Images of Hot Rod and Onslaught Toys from Transformers: The Last Knight Turns Out to be Fake

Autobot N wrote:Hot Rod's chest definitely reminds me of AOE Lockdown, but I'm not gonna jump to any conclusions. Don't recognize what Onslaught could be from.

This:


Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Long Haul Gallery

Same torso

william-james88 wrote:Same torso

That's where the similarities end, though.

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Same torso

That's where the similarities end, though.

There is more. the shape and angle of the arms and the way the truck parts wrap around the thighs is the same as Long Haul.

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Same torso

That's where the similarities end, though.

There is more. the shape and angle of the arms and the way the truck parts wrap around the thighs is the same as Long Haul.

i saw that too
is nitro a retool of anyone.

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Same torso

That's where the similarities end, though.

There is more. the shape and angle of the arms and the way the truck parts wrap around the thighs is the same as Long Haul.

Yeah, I'll give you those, now that I look at it more. I'd say he's probably a heavy retool.

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Same torso

That's where the similarities end, though.

There is more. the shape and angle of the arms and the way the truck parts wrap around the thighs is the same as Long Haul.

Yeah, I'll give you those, now that I look at it more. I'd say he's probably a heavy retool.

it might not even be a retool. I was just saying who it could be if it was

And Nitro seems to be an original mold (although I think he is based on a leftover of the AOE line that never made it to production).

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Same torso

That's where the similarities end, though.

There is more. the shape and angle of the arms and the way the truck parts wrap around the thighs is the same as Long Haul.

Yeah, I'll give you those, now that I look at it more. I'd say he's probably a heavy retool.

it might not even be a retool. I was just saying who it could be if it was

And Nitro seems to be an original mold (although I think he is based on a leftover of the AOE line that never made it to production).

Though, the design that both Nitro and the KSI Boss are based on was originally a tutorial DVD design created by Josh Nizzi back in 2009.

I'll be rather surprised if Hot Rod isn't a retool of or doesn't share parts with Bumblebee.

Onslaught is almost certainly a Long Haul retool, Hot Rod reminds me of Roadbuster from DOTM, maybe Nitro IS a Shockwave retool as well.

If Onslaught's a Long Haul retool, his transformation would have to be totally different now. It's not impossible, but he'd have to be basically backwards and probably do a couple other odd tricks (I'm not sure where the actual crane come it)...

Sabrblade wrote:Though, the design that both Nitro and the KSI Boss are based on was originally a tutorial DVD design created by Josh Nizzi back in 2009.

Heh, I remember seeing that on his site listed under, like, "Personal Projects" or something obviously separate from Transformers, back during DotM or something. It was a little surreal seeing it posted again as "new" when the Age of Extinction concept art first started making the rounds.

They've been in Norway for a while. It's pretty weird, really, because all the TLK Deluxe Class figures in wave 1 are here, (as well as all of the Legends/Legions from wave 1) but the only Voyager is Grimlock... Optimus is no-where to be seen.

Strange seeing so many retools used strictly as exclusives, especially for key movie characters. Most likely these versions of Hotrod, Onslaught, and Nitro are repaints of figures that will be available in the main line. The rest, probably not. That's a pretty unusual thing for Hasbro to do.

As for Onslaught being a backwards Longhaul, don't forget that they're using that same trick with the new Drift being a backwards AOE Drift.

Emerje

Hot Rod looks rather like Cogman to me.

Does anybody else find it a bit odd that Onslaught is green? I would've understood blue. Gray would've made the most sense to me, as it would fit in with the movie aesthetic.

Anyway, let's hope we get the other Combaticons. It wouldn't be the first Onslaught we've gotten that didn't combine...



https://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/view/classics-universe/onslaught/1550/1/88/

I'm just glad we are getting an Onslaught... I don't care if it is an exclusive or a retool, just happy one is being released.

Emerje wrote:Strange seeing so many retools used strictly as exclusives, especially for key movie characters. Most likely these versions of Hotrod, Onslaught, and Nitro are repaints of figures that will be available in the main line. The rest, probably not. That's a pretty unusual thing for Hasbro to do.

Emerje

its unusual, i will give you that. it was unusual for RID Starscream which was TRU exclusive at first. But he was eventually released wide (months later).

but here, what is odd is that we all know the rundown of all main line figures (in code names) and that list has been confirmed by multiple sources around the planet. Its the same breakdown everytime and the only one left unknown is one deluxe. and that list doesnt include these exclusives. So it really seems like they wont get a wide release. Could be worse, all AOE deluxe toys were TRU exclusives in England

So is there not gonna be a Helicopter Drift? Or maybe he dropped the triple-changing between movies?

Kurona wrote:So is there not gonna be a Helicopter Drift? Or maybe he dropped the triple-changing between movies?

I don't exactly see why he would've dropped the triple changing. Seems pretty practical to me. Either way, I'd love to see the skyhammer mold in red!

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Strange seeing so many retools used strictly as exclusives, especially for key movie characters. Most likely these versions of Hotrod, Onslaught, and Nitro are repaints of figures that will be available in the main line. The rest, probably not. That's a pretty unusual thing for Hasbro to do.

Emerje

its unusual, i will give you that. it was unusual for RID Starscream which was TRU exclusive at first. But he was eventually released wide (months later).

And Megatronus, but he was also released in the main line with a new head at normal retail. So we've established a precedence with TRU.

but here, what is odd is that we all know the rundown of all mianline figures (in code names) and that list has been confirmed by multiple sources around the planet. Its the same breakdown everytime and the only one left unknown is one deluxe. and that list doesnt include these exclusives. So it really seems like they wont get a wide release. Could be worse, all AOE deluxe toys were TRU exclusives in England

But how many waves do we know? Just the first for sure and parts of what comes after from Toy Fair, right? As far as I know we don't know how many waves we're getting, so there's a chance of them being released later on. It isn't like the main TLK line is any stranger to repaints and remolds.

Something else to consider: We've been getting a lot of leaks for TRU, but nothing official, right? What about Walmart and Target exclusives, where are those? Can't imagine they wont have any at all. I think there's a lot we still don't know.

Kurona wrote:So is there not gonna be a Helicopter Drift? Or maybe he dropped the triple-changing between movies?

It's amazing that they haven't repainted Generations Springer into Drift yet.

Emerje

Yeah, I really hope they base Hot Rod off a Bumblebee instead of Roadbuster/Lockdown. I am done with that mold and Rod looks more like Bee

Emerje wrote:

Kurona wrote:So is there not gonna be a Helicopter Drift? Or maybe he dropped the triple-changing between movies?

It's amazing that they haven't repainted Generations Springer into Drift yet.

Emerje

I thought the same thing, though I feel it would take some serious remolding to be able to match the movie aesthetic and all its... point bits.

Emerje wrote:But how many waves do we know? Just the first for sure and parts of what comes after from Toy Fair, right? As far as I know we don't know how many waves we're getting, so there's a chance of them being released later on. It isn't like the main TLK line is any stranger to repaints and remolds.

We know more than that. We know th entire mainline offering, which have not all been revealed at toyfair:


Generations Deluxe Class:
Wave 1:
“Shooting Star” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gamma Ray” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Mars” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gas Giant” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 2:
“Nova” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Comet” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Earth” with weapons listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Hot Gas” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 3:
“Zodiac” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gravity” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Saturn” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Lightning” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada

Generations Voyager Class:
Wave 1:
“Jupiter” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Lunar Eclipse” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 2:
“Pluto” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Super Nova” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 3:
“Gamma Beam Grey” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Sun” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada

Legion Class:
Wave 1:
“Mars” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Lunar Eclipse” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gas Giant” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Four Moons” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 2:
“Pluto” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gravity” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Nova” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada


We already deduced them all except for 1 deluxe figure. And this list excludes those TRU exclusives.

Kurona wrote:So is there not gonna be a Helicopter Drift? Or maybe he dropped the triple-changing between movies?

They could rerelease his one step, those have not all been revealed.

I dont think we will see a helicopter drift aside from that.

Emerje wrote:

Kurona wrote:So is there not gonna be a Helicopter Drift? Or maybe he dropped the triple-changing between movies?

It's amazing that they haven't repainted Generations Springer into Drift yet.

I thought about that also, but it seems to me that would be very difficult as they would have to make the vehicle look like that of his movie counterpart. They're two different aesthetics that I would be very interested to see combined but I can also imagine being a very difficult task.

Bumblebee Instructions leaked!How do I post an image?

Seibertronian AwesomePow has let us know that yet another leak has sprung in the toyline for Transformers: The Last Knight from our typical Weibo user 同时转发到我的微博. This time, we get a peek at the instructions for the wave 3 Bumblebee figure, which appears to be a new mold incorporating design cues from earlier Bee's. One new thing to point out though is that Bee now has a replacement arm, so you can pop his left forearm off and replace it with his cannon arm, so he can either have a hand or a cannon. The extra limb appears to store under his backpack area. Check out the image below, and stay tuned for more Last Knight news!

The one steps were at my TRU today. tried to buy em (because we have a line wide discount) but as soon as it was scanned, the cash froze up with a message displaying "cant purchase until April 24" insted of the price.

Heh that's strange.

Barricade and Berserker instructions too.http://tformers.com/more-the-last-knigh ... /news.html

Awesomepow wrote:Barricade and Berserker instructions too.http://tformers.com/more-the-last-knigh ... /news.html

yeah but we already have actual video reviews showing the transformations for those, so there isnt really new stuff to see compared to this bumblebee that we technically havent even seen a live image of the actual robot mode.

AgentK2 wrote:Does anybody else find it a bit odd that Onslaught is green?

Not when he was shown to be green a long time ago.



It's just another name reuse. He's no more a Combaticon than Brawl was in the first movie.

Oh this figure just gets more appealing all the time. I love that it lets you have his hand and a cool big cannon arm (rather than the feeble looking ones when they have it so his hand swings away and gun swings out) and you can store the cannon in his back if you want. Damn why is this wave 3? I want it now.

edit: hadn't noticed before but this one's got the lower smaller wings on his back too it seems like?

william-james88 wrote:We know more than that. We know th entire mainline offering, which have not all been revealed at toyfair:

I remember that list, but I didn't know we figured all but one of them out. Do you have a version of that list with all of the blanks filled?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:We know more than that. We know th entire mainline offering, which have not all been revealed at toyfair:

I remember that list, but I didn't know we figured all but one of them out. Do you have a version of that list with all of the blanks filled?

Emerje

No, its somewhere on TFW. If you find it, please post it here

Sabrblade wrote:

AgentK2 wrote:Does anybody else find it a bit odd that Onslaught is green?

Not when he was shown to be green a long time ago.



It's just another name reuse. He's no more a Combaticon than Brawl was in the first movie.

Okay, that makes sense. Too bad though, I think Bruticus would be a great addition seeing as we've never had a proper combiner in the movies (when I say proper combiner, I exclude devastator as his appearance in the movie was drastically different than what many would have imagined it to be).

Also, I do vaguely remember seeing the green truck in those photos a while back, I must've forgotten who it represented.

AgentK2 wrote:Okay, that makes sense. Too bad though, I think Bruticus would be a great addition seeing as we've never had a proper combiner in the movies (when I say proper combiner, I exclude devastator as his appearance in the movie was drastically different than what many would have imagined it to be).

Also, I do vaguely remember seeing the green truck in those photos a while back, I must've forgotten who it represented.

Did Devastator combiner?

Then he was a "proper" combiner because just because it was not G1 or based on a humanoid combiner doesn't mean he was not a Combiner.

Plus besides the wrecking ball joke ROTF Devastator was a heck more original of a combiner instead of just another oversized humanoid.

Deadput wrote:

AgentK2 wrote:Okay, that makes sense. Too bad though, I think Bruticus would be a great addition seeing as we've never had a proper combiner in the movies (when I say proper combiner, I exclude devastator as his appearance in the movie was drastically different than what many would have imagined it to be).

Also, I do vaguely remember seeing the green truck in those photos a while back, I must've forgotten who it represented.

Did Devastator combiner?

Then he was a "proper" combiner because just because it was not G1 or based on a humanoid combiner doesn't mean he was not a Combiner.

Plus besides the wrecking ball joke ROTF Devastator was a heck more original of a combiner instead of just another oversized humanoid.

I wasn't trying to insult ROTF Devastator, who I also quite liked. I worded that wrong, and for that I apologize. All I meant was I'd like to see their take on the traditional combiner formula as well. I grew up with the movies, and such Devastator was my first introduction to combiners. I thought he was awesome as a kid and still do. But I'd also like to see the movie take on an enormous humanoid combiner, just because I think it would be really cool as well, y'know?

Here they all are emerje:


Deluxe Class:
Wave 1:
Berserker
Slash
Barricade
BB

Wave 2:
Drift
Sqweeks
Steelbane
Slug

Wave 3:
BB
Crosshairs
Strafe
“Lightning” codename

Generations Voyager Class:
Wave 1:
Optimus
Grimlock

Wave 2:
Hound
Megatron

Wave 3:
Scorn
BB

Legion Class:
Wave 1:
Optimus
BB
Barricade
Grimlock

Wave 2:
Megatron
Dragonstorm
Drift

Wave 3
Dragonstorm

Leader
Wave 1:
Optimus
Megatron

Wave 2
Dragonstorm

if its new to you, I guess not everyone is aware and I might news it for all to see.

Deadput wrote:Devastator combiner?

Not really. A combiner is made up of many robots combining into one. ROTF Devastator was just objects forming a robot together. That isnt a combiner by any TF definition so far (not even PCC combiner).

its more like a duocon but made up of 5 vehicles.

Guys I think those toys are fake some people on Tfw2005 are getting evidince such as the Onslaght figure being in the exact pose as ROTF Long Haul


Hot Rod using parts from other figures like Roadbuster



Skullitron's leg is photo shopped to "remove" the dragon head





And Nitro's gun is cut off just liked the leaked photo of his toy in an image that should show the whole thing.

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Devastator combiner?

Not really. A combiner is made up of many robots combining into one. ROTF Devastator was just objects forming a robot together. That isnt a combiner by any TF definition so far (not even PCC combiner).

its more like a duocon but made up of 5 vehicles.

While I think of this myself is there any actual word of this like from Hasbro or the film makers?

I mean in this very movie Onslaught and Canopy are Long Haul's with new parts who is to say there are not more duplicates.

Deadput wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Deadput wrote:Devastator combiner?

Not really. A combiner is made up of many robots combining into one. ROTF Devastator was just objects forming a robot together. That isnt a combiner by any TF definition so far (not even PCC combiner).

its more like a duocon but made up of 5 vehicles.

While I think of this myself is there any actual word of this like from Hasbro or the film makers?

None. They just reuse models because its cheaper. Plus it works within the whole idea that these are soldiers sharing similar bodies (but even then I dont think they think that far).

Also, damn it does look fake now, fuck!

Deadput wrote:Guys I think those toys are fake some people on Tfw2005 are getting evidince such as the Onslaght figure being in the exact pose as ROTF Long Haul


Hot Rod using parts from other figures like Roadbuster



Skullitron's leg is photo shopped to "remove" the dragon head





And Nitro's gun is cut off just liked the leaked photo of his toy in an image that should show the whole thing.

It's definitely possible, although the part about Hot Rod having Roadbuster's legs could just mean that he's a remold, right? And with Onslaught, if they are indeed the same mold then maybe it would make sense for them to be in the same pose? I dunno, might just be me in denial considering I like the looks of these guys.

AgentK2 wrote:It's definitely possible, although the part about Hot Rod having Roadbuster's legs could just mean that he's a remold, right? And with Onslaught, if they are indeed the same mold then maybe it would make sense for them to be in the same pose? I dunno, might just be me in denial considering I like the looks of these guys.

Nah it's definitely fake been looking on different sites and people are starting to come to the conclusion that this is a photoshop.

This is a very low rez image which as relatively easy to photo shop.

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:We know more than that. We know th entire mainline offering, which have not all been revealed at toyfair:

I remember that list, but I didn't know we figured all but one of them out. Do you have a version of that list with all of the blanks filled?

Emerje

No, its somewhere on TFW. If you find it, please post it here

TFWorld or TFWiki? Damn abbreviations.

Kidding aside, I did find this on TFWiki.

Yeah, just one missing from wave 3 (or future wave as they put it). No chance of it being Hot Rod? No chance of a wave 4?

(Edit: Aaaand you already posted the list while I wasn't looking.)

Emerje

Hey guys did you hear about that new Canopy toy rumored accessories include a backpack pile of rocks for film accuracy! /s



Those darn Hasblowers couldn't even make a new head how lazy!?! /s

william-james88 wrote:Generations Deluxe Class:
Wave 1:
“Shooting Star” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gamma Ray” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Mars” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gas Giant” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 2:
“Nova” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Comet” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Earth” with weapons listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Hot Gas” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 3:
“Zodiac” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gravity” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Saturn” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Lightning” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada

Generations Voyager Class:
Wave 1:
“Jupiter” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Lunar Eclipse” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 2:
“Pluto” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Super Nova” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 3:
“Gamma Beam Grey” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Sun” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada

Legion Class:
Wave 1:
“Mars” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Lunar Eclipse” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gas Giant” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Four Moons” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
Wave 2:
“Pluto” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Gravity” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada
“Nova” listed at Amazon US and Amazon Canada


We already deduced them all except for 1 deluxe figure. And this list excludes those TRU exclusives.

william-james88 wrote:Deluxe Class:
Wave 1:
Berserker
Slash
Barricade
BB

Wave 2:
Drift
Sqweeks
Steelbane
Slug

Wave 3:
BB
Crosshairs
Strafe
“Lightning” codename

Generations Voyager Class:
Wave 1:
Optimus
Grimlock

Wave 2:
Hound
Megatron

Wave 3:
Scorn
BB

Legion Class:
Wave 1:
Optimus
BB
Barricade
Grimlock

Wave 2:
Megatron
Dragonstorm
Drift

Wave 3
Dragonstorm

Leader
Wave 1:
Optimus
Megatron

Wave 2
Dragonstorm

if its new to you, I guess not everyone is aware and I might news it for all to see.

For side by side comparison.

Though are we sure we derived this right? Some names line up, but some really don't

Emerje wrote:Yeah, just one missing from wave 3 (or future wave as they put it). No chance of it being Hot Rod? No chance of a wave 4?

Emerje

Definite chance of hotrod. But wave 4, not so sure. because there are no code names beyond that and these were all from retailers so it was showing them what they would be able to order, so I dont know why they would keep a wave out. Plus it fits with the similarity of AOE being 3 waves. So sure, anyting is possible, but there is currently no evidence for it.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Though are we sure we derived this right? Some names line up, but some really don't

They are not made to line up, I wasnt writng the names in any order, that might not even be the right codename left for wave 3 deluxes.

Onslaught almost looks like the lovechild of longhaul and mixmaster.