Comparison Images for Transformers Titans Return Overlord and Sky Shadow

I think they also swapped faces xD

Damn! Seeing Overlord like this, it's beyond repaints! The amount of remolding is so complete, it ridiculous! There are barely the legs that are the same. Making Overlord well worth owning.

I see Overlord is wearing his sky pants today.

Never Skip Tank (Leg) Day

Real talk though, should they even be considered retools? The only thing that is the same on them are the legs (which is a completely separate piece) and even then the crotch is different. I have a hard time believing that they would retool a figure this extensively.

steals_your_goats wrote:Real talk though, should they even be considered retools? The only thing that is the same on them are the legs (which is a completely separate piece) and even then the crotch is different. I have a hard time believing that they would retool a figure this extensively.

Overlord's jet mode is really New, but some of them were shared Parts of Sky shadow

Aw man, is the transformation of the jet section basically an Aerialbot transformation? That kinda sucks

Is this like Sixshot where you don't have to take out the Titan Master in head mode for the vehicle mode?

Kurona wrote:Aw man, is the transformation of the jet section basically an Aerialbot transformation? That kinda sucks

Are you saying that Silverbolt and other Aerialbots have the same kind of transformation like from Sky Shadow and Overlord?
Well i'm still digging it , Badly needed Overlord though

So I'm not the only one that noticed an odd little Last Stand of the Wreckers trend going on in this line, right? Like, it seemed to be the main theme alongside 1987 toyline and Triple Changers.

It accounts for most the Deluxe molds not related to 1987 characters - Perceptor, Jumpstarters - there's a clear LSotW design intent in Kup and Perceptor (right down to his sniper rifle in the case of the latter), we got not only the main villain Overlord but we also got the full set of Phase Sixers -- a concept originating from that story, and involving the otherwise extremely obscure Black Shadow.

So with all that, does anyone else think we might get remaining characters like Impactor or Ironfist bless his spark as new-head retools in as-of-yet-unrevealed boxsets?

Kurona wrote:So I'm not the only one that noticed an odd little Last Stand of the Wreckers trend going on in this line, right? Like, it seemed to be the main theme alongside 1987 toyline and Triple Changers.

It accounts for most the Deluxe molds not related to 1987 characters - Perceptor, Jumpstarters - there's a clear LSotW design intent in Kup and Perceptor (right down to his sniper rifle in the case of the latter), we got not only the main villain Overlord but we also got the full set of Phase Sixers -- a concept originating from that story, and involving the otherwise extremely obscure Black Shadow.

So with all that, does anyone else think we might get remaining characters like Impactor or Ironfist bless his spark as new-head retools in as-of-yet-unrevealed boxsets?

That's not the case. 84-86 is pretty much done for CHUG most have been done except for the likes of reflector and beachcomber and ones they wanted to do again. Hasbro said the focus lately is 87 and later due to the gimmick. Power of the primes is rumored to be mostly 88 and later. Doesn't have anything to do with LSTOW, just the flow of the characters that haven't had toys reimagined yet.

As for overlord, I mean look at him. He's more super god master force than IDW and that's by choice. They could have made him more IDW but they went with the original look for him. This later line is more "let's make some characters that we never got to release massively back in the day. Black shadow is a great example of looking more victory than IDW but that's mostly because IDW just used his generations 2012 toy.


And I am still waiting for my overlord! He's been in the states for three days and hasn't arrived yet.

Kurona wrote:So with all that, does anyone else think we might get remaining characters like Impactor or Ironfist bless his spark as new-head retools in as-of-yet-unrevealed boxsets?

I foresee and impactor coming sooner rather than later. Probably in Power of the Primes. He is one of the main TF characters still without a good representation in toy form from Hasbro proper (along with Elita one). Then again, we dont have a good Ratchet either, which is a real shame.

Anyways back to your talk on LSOTW, I totally see those vibes too and somehow instead of being overjoyed it makes me sad that the Overlord we are gettign doesnt give me any vibes from the comic. I dont know what it is but even though they have the same components and overal colour scheme, I dont see IDW overlord in that toy, at all. I instead see only the G1 toy.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So with all that, does anyone else think we might get remaining characters like Impactor or Ironfist bless his spark as new-head retools in as-of-yet-unrevealed boxsets?

I foresee and impactor coming sooner rather than later. Probably in Power of the Primes. He is one of the main TF characters still without a good representation in toy form from Hasbro proper (along with Elita one). Then again, we dont have a good Ratchet either, which is a real shame.

Anyways back to your talk on LSOTW, I totally see those vibes too and somehow instead of being overjoyed it makes me sad that the Overlord we are gettign doesnt give me any vibes from the comic. I dont know what it is but even though they have the same components and overal colour scheme, I dont see IDW overlord in that toy, at all. I instead see only the G1 toy.

I wish I had the optimism as others and say "it's a popular character so a toy has to be coming" nothing against anyone who does but i like to think of myself as a realist with toys. Like a said a week ago or so, it took 11 years to get a classics Brawn. 6 years to get a retail release of classics thundercracker. I honestly don't look at who's popular in the comics

Randomhero wrote:I wish I had the optimism as others and say "it's a popular character so a toy has to be coming" nothing against anyone who does but i like to think of myself as a realist with toys. Like a said a week ago or so, it took 11 years to get a classics Brawn. 6 years to get a retail release of classics thundercracker. I honestly don't look at who's popular in the comics

Waitwaitwait..you don't count that one from the Universe line?! Brawn that is. That little one a few years ago. Totally not as awesome but still qualifies maybe..?

Also, I agree with you about the characters. Problem is, there are sooooooooooooooooo many in the universe now that who knows what we'll get at any given time!

Also. Why isn't Overlord here yet.

Randomhero wrote:That's not the case. 84-86 is pretty much done for CHUG most have been done except for the likes of reflector and beachcomber and ones they wanted to do again.

I fully agree with your overlord statement but i just wanted to point that they did release beachcomber. Scale is off but its still a minibot under that line


Transformers Universe - Classics 2.0 Beachcomber Gallery

If you count Classics Sideswipe and Ratchet as 84-86 bots released in the CHUG line then the same goes for Beachcomber.

Also, CW Reflector was supposed to be a mainline release but Hasbro let Fun Pub release it instead (apparently due to some laguage laws which I heard from someone who worked with hasbro on that but I still dont get it). So from Hasbro's perspective, all these 84-86 characters that initially had G1 toys have been redone under their own direct supervision.

Kurona wrote:Aw man, is the transformation of the jet section basically an Aerialbot transformation? That kinda sucks

Is this like Sixshot where you don't have to take out the Titan Master in head mode for the vehicle mode?

You dont have to remove the titan master. But I always have it chlling in the tank mode cockpit

And yes the upper torso is probably the simplest CHUG transformation of the past decade but it works and he looks awesome.

Hmm, this comparison just makes me want Sky Shadow. Which is kinda odd since Overlord's the character I'm invested in (granted I say odd but "toys I buy" and "characters I like" rarely match up).

steals_your_goats wrote:Real talk though, should they even be considered retools? The only thing that is the same on them are the legs (which is a completely separate piece) and even then the crotch is different. I have a hard time believing that they would retool a figure this extensively.

"Retool" has become a game of semantics at this point.
For me, it's a 'retool' in as much as the toys still function the same, and are rather clearly based on each other.

Randomhero wrote: Like a said a week ago or so, it took 11 years to get a classics Brawn.

It did not

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=classics+Brawn+images

Noideaforaname wrote:"Retool" has become a game of semantics at this point.
For me, it's a 'retool' in as much as the toys still function the same, and are rather clearly based on each other.

100% agree, there is no longer a clear fan definition for retool. So it can be a retool or not in anyones opinion. Since toys are all designed at the same time and the release schedule is no longer indicative of what was designed first, I feel the term is obsolete. The truth is these 2 toys share the same design and structural skeleton along with the same legs. Anything said beyond that is whatever a fan wants to say Its definitely a cost saving measure, just as retools of the past.

I was gonna point out the Beachcomber and Brawn thing but I was too lazy. Thanks WJ!!

itscramtastic wrote:I was gonna point out the Beachcomber and Brawn thing but I was too lazy. Thanks WJ!!

No problem Its too bad people forget about those. We actually had a nice Classics minibot team in its own scale with nice molds that werent repeats from other characters (unlike the latest classics Gen Warpath which doesnt even have a cannon on his chest).


Transformers Universe - Classics 2.0 Cosmos (Adams) Gallery

"It's the wrong trousers, Gromit! And they've gone horribly wrong!"

I think it's also fairly worth noting that this since CW we've had a new design team which seems much more inclined towards releasing ordered categories of characters together and completing teams. Compare Generations 2011 for instance having a rather odd and random selection of characters - Wheeljack, Ramjet, Thunderwing, Straxus, Red Alert - to CW and TR where right off the bat we got the four original Scramble City combiners, all seven main 1987 Headmasters, a Targetmaster collection which looks to be completed in the next wave... it's pretty clear that Warden's team, no matter what you might think of them; is much more committed towards giving fans complete collections now. They know what they're doing rather than the likes of Classics and Universe which - while awesome - had a pretty ragtag crew on offer with no discernible trend or pattern beyond perhaps obvious mold re-uses.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So with all that, does anyone else think we might get remaining characters like Impactor or Ironfist bless his spark as new-head retools in as-of-yet-unrevealed boxsets?

I foresee and impactor coming sooner rather than later. Probably in Power of the Primes. He is one of the main TF characters still without a good representation in toy form from Hasbro proper (along with Elita one). Then again, we dont have a good Ratchet either, which is a real shame.

Anyways back to your talk on LSOTW, I totally see those vibes too and somehow instead of being overjoyed it makes me sad that the Overlord we are gettign doesnt give me any vibes from the comic. I dont know what it is but even though they have the same components and overal colour scheme, I dont see IDW overlord in that toy, at all. I instead see only the G1 toy.

I wonder where pray tell did NR get the inspiration for his Overlord? Of course the G1 toy!

Is impossible not to see the influences from the G1 toy albeit in a stylize form

steals_your_goats wrote:Real talk though, should they even be considered retools? The only thing that is the same on them are the legs (which is a completely separate piece) and even then the crotch is different. I have a hard time believing that they would retool a figure this extensively.

Then would't this make them... "reshells"? That's a word that's been tossed around in recent years since the likes of Voyager Springer and Sandstorm.

I appreciate the effort they put into DEM LIPS lol

I hope we get a Rung in power of the Primes and let's not kid ourselves it doesn't matter what he turns into in IDW. We've seen his alt mode, he's a key or a switch or lever to something and that will never be a toy. Just make him a car or a motorcycle or something. Even before Milne was told what his alt mode looks like he drew a design of him turning into a little car with a crane. It'd just be nice to have a physical representation of him. Shoot I'd even settle for a GI size Rung that's just an action figure anymore.

Seibertronian Silver_August has sent proof that the Transformers Titans Return wave 5 deluxe class figures have hit Canadian retail! The photo shows Windblade and Misfire, along with a receipt to show that these came from a Wal-Mart in Ontario. Although Twin Twist is missing from this particular sighting, expect him to also show up at Canadian retail very soon.


Take a look at the photo, and please tell us below if you've seen any new figures anywhere in the world, and make sure to keep your optics and audio sensors tuned to Seibertron.com!

Randomhero wrote:I hope we get a Rung in power of the Primes and let's not kid ourselves it doesn't matter what he turns into in IDW. We've seen his alt mode, he's a key or a switch or lever to something and that will never be a toy. Just make him a car or a motorcycle or something.

How about a drill tank?

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I hope we get a Rung in power of the Primes and let's not kid ourselves it doesn't matter what he turns into in IDW. We've seen his alt mode, he's a key or a switch or lever to something and that will never be a toy. Just make him a car or a motorcycle or something.

How about a drill tank?

Talking of toys and rung, my favourite part about that is when it turned out the actual drill part was fake, it popped out when Rung transformed back like when a toy partsforms

nycPrime wrote:I received Chaos on Velocitron today from Amazon. I quickly opened the box but didn't take the figures out yet since I don't have time to play around with it. I did notice some of the stickers on Prime are peeling off. Is this a common issue at all?

That has been an issue with all pre-applied stickers in the line. Voyager Optimus Prime, Megatron and Broadside suffer from it too.

william-james88 wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:"Retool" has become a game of semantics at this point.
For me, it's a 'retool' in as much as the toys still function the same, and are rather clearly based on each other.

100% agree, there is no longer a clear fan definition for retool. So it can be a retool or not in anyones opinion. Since toys are all designed at the same time and the release schedule is no longer indicative of what was designed first, I feel the term is obsolete. The truth is these 2 toys share the same design and structural skeleton along with the same legs. Anything said beyond that is whatever a fan wants to say Its definitely a cost saving measure, just as retools of the past.

So this Overlord and Sky Shadow only share the tank module, plus the chest piece of the Titan Master (which indicates it's gang-molded). That's hardly anything new within Titans Return.

Those forearms, they look like something you would expect on a Unicron trilogy toy or early Optimus Primal. Their mass makes them look cheap. Which is a shame because everything else looks great. Also, if thehead doesn't have to come off, why did they have to do the headmaster gimmick? I know its the line play feature but it isn't utilized. At least Overlord has his powermaster ports.

Trikeboy wrote:Those forearms, they look like something you would expect on a Unicron trilogy toy or early Optimus Primal. Their mass makes them look cheap. Which is a shame because everything else looks great. Also, if thehead doesn't have to come off, why did they have to do the headmaster gimmick? I know its the line play feature but it isn't utilized. At least Overlord has his powermaster ports.

Just because you don't have to take it off doesn't mean there aren't reasons to -- like any other TR figure the Titan Master can pilot the alt mode. Both vehicle modes in this case. And, naturally, manning the base mode.

Trikeboy wrote:Also, if thehead doesn't have to come off, why did they have to do the headmaster gimmick?

if these toys are sold in the boy's aisle at a toy store, why are grown men and women buying em?

Answer to both is because we can

still waiting for kup & perceptor, really hope this was just a fluke and wave 5 isnt shipping yet.

Feh. For some reason, the areas I haunt seem to be under some kind of huge delay in terms of transformers deliveries. I still haven't seen Six Shot or many other figures that should have been out by now. With some figures, they're current. With others, we never see them at all. With some, you see to dang MANY of them and no others. Wish they'd balance better...

I own Black Shadow and do love it a lot and while I like Overlord even more as a character I have no intention of getting TR Overlord. Much like TR Sixshot I'll stick with my Mastermind Creations versions as my definitive versions. Don't think I don't appreciate what Has/Tak is doing, for those not lucky enough to be able to acquire 3rd party versions I think it's great that there's now more affordable and plentiful options available. Especially when you consider that just a few short years ago the thought of Hasbro dipping into the well of Masterforce was practically unthinkable! I think they're great, so much so that I still got Quickswitch (and Black Shadow as mentioned) so I could enjoy the mold, they just won't be usurping the versions currently on my shelf.

nycPrime wrote:I received Chaos on Velocitron today from Amazon. I quickly opened the box but didn't take the figures out yet since I don't have time to play around with it. I did notice some of the stickers on Prime are peeling off. Is this a common issue at all?

Yea, as already said it's pretty common with any factory applied stickers, I highly recommend getting the Reprolabels for this set, big improvements for every character!

homicide wrote: I think they're great, so much so that I still got Quickswitch (and Black Shadow as mentioned) so I could enjoy the mold, they just won't be usurping the versions currently on my shelf.

And plus that way you get to have all four look very different from one another.

william-james88 wrote:

homicide wrote: I think they're great, so much so that I still got Quickswitch (and Black Shadow as mentioned) so I could enjoy the mold, they just won't be usurping the versions currently on my shelf.

And plus that way you get to have all four look very different from one another.

Exactly!

My stalking of the Harbro Toy Shop site has paid off! Finally they listed Percy! https://www.hasbro.com/en-us/product/tr ... CCDFE6F873

I find it odd HTS is missing some of his wave mates, yet has some wave 5 figures listed:
https://www.hasbro.com/en-us/product/tr ... 9991B49BF8

I'm curious to see if they are in the middle of an update or if my computer is playing tricks. I know for a fact that Percy is new because I have been wanting one Tho sadly they are not on HTS' ebay shop because the free shipping benchmark is a lot lower. HTS would get a lot more money off me if they stocked their ebay page more.

Not seen a new toy in months - not even the legends some are getting. I've never even seen a kickback or Bumblebee in the wild.

The Movie toys are strangely absent too - I wouldn't be surprised if it stays like this until August/ September and then it all falls from the sky. They really are that stupid that they'd wait until the kids are back at school before stocking shelves.

william-james88 wrote:100% agree, there is no longer a clear fan definition for retool. So it can be a retool or not in anyones opinion. Since toys are all designed at the same time and the release schedule is no longer indicative of what was designed first, I feel the term is obsolete. The truth is these 2 toys share the same design and structural skeleton along with the same legs. Anything said beyond that is whatever a fan wants to say Its definitely a cost saving measure, just as retools of the past.

What's really crazy is that this is a fairly tame example. Overlord is essentially just a cosmetic change from Sky Shadow, not like how Broadside somehow managed to turn Alpha Trion's lion into a fighter jet. As someone who doesn't like to double dip on a mold, that's cheating!

To think, just a few years ago Hasbro would've just switched up the Headmasters every other wave.

Noideaforaname wrote:As someone who doesn't like to double dip on a mold, that's cheating!

Tell yourself they arent the same mold then. Because I dont think they are. Its just two different toys which have the same feet. Just like how all the g1 minibots had the same wheels

william-james88 wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:As someone who doesn't like to double dip on a mold, that's cheating!

Tell yourself they arent the same mold then. Because I dont think they are. Its just two different toys which have the same feet. Just like how all the g1 minibots had the same wheels

It's like clay they took the same plastic and just smooshed it a bit until it was a different shape!

That's how I'm going to imagine it anyways.

Did anyone got TR Winblade yet? she's kinda E X T R A T H I C C

So Overlord is right handed?

Also, there are some extras on the "Mega Child" minijet,
this is also from tf__tf from twitter too.
[Link: https://twitter.com/tf__tf ]

I want Carnifex so bad it hurts, but Hasbro's Overlord is pretty cool...and much easier on my wallet.

Albatross250 wrote:Did anyone got TR Winblade yet? she's kinda E X T R A T H I C C

We had a news post about someone getting her and Misfire earlier.
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ail/38916/

Just picked up Windblade (the only one at TRU).

#71581 on the back of her blistercard.

What can I say?

1. Bellyachers will complain she is "too back heavy" etc etc.
2. Transform mode like a stripped down Jetfire etc etc
3. There are other more worthy characters etc etc

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell? Zilch nada finito!

Windblade is such an awesome new(?) mold (with the prerequisite base mold adoption from either Scourge or Highbrow) which puts the original Windblade to shame!

Great looking Geisha/Kabuki face. Tight joints.

Feminine yet just enough warrior-esque.

Her Headmaster when you look at her long enough does look feminine too.

Her fans tilt but don't spin anymore.

The backpack nose cone I can live with! She is quite stable btw!

Original energon samurai and scabbard can fit into the narrow slot of her thighs. The round peg on the scabbard fits snug for her to carry it separately from the sword.

I can't wait for the Takara version six months from now!

Hey, I think this might be important to some people.

First, take a look, proof that Amazon is selling Chaos on Velocitron:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2qHdl ... NfcG8/view

And second, some acknowledgement that TRU's distribution system is completely junk, via the fact my local TRU has 3 sets of the Chaos on Velocitron set (and didn't even have a location set for it until this week):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2qHdl ... RybWs/view

Btw anyone else thinkin that Hasbro packaging Wingspan with Cloudraker is a wee bit underhanded? i mean...for some that may only want one out of those 2 figs but also having no choice but to end up with the other one is kinda forcefull in some respect(yeah yeah...i know...it's just Hasbro being Hasbro with their marketing & selling structure) AND having to go through the whole thing again with the Pounce & Fastlane boxset

I'd probably have thought that if it wasn't overshadowed by Pounce and Fastlane being packaged in boxsets five times more expensive