IDW Transformers: Lost Light #8 3-Page iTunes preview

Those first two pages? In my opinion, hands down the best two pages of Lost Light so far. I already loved Nautica but I'm loving Velocity so much more now

I like how the fountain is dilapidated with slightly wilted plants to show how Caminus was energy deficient- good job with the lore on Lawrence's art. Also, can anyone translate the writing on the third venue going up on the bottom right?

Not even sure what language that is, but in looking at that panel... usually I'd brush it off as coincidence, but knowing Roberts; the fact there's like 3 coffins in that street is gonna be significant, isn't it?

Finally getting to see more character from Velocity

Also, I honestly didn't register it was Tramontano's art until I saw the credits.

Coffins or life support escape pods? I agree, I'm liking this more than anything I read early on in LL.

Do you think if the crew of The Lost Light was smaller, the stories in MTMTE and now LL would have been better (faster pace and more streamlined)? Or since the stories focus only on a select few characters at a time, aside from the main guys, it doesn't matter?

On that contrary, personally I've found MTMTE to be proof that a fairly large cast of characters can not only be done but can be done very, very well. I can't think of a single story bar maybe Dissolution that would have benefited from a smaller cast.

The whole dissonance of coffins being sold in a cheery market is I think going to be very much a reflection of how this story will play out. Bear in mind that the preview for the TPB called Troja Major a planet where grief is used as currency, and there's plenty of that going around...
What I'm more interested in though is Nautica's eyepatch. I'd not really clocked till now why I find it so weird, but with the flashback panel on the same page it's more obvious. At the end of MTMTE, despite the facial injuries she still had two eyes. Now, it seems the cosmetic damage has been fixed but she's got a patch over the eye? Perhaps just a permanent reminder of what she went through, or perhaps there's more than meets the eye? eh? anyone? to it than we think.

ArmadaPrime wrote:The whole dissonance of coffins being sold in a cheery market is I think going to be very much a reflection of how this story will play out. Bear in mind that the preview for the TPB called Troja Major a planet where grief is used as currency, and there's plenty of that going around...

Suddenly the TPB's cover of Nautica with a spectral image of Skids behind her makes a lot more sense...

I have come to really like Tramonato's art and I can't wait to see the full issue

Does anyone else think that the entire "Lost Light" series has been boring lately? I'm kind of just getting tired of reading it. (spoilers ahead if you aren't caught up) They freakin killed skids. My favorite character. They locked Tailgate into a tube for 6 million years. WTF. Why? An aside from their escapades on functionalist cybertron, there really hasnt been much action other than a few exceptions.

Months before the return of both characters in Issue #10 of IDW's Lost Light, series artist Jack Lawrence has taken to his Twitter and posted a couple of sketches for the Autobots First Aid and Getaway! Check 'em out below and tell us what you think of Lawrence's depiction of the two in the forums.

Like em. First Aid's foot and calf area look huge but eh. He's a robot. Generally speaking, I dig Lawrence's art style. It started good and has improved over time as well.

Hmmm. So that is what First Aid would look like as a titan master.

Well, Getaway looks almost perfect, which I'm surprised at, considering that's the first time I've thought that about any of Lawrence's art. On the other hand, First Aid's proportions are beyond ridiculous. I've always disliked the more animated styles, but a 'bot's feet and calves should not be the size of the rest of his body put together. It's a shame, too, being as the rest of First Aid's detail looks pretty good.

Oh golly am I glad to have First Aid back in town, I sure have missed my boy. I do share apprehensions about the amount of LEG but then again, he also won't have a giant disembodied head nor will Getaway have an invisible elbow (...probably), it could just be Lawrence getting some practice of the detail by blowing it up a bit. Equally, could be a slight redesign, will have to wait till we see it on page.
Thinking about it, aren't all the protectobots en route to the LL? I don't think they ended up losing the ability to combine, so there just might be hope for a truly righteous beatdown on Getaway.

So, then. Rodimus Prime is pretty much front and centre of the next Transformers toy range later this year; in fact there appears to be several versions of him planned for release across 3 waves.

Despite Roberts' frustrations with his players being dragged into enforced cross overs, the Protectobots still contrived to join the Combiner Wars (from which they're still to return).

With all this in mind - is it nailed-on certain that IDW Rodders will be getting an upgrade? And if so, will he be leaving the Lost Light (comic) in order to effect this?

As we first reported here, current IDW Publishing artist on Transformers: Lost Light Jack Lawrence has created his own series 'bible' to aid in references, designs and the such on the comics ongoing series. And now, you can own that same 40-page compendium too! According to Lawrence, the first batch should be available at TFNation next month, but stay tuned for more updates.

Quint wrote:So, then. Rodimus Prime is pretty much front and centre of the next Transformers toy range later this year; in fact there appears to be several versions of him planned for release across 3 waves.

Despite Roberts' frustrations with his players being dragged into enforced cross overs, the Protectobots still contrived to join the Combiner Wars (from which they're still to return).

With all this in mind - is it nailed-on certain that IDW Rodders will be getting an upgrade? And if so, will he be leaving the Lost Light (comic) in order to effect this?

I don't think it's certain by any means. I'd go so far as to say it's unlikely. Outside of a very short arc with Sentinel and a one-shot with Trypticon, what impact did the Titans Return toy line have on IDW? Some token Mindwipe appearances in AHO?

ScottyP wrote: Outside of a very short arc with Sentinel and a one-shot with Trypticon, what impact did the Titans Return toy line have on IDW? Some token Mindwipe appearances in AHO?

A fun little arc with Fort Max and a fantastic new take on Cerebros that we probably wouldn't have gotten otherwise (Part of the Sentinel arc granted, but my point is that it did more good than harm)

I'd really hate for Rodimus to get his POTP design. A unique, character-reflecting excellent design thrown out the window for the sake of geewun. Not my cup of tea

Quint wrote:So, then. Rodimus Prime is pretty much front and centre of the next Transformers toy range later this year; in fact there appears to be several versions of him planned for release across 3 waves.

Despite Roberts' frustrations with his players being dragged into enforced cross overs, the Protectobots still contrived to join the Combiner Wars (from which they're still to return).

With all this in mind - is it nailed-on certain that IDW Rodders will be getting an upgrade? And if so, will he be leaving the Lost Light (comic) in order to effect this?

My fear is that this version of Hot Rod will actually become a prime. I really can't stand him, and I think the best possible thing would be for someone to give him a blow to his ego, preferably by someone else becoming a prime instead of him. Heck, by this point Drift probably deserves the distinction more than Hot Rod.

Directly from IDW Publishing, we have the full preview of this week's comics releases for the Hasbro Universe! Next up is a look at Wednesday's Transformers: Lost Light #8, with some new story material, as we follow Nautica, Anode, Lug and more to a new planet. Check it out below, and head back to Seibertron.com for our review later this week!

Transformers: Lost Light #8
James Roberts (w) • Jack Lawrence (a & c)
THE HUNT IS ON! Ever lost something and spent forever looking for it? Try visiting Troja Major, the lost property capital of the universe. Just bear in mind that it's better known by another name: the Howling Town. And the Autobots are about to find out why.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
Don’t miss the Megatron cover by Mondo artist Tom Whalen, part of our Tom Whalen Cover Month!
Variant cover by Alex Milne!

Nautica: I'd like everyone to meet my friend, The Collecto- I mean The Curator! Yes! The Curator! Absolutely not the collector!

Wait, does that imply that Cyclonus is rich? How does anyone in this series make money when all they do is hang around a ship? Are they getting paid for being crew members? How much is Hot Rod making as captain compared to everyone else? I'll bet it's a lot.

ricemazter wrote:Wait, does that imply that Cyclonus is rich? How does anyone in this series make money when all they do is hang around a ship? Are they getting paid for being crew members? How much is Hot Rod making as captain compared to everyone else? I'll bet it's a lot.

Issue 13 MTMTE, tailgate said cyclonus is a billionaire because he owned real-estate before leaving on the Ark 6 million years ago.

I am interested to read this issue. I did wonder about Velocity and Nautica. I think I am behind an issue or two to be honest, there were a few lack luster ones so my friends have been less hyped. My GF will usually get exited when she gets them from iTunes but I have not heard a peep from her about Lost Light in a while.

Synopsis
THE HUNT IS ON! Ever lost something and spent forever looking for it? Try visiting Troja Major, the lost property capital of the universe. Just bear in mind that it's better known by another name: the Howling Town. And the Autobots are about to find out why.



Story

I was reminded by other comics staff that we've had a number of voices already on reviews this far, for the new iteration of Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye, but mine was not the one that has appeared yet for Lost Light. It's probably time then, right? Back to the story?



One of the issues I've had with the series, much like its predecessor, is the use of the medium of comics as a serialised narrative - they read really well as a collected trade (read volume 1 in one sitting, believe me), but sometimes take odd steps as single issues. This book, however, does not do that, and in fact plays the field extremely well as a morsel of a wider story yet to happen, and previous ones being closed or at least addressed.



As we know, James Roberts takes his time on the series to get to know the characters, and characters here are a very important part of the plot: what we discover about Nautica and Velocity, their interactions prior to the Lost Light, wouldn't have made sense while Megatron was still in the picture - but what he does well here is to not sacrifice plot for character development, at all.



And in terms of highlights, this book has fallen into the category of what Transformers comics can do now, from a socio-political perspective, in terms of identity, representation, and delving further into human issues while using sad gay (can we finally change this to queer?) robots in space. And yes, I'm talking about Anode and Lug, and what we learn about both of them.


Art

After a full arc and a breather, we see a different artist taking charge of a very important issue, plot wise among the rest, and Priscilla Tramontano has some excellent leads in terms of visual continuity with Lawrence's art, while still keeping very much to her own style and approach to the characters.



With a change from the usual, Joana Lafuente joins Tramontano on colours, perhaps also aiding in the continuity, but also providing an extremely vibrant and diverse cast of organic presences on Troja Major, taking the best pages out of Lucas' books and making the marketplace as cantina-esque (but well lit) as she can.



In a universe where several characters are identifiable by their speech patters, and those speech patterns are to be made visible, a letterer like Tom B. Long makes sure that we can glean more from the page that you might read at first glance, while also enjoying the sounds of the new setting! Meanwhile, the cover for this review's thumbnail is the variant art by Alex Milne and Josh Perez, very much about the grief aspect of it all, but also more pertaining to the plot of the issue than you might think... All other covers can be found in our database entry right here, including Roche/Burcham, Tom Whalen, and the main Lawrence/Lafuente

Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

What do you know? We're back looking for the Knights of Cybertron! For real! As I said above, the overarching plot is not sidelined for the characters or subplots, but rather the two work well together in the issue, and we get to find out more about The Quest that started all those 50+ issues ago under another title altogether - but what we find may not be what we were looking for, especially if it was answers.



That said, my allusions towards the scene featuring Anode and Lug warrants a couple extra words here, while still wanting to leave it to readers to appreciate: it has some nice callbacks to the last Optimus Prime issue, and Sideswipe's understanding of the new reality; it has a well-developed approach to the issue at hand, sign of good research on the team's behalf; it helps sediment

I love the new/old character that Lug and Anode meet! Even if Anode still does rub me the wrong way. And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't this issue feature more fembots than male 'bots? At least until the last few pages?

Bounti76 wrote:I love the new/old character that Lug and Anode meet! Even if Anode still does rub me the wrong way. And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't this issue feature more fembots than male 'bots? At least until the last few pages?

It did! It was a nice little slice of life in the TF verse.

I really wish I could say I was surprised by the ending but I'm so fed up with fake deaths and resurrections it's just become the norm with roberts anymore. Kill a character and a year or two down the road and they're back. Sometimes it's the very next issue. It's just another tiresome thing.

Randomhero wrote:I really wish I could say I was surprised by the ending but I'm so fed up with fake deaths and resurrections it's just become the norm with roberts anymore. Kill a character and a year or two down the road and they're back. Sometimes it's the very next issue. It's just another tiresome thing.

If I can ask, what happened? I don't plan on picking this one up.

ricemazter wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I really wish I could say I was surprised by the ending but I'm so fed up with fake deaths and resurrections it's just become the norm with roberts anymore. Kill a character and a year or two down the road and they're back. Sometimes it's the very next issue. It's just another tiresome thing.

If I can ask, what happened? I don't plan on picking this one up.

It's revealed that Nautica is looking for a way to resurrect Skids at the very end. If that does indeed happen, I'm gonna be very disappointed. Wolfman has a point, Roberts (or maybe just comics in general) have a habit of bringing back 'dead' characters. However, if Skids is brought back, I think it'll make his death and sacrifice worthless.

Cmdr. Trailblazer wrote:

ricemazter wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I really wish I could say I was surprised by the ending but I'm so fed up with fake deaths and resurrections it's just become the norm with roberts anymore. Kill a character and a year or two down the road and they're back. Sometimes it's the very next issue. It's just another tiresome thing.

If I can ask, what happened? I don't plan on picking this one up.

It's revealed that Nautica is looking for a way to resurrect Skids at the very end. If that does indeed happen, I'm gonna be very disappointed. Wolfman has a point, Roberts (or maybe just comics in general) have a habit of bringing back 'dead' characters. However, if Skids is brought back, I think it'll make his death and sacrifice worthless.

Oh, yeah that would be cliche and make one of the main events from an only okay arc of the series pointless.

Here's my prediction: Skids will be brought back, but it will be some kind of monkey's paw deal, where skids will be altered in some way, evil, brain dead, etc. Then, the crew will deal with that for a while before turning him back to normal in a tear filled "we missed you" scene. Nautica will probably be hugging him.

For me it's a 50/50

Someone will show up and tell nautica she needs to accept and let go andcome to race with skids death

Or

Skids will be resurrected because he is the only real connection to "Cyberutopia" because he saw it and there's still something there. I said a year ago when he died that's gonna affect something with taking him out of the picture.

If you're losing interest in MTMTE/LL because you're not thrilled with where it's going this issue won't change your mind. That my opinion at least.

The first couple pages of Velocity and Nautica were cute but did absolutely nothing and told us nothing about them that we didn't already know while Anode and Lugs origins are given word bubbles.

It's just talking heads. I gave up after I saw word bubble after word bubble after word bubble and just skimmed the issue and waited for the wiki to summarize it which has always been one of my major criticisms about Roberts. He wants to tell you instead of showing you.

I was also sort of let down by the issue. I don't know anymore, it's like for every good thing, there is an inexcusable bad thing.

I mean, come on! Skids death was final, meant to be so, and was so meaningful. Similar thing with Ravage and Trailcutter. and how we are trying to resurrect him? If he does come back, that is scrap and it basically ruins Dying of the Light. If he is nearly brought back but somehow goes back to the afterspark,
or if Nautica needs to die for him to come back, ok I can give a little there.

Now I do like where we are going with the warworlds, the things from issues 7 and 46, we are getting somewhere. And Flame is back, nice

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I was also sort of let down by the issue. I don't know anymore, it's like for every good thing, there is an inexcusable bad thing.

I mean, come on! Skids death was final, meant to be so, and was so meaningful. Similar thing with Ravage and Trailcutter. and how we are trying to resurrect him? If he does come back, that is scrap and it basically ruins Dying of the Light. If he is nearly brought back but somehow goes back to the afterspark,
or if Nautica needs to die for him to come back, ok I can give a little there.

Now I do like where we are going with the warworlds, the things from issues 7 and 46, we are getting somewhere. And Flame is back, nice

Those weren't war worlds they're D-class world sweepers but yeah having Flame show up raises some questions and possibly answers some. He was last seen in on a flashback on trial in LSOTW which means he was there when the decepticons laid siege to it and who else was there? Grimlock. Where was Grimlock found? on a Symbol ship. And what have this mysterious faction been flying around in? symbol ships. That last page was the only page I felt was interesting.

Man, after a lot of issues that felt so close to being what I look for in MTMTELL, this really hit the spot. Mysteries, answers, character moments- all around marvelous.

Anode and Lug's reveal was very well handled- according to Robert's twitter he reached out to those with more experience than him to figure out how best to approach it, and the dedication & research show. Plus, it had been a personal theory/hope of mine for ages so I'm very pleased

The whole thing with Skids, Nautica, and the Resus Cradle I feel could either play out very well or very poorly- I have enough faith in Roberts to think the former. I think ricemazter might be on the money with the monkey's paw comparison, it would be very MTMTE for this to turn into a be-careful-what-you-wish-for situation. I don't think it will end that well though- I'm imagining either the cost of bringing him back will be too great, or if we go full horror he could come back as a corpse they have to kill again. Brutal. Either way, I doubt he'll be returning to the cast. Also damn Nautica, carrying around a dude's brain in your eye socket is freaking hardcore.

Most interesting to a mythos-theorising nerd like me though is the Knights' symbols. It's something I'd thought possible for a while, but the reveal of those clearly shows imo that the Knights follow the Guiding Hand, each clan a different member. The bottom right is unmistakably Mortilus' head. The question remains then- who/what exactly does the Gear symbol we've seen a lot represent, and what does that imply about this Grand Architect who's name keeps cropping up?

So the crew is long gone from Necroworld, how have they not managed to contact Cybertron by this point? It's good to see the quest actually someaby back on track, it's about time after nearly a whole year.

I've got to say, I'm not a fan of the whole trans/queer robot thing that Roberts and others have been introducing lately. We have aliens whose lifespans are seemingly infinite (at least in the IDWverse) expressing a lot of overly human feelings and angst. A race with no concept of gender, a race without the need for gender or sexual identity is what we've known Cybertronian to be all these years. I was fine with

Chromedome and Rewind; a huge fan actually. They presented a couple of genderless alien beings in love without making the whole affair seem overly human. But with recent happenings in TAAO and now LL, it feels like the writers are trying to present a very human problem in a way that just doesn't make sense. The endless same "sex" relationships and suddenly transsexual robots really feels like a PC stunt at best, personal social justice warrior-ing at worst.

Transformers have had a concept of gender ever since the first Marvel issue referred to Optimus Prime as a 'he'. If they have enough of a concept to describe each other with such pronouns, it's really not that much of a stretch to believe some would end up preferring different pronouns later in their lives.

ArmadaPrime wrote: Most interesting to a mythos-theorising nerd like me though is the Knights' symbols. It's something I'd thought possible for a while, but the reveal of those clearly shows imo that the Knights follow the Guiding Hand, each clan a different member. The bottom right is unmistakably Mortilus' head. The question remains then- who/what exactly does the Gear symbol we've seen a lot represent, and what does that imply about this Grand Architect who's name keeps cropping up?

If I had to guess, the bots with the cog symbol follow Adaptus. From what we've seen with the half-form protoforms and other interesting things inside the WorldSweepers, this sect of the Knights is trying to change Cybertronian physiology on a cellular level. Maybe each "chapter" of the Knights has twisted the views/beliefs of the Guiding Hand member they follow/worship. Just speculation though.

Transgender robots = Awesome.

*micdrop*

Daniel Adkins wrote:Transgender robots = Awesome.

*micdrop*

We desperately need a 'like' button.

And now we can make the joke about Trans-formers with emphasis on the trans amiritegys?

"sigh" Why can't we just stay simple with there being only two genders and media not sucking up to the popular trends of the year damn it Roberts.

I might be bias though since besides being in a Christian family I'm personally very much against the concept of people deciding what gender they are and ignoring science and biology like their god like I don't care if you think your an attack Helicopter or an alien your born either a boy or a girl that's the way it's always been and how God intended it to be so why are we only now doing this stuff for the last couple years?

Sorry if I'm getting political or being self centered I don't like being that but this subject is just wrong and unnatural to me and in my opinion those people need help and not encouragement.

Kurona wrote:Transformers have had a concept of gender ever since the first Marvel issue referred to Optimus Prime as a 'he'. If they have enough of a concept to describe each other with such pronouns, it's really not that much of a stretch to believe some would end up preferring different pronouns later in their lives.

Only real reason for that besides toys and humanizing them is that there isn't really any terms when it comes to genderless or other gendered people like there is for people being referred as him and her among other terms.

Hard to write a character like that without calling them it and making them seam less alive.

Daniel Adkins wrote:Transgender robots = Awesome.

*micdrop*

Awesome how? Just wondering since you don't go into detail.

Plus Awesome is an opinion and therefore subjective.

Deadput wrote:And now we can make the joke about Trans-formers with emphasis on the trans amiritegys?

"sigh" Why can't we just stay simple with there being only two genders and media not sucking up to the popular trends of the year damn it Roberts.

I might be bias though since besides being in a Christian family I'm personally very much against the concept of people deciding what gender they are and ignoring science and biology like their god like I don't care if you think your an attack Helicopter or an alien your born either a boy or a girl that's the way it's always been and how God intended it to be so why are we only now doing this stuff for the last couple years?

Sorry if I'm getting political or being self centered I don't like being that but this subject is just wrong and unnatural to me and in my opinion those people need help and not encouragement.

Kurona wrote:Transformers have had a concept of gender ever since the first Marvel issue referred to Optimus Prime as a 'he'. If they have enough of a concept to describe each other with such pronouns, it's really not that much of a stretch to believe some would end up preferring different pronouns later in their lives.

Only real reason for that besides toys and humanizing them is that there isn't really any terms when it comes to genderless or other gendered people like there is for people being referred as him and her among other terms.

Hard to write a character like that without calling them it and making them seam less alive.

Except there is a word: "they."

Also, gender is a construct. There's more than two genders.

With that, I must board a plane. Please don't go to hell, Thread!

EDIT: And awesome because it's more representation for transgender fans.

Daniel Adkins wrote:Except there is a word: "they."

Ehhhhhhhh but the way you can write or talk is very limited anyways due to lack of words in the English dictionary.

"He went to the store and bought a soda just for him."

Compared to

"They went to the store and bought a soda just for (blank)" I can't come up with anything else to fill that space besides it.

"They went to the store and bought soda for themselves." The same you would refer to the plural they.