In Hand Images of Prime Wars Punch / Counterpuch with Prima Prime

Well, still, a good find! Maybe you can let the news crew know so if they haven't posted them yet, it'll give them something to do.

Those images are making me reconsider getting the figure.

Wait.

Sorry.

Glad I ordered 3.

To be fair, when in counter punch mode he can always claim he stole the gun from Punch

He's looking very nice.

Wireless_Phantom wrote:I wish he either had a bigger gun in a color that was more neutral to better suit use in both modes, or he came with another gun cast in blue to suit the decepticon mode.

Doesn't he also come with Prime Armor since he's a POTP figure?

carytheone wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Serious questions guys, if soneone gives you a toy you already have as present, you would not go to a department store and ask if you could exchange it for one you dont have yet? Dont know if you yanks have this sort of thing, but Toysrus in Canada has a return policy specifically for exchanges concerning gifts with no accompanying receipt. Nothing really shady there.

Of course and around the holidays stores tend to print a gift receipt. And if not try and hit the store it came from. They give you credit and send the unopened toy back to the shelves. Most stores will accept exchanges without receipts if the item is in their system. Walmart takes all your personal info in these cases. Probably to track how often you do this

Yeah, toysrus does that too. Ok, so if you guys do have that system in place, i see no issue with returning the rest of that case to Wal-Mart, just imagine your uncle Ben Barnes The Second gave you a bunch you already have. Plus you would help stock the shelves of your department store with POTP toys

Looks great, especially like the way they have done the hands. A few gaps in his legs but they do not look bad in the photos. I should have ordered two but really glad that I could order it and get it for slightly above retail unlike most other exclusives, I would probably have put rub labels on one of them, definitely going on the shelf next to Scorponok and crew to spy on what ever they are up to.

Looking at these pics makes me want to order a second one so I can have him in his robot modes on both my Autobot and Decepticon Headmaster shelves (I'm sure Hasbro would love that). I would just have to trade guns with someone else for his con mode.

He looks really good, can't wait for mine to show up. That said I wish he had been a mass retail figure just so we could have gotten a Deadlock/Drift retool. Yeah I know Drift is still disliked but you gotta admit that mold would have suited him really well.

RiddlerJ wrote:

Wireless_Phantom wrote:I wish he either had a bigger gun in a color that was more neutral to better suit use in both modes, or he came with another gun cast in blue to suit the decepticon mode.

Doesn't he also come with Prime Armor since he's a POTP figure?

He's PotP in name only. He's not a Combiner limb as he's missing the peg, thus does not come with any HFG or Prime Armor piece.

I may have to ask my wife to get both Repugnus and Punch...

Punch looks so good!!!!

The black being a sort of dark speckled almost gun metal gray is an interesting choice. You couldn't tell that from the stock photos and I don't hate it.

I still want to see what's under the faction symbol panels. I'm guessing nothing, it seems like if it were peg holes (or anything else interesting) this person would have taken a photo of that.

Can't wait, only a few more weeks to go!

Emerje

Emerje wrote:The black being a sort of dark speckled almost gun metal gray is an interesting choice. You couldn't tell that from the stock photos and I don't hate it.

I still want to see what's under the faction symbol panels. I'm guessing nothing, it seems like if it were peg holes (or anything else interesting) this person would have taken a photo of that.

Can't wait, only a few more weeks to go!

Emerje

I'm guessing they hust fold down so when he's walking down the Hall some Con doesn't go "Autobot!!" and shoot him in the back

I really can't wait to get Punch/CP!

Flashwave wrote:

Emerje wrote:The black being a sort of dark speckled almost gun metal gray is an interesting choice. You couldn't tell that from the stock photos and I don't hate it.

I still want to see what's under the faction symbol panels. I'm guessing nothing, it seems like if it were peg holes (or anything else interesting) this person would have taken a photo of that.

Can't wait, only a few more weeks to go!

Emerje

I'm guessing they hust fold down so when he's walking down the Hall some Con doesn't go "Autobot!!" and shoot him in the back

Oh, no doubt that's what they're for, but we haven't seen any shots of either bot from behind yet to see what's going on there. If there's no peg hole then they really missed the opportunity to at least partially incorporate these into PotP. Ultimately I don't really care, I don't use the Prime Armor like that anyway and wouldn't spare one for him to use, but seems like something they would have done if they had always intended for this to be a PotP mold.

Emerje

Pointblank, why are you dressed up like Counterpunch?

Yes, I know that CP had the look first.

The vehicle mode looks like it's a Camaro mixed with an Aston Martin frame. Nice!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:He's not a Combiner limb as he's missing the peg

This is true.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:thus does not come with any HFG or Prime Armor piece.

This is false.

He comes with a prime armour or HFG? None of the pictures have shown him with one or the other

ZeroWolf wrote:He comes with a prime armour or HFG? None of the pictures have shown him with one or the other

From TFW, also in the gallery of the facebook page linked in the news post.


And Planet Iacon took some in-box photos


Clearly comes with Prime Armor.

That's fair enough it was just that there had been no pictures mirrored on here that shown the prime armour.

Huh.

Amazon wrote:The 5.5-inch scale Deluxe Class figure comes with a 1.5-scale Prima Prime Master figure and a Prime Armor accessory. Insert the Prime Master figure into the accessory, attach it to the figure's chest, and imagine Punch wields the power of a Prime.

I think at the time we thought this was an error since there were no pictures of it coming with the armor or interacting with it, but I guess the description is correct.

Emerje

I think I finally found my preferred configuration for Abominus:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I think I finally found my preferred configuration for Abominus:

Very interesting, especially since its the opposite to the cartoon

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I think I finally found my preferred configuration for Abominus:

Mine is almost the same, except the arms are the opposite.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I think I finally found my preferred configuration for Abominus:

Very interesting, especially since its the opposite to the cartoon

but its also the same configuration as the transformers prime beasthunters cyberverse abominus, almost

Rodimus Prime wrote:Mine is almost the same, except the arms are the opposite.

And Yeah, the Prime Beast Hunters version was the first version of Abominus I saw, so hearing about the G1 configuration was a bit of a shock, and it was the way I tried to combine my G1 Terrorcons the first time and had to nope that off.

I prefer it as well because the flying guy looks better as an arm in most combiners, and funny enough, on all 3 Beast combiners I have from PotP, the flying guy is the right arm. And Blot and Rippersnapper make much more solid legs and forms kneepads. And Sinnertwin's gun makes for good symmetry with Cutthroat's bird head.

Be back in a few, gonna take a pic of the 3 beasts together

The faction symbols on P/CP flip down and there are peg holes for the armor. The only point of concern I have, and this is forcing myself to find something, is how much clear plastic is used in load bearing areas.

BEAST COMBINERS!!



AND ABOMINI!!!!

Oh thank god it's the Jazz hand mold. That means (if the faction symbols do indeed fold down and reveal a port) We can actually give him a jet-pack for either form

Am I the only one getting lolz from the fact that G1 Abby's head is bigger than PotP Abby's head?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I think I finally found my preferred configuration for Abominus:

I think I might swap Blot and Sinnertwin. That way all of the limbs archetypes have a use between Volcanicus and Abominus. But your setup is pretty solid.

I am waiting for a third party sword or axe to give Volcanicus. Kinda just want to get the G1 weapons for Abominus. I use Onslaught's rifle for Bruticus, and that works decently well.

My Novastar is coming from Amazon already, so my Elita Infinite will be 4/5 done. Waiting on Wreck-Gar to complete that one.

I might need to get one of the Combiner Wars Aerialbots to convert into a Decepticon (likely Air Raid) to make King Starscream complete. The addition of Take Off makes this an easier venture.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The faction symbols on P/CP flip down and there are peg holes for the armor. The only point of concern I have, and this is forcing myself to find something, is how much clear plastic is used in load bearing areas.

I don't think you'll need to worry too much about that. The clear plastic windows are separate from the frame they're in. In other words, it's not a whole clear plastic piece painted over like they did with Jazz.

Now that we know that Punch/Counterpunch indeed comes with "Prime Armor" and can interact with the Prime Masters in exactly the same way as the other Deluxe class figures can in this line, does that change the opinions of the naysayers who claimed Punch/Counterpunch isn't a "real" Power of the Primes figure?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The faction symbols on P/CP flip down and there are peg holes for the armor. The only point of concern I have, and this is forcing myself to find something, is how much clear plastic is used in load bearing areas.

I don't think you'll need to worry too much about that. The clear plastic windows are separate from the frame they're in. In other words, it's not a whole clear plastic piece painted over like they did with Jazz.

I still can't believe mine didn't break.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:BEAST COMBINERS!!



AND ABOMINI!!!!

Nice I especially like the abominus family photo

william-james88 wrote:Serious questions guys, if soneone gives you a toy you already have as present, you would not go to a department store and ask if you could exchange it for one you dont have yet? Dont know if you yanks have this sort of thing, but Toysrus in Canada has a return policy specifically for exchanges concerning gifts with no accompanying receipt. Nothing really shady there.

It's a complete pain if there is no receipt, and that includes Amazon. Usually they'll give you the lowest price within the last 30 days or whatever. Amazon will go the extra mile and look up the order. So the good thing is you'll get the price paid. Bad thing is it's uncommon for them to do and you gotta make sure the giver isn't alerted. One of the few things Amazon customer service isn't good at in my experience.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Now that we know that Punch/Counterpunch indeed comes with "Prime Armor" and can interact with the Prime Masters in exactly the same way as the other Deluxe class figures can in this line, does that change the opinions of the naysayers who claimed Punch/Counterpunch isn't a "real" Power of the Primes figure?

Nope, if anything, it makes it more ridiculous. Why come with a Hand/Heel Support if it can't be an arm or a leg?... . Even with all this, I'm not saying people shouldn't like the figure, or get it if they want it. It's just an aberration that would have fit much better in Siege than PotP. It doesn't fit in my combiner system, so I have no desire to acquire this figure.

o.supreme wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Now that we know that Punch/Counterpunch indeed comes with "Prime Armor" and can interact with the Prime Masters in exactly the same way as the other Deluxe class figures can in this line, does that change the opinions of the naysayers who claimed Punch/Counterpunch isn't a "real" Power of the Primes figure?

Nope, if anything, it makes it more ridiculous. Why come with a Hand/Heel Support if it can't be an arm or a leg?... . Even with all this, I'm not saying people shouldn't like the figure, or get it if they want it. It's just an aberration that would have fit much better in Siege than PotP. It doesn't fit in my combiner system, so I have no desire to acquire this figure.

Because it allows this figure to actually use a prime master like the ones he comes with. He wouldnt fit in siege at all.

ZeroWolf wrote:Because it allows this figure to actually use a prime master like the ones he comes with. He wouldnt fit in siege at all.

Take away the Prime Master (which isn't integral to him anyway), and make his exterior bumpy/battle damaged.

o.supreme wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Because it allows this figure to actually use a prime master like the ones he comes with. He wouldnt fit in siege at all.

Take away the Prime Master (which isn't integral to him anyway), and make his exterior bumpy/battle damaged.

Ah, so you admit that the figure does have to be changed from how it currently is in order for it to fit the Siege aesthetic, meaning that it doesn't presently conform to the Siege aesthetic.

It would need a bit more than that I would have thought still it is what hasbro says it is.

Sabrblade wrote:Ah, so you admit that the figure does have to be changed from how it currently is in order for it to fit the Siege aesthetic, meaning that it doesn't presently conform to the Siege aesthetic.

Umm...sure, whatever, as long as ya'll also agree P/CP doesn't conform to the PotP aesthetic, (NOT a LIMB) we can agree to disagree. In any case comparing P/CP to say Siege Sideswipe (which doesn't appear to have battle damage or a Cybertronian mode), I retract my last statement.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Because it allows this figure to actually use a prime master like the ones he comes with. He wouldnt fit in siege at all.

Take away the Prime Master (which isn't integral to him anyway), and make his exterior bumpy/battle damaged.

Ah, so you admit that the figure does have to be changed from how it currently is in order for it to fit the Siege aesthetic, meaning that it doesn't presently conform to the Siege aesthetic.

Not necessarily. He could be really good at dodging blasts and physical assault and thus have an unblemished paint job.

Regardless of category, I'm just grateful Hasbro found some avenue to release them. They're some true fan favorites. (boxed exclusives like Punch... plus Wreck-Gar, etc.)

It somehow still feels like the POTP line got cut short, though maybe Hasbro has a plan to eventually release: missing limbs for Starscream and Elita-Inf1nite .... combiners like Monstructor, Piranacon, Dinoking...) I know many of us are still wondering about them.

Heck, I'd take a 4-pack of G1 seekers from the Unite Warrior mold. (By preference with Hotlink/clone as the fourth limb).

It really makes me miss Botcon and the Club right about now. That was a great route to direct obscure characters and those missing from the role call. Placing my fleeting hopes in TakaraTomy Mall, eHobby, store exclusives...

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Because it allows this figure to actually use a prime master like the ones he comes with. He wouldnt fit in siege at all.

Take away the Prime Master (which isn't integral to him anyway), and make his exterior bumpy/battle damaged.

Ah, so you admit that the figure does have to be changed from how it currently is in order for it to fit the Siege aesthetic, meaning that it doesn't presently conform to the Siege aesthetic.

Not necessarily. He could be really good at dodging blasts and physical assault and thus have an unblemished paint job.

Nah, "battle damage" is just the trendy thing all the bots are into now, like tribal arm bands. Once the fad is over they will all have the regrets.

Here's to hoping the battle damage wipes off with rubbing alcohol

To be fair, they are fighting a war, you can't stay clean doing that I mean would you prefer moulded battle damage

I'm open to battle damage molding and paint, but only if the design gets really gritty and Battletech looking. I'd love to see some missile batteries, launchers, etc.

ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, they are fighting a war, you can't stay clean doing that I mean would you prefer moulded battle damage

Neither

gothsaurus wrote:Regardless of category, I'm just grateful Hasbro found some avenue to release them. They're some true fan favorites. (boxed exclusives like Punch... plus Wreck-Gar, etc.)

It somehow still feels like the POTP line got cut short, though maybe Hasbro has a plan to eventually release: missing limbs for Starscream and Elita-Inf1nite .... combiners like Monstructor, Piranacon, Dinoking...) I know many of us are still wondering about them.

Heck, I'd take a 4-pack of G1 seekers from the Unite Warrior mold. (By preference with Hotlink/clone as the fourth limb).

It really makes me miss Botcon and the Club right about now. That was a great route to direct obscure characters and those missing from the role call. Placing my fleeting hopes in TakaraTomy Mall, eHobby, store exclusives...

In regards to the club, did you get that Unite Warriors Starscream redeco they released? Thats why I dont miss the club one bit, inorder to get that figure (even though one would hope for a thundercracker instead of a SG Starscream), you have to get the subscriptions filled with other overpriced figures you dont want.

Anyways, I dont think the line was cut short, and the torsos having no dedicated limbs is instead to me indication that they are being transparent in there being no rhyme or reason to this. Its just characters they had not released yet in the Generations line and they had gotten feedback that their combining gimmick worked well so it was give to everyone so that any kid or parent could buy toys from the line on the shelf and have the option of combinging it together.

If there was any semblance of limb dedication or extra teams, Takara would have done something, even release them in the same wave (which they did for Abominus and Volcanicus) but they didnt even do that and instead released starscream with only the following 3 limbs in his wave : moonracer, dreadwind and blackwing.

So yeah doesnt seem cut short at all, just seems random and its no different than making everone a headmaster in the same line so that random characters can interact with eachother.

Now, while i dont think there was more planned for mass retail, there were definite plans for other boxsets or exclusives. There are definite hints at mosntructor or dinoking and part of me still thinks those boxsets will come out.

william-james88 wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:Regardless of category, I'm just grateful Hasbro found some avenue to release them. They're some true fan favorites. (boxed exclusives like Punch... plus Wreck-Gar, etc.)

It somehow still feels like the POTP line got cut short, though maybe Hasbro has a plan to eventually release: missing limbs for Starscream and Elita-Inf1nite .... combiners like Monstructor, Piranacon, Dinoking...) I know many of us are still wondering about them.

Heck, I'd take a 4-pack of G1 seekers from the Unite Warrior mold. (By preference with Hotlink/clone as the fourth limb).

It really makes me miss Botcon and the Club right about now. That was a great route to direct obscure characters and those missing from the role call. Placing my fleeting hopes in TakaraTomy Mall, eHobby, store exclusives...

In regards to the club, did you get that Unite Warriors Starscream redeco they released? Thats why I dont miss the club one bit, inorder to get that figure (even though one would hope for a thundercracker instead of a SG Starscream), you have to get the subscriptions filled with other overpriced figures you dont want.

Anyways, I dont think the line was cut short, and the torsos having no dedicated limbs is instead to me indication that they are being transparent in there being no rhyme or reason to this. Its just characters they had not released yet in the Generations line and they had gotten feedback that their combining gimmick worked well so it was give to everyone so that any kid or parent could buy toys from the line on the shelf and have the option of combinging it together.

If there was any semblance of limb dedication or extra teams, Takara would have done something, even release them in the same wave (which they did for Abominus and Volcanicus) but they didnt even do that and instead released starscream with only the following 3 limbs in his wave : moonracer, dreadwind and blackwing.

So yeah doesnt seem cut short at all, just seems random and its no different than making everone a headmaster in the same line so that random characters can interact with eachother.

Now, while i dont think there was more planned for mass retail, there were definite plans for other boxsets or exclusives. There are definite hints at mosntructor or dinoking and part of me still thinks those boxsets will come out.

You've put it better than I could ever hope to.