In-Hand images of Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Smokescreen
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 20th, 2015 @ 2:53pm CDT
What is this? This is so lazy, they even left the light bar on him; I mean, I know that it is part of the body itself, but man this is hideous and lazy
Thank Primus I got the first '84 team for him already, looks like I really will just be getting hound from that set of limbs
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 20th, 2015 @ 3:07pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Wow, is that the finished product? He has no paint apps on his body
What is this? This is so lazy, they even left the light bar on him; I mean, I know that it is part of the body itself, but man this is hideous and lazy
Thank Primus I got the first '84 team for him already, looks like I really will just be getting hound from that set of limbs
He hardly has any to be sure, just on the head and chest. The rest is concentrated on the vehicle mode, which needs a lot: red to cover the blue plastic and vice-versa as it would be a patchwork otherwise.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 20th, 2015 @ 3:10pm CDT
No wonder we never noticed that before. Look at how they posed his CG render:Hellscream9999 wrote:Wow, is that the finished product? He has no paint apps on his body
Clever, Hasbro. Clever.
And looks to be the same as the ones on display at BotCon and SDCC:
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 20th, 2015 @ 3:14pm CDT
Which brings me to a question. The boot section was remolded from Dead End for Streetwise. Streetwise, Prowl, and Smokescreen all have rear car windows for their boots. Why didn't they try to mold the boots so that they look like fake windows and would be more accurate?
Posted by It Is Him on October 20th, 2015 @ 3:53pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 20th, 2015 @ 3:59pm CDT
It Is Him wrote:Is that a new head sculpt compared to Prowl?
Nope, straight redeco all the way. Would be a waist waste to retool it if they look so much alike, right?
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 20th, 2015 @ 4:32pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:No wonder we never noticed that before. Look at how they posed his CG render:Hellscream9999 wrote:Wow, is that the finished product? He has no paint apps on his body
Clever, Hasbro. Clever.
And looks to be the same as the ones on display at BotCon and SDCC:
Yeah, I'm sorry, but this is inexcusable laziness on hasbro's part. I don't care how 'G1 accurate' this may be (it isn't really though, I believe), nor should it being the last wave affect it's deco.
I get the feeling that TT could really knock this waves' deco's outta the park
Posted by Black Bumblebee on October 20th, 2015 @ 4:40pm CDT
Posted by Railbomb on October 20th, 2015 @ 4:49pm CDT
Black Bumblebee wrote:Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/
Woah woah woah, CW Smokescreen isn't on that level of bad.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 20th, 2015 @ 4:53pm CDT
Railbomb wrote:Black Bumblebee wrote:Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/
Woah woah woah, CW Smokescreen isn't on that level of bad.
Sure he is, it's just in robot mode now
Posted by mooncake623 on October 20th, 2015 @ 4:56pm CDT
Railbomb wrote:Black Bumblebee wrote:Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/
Woah woah woah, CW Smokescreen isn't on that level of bad.
It's cool to get these first in-hand looks but lets wait until we see this in packaging when it comes out before we rush to judgement on something like paint and such. Like those reviewers that review early third party samples says "the final product may change, this is still and early example" or whatever
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 20th, 2015 @ 4:58pm CDT
mooncake623 wrote:Railbomb wrote:Black Bumblebee wrote:Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/
Woah woah woah, CW Smokescreen isn't on that level of bad.
It's cool to get these first in-hand looks but lets wait until we see this in packaging when it comes out before we rush to judgement on something like paint and such. Like those reviewers that review early third party samples says "the final product may change, this is still and early example" or whatever
Except that it's the same as the display pieces, and the artwork that they release (which to my knowledge has been on the mark for this line) so, yeah, he isn't likely to get any more paint apps between now and then
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 20th, 2015 @ 5:00pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 20th, 2015 @ 5:06pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.
Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.
Posted by Autobot N on October 20th, 2015 @ 5:07pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.
Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.
That's why we have Reprolabels.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 20th, 2015 @ 5:09pm CDT
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.
Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.
That's why we have Reprolabels.
Still not okay
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 20th, 2015 @ 5:12pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.
Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.
I was talking about the top: most of the vehicle mode is blue plastic as far as I can tell. Meaning it needs a lot of red paint to make it look like a proper Smokescreen. Only the roof and arms are red plastic, the latter needing blue paint.
Posted by no-one on October 20th, 2015 @ 5:53pm CDT
Sharp car mode you gots there smokes.
Posted by MGrotusque on October 20th, 2015 @ 7:42pm CDT
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on October 20th, 2015 @ 7:47pm CDT
MGrotusque wrote:I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......
Well, then thank Primus there's RiD!
Posted by Gunmetal on October 20th, 2015 @ 7:50pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.
Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.
I was talking about the top: most of the vehicle mode is blue plastic as far as I can tell. Meaning it needs a lot of red paint to make it look like a proper Smokescreen. Only the roof and arms are red plastic, the latter needing blue paint.
Agreed. Needing the whole budget for the basic color scheme with nothing left for details is sort of Smokescreens thing, just as Silverbolt will always be a robot under a jet.
Bottom line: if Hasbro wanted to be cheap or lazy, they wouldn’t paint half of a blue and red car to make Smokescreen; they’d paint none of a grey and black car to make Bluestreak.
Posted by Hitokiri2 on October 20th, 2015 @ 7:52pm CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:
So...what does this mean? Computron yes or Computron no?
Posted by Hitokiri2 on October 20th, 2015 @ 7:59pm CDT
MGrotusque wrote:I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......
Same here but I think at the end of the day it really matters how you plan to use the figures. People who like to set up the figures individually (whether in robot or alt mode) are probably more ticked then those who like to combine them.
I know that the Bruticus for the most part is a mix of other retooled Transformers but as long as Bruticus looks unique enough I'll still buy the Combaticons since that's how I'll leave them.
Posted by Cobotron on October 20th, 2015 @ 8:34pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on October 20th, 2015 @ 8:39pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 20th, 2015 @ 9:10pm CDT
From Hasbro, no. From Takara, possibly possible but undetermined.Hitokiri2 wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:
So...what does this mean? Computron yes or Computron no?
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2015 @ 9:20pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Well here's a positive spin on Smokescreen. At least in both limb modes you see mostly car parts.
Here's another positive spin, you can now have a combiner completely made of the same mold in different decos. Oh wait, we already could, this is just an extra to swap...
Posted by Doubledealer93 on October 20th, 2015 @ 9:31pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 20th, 2015 @ 9:35pm CDT
MGrotusque wrote:I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......
I wouldn't mind half as much if they weren't characters I don't care about - all of whom I've passed on the shelves before - and don't really want. Had they been inventive like the mayhem team, I would've been so stoked for them, but alas, they are just repeating the same boring G1 stuff over and over again
Posted by Gunmetal on October 20th, 2015 @ 10:29pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:MGrotusque wrote:I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......
I wouldn't mind half as much if they weren't characters I don't care about - all of whom I've passed on the shelves before - and don't really want. Had they been inventive like the mayhem team, I would've been so stoked for them, but alas, they are just repeating the same boring G1 stuff over and over again
Hey, anyone not into G1 is welcome to come by and check out my local Wal-Marts: plenty of Rattraps, Tankors, and Armada Megatrons for everyone!
(With green Megs gone, maybe they'll finally stock Ultra Magnus! )
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 20th, 2015 @ 10:35pm CDT
Randomus wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:MGrotusque wrote:I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......
I wouldn't mind half as much if they weren't characters I don't care about - all of whom I've passed on the shelves before - and don't really want. Had they been inventive like the mayhem team, I would've been so stoked for them, but alas, they are just repeating the same boring G1 stuff over and over again
Hey, anyone not into G1 is welcome to come by and check out my local Wal-Marts: plenty of Rattraps, Tankors, and Armada Megatrons for everyone!
(With green Megs gone, maybe they'll finally stock Ultra Magnus! )
I wouldn't mind getting a tankor at a good enough price, but I'm guessing he's not on clearance yet - probably why they're still there
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2015 @ 10:39pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
I wouldn't mind getting a tankor at a good enough price, but I'm guessing he's not on clearance yet - probably why they're still there
What would be a good price to you? 10$? 8$
Man, I wish you were here a year ago, there was a seller on e-bay selling Takara tankors (out of the box with no instructions, they were factory surplus) for 8$ shipping included. Good times.
Also to the others, We still have ample green megs where I am but it hasnt stopped ultra magnus from rolling in (Or Starscream).
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 20th, 2015 @ 10:44pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 20th, 2015 @ 10:44pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:
I wouldn't mind getting a tankor at a good enough price, but I'm guessing he's not on clearance yet - probably why they're still there
What would be a good price to you? 10$? 8$
Man, I wish you were here a year ago, there was a seller on e-bay selling Takara tankors (out of the box with no instructions, they were factory surplus) for 8$ shipping included. Good times.
Also to the others, We still have ample green megs where I am but it hasnt stopped ultra magnus from rolling in (Or Starscream).
$8 seems fair. Can't believe you have leader starscream up there already
But if anyone else's um is anything like mine, I'd prepare for disappointment
Posted by Grahf_ on October 20th, 2015 @ 11:42pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Well here's a positive spin on Smokescreen. At least in both limb modes you see mostly car parts.
Here's another positive spin, you can now have a combiner completely made of the same mold in different decos. Oh wait, we already could, this is just an extra to swap...
Once everything is all said and done from Hasbro, you can make TWO combiners with only this basic mold. G1 and G2 Dead End and Wildrider, Streetwise, Prowl, Smokescreen and Dustup. You can even have a third combiner if you have the Takara versions of Dead End, Wildrider, Streetwise and Prowl as well. I'll be using my Takara Streetwise as a lazy Silverstreak. At least Takara's "Galvatronus" won't have that mold in it too.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 20th, 2015 @ 11:55pm CDT
Alpha Weltall wrote:william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Well here's a positive spin on Smokescreen. At least in both limb modes you see mostly car parts.
Here's another positive spin, you can now have a combiner completely made of the same mold in different decos. Oh wait, we already could, this is just an extra to swap...
Once everything is all said and done from Hasbro, you can make TWO combiners with only this basic mold. G1 and G2 Dead End and Wildrider, Streetwise, Prowl, Smokescreen and Dustup. You can even have a third combiner if you have the Takara versions of Dead End, Wildrider, Streetwise and Prowl as well. I'll be using my Takara Streetwise as a lazy Silverstreak. At least Takara's "Galvatronus" won't have that mold in it too.
Everyone's worst nightmare is realized: 2 combiners made of only 1 single limb mold....
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2015 @ 11:57pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 21st, 2015 @ 12:02am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Alpha Weltall wrote:william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Well here's a positive spin on Smokescreen. At least in both limb modes you see mostly car parts.
Here's another positive spin, you can now have a combiner completely made of the same mold in different decos. Oh wait, we already could, this is just an extra to swap...
Once everything is all said and done from Hasbro, you can make TWO combiners with only this basic mold. G1 and G2 Dead End and Wildrider, Streetwise, Prowl, Smokescreen and Dustup. You can even have a third combiner if you have the Takara versions of Dead End, Wildrider, Streetwise and Prowl as well. I'll be using my Takara Streetwise as a lazy Silverstreak. At least Takara's "Galvatronus" won't have that mold in it too.
Everyone's worst nightmare is realized: 2 combiners made of only 1 single limb mold....
Positive Spin time: Now you have the most uniform looking combiners
Posted by Cobotron on October 21st, 2015 @ 12:07am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 21st, 2015 @ 12:27am CDT
Posted by Bounti76 on October 21st, 2015 @ 12:34am CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 21st, 2015 @ 12:36am CDT
Skipping him; hope sky lynx's wavemate is better than this
Posted by fenrir72 on October 21st, 2015 @ 12:44am CDT
Posted by Zeedust on October 21st, 2015 @ 1:16am CDT
I can handle Betatron having the same head mold as Superion, but his head being literally identical to Superion's is just sad.
Posted by leokearon on October 21st, 2015 @ 2:00am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 21st, 2015 @ 2:02am CDT
Still tempted by Sky Lynx but won't use him as a Combiner and the rest of this stuff is just forgettable junk.
Posted by RhA on October 21st, 2015 @ 3:48am CDT
Posted by ThunderThruster on October 21st, 2015 @ 3:55am CDT
Posted by Black Bumblebee on October 21st, 2015 @ 5:57am CDT
Posted by frogbat on October 21st, 2015 @ 6:38am CDT
Re scattershot, he's too similar to silverbolt and without a proper team to go with him... I'm sure there are sketches in a vault somewhere of all the technobots, terror cons and predacons. The latter would make a great second voyager combiner like the constructions.