd Party comes forward with a much better looking head piece!

It's a way to keep the titan masters uniformly sized and compatible with all size classes while still looking proportional on larger figures.

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Posted by fenrir72 on May 8th, 2016 @ 3:15am CDT

That Bot wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?

It's just so damn weird that I really really hope a 3rd Party comes forward with a much better looking head piece!

It's a way to keep the titan masters uniformly sized and compatible with all size classes while still looking proportional on larger figures.

It also hearkens to the days of the Headmaster Jr. Half head half cockpit.

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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 8th, 2016 @ 10:39pm CDT

Ole Galvatron did not look impressed with his new headmaster upgrade. did you see that face? Silent disapproval :MAXIMAL:

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Posted by Va'al on May 10th, 2016 @ 3:09am CDT

Via site sponsor TFSource, we have some confirmation on the upcoming figures to be released by Takara Tomy in their Transformers Legends line! Ranging from LG27 to LG31, the figures are, in order: Leader class Blaster, Legends class Rewind, Legends class Wheelie, Deluxe class Weirdwolf/Wolfwire, and the big bot himself, Fortress Maximus - check out the grey images below, and speculate away on redecos in the Energon Pub.

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Posted by King Kuuga on May 10th, 2016 @ 3:19am CDT

LG-30 was the mystery one, right? Kind of odd for it to just be Weirdwolf.

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Posted by SpikeyTigertron on May 10th, 2016 @ 3:55am CDT

Did they remold Fort Max's feet?

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Posted by william-james88 on May 10th, 2016 @ 6:29am CDT

I guess this means that Takara isn't God afterall and didnt drastically remold fort max for him to be able to pull off his traditional city mode.

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Posted by Randomhero on May 10th, 2016 @ 7:54am CDT

william-james88 wrote:I guess this means that Takara isn't God afterall and didnt drastically remold fort max for him to be able to pull off his traditional city mode.

I don't see how you can without giving him entirely new legs. Those legs and knees would need to be entirely redone to do it and to do so many our either have to deal with the back of his legs or sizes being completely visibly hallow or have to deal with huge fold out panels hanging off in city mode. considering his new city mode is technically a version of fort Max's city mode they-like hasbro-probably thought it was good enough and personably I think it is even if you're just laying him down and giving him the splits. It does look better than metroplex's where he just sits down.

Pretty sure the only retooling Max is getting is a new Heasmasters cartoon/toy a crate head for his smaller robot

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Posted by Prowl4 on May 10th, 2016 @ 8:14am CDT

Wheelie and rewind being accompanied by headmasters is a bit odd. Maybe this is takaras way of selling the additional heads that hasbro are doing separately.

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