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In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Thursday, December 29th, 2016 1:31PM CST

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Via usual toy photography suspect tagoal on Twitter, we have some in-hand images of the Takara Tomy Legends version of the Transformers Titans Return leader class LG36 Soundwave, with LG37 Ravage and LG38 Laserbeak cassetticons (plus Headmasters accompanying them), and a couple of comparisons with the Hasbro release of the three. Check them all out mirrored below!

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak

Transformers News: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak
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Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849462)
Posted by Randomhero on December 29th, 2016 @ 1:50pm CST
I caved and ordered Ginrai. Perfectly happy with PM Optimus but god bomber really sealed the deal. Hope he comes next week.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849477)
Posted by Autobot N on December 29th, 2016 @ 2:14pm CST
For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849484)
Posted by Nexus Knight on December 29th, 2016 @ 2:20pm CST
Takara-Tomy. You're awesome. You're truly and brilliantly awesome. But those minions are supposed to be tablets... please stop trying to turn them into cassette types. It just... It just doesn't work.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849485)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on December 29th, 2016 @ 2:23pm CST
Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
*awesome upgrade kit*

WOOO :michaelbay:
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849486)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 29th, 2016 @ 2:24pm CST
Nexus Knight wrote:Takara-Tomy. You're awesome. You're truly and brilliantly awesome. But those minions are supposed to be tablets... please stop trying to turn them into cassette types. It just... It just doesn't work.
Look again at their screens. They still have all of the tablet display buttons and features colored in. The cassette tape designs are each tablet's wallpaper backgrounds.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849492)
Posted by Overcracker on December 29th, 2016 @ 2:50pm CST
Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg



Awesome. Was expecting something like this. Hopefully it will not be more expensive than Jinrai himself.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849497)
Posted by Emerje on December 29th, 2016 @ 3:32pm CST
Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849500)
Posted by Randomhero on December 29th, 2016 @ 3:38pm CST
Emerje wrote:
Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje



The cab is cake to take off. It's just on by a screw and plastic washer
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849501)
Posted by Burn on December 29th, 2016 @ 3:39pm CST
Emerje wrote:
Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje

Conversations best held in the 3P forums. ;)
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849506)
Posted by Emerje on December 29th, 2016 @ 3:46pm CST
Randomhero wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje



The cab is cake to take off. It's just on by a screw and plastic washer


I know, that's not the problem. The problem is they blacked out a large portion of the part that covers the cab which means they're either being misleading showing their "Jinrai" on the chest or we'll need an extra part to cover the cover so "Jinrai" has something to attach to which I can't imagine will look all that great and will be a really big piece considering how much they've blacked out.

(Oops, once again I make a post while a mod is posting not to... :oops: )

Emerje
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849513)
Posted by Overcracker on December 29th, 2016 @ 4:02pm CST
Emerje wrote:
Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje


Actually it is.

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As with Magnus and TR PMOP the cab is a separate piece, simply held in place by a single screw under the trailer. There's nothing attaching it to the trailer above it, and the transformation sequence means removing it leaves a big hole in the robot mode chest to be filled by the new Cab, which likely will be able to be removed, and folded up into a cube much like the original PMOP did.

Remove the Cab, place the new transforming one in its place and you are done. No pieces left to meddle with or cover up.

Image

The problem is they blacked out a large portion of the part that covers the cab


What large portion? The chest piece only covers the sides of the cab. Everything in the middle of the chest is part of the cab.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849515)
Posted by Overcracker on December 29th, 2016 @ 4:08pm CST
Double post...
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849548)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 29th, 2016 @ 5:51pm CST
Takara flipped on SW and Broadcast's feet. Blaster should have had the black and SW the silver.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849550)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 29th, 2016 @ 5:54pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:Takara flipped on SW and Broadcast's feet. Blaster should have had the black and SW the silver.


Blame the mold layout and the Titan Master, plus TakaraTomy's desire for a blue Twincast.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849553)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 29th, 2016 @ 6:11pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Takara flipped on SW and Broadcast's feet. Blaster should have had the black and SW the silver.


Blame the mold layout and the Titan Master, plus TakaraTomy's desire for a blue Twincast.


I'm talking about the transtector's feet.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849565)
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 29th, 2016 @ 7:32pm CST
Brainstorm, Soundwave, and Ginrai should be here in a few days. I can't wait to finish my original headmaster lineup. Anyone else find it a bit odd that Takara has been a little quiet on reveals? Like, there's only 3 figures that have been shown that haven't been released yet and there's no word on Takara doing versions of anything from Titans return wave 3.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849571)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 29th, 2016 @ 8:16pm CST
steals_your_goats wrote:Brainstorm, Soundwave, and Ginrai should be here in a few days. I can't wait to finish my original headmaster lineup. Anyone else find it a bit odd that Takara has been a little quiet on reveals? Like, there's only 3 figures that have been shown that haven't been released yet and there's no word on Takara doing versions of anything from Titans return wave 3.


Well, not just Legends but Takara has their 2017 release sched filled up until July 2017. Maybe on February we'll here about the next half of 2017 for their plans.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849574)
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 29th, 2016 @ 8:24pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:Brainstorm, Soundwave, and Ginrai should be here in a few days. I can't wait to finish my original headmaster lineup. Anyone else find it a bit odd that Takara has been a little quiet on reveals? Like, there's only 3 figures that have been shown that haven't been released yet and there's no word on Takara doing versions of anything from Titans return wave 3.


Well, not just Legends but Takara has their 2017 release sched filled up until July 2017. Maybe on February we'll here about the next half of 2017 for their plans.


I wouldn't call 3 figures "filled up". Masterpieces haven't affected legends releases in the past why would this year be any different?
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849594)
Posted by Emerje on December 30th, 2016 @ 12:56am CST
Overcracker wrote:Actually it is.

Actually it isn't, but I'm continuing the conversation over here

steals_your_goats wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:Brainstorm, Soundwave, and Ginrai should be here in a few days. I can't wait to finish my original headmaster lineup. Anyone else find it a bit odd that Takara has been a little quiet on reveals? Like, there's only 3 figures that have been shown that haven't been released yet and there's no word on Takara doing versions of anything from Titans return wave 3.


Well, not just Legends but Takara has their 2017 release sched filled up until July 2017. Maybe on February we'll here about the next half of 2017 for their plans.


I wouldn't call 3 figures "filled up". Masterpieces haven't affected legends releases in the past why would this year be any different?

January:
Unite Warriors Megatronia
LG40 Astrotrain

February:
LG41 Leo Prime
MP-34 Cheetor
MP-35 Grapple
MB-01 Optimus Prime
MB-02 Bumblebee
MB-03 Megatron
MB-04 Shockwave
MB-05 Ironhide
MB-06 Ratchet
MB-07 Soundwave
MB-08 Starscream

March:
MB-09 Dino Ride Grimlock & Optimus Prime
MB-10 Dino Ride Strafe & Bumblebee
MB-11 Movie 10th Anniversary Optimus Prime
Unite Warriors Baldigus

April:
MP-36 Megatron

May:
MP-11ND Dirge
LG42 Godbomber
MP-37 Artfire
Magna Convoy

Am I forgetting anything? A little more than 3 LGs and some MPs right? They really do have their schedule full. They haven't even announced any Adventure figures for next year. The sparse number of Legends figures (only 3 in five months) is pretty light.

Emerje
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849597)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 30th, 2016 @ 1:08am CST
fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Takara flipped on SW and Broadcast's feet. Blaster should have had the black and SW the silver.


Blame the mold layout and the Titan Master, plus TakaraTomy's desire for a blue Twincast.


I'm talking about the transtector's feet.
I think JelZe is trying to say that the plastics are gangmolded, meaning that the color of the feet was dependent on the colors of the Headmasters.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849598)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 30th, 2016 @ 1:24am CST
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Takara flipped on SW and Broadcast's feet. Blaster should have had the black and SW the silver.


Blame the mold layout and the Titan Master, plus TakaraTomy's desire for a blue Twincast.


I'm talking about the transtector's feet.
I think JelZe is trying to say that the plastics are gangmolded, meaning that the color of the feet was dependent on the colors of the Headmasters.


Actually I was thinking of the wrong parts involved, namely the blue hinges on Broadcast :oops:

The Transtector feet parts are independent from those of the Titan Master.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849600)
Posted by tumacher on December 30th, 2016 @ 3:18am CST
Hi! Here are my reviews for the Takara Legends Soundwave, Ravage, and Laserbeak:

Soundwave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32YUmw5HiX4
Ravage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-doM99EHiNo
Laserbeak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Ii9vupmVI
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849601)
Posted by Cyberpath on December 30th, 2016 @ 3:22am CST
PoweredConvoy posted the latest Legends manga --

LG36 Soundwave Bio & Manga

LG37 Ravage and Bullhorn Bio & Manga

LG38 Laserbeak and Apeface Bio & Manga

LG39 Brainstorm Bio & Manga



Can anyone explain the Apeface/Laserbeak comic?
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849606)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 30th, 2016 @ 5:57am CST
Cyberpath wrote:PoweredConvoy posted the latest Legends manga --

LG36 Soundwave Bio & Manga

LG37 Ravage and Bullhorn Bio & Manga

LG38 Laserbeak and Apeface Bio & Manga

LG39 Brainstorm Bio & Manga



Can anyone explain the Apeface/Laserbeak comic?


Ginrai?
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849609)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 30th, 2016 @ 6:52am CST
Nexus Knight wrote:Takara-Tomy. You're awesome. You're truly and brilliantly awesome. But those minions are supposed to be tablets... please stop trying to turn them into cassette types. It just... It just doesn't work.


Nothing about those minion figures work.


Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg


This is very interesting but likely adds a big chunk more expense to a figure I already likely can't afford. How big will the 'little' Optimus be? Deluxe or Voyager? Voyager would be more appropiate scale wise but I would assume it would need to be Deluxe to be small enough to fit? Anyways the lack of a smaller Optimus really put me off PM and Ginrai's base mode cos it just makes no sense having the Autobot's leader just completely lay there dormant while little Titans walk about on him. At least on the original figure it's much more obvious the base is formed just from the trailer which he can then combine with to form his super mode like a suit of armour and it's not actually him sprawled out on the ground awkwardly like Metroplex and co.

Still think Blaster and Soundwave look ridiculous being Leader class figures. If anyone knows of a scaled down to Voyager size KO for either of them let me know. Obviously probably harder to scale down than a normal TF figure due to the Titan and minion gimmicks but hey :P
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849616)
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on December 30th, 2016 @ 8:11am CST
Here the only video review of ConvoBat and Megalligator I've found. https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=Um3-YcaP3jQ
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849625)
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 30th, 2016 @ 9:53am CST
For those discussing the ability for the cab to be replaced and the cover for the bot mode chest, then, yes, the cab CAN be removed, just like Ultra magnus' can. Just like UM and PM OP, the cab front is covered by an additional chest. On Ginrai, it has the two extra "windows" on the side, and a faux Powermaster engine and cab front, too.

This is held in place by a (friction?) mounted joint at the bottom of the cover, which allows it to swivel forward and back to open it and close it during transformation. I am sure this will be replaced with either a new pice, or an additional pice. In either case, these pieces will house the new Hi-Q/Ginrai Powermaster mini-fig in engine mode. Currently, without this add-on kit, the Powermaster engine will be housed inside the existing cab in bot mode.

Hope this helps.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849630)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 30th, 2016 @ 10:49am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:For those discussing the ability for the cab to be replaced and the cover for the bot mode chest, then, yes, the cab CAN be removed, just like Ultra magnus' can. Just like UM and PM OP, the cab front is covered by an additional chest. On Ginrai, it has the two extra "windows" on the side, and a faux Powermaster engine and cab front, too.

This is held in place by a (friction?) mounted joint at the bottom of the cover, which allows it to swivel forward and back to open it and close it during transformation. I am sure this will be replaced with either a new pice, or an additional pice. In either case, these pieces will house the new Hi-Q/Ginrai Powermaster mini-fig in engine mode. Currently, without this add-on kit, the Powermaster engine will be housed inside the existing cab in bot mode.

Hope this helps.



Oh cool I must have missed the bit that says the new cab would be a proper Powermaster. Ungh now I'm gonna have to somehow afford Ginrai and then save up for that Prime cab.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849649)
Posted by Va'al on December 30th, 2016 @ 12:38pm CST
Fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath has shared the Imgur images by PoweredConvoy of the latest Takara Tomy Transformers Legends bios and accompanying comics for LG36 Soundwave, LG37 Ravage and Bullhorn, LG38 Laserbeak and Apeface, and LG39 Brainstorm. You can check them all out mirrored below, as we wait for a translation from Japanese!

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Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849651)
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on December 30th, 2016 @ 12:50pm CST
Beautiful!
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849656)
Posted by Kurona on December 30th, 2016 @ 1:01pm CST
So clearly, the most interesting thing here is Frenzy (the blue one) using the Rewind mold. Seems they've got plans.

I'm also kind of starting to like the idea of everyone being a headmaster, much as you might like to hang me up at the stake for saying that. Seeing the small Megatron and Soundblaster interact with everyone among other things gives me a sort of appreciation for the idea of them being able to go human-sized.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849678)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 30th, 2016 @ 2:11pm CST
I think it's time for the manga artist to take a cold shower. As if Wheelie's skirt-flipping antics aren't bad enough, Apeface just tears clothes off of the girls and we see Ai-chan bathing... again! :lol:
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849704)
Posted by Deadput on December 30th, 2016 @ 4:04pm CST
I see T-AI is still treated with dignity in these comics...
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849743)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 30th, 2016 @ 6:28pm CST
Deadput wrote:I see T-AI is still treated with dignity in these comics...


The Legend Universe workings. It's like a time warp to the 80s of anime with the indestructible bikini armors of that era. It's not gonna change for the sake of one or two oppositors of the vintage era.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849747)
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 30th, 2016 @ 6:38pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:For those discussing the ability for the cab to be replaced and the cover for the bot mode chest, then, yes, the cab CAN be removed, just like Ultra magnus' can. Just like UM and PM OP, the cab front is covered by an additional chest. On Ginrai, it has the two extra "windows" on the side, and a faux Powermaster engine and cab front, too.

This is held in place by a (friction?) mounted joint at the bottom of the cover, which allows it to swivel forward and back to open it and close it during transformation. I am sure this will be replaced with either a new pice, or an additional pice. In either case, these pieces will house the new Hi-Q/Ginrai Powermaster mini-fig in engine mode. Currently, without this add-on kit, the Powermaster engine will be housed inside the existing cab in bot mode.

Hope this helps.



Oh cool I must have missed the bit that says the new cab would be a proper Powermaster. Ungh now I'm gonna have to somehow afford Ginrai and then save up for that Prime cab.


There are two add-on kits. One includes rear upper thigh-fillers (similar in function the UM upgrade kit), a new, full head (with LED eyes and hopefully a ball-joined neck) and a Powermaster version of Hi-Q/Ginrai. The SECOND kit includes the base cab robot, and possibly a super-mode robot chest/adaptor for Hi-Q's/Ginrai's engine mode (I hope this also works on the cab in alt mode). If you check the picture in the OP, it states that the first kit isn't included with the new cab.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849810)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on December 31st, 2016 @ 1:27am CST
primalxconvoy wrote:
There are two add-on kits. One includes rear upper thigh-fillers (similar in function the UM upgrade kit), a new, full head (with LED eyes and hopefully a ball-joined neck) and a Powermaster version of Hi-Q/Ginrai. The SECOND kit includes the base cab robot, and possibly a super-mode robot chest/adaptor for Hi-Q's/Ginrai's engine mode (I hope this also works on the cab in alt mode). If you check the picture in the OP, it states that the first kit isn't included with the new cab.


Oh ok. Just keeps getting more expensive then... :/
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849836)
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 31st, 2016 @ 11:02am CST
Ginrai, Soundwave and brainstorm showed up today and overall I'm really happy with them.

Brainstorm is a great yet simple retool that gives him a totally new feel. Plus that face sculpt is incredible.

Soundwave is really cool and I love the changes from the Hasbro version. My only complaint is his tape door, while awesome looking, doesn't hold together very well.

And finally Ginrai. I was looking forward to him the most and if I'm being honest I'm kinda disappointed. While I have Ultra Magnus and kinda knew what to expect I was still hoping for more. Maybe it's because of all the hype leading up to his release that inflated my expectations. While he is nice and big he's got a few little things that put me off.

First and foremost his feet suckkkk. They're all fiddly and don't actually tab into anything. They don't feel complete and before the usual suspects come to defend them I know that's how they originally were and I know they are for the combination gimmick but that doesn't make them suck any less.

I also dislike the arm panels. The parts that fold up behind the forearm are fine but then there's that third panel that's longer than the rest of them that just sticks out. If they added another hinge or evened out the panels it would've been better.

Finally the new cab section. It looks great in pictures but it doesn't seem to hold together super well in hand. Maybe because the plastic is real thin it just slips easier or what but it never really sits flush.

All in all he's a good figure but he's not this perfect superior to Hasbro's version. I appreciate the changes but I think some of them could've been handled better.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849847)
Posted by william-james88 on December 31st, 2016 @ 12:37pm CST
steals_your_goats wrote: First and foremost his feet suckkkk. They're all fiddly and don't actually tab into anything. They don't feel complete and before the usual suspects come to defend them I know that's how they originally were


Ah damn, thats really too bad. Many of us thought they would suck but we were at least hoping to be proven wrong, which has been a trend lately (like MP Ironhide). But here it ends up being what we thought it would be and thats too bad.

Also, those feet are very different from the original and a completely new take on it, the original was totally different and anyone who uses that to defend for this has no clue what the original looked like. This is a new take on the feet and a bad one at that. I am very sorry you arent happy with your purchase though, especially with how expensive he was.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849849)
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 31st, 2016 @ 12:52pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote: First and foremost his feet suckkkk. They're all fiddly and don't actually tab into anything. They don't feel complete and before the usual suspects come to defend them I know that's how they originally were


Ah damn, thats really too bad. Many of us thought they would suck but we were at least hoping to be proven wrong, which has been a trend lately (like MP Ironhide). But here it ends up being what we thought it would be and thats too bad.

Also, those feet are very different from the original and a completely new take on it, the original was totally different and anyone who uses that to defend for this has no clue what the original looked like. This is a new take on the feet and a bad one at that. I am very sorry you arent happy with your purchase though, especially with how expensive he was.


I'm not totally dissatisfied with him but he definitely wasn't what I was expecting. As far as price goes though I paid $180 shipped for all three so while it's more than the Hasbro versions it's still $50 cheaper than buying off of like tfsource or something.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849867)
Posted by Relic0037 on December 31st, 2016 @ 3:32pm CST
steals_your_goats wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote: First and foremost his feet suckkkk. They're all fiddly and don't actually tab into anything. They don't feel complete and before the usual suspects come to defend them I know that's how they originally were


Ah damn, thats really too bad. Many of us thought they would suck but we were at least hoping to be proven wrong, which has been a trend lately (like MP Ironhide). But here it ends up being what we thought it would be and thats too bad.

Also, those feet are very different from the original and a completely new take on it, the original was totally different and anyone who uses that to defend for this has no clue what the original looked like. This is a new take on the feet and a bad one at that. I am very sorry you arent happy with your purchase though, especially with how expensive he was.


I'm not totally dissatisfied with him but he definitely wasn't what I was expecting. As far as price goes though I paid $180 shipped for all three so while it's more than the Hasbro versions it's still $50 cheaper than buying off of like tfsource or something.


I'm wondering how much the God Bomber add on will (hopefully) improve this figure. Of course, at the same time, for as much as he costs, Ginrai should be able to stand on his own as a good figure without it.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849873)
Posted by Emerje on December 31st, 2016 @ 4:07pm CST
Kurona wrote:So clearly, the most interesting thing here is Frenzy (the blue one) using the Rewind mold. Seems they've got plans.


They also have Wilder there, presumably from the Fangry mold, so that could be a potential two-pack with Frenzy.

Emerje
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849875)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 31st, 2016 @ 4:17pm CST
Emerje wrote:
Kurona wrote:So clearly, the most interesting thing here is Frenzy (the blue one) using the Rewind mold. Seems they've got plans.


They also have Wilder there, presumably from the Fangry mold, so that could be a potential two-pack with Frenzy.

Emerje


I should remind you all that the red one hasn't been released by TakaraTomy yet ;)
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849880)
Posted by Emerje on December 31st, 2016 @ 5:33pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Kurona wrote:So clearly, the most interesting thing here is Frenzy (the blue one) using the Rewind mold. Seems they've got plans.


They also have Wilder there, presumably from the Fangry mold, so that could be a potential two-pack with Frenzy.

Emerje


I should remind you all that the red one hasn't been released by TakaraTomy yet ;)


Oh, that's right, they've only (just) released Laserbeak and Ravage for Decepticon tapes so far. But now that Soundwave is out maybe they'll work on the rest (along with Eject, Buzzsaw, and maybe Stripes)? Then again there are a lot of other Legends figures on the way they need to work on. Perhaps Legends scale two-packs?

You know, I'm surprised we still haven't seen blind box Headmasters yet similar to what we've seen with Microns and EZ Collection for all of the heads they haven't (and probably wont) released yet.

Emerje
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849882)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 31st, 2016 @ 5:52pm CST
Emerje wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Kurona wrote:So clearly, the most interesting thing here is Frenzy (the blue one) using the Rewind mold. Seems they've got plans.


They also have Wilder there, presumably from the Fangry mold, so that could be a potential two-pack with Frenzy.

Emerje


I should remind you all that the red one hasn't been released by TakaraTomy yet ;)


Oh, that's right, they've only (just) released Laserbeak and Ravage for Decepticon tapes so far. But now that Soundwave is out maybe they'll work on the rest (along with Eject, Buzzsaw, and maybe Stripes)? Then again there are a lot of other Legends figures on the way they need to work on. Perhaps Legends scale two-packs?


Or three-packs *hint hint*

You know, I'm surprised we still haven't seen blind box Headmasters yet similar to what we've seen with Microns and EZ Collection for all of the heads they haven't (and probably wont) released yet.

Emerje


We'll have to wait and see what they'll do with these skipped heads:

Grimlock
Flywheels
Lightfoot (Getaway)
Orion Pax
Gong (Brawn)
Alpha Trin
Cerebros (US)
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849896)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 31st, 2016 @ 6:53pm CST
Relic0037 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote: First and foremost his feet suckkkk. They're all fiddly and don't actually tab into anything. They don't feel complete and before the usual suspects come to defend them I know that's how they originally were


Ah damn, thats really too bad. Many of us thought they would suck but we were at least hoping to be proven wrong, which has been a trend lately (like MP Ironhide). But here it ends up being what we thought it would be and thats too bad.

Also, those feet are very different from the original and a completely new take on it, the original was totally different and anyone who uses that to defend for this has no clue what the original looked like. This is a new take on the feet and a bad one at that. I am very sorry you arent happy with your purchase though, especially with how expensive he was.


I'm not totally dissatisfied with him but he definitely wasn't what I was expecting. As far as price goes though I paid $180 shipped for all three so while it's more than the Hasbro versions it's still $50 cheaper than buying off of like tfsource or something.


I'm wondering how much the God Bomber add on will (hopefully) improve this figure. Of course, at the same time, for as much as he costs, Ginrai should be able to stand on his own as a good figure without it.


First, just 1 feedback. If you've got one on the way, well you have to live with it purchase.

Second, no worries, Ginrai is all sold out if not on the way to being sold out. No need to spend on a clunker at secondary market prices.

Third. I have a feeling of deja vu like that of MP IH and Hotrodimus. Both were "awful" molds.

Also, here's Chick's reviews and be the judge.

chuck-s-reviews-transformers-legends-super-ginrai-p1849848.php#p1849848
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849900)
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 31st, 2016 @ 7:03pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:
Relic0037 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote: First and foremost his feet suckkkk. They're all fiddly and don't actually tab into anything. They don't feel complete and before the usual suspects come to defend them I know that's how they originally were


Ah damn, thats really too bad. Many of us thought they would suck but we were at least hoping to be proven wrong, which has been a trend lately (like MP Ironhide). But here it ends up being what we thought it would be and thats too bad.

Also, those feet are very different from the original and a completely new take on it, the original was totally different and anyone who uses that to defend for this has no clue what the original looked like. This is a new take on the feet and a bad one at that. I am very sorry you arent happy with your purchase though, especially with how expensive he was.


I'm not totally dissatisfied with him but he definitely wasn't what I was expecting. As far as price goes though I paid $180 shipped for all three so while it's more than the Hasbro versions it's still $50 cheaper than buying off of like tfsource or something.


I'm wondering how much the God Bomber add on will (hopefully) improve this figure. Of course, at the same time, for as much as he costs, Ginrai should be able to stand on his own as a good figure without it.


First, just 1 feedback. If you've got one on the way, well you have to live with it purchase.

Second, no worries, Ginrai is all sold out if not on the way to being sold out. No need to spend on a clunker at secondary market prices.

Third. I have a feeling of dejavu like that of MP IH and Hotrodimus. Both were "awful" molds.


Never once did I say it was an awful mold. I simply made comments about how there are some problems with this mold so others have realistic expectations. Not everything Takara does is perfect.
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849901)
Posted by Emerje on December 31st, 2016 @ 7:05pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
You know, I'm surprised we still haven't seen blind box Headmasters yet similar to what we've seen with Microns and EZ Collection for all of the heads they haven't (and probably wont) released yet.

Emerje


We'll have to wait and see what they'll do with these skipped heads:

Grimlock
Flywheels
Lightfoot (Getaway)
Orion Pax
Gong (Brawn)
Alpha Trin
Cerebros (US)


To say nothing of the torrent of future Titan Masters from wave 4 and beyond. Takara Tomy would never be able to keep up with their scattered release schedule.

Emerje
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849908)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 31st, 2016 @ 7:30pm CST
Emerje wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
You know, I'm surprised we still haven't seen blind box Headmasters yet similar to what we've seen with Microns and EZ Collection for all of the heads they haven't (and probably wont) released yet.

Emerje


We'll have to wait and see what they'll do with these skipped heads:

Grimlock
Flywheels
Lightfoot (Getaway)
Orion Pax
Gong (Brawn)
Alpha Trin
Cerebros (US)


To say nothing of the torrent of future Titan Masters from wave 4 and beyond. Takara Tomy would never be able to keep up with their scattered release schedule.

Emerje


That's why they skip ;)

Out of the future releases, I'm expecting these releases to be held back or skipped:

Titan Master Class
Sawback (until Shuffler and the rumored Trizer are released)
Brawn (see below)
Overboard (redeco? Skip!)

Legends Class
Roadburn (aka Chase, Freeway or Searchlight/Looklight, depending on who you ask)
Brawn (unless there's a pretooled Outback head in there)

Deluxe Class
Breakaway

Voyager Class
Optimus Prime (in favor of Octane/Octone)
Megatron (in favor of Blitzwing)
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849909)
Posted by Kurona on December 31st, 2016 @ 7:39pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Emerje wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
You know, I'm surprised we still haven't seen blind box Headmasters yet similar to what we've seen with Microns and EZ Collection for all of the heads they haven't (and probably wont) released yet.

Emerje


We'll have to wait and see what they'll do with these skipped heads:

Grimlock
Flywheels
Lightfoot (Getaway)
Orion Pax
Gong (Brawn)
Alpha Trin
Cerebros (US)


To say nothing of the torrent of future Titan Masters from wave 4 and beyond. Takara Tomy would never be able to keep up with their scattered release schedule.

Emerje


That's why they skip ;)

Out of the future releases, I'm expecting these releases to be held back or skipped:

Titan Master Class
Sawback (until Shuffler and the rumored Trizer are released)
Brawn (see below)
Overboard (redeco? Skip!)

Legends Class
Roadburn (aka Chase, Freeway or Searchlight/Looklight, depending on who you ask)
Brawn (unless there's a pretooled Outback head in there)

Deluxe Class
Breakaway

Voyager Class
Optimus Prime (in favor of Octane/Octone)
Megatron (in favor of Blitzwing)

Wait, why would they skip Brawn?

In any case, yeah, I'd expect most redecoes to be skipped unless it's something that was a redeco originally like Rewind > Eject or Brawn > Outback. Everyone's saying 'wait on Takara's Megatron!!!' but I just don't see it happening.

I could also totally see them skipping Clobber. Maybe?
Re: In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak (1849925)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 31st, 2016 @ 10:05pm CST
steals_your_goats wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Relic0037 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote: First and foremost his feet suckkkk. They're all fiddly and don't actually tab into anything. They don't feel complete and before the usual suspects come to defend them I know that's how they originally were


Ah damn, thats really too bad. Many of us thought they would suck but we were at least hoping to be proven wrong, which has been a trend lately (like MP Ironhide). But here it ends up being what we thought it would be and thats too bad.

Also, those feet are very different from the original and a completely new take on it, the original was totally different and anyone who uses that to defend for this has no clue what the original looked like. This is a new take on the feet and a bad one at that. I am very sorry you arent happy with your purchase though, especially with how expensive he was.


I'm not totally dissatisfied with him but he definitely wasn't what I was expecting. As far as price goes though I paid $180 shipped for all three so while it's more than the Hasbro versions it's still $50 cheaper than buying off of like tfsource or something.


I'm wondering how much the God Bomber add on will (hopefully) improve this figure. Of course, at the same time, for as much as he costs, Ginrai should be able to stand on his own as a good figure without it.


First, just 1 feedback. If you've got one on the way, well you have to live with it purchase.

Second, no worries, Ginrai is all sold out if not on the way to being sold out. No need to spend on a clunker at secondary market prices.

Third. I have a feeling of dejavu like that of MP IH and Hotrodimus. Both were "awful" molds.


Never once did I say it was an awful mold. I simply made comments about how there are some problems with this mold so others have realistic expectations. Not everything Takara does is perfect.


I never said Takara's versions are perfect (MP TRacks and UW Blastoff are examples though less on the latter). As I also mentioned, one view on what could be half glass empty and full is purely subjective ( on whatever perceived flaws of the mold ).

I will repeat again, wait for a while, just like the two MP examples I mentioned, for the mold to settle in and be appreciated.

Iirc,even MP WJ, when first revealed, quite a vocal number where dissing it too. Same with IH and Hotrodimus. Well MP WJ is just perfect (though I kind of prefer Exhaust's head over WJ's) IH would have had been near flawless too ( no issue with the butt wheels)if not for the cheapo thin chrome on his front bumper.

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