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[fenrir72]

Wipe is not in the Legends Universe too? What's he doing back bruising up Ginrai? He wasn't affected by the black ball bomb(Wipe I mean)? Someone please translate Vipe's comic too.

You asked about Ginrai, not Wipe. Wipe got sent to the Legends Universe. Super robot lifeform God Ginrai didn't.

So where's the sentient transtector Ginrai then?

In. The. G. Nebula. 89! How is that so hard to understand?

Look at him right there, in the middle-right panel:



Human Ginrai = in the Legends World somehow with a brand-spanking new lifeless Super Ginrai Transtector that he's now bonded to.

Living super robot lifeform God Ginrai = in the G Nebula 89 of the main Japanese G1 cartoon universe, still sporting his original Masterforce cartoon body and which he will still have when he goes on to appear in the Victory cartoon.

You did take a look at Alfes' mini spoilers eh? As I'm discussing about Ginrai. In Wipe's comic, Devil Z possessed his transtector. In Alfes' spoilers of the comic, Ginrai is NOW in the Legends universe. Not G Nebula.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

OK, maybe a change in viewpoint is needed.

First of all, a recap: at the end of SGMF all Transtectors were given proper life, and separated from their human components. In other words, the Transtector, now a true Super Robot Lifeform, and the human are now considered separate entities (and have separate wiki entries). That's how we got Goshooter with Gō Shūta as a previous Generations release: the living Transtector, and human in one release.

Let's assume the Legends Universe is set before where Victory normally would be, before 2025 (or follows the Manga continuity that has God Ginrai and Victory Leo unrelated). At that point in time, God Ginrai the living Transtector is stationed in G Nebula 89, while the human remains on Earth. The latter stumbles upon a redesigned Transtector in the Legends Universe, and bonds with it.

Of course, this now means there are two separate Ginrais in robotic bodies:

1) the original, now living Transtector
2) the human, that bonded with a new lifeless Transtector

[Sabrblade]

You did take a look at Alfes' mini spoilers eh? As I'm discussing about Ginrai. In Wipe's comic, Devil Z possessed his transtector. In Alfes' spoilers of the comic, Ginrai is NOW in the Legends universe. Not G Nebula.

That Ginrai in your pics from Alfes is the human Ginrai with a brand new lifeless Transtector, not the living robot Ginrai born from the human's previous Transtector. The human Ginrai somehow ends up in the Legends World after Masterforce and gets a new Transtector there, while the non-human living robot God Ginrai is at the same time still in his (and the human Ginrai's) native home universe over in the G Nebula 89 with his team of other non-human living robot Autobots. So as JelZe explained, there are now two Ginrais coexisting at the same time.

[fenrir72]

You did take a look at Alfes' mini spoilers eh? As I'm discussing about Ginrai. In Wipe's comic, Devil Z possessed his transtector. In Alfes' spoilers of the comic, Ginrai is NOW in the Legends universe. Not G Nebula.

That Ginrai in your pics from Alfes is the human Ginrai with a brand new lifeless Transtector, not the living robot Ginrai born from the human's previous Transtector. The human Ginrai somehow ends up in the Legends World after Masterforce and gets a new Transtector there, while the non-human living robot God Ginrai is at the same time still in his (and the human Ginrai's) native home universe over in the G Nebula 89 with his team of other non-human living robot Autobots. So as JelZe explained, there are now two Ginrais coexisting at the same time.

As I said. I've discussing about human Ginrai who is now in the Legends universe as seen in Alfes' teaser. Never once did I mention that this is the sentient transtector who I've been looking for ever since this line re-introduced the godmaster with the soft fleshy center.The sentient Ginrai has no need of a secondary operator anymore.

As for the theory there are now two godmaster versions, well that's still a theory until Takara clarifies it.

[Sabrblade]

As I said. I've discussing about human Ginrai who is now in the Legends universe as seen in Alfes' teaser. Never once did I mention that this is the sentient transtector who I've been looking for ever since this line re-introduced the godmaster with the soft fleshy center.The sentient Ginrai has no need of a secondary operator anymore.

As for the theory there are now two godmaster versions, well that's still a theory until Takara clarifies it.

I didn't say two Godmaster versions, I just said two Ginrais.

And you were the one asking about the non-human living Transtector back when you first asked this:

Whatever happened to the sentient transtector post SGMF!

And this:

Now I want to know what happened to the sentient transtector Ginrai then?

And this:

I know that. But what happened to him (Ginrai the transtector not the Godmaster) in this "Legends" universe. This happens in between SGMF and TFV.

If you were talking about the human Ginrai the whole time and not the separate living Transtector non-human Ginrai, your words led us astray.

[Va'al]

Via usual toy photography suspect tagoal on Twitter, we have some in-hand images of the Takara Tomy Legends version of the Transformers Titans Return leader class LG36 Soundwave, with LG37 Ravage and LG38 Laserbeak cassetticons (plus Headmasters accompanying them), and a couple of comparisons with the Hasbro release of the three. Check them all out mirrored below!

[Randomhero]

I caved and ordered Ginrai. Perfectly happy with PM Optimus but god bomber really sealed the deal. Hope he comes next week.

[Autobot N]

For those buying Ginrai:

[Nexus Knight]

Takara-Tomy. You're awesome. You're truly and brilliantly awesome. But those minions are supposed to be tablets... please stop trying to turn them into cassette types. It just... It just doesn't work.

[Sigma Magnus]

For those buying Ginrai:
*awesome upgrade kit*

WOOO

[Sabrblade]

Takara-Tomy. You're awesome. You're truly and brilliantly awesome. But those minions are supposed to be tablets... please stop trying to turn them into cassette types. It just... It just doesn't work.

Look again at their screens. They still have all of the tablet display buttons and features colored in. The cassette tape designs are each tablet's wallpaper backgrounds.

[Overcracker]

For those buying Ginrai:

PC-16.jpg

Awesome. Was expecting something like this. Hopefully it will not be more expensive than Jinrai himself.

[Emerje]

For those buying Ginrai:

PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje

[Randomhero]

For those buying Ginrai:

PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje

The cab is cake to take off. It's just on by a screw and plastic washer

[Burn]

For those buying Ginrai:

PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje

Conversations best held in the 3P forums.

[Emerje]

For those buying Ginrai:

PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje

The cab is cake to take off. It's just on by a screw and plastic washer

I know, that's not the problem. The problem is they blacked out a large portion of the part that covers the cab which means they're either being misleading showing their "Jinrai" on the chest or we'll need an extra part to cover the cover so "Jinrai" has something to attach to which I can't imagine will look all that great and will be a really big piece considering how much they've blacked out.

(Oops, once again I make a post while a mod is posting not to... )

Emerje

[Overcracker]

For those buying Ginrai:

PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje

Actually it is.



As with Magnus and TR PMOP the cab is a separate piece, simply held in place by a single screw under the trailer. There's nothing attaching it to the trailer above it, and the transformation sequence means removing it leaves a big hole in the robot mode chest to be filled by the new Cab, which likely will be able to be removed, and folded up into a cube much like the original PMOP did.

Remove the Cab, place the new transforming one in its place and you are done. No pieces left to meddle with or cover up.

The problem is they blacked out a large portion of the part that covers the cab

What large portion? The chest piece only covers the sides of the cab. Everything in the middle of the chest is part of the cab.

[Overcracker]

Double post...

[fenrir72]

Takara flipped on SW and Broadcast's feet. Blaster should have had the black and SW the silver.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Takara flipped on SW and Broadcast's feet. Blaster should have had the black and SW the silver.

Blame the mold layout and the Titan Master, plus TakaraTomy's desire for a blue Twincast.

[fenrir72]

Takara flipped on SW and Broadcast's feet. Blaster should have had the black and SW the silver.

Blame the mold layout and the Titan Master, plus TakaraTomy's desire for a blue Twincast.

I'm talking about the transtector's feet.

[steals_your_goats]

Brainstorm, Soundwave, and Ginrai should be here in a few days. I can't wait to finish my original headmaster lineup. Anyone else find it a bit odd that Takara has been a little quiet on reveals? Like, there's only 3 figures that have been shown that haven't been released yet and there's no word on Takara doing versions of anything from Titans return wave 3.

[fenrir72]

Brainstorm, Soundwave, and Ginrai should be here in a few days. I can't wait to finish my original headmaster lineup. Anyone else find it a bit odd that Takara has been a little quiet on reveals? Like, there's only 3 figures that have been shown that haven't been released yet and there's no word on Takara doing versions of anything from Titans return wave 3.

Well, not just Legends but Takara has their 2017 release sched filled up until July 2017. Maybe on February we'll here about the next half of 2017 for their plans.

[steals_your_goats]

Brainstorm, Soundwave, and Ginrai should be here in a few days. I can't wait to finish my original headmaster lineup. Anyone else find it a bit odd that Takara has been a little quiet on reveals? Like, there's only 3 figures that have been shown that haven't been released yet and there's no word on Takara doing versions of anything from Titans return wave 3.

Well, not just Legends but Takara has their 2017 release sched filled up until July 2017. Maybe on February we'll here about the next half of 2017 for their plans.

I wouldn't call 3 figures "filled up". Masterpieces haven't affected legends releases in the past why would this year be any different?

[Emerje]

Actually it is.

Actually it isn't, but I'm continuing the conversation over here

Brainstorm, Soundwave, and Ginrai should be here in a few days. I can't wait to finish my original headmaster lineup. Anyone else find it a bit odd that Takara has been a little quiet on reveals? Like, there's only 3 figures that have been shown that haven't been released yet and there's no word on Takara doing versions of anything from Titans return wave 3.

Well, not just Legends but Takara has their 2017 release sched filled up until July 2017. Maybe on February we'll here about the next half of 2017 for their plans.

I wouldn't call 3 figures "filled up". Masterpieces haven't affected legends releases in the past why would this year be any different?

January:
Unite Warriors Megatronia
LG40 Astrotrain

February:
LG41 Leo Prime
MP-34 Cheetor
MP-35 Grapple
MB-01 Optimus Prime
MB-02 Bumblebee
MB-03 Megatron
MB-04 Shockwave
MB-05 Ironhide
MB-06 Ratchet
MB-07 Soundwave
MB-08 Starscream

March:
MB-09 Dino Ride Grimlock & Optimus Prime
MB-10 Dino Ride Strafe & Bumblebee
MB-11 Movie 10th Anniversary Optimus Prime
Unite Warriors Baldigus

April:
MP-36 Megatron

May:
MP-11ND Dirge
LG42 Godbomber
MP-37 Artfire
Magna Convoy

Am I forgetting anything? A little more than 3 LGs and some MPs right? They really do have their schedule full. They haven't even announced any Adventure figures for next year. The sparse number of Legends figures (only 3 in five months) is pretty light.

Emerje